published Monday, September 3rd, 2012

Crutchfield needs to stay away and other letters to the editors

Crutchfield needs to stay away

I have been a Democrat all my life. I have gone all the way from being a precinct chairman to a member of the state executive committee. I love the Democratic Party and care about its image.

The rumor that former state Sen. Ward Crutchfield is contemplating running for public office again is troubling. I sincerely hope it is only a rumor. If it is true, he needs to understand that all Democrats do not wish to see him on another ballot. Ever!

He is a convicted felon! He broke the law! And many Democrats believe it may not have been the first time. His being convicted of violating his "public trust" was a slap in the face of all decent Democrats. We have learned that corruption and infidelity are bipartisan, however, we prefer to have no Spiro Agnews representing us.

If the rumor is true, it shows the hubris of Ward Crutchfield. He does not deserve another chance at public office. If state law does not preclude him from running, I will urge all Democrats, Republicans, independents and the power structure to oppose him in the strongest possible ways.

We need individuals in government who are honest; not convicted felons!

WELDON R. MARKHAM


Article on 'Shades' takes the low road

In response to the three-quarter page article on the book "Fifty Shades of Grey" (Aug. 26), I would ask, "Why promote a novel that is perverse, degrading to women, and has no moral value?" I made a choice not to read it several weeks ago when I could not wade through the plot review on the Internet. It was repulsive.

Are you practicing responsible journalism by promoting filth? Why not use the space to feature a book that has high moral value and encourages rather than tears down?

Please, I encourage you to take the high road.

ALLISON WEBB, Signal Mountain


Use ad dollars to fight litter

It wasn't long after we bought and moved to the farm that I realized that most of the litter that we were picking up was wrappings, cups, cans and bottles of well-advertised products. Those tossing the litter are obviously reached and influenced by advertisements.

We should enlist those advertisers' help in our struggle against litter. They would be effective by utilizing the knowledge that so successfully reaches and influences litterers. We should seriously consider requiring producers of products that end up as litter to spend as much on advertisements and programs that discourage littering as they spend on the sale of their products. Helping the rest of us pick up their trash should be included.

What brought this to mind was Dr. Clif Cleaveland's Aug. 23 column. Those who produce products that bring on chronic health-related problems should also spend at least what they spend promoting their products on sponsoring and supporting programs that would take care of health-related problems caused by the overuse and misuse of their products.

It behooves producers of any product to anticipate problems to avoid possible mandated laws that will be required if they do not voluntarily adopt programs to alleviate problems that their products might cause.

JAMES O.B. WRIGHT, Sequatchie, Tenn.


Keep 'fans' aware with social media

I enjoyed perusing the "like" stats of our local businesses in "Fan Base," Sunday, (Aug. 26), as well as the perspectives on the efficacy of the Facebook tool.

I own a local web store called Yoga Evolution, and we have grown our "likes" on Facebook since February. Using Facebook advertising, we have met new customers in places like Raipur, India; Strathfield, Australia and Mt. Juliet, Tenn.

We currently have 4,700 Facebook fans. Twitter is another great way to meet new "fans" from the other side of the planet. We're just at 1,194 dedicated yogi tweeters.

Profits at Yoga Evolution are as yet unmatched with those of our local giants. We're certainly not at even half the "like" equity of companies like BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee -- at least, not in terms of Facebook fans. But we're third among the giants in tweeters. And we only have one employee.

The tools are free to start, so they're worth a shot. The challenge is to offer timely, unique posts that keep your "fans" engaged on what the business is doing to change things. The pulse of social media is change on demand, so that's what the medium invites when your business achieves more "likes."

BETTERTON DWALLACE


Akin's thinking is nothing new

For all those shocked by Todd Akin's statement regarding "legitimate" rape, this has been in the GOP platform for years. Paul Ryan and his fellow GOPers have voted overwhelmingly for the "no exception" rule in the abortion law. If Romney/Ryan should succeed, women's rights will be set back to the dark ages. Why is it that men think they should have control over women's health decisions?

Ryan's votes are a matter of record for all voters to see; look it up. How can they claim to be pro-life when Ryan and his cronies voted to send other people's children to an illegal war in Iraq? Vote against allowing hungry children in this, the richest country in the world, go without a meal? Vote against women receiving mammograms, pap smears, breast cancer exams in order to perhaps save them from a certain cruel death sentence? Vote to have all citizens breathing dirty air and drinking toxic water just so their masters (Koch, Adelson, etc.) can stuff another billion in their pockets?

