published Thursday, September 13th, 2012

'Blood drive honors the victims of 9/11' and other letters to the editor

Blood drive honors the victims of 9/11

Eleven years ago on Sept. 11, four planes were hijacked. The lives of innocent civilians and heroic firefighters were lost with the smoke and devastation of the crashes. The air was packed with confusion, hysteria. The people responsible for the crime were "Muslims." And thus, more than planes were hijacked -- the Muslim faith was hijacked, as it became synonymous with terrorism and hate.

But this year, for the second year in a row, the organization "Muslims for Life," started by the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, is collecting 11,000 units of blood in honor of the victims of 9/11. The goal is to save lives and show the face of the true Islam -- a religion that promotes the sanctity of life.

Being an Ahmadi Muslim myself, my family and I held several drives in our local community. I held a drive at my school, Girls Preparatory School. My parents organized four drives in Dalton, where we live, at the local college, Walmart and Blood Assurance office. All in all, it was amazing to see the thoughtfulness of the people in our local community in support of the victims of the terrible crime against humanity that occurred around this time 11 years ago.

NAJIA HUMAYUN, Tunnel Hill, Ga.

Coupon support a boost for schools

Kids First Coupon Books offer citizens of Hamilton County an opportunity to support educational needs and in turn receive discounts from many businesses that also support education in Hamilton County.

All money that passes through schools is closely audited and monitored by an independent accounting firm, as well as the school system's accounting department. Money at my school has been used to purchase document cameras, Promethean boards, computers and cutting edge curriculum materials including books for small-group guided reading instruction.

Buying coupon books is a freedom that those who choose to support education have. Purchasing school supplies also is a freedom that many parents who choose to support education exercise.

One estimated cost I've seen for educating a child in a public school for one year is $8,000. With that in mind, and using Hamilton County's current enrollment of 42,705, a rough estimate of $8,000 per student would indicate that it costs $34,164,000 a year to educate our children. $14 million certainly helps with those things that the county is not able to purchase at our schools where families choose to support this initiative.

Thank you to Kris Humber for her hard work to make this opportunity possible for the children and the schools of Hamilton County.

NORMA FAERBER, Principal, McConnell Elementary

Fines level raises question of intent

Our residents in nursing homes across the U.S. deserve the very best in care. I would propose that they do receive the best in most circumstances with only rare examples of poor-performing facilities. There are over 14,000 nursing homes in the U.S. There is always going to be a few bad apples in any business.

Across the U.S., nursing homes average about eight deficiencies per year. There is nothing unusual about that number. We have always seen about that many over the last 15-plus years. Nursing homes are the most heavily regulated businesses in the U.S., and it is a real challenge to meet each rule.

In the state of Tennessee, I would propose the state surveyors are ruthless in their approach to the severity of the deficiency, often citing facilities with six-figure penalties. I would challenge anyone to find other types of health-care providers that are routinely experiencing this level of fines. In many cases severity is merely defined by the surveyors' subjective opinion.

The question needs to be asked: Is the state of Tennessee and/or Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services finding a revenue stream for themselves that is very positive for them?


Ladd's actions don't match constituents

I heard something from one of City Councilwoman Pam Ladd's visually impaired constituents at the VIP Support group meeting this past Saturday that disturbed me. This lady lives in Hixson and has no access to public transportation. This visually impaired lady would have to walk 3.5 miles to catch a bus. She once called Pam Ladd about this situation, and Pam Ladd told her: "I live here, and, it's all right." The lady asked Pam Ladd if she could drive, and she admitted that she does. It appears that the good councilwoman has no concern for her visually impaired constituents.

She demonstrated her unwillingness to stand for people's right to pray a few weeks ago when she attempted to deprive Councilman Rico of his right to begin the council meeting with prayer. Sure hope that believers in Christ and visually impaired constituents in Pam Ladd's district will say no to her in March!


UTC loses focus of game prayer

Re: front page story "Diversity leads to UTC moment of silence," (Sept. 11).

OK, I get it, there's no leadership at UTC, just DIVERSITY. UTC has lost the focus of a pre-game prayer. It is simple to me: it is a time to pray to the God of your belief, to protect the players from harm and to lead the players in the conduct of sportsmanship and honor. It is not a time of silence to remember the things we hold dear, it is not a time to evangelize, and certainly it is not an imposition of the "will of the majority on a minority."

Coach Huesman got it right in his two statements: "I know what goes on in my locker room." "Out there (in the stadium) I just don't think too much about it." It seems rather clear to me that Coach Huesman prepares the UTC team for the game in all areas. The observance of a moment of silence will have no bearing on the outcome of the game, but it will reveal the character of Chattanooga and our failed leaders.


Continue updates on virtual schools

I've appreciated the stories I've seen on the virtual school situation in the area, specifically Monday's. As a person who was homeschooled from fourth grade to college, I'm interested in how a more modern and "acceptable" trend of home learning is emerging.

I agree with what was said in that quality is all it should be about