The Romney/Ryan campaign is based on nothing but lies and fear mongering in order to hang on to their uninformed, delusional base.

ANN BENTON, Signal Mountain


COA aids citizens in retaking power

Re: Cliff Hightower's Aug. 27 article about Chattanooga Organized for Action: I am president of Hill City Neighborhood Association and I am a member of COA. That does not make HCNA a COA subgroup. HCNA residents have been working for this community for longer than I've been alive. COA is not "the central point of an umbrella group."

Mr. Hightower wrote "COA challenged the Department of Education." COA didn't. The Coalition to Keep the Promise did. Many community and education advocates are disappointed with this ongoing saga. Justice delayed is justice denied. He also wrote, "the school board agreed to start letting in Hill City children." Actually, the board voted for a phase-in plan, and 10 months later we still don't have one. Five kindergartners per year is not a phase-in plan. Nothing phases out, and Hill City never gets zoned.

We need a countywide parents' coalition to hold the school district accountable, and we need citizens engaged in how tax dollars are spent or squandered. Democracy is people-power, not money-power. COA is a platform to train citizens to take the power back. We've had to secure some victories to prove the work works.

RHIANNON MAYNARD


Technical school a must for area

Dalton Roberts (commentary, Life section, Aug. 21) was correct in pointing out the serious need for a new technical high school in Chattanooga. Elimination of Kirkman High School was a mistake, as was moving the program to Howard School.

The location of a new school near Chattanooga State is ideal. The rapid growth of private business schools in this area is ample proof of the shortage of technical training for our young people. The school board needs to put this discussion on their agenda.

ROCKY RENNEISEN, Signal Mountain

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ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

CONCLUSION: Book: 'Fifty Shades of Grey'

Recently someone said, "Hey, let's go down to Hospice and look at the homosexuals." This is 'NOT' o.k. to say. After all there may be many other innocent victims of HIV/AIDS dying in Hospice who did not choose homosexuality as a lifestyle.

Now we have the issue of a 'fringe group' book that is just as insulting as the disgusting comment above. What I have to say is that some behaviors are 'Gateways'> to very cruel and damaging actions. Most of the drug addicts I've spoken with relate that marijuana was their 'gateway'>drug to much more dangerous drugs. Now we have someone insulting/degrading women and recommending they become involved in 'Gateways' often utilized by serial killers!

BDSM legacy site Wastexxxx.com and erotica for women site, Sxxxxh.com will contribute anonymous funds to aide a group of British book burners. They say they want to thank the charity for actually promoting their trades of [pornorgraphy]. They relate that the best publicity for book sales is to ban the book!

Ken ORR

September 3, 2012 at 10:30 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Once again the voice of censorship raises his ugly head.

From "Fifty Shades of Grey" to serial killers; from marijuana to meth. Oh, the horror or books and pot.

How about from the Bible to Andrea Yates, Jim Jones, and Jerry Falwell?

The uber-religious nutters see sin everywhere and claim the authority of Gawd to stop it.

While people worry about Sharia law in America, their immediate concern should be the warped orthodox religious sects that would institute their Christian/Old Testament form of Sharia law. These fundamentalist busybodies lurk around every corner, government office, and bedroom waiting for the opportunity to impose their will, always as Gawd's agents.

Who needs terrorists from abroad? We have our own American Taliban springing forth under the banner of Jesus. And they know best how you must live your life. Not content to damn you to hell in the afterlife, they must do their best to torment you in this life.

September 3, 2012 at 12:16 p.m.
jesse said...

I remember from back in my youth when Henry Millers"tropic of Cancer" was banned in the good ole U.S.OF A.!! Now Millers books are considered classics! Seems like the lunatics ain't gonna be happy till we are back in the dark ages!!

September 3, 2012 at 2:21 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Now, stepping through another door, comes another 'voice'. And, I truly hope that You, J, aren't among that very tiny group of minorities who call themselves 'atheists'. I certainly do not label this minute group stupid, but, rather, ignorant, and, deprived in their Faith. They of the 'atheist' Faith believe that nothing can be believed in unless mortals can empirically (so-called 'scientifically') prove it. So, for them, it doesn't exist, if...they don't perceive it by their limited 5 senses. They believe in purported phenomena reported by competing 'scientific' groups, yet, they have no clue if it is actually true. [Quantum, Astro, & Mechanical Physicists, Anthropologist hoax purveyors, etc.). They follow their fringe-element minority atheistic group explanations, and purport to live their lives according to positive morals, which in actuality are excuses to practice situation ethics (no ethics) and other hedonistic philosophies. This allows them to do anything, and, with impunity in their minds. All those who walked away from Jesus Christ, well, they didn't show up even as a proverbial blip on the radar. They probably did not ever get a following of even 2 people. Yet, the twelve who stayed, and, told Jesus they were staying because He has the Words of Life, well, they turned the world up-side down. They asked, "Where can we go, except to You, Jesus?" (very positive). Now, the largest element of the world claims to be Christian (Followers/Learners of Jesus Christ of Nazareth). This number will only increase, as it has throughout A.D. history. How can individuals desire to align themselves with a tiny minority? Atheists can't even offer any explanation for the first cause of existence. This is a dangerous way to live! Their Faith says, "I don't know", as they throw their arms into the air, and, walk away. They 'can know', if they would only ask Jesus Christ to be their Saviour.

September 3, 2012 at 4:37 p.m.
jesse said...

Well Ken,going by your first post seems like you would be in the front row down at the hospice if their wern't any NON GAY folks down there dyin!! See thats the kinda crap is what turns me off of religion of whatever flavor! Personaly i think it's all voodoo,BUT IF you are right and there is a heaven and hell they will be VERY few so called christians in heaven!!Old scratch gonna have lots of acquaintances down below!

September 3, 2012 at 6:27 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

I am an atheist as far as your Middle Eastern tribal deity is concerned, just as I'm an atheist about the Easter Bunny, Tooth-Fairy, and the Wizard of Oz.

I am agnostic in the bigger question of "is there a god, gods, or Flying Spaghetti Monster (May You Be Touched by His Noodly Appendage), but to take the Bible as anything other than metaphorically shows a lack of knowledge of history, science, and psychology.

I think it's dangerous to live in an imaginary world of man-made gods such as Jehovah, Allah, and anything that can't be proved by hard evidence. Taking a book of fiction such as the Bible, and attempting to make it historical and literal truth is dangerous because people begin to believe they're instruments of schizophrenic deities.

Your claims that "Recently someone said, "Hey, let's go down to Hospice and look at the homosexuals" reeks of BS. Your claim to have copyrighted the words "Pleasure-sexual" was a lie. Your claims of advanced knowledge of physics (the credentials you never produced) was a lie.

Like most Christian nutters, you're delusional and lost in a fantasy world of miracles, ghosts, demons, witches, and devils. You'd be at home in Salem or Europe when witch-burning was popular by the ignorant, self-pious, and political thugs (see Hamilton County Commission).

The one good thing about your posts are mainstream Christians see how nutty you are and strive not to be like you. Of course, unless they believe as you do, they're not really Christians, are they?

I am a freethinker, not given to obeying anyone or anything simply on their say so without evidence.

I'm not anti-Christian, anti-Muslim, or anti-Easter Bunny. I am anti-ignorance, particularly when it comes to whacked-out religious nutters whether Christian, Muslim, or any other group that claim revelation from an invisible Sky Daddy or rabbit eggs.

The Bible is a collection of writings assembled to help the political power of Constantine and the Catholic Church. That makes them neither holy, historical, or valid, anymore than Mother Goose tales are real.

Please read the Bible. It's full of hate, incest (Lot and his daughters), war, murder, adultery, talking serpents and talking donkeys, and other stories that defy reason and morality if read as literal truth.

Your Biblical quotes prove nothing. You're a madman lost in religious fanaticism.

With every post you write you cause someone to question their blind obedience to a literal god and a literal interpetation of the Bible, and they see the maniacal nature of you and your nut-job cohorts.

Your writing will bring more people to reason and science than anything I could say. Plus, it's good for laughs.

September 3, 2012 at 6:42 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

daytonsdarwin, I'll begin with this: "I have not lied about anything." kwo

FYI-"I write Illustrated Children's Books" I know that a phrase

can, indeed, be copyrighted! Also, I would prevail in a court of

law. ...State of Georgia v. Harrison Co., 548 F. Supp. 110 (N.D.

Ga 1982).... Like I tried to tell JustOneWoman, or,

HappyWithNewBulbs..."This is no longer 'Business as Usual',

there's a new kid on the block, get ready for the change."

1...If an author has created a uniquely suggestive phrase, then the courts will protect it under copyright. But if an author's literary phrase is merely a trivial variation on that which already belongs to the public, copyright will not extend... Nichols v. Universal Pictures Corp. 45 F.2d 119, 122 (2d Cir.) (Decision by J. Learned Hand)

Copyright disputes about short phrases end up clustering into three categories:

2...Ken's>>a phrase is appropriated to sell a service or product;>an author seeks to protect a singular literary phrase.<<Mine

There exists a first step in legalizing copyrighting, I have taken that step. Also, I have a new Children's Book, set in Africa, that has brought adults to loving tears. I will be willing to get You a free Kindle copy. (The Illustrator in Columbus, GA has it right now). The book is edited to meet Amazon.Com Kindle requirements, and, other E-book readers.

September 3, 2012 at 8:31 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Oh, also I could provide You the Comedian's name who said,

"Hey, let's go down to Hospice and look at the homosexuals."

but, I don't want to give him any publicity. Nobody truly thinks

that is in any way funny! kwo

September 3, 2012 at 9:03 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

I'm also in the process of writing a novel about Middle Eastern exported terrorism. Let's just say it is a very 'explosive/exposing' novel. The process by which I am granted copyright protection on various uniquely coined phrases is by placing them into my book's story lines. Such as, the one phrase, of which You are familiar, will be utilized in my book which uses a compilation of many of the posts here. I will, by law, have to obtain permissions from many people. kwo

September 3, 2012 at 9:58 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Orr wrote: Oh, also I could provide You the Comedian's name who said,

"Hey, let's go down to Hospice and look at the homosexuals."

but, I don't want to give him any publicity.

Give his name. That's evidence that could be checked for the truth. I personally would like to know what comedian you heard say that so I could read it,or hear it, in context as you claim to have heard it.

Or is this like the rest of the proof you offer?

You claimed that "pleasure-sexual" was already copyrighted weeks ago. Now you say your taking first steps. Which is it?

Nobody truly thinks your proof is evidence, but they do think it's funny.

September 3, 2012 at 9:59 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

I can understand that You (most folks) don't understand. Well, there are at least two forms of copyright protection. 1... The first form 'may' not hold up in court as far as regards lawsuits, etc..
2... The other form absolutely holds up in court for the purpose of lawsuit. A Judge may actually rule in favor of the first mentioned method.

I can't take the time now, but, #1 only requires a date stamp and declaration that You have copyrighted Your particular work...for example, one of my books. kwo

"A little learning is a dangerous thing!" (This is for me, You, all of us, I' not directing this toward just You.

"Use your better judgement, most of what you read on the Internet are opinions, not facts. Even more so, opinions stated as facts." - Abraham Lincoln

September 3, 2012 at 10:13 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

orr wrote: "Use your better judgement, most of what you read on the Internet are opinions, not facts. Even more so, opinions stated as facts." - Abraham Lincoln

Thanks for the quote. I did not know that Abraham Lincoln used the internet. I guess when Abe wasn't busy fighting zombies or zipping around Venus in his space ship, he relaxed by watching the 700 Club on his computer.

Boy, you sure know your Lincoln. Thanks for the proof. Just think how I doubted your religious evidence. I trust your Middle Eastern terrorist novel will be filled with the same attention to detail and historical accuracy.

September 3, 2012 at 10:36 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

I was hoping somebody would catch the 'Abe' thing! +(:>%[@=: Although, I really had no doubt about the readership of the comment section. As we discuss so many very serious subjects, I am refreshed when one of You provide comic relief. I continue to want to be Friends with folks, or, at least to be able to exchange good-natured humor.

September 3, 2012 at 10:46 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

And, re: humor, I do not, do not, do not think the hospice thing is funny. Now, I have possibly placed myself in near entrapment. If I didn't quote exactly, talking about lawsuits, if I name him, well...there goes the neighborhood. I would have to assume 'selective memory', state that I don't remember, then, ask forgiveness for lying. We were just discussing copyright law, etc. Nope, I shan't place my self in legal harm's way.

My Wife just strongly indicated she wants me to get off the computer...get some rest for tomorrow's work day. I'm not trying to get in the last word...it's just her timing. I'll blame it on the Woman! Peace.

September 3, 2012 at 10:53 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Best take your lithium now and count the angels flying around your padded cell.

Still waiting for comedian's name and when that particular quote you reported was said.

Still waiting for your credentials in physics as promised two weeks ago.

Still waiting, as usual, for proof and evidence of your claims.

September 3, 2012 at 10:56 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

You just reminded of Clay Bennett's Cartoon of Clint Eastwood! That was rich. I think Clay is an artistic genius. He offers a billion details regarding life and life philosophies in just one single cartoon. Peace!

September 3, 2012 at 11:04 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Are you saying you lied about the quote? Your excuses are BS. You don't have to repeat the quote; just who, when and where?

For someone who loves quoting the Bible you sure have problems with "selective memory."

Still waiting, and waiting, . . . . . . .

September 3, 2012 at 11:07 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

We should not keep alive such a disgusting quote. As an example of when freedom of speech, first amendment 'rights'? go too far, it has done it's job. I don't even want such a quote to be in my memory. Yes, I did hear the guy say it, but, it may not be his exact quote. Many people misquote, when they, and I, would have been more accurate to say regarding the quote, 'something like this'. Yet, how many people are that tediously technical?

"Use your better judgment, most of what you read on the Internet are opinions, not facts. Even more so, opinions stated as facts." - Abraham Lincoln

September 4, 2012 at 12:36 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

orr wrote: "Yet, how many people are that tediously technical?"

I am. You've claimed that quote and story twice. Now you can't back it up. That makes you a liar, religiously delusional, or mentally suspect. Maybe all three.

You've been busted — seriously busted by your own words. You can't backup on this by poor attempts at humor.

Maybe God loves a good liar as long as it's in His interest. Is that the case?

What about your credentials in physics you claimed? Was that a lie too? Or what are you going to say — your dog ate your thesis? Satan took away your diploma? Witches cast a spell on you and now your bewitched?

You're a good example of religious fanaticism and why religion of any sort has no place in public schools, government offices, and science.

Too bad. I thought you might produced a doctorate from MIT. Instead it's a Bible tract from WTF.

September 4, 2012 at 1:03 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

daytonsdarwin,

I wanted to tell You, "Good try". Yet, I 'would' be a liar then, because, 'You're Busted'. Do You think for a moment that any of Your pathetic attempts to pull information from the 'New Kid on The Block' is going to be successful? Remember, You aren't dealing with the audience with whom You are used to dealing. I can't even give You an "att'a Boy" on the above, much less even, "good attempt". Yes, then I would be untruthful. I will continue to lift You up before God The Father, God The Son, God The Holy Spirit. You will be hearing from Him, because, He hears my prayers. I don't mean to insult You. I just want You to look in the mirror. You have moved into a new environment of contest, which, You cannot win with elementary attempts/maneuvers such as exemplified above. Peace.

Ken ORR

September 4, 2012 at 5:46 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Orr,

You're projecting. Your attempts are pathetic. Your arguments from authority are fallacious. You are absolutely no contest. You have never, not even once, offered any substantial proof for any of your claims about yourself or your fairytale religion. Keep sending up your prayers. The only person that hears them is you. No one will be hearing from your fairytale god either. Embrace your ignorance and utter gullibility. You live in a fantasy world. You base your entire life on lies, misinformation, and immoral/evil teachings from a book of myths. You are truly a fool.

September 4, 2012 at 6:03 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Still waiting for your evidence of all your claims, Mr. Orr. For someone who has told the same story twice, used that same quote twice, claimed credentials in physics, and to have copyrighted the term "pleasure-sexual" weeks ago, you sure look like a liar to me and everyone else. Does Gawd love a cheerful liar? Or just those that don't get caught?

When I look in the mirror I see a person who's honest. What do you see, Mr. Orr? Confusion? Lies? Angels dancing on the head of a pin?

You're still busted, you've been exposed as a liar, and not honest enough to admit it. So much for you and your "truth."

I expect to hear from your Gawd about the same time Bigfoot becomes Pope, Jimmy Swaggert quits crying and begging for money, and when Baptist preachers stop over-eating fried chicken and preach on the sin of gluttony.

So keep posting Mr. Orr. Your hole can only go deeper without any help from me.

September 4, 2012 at 6:05 p.m.
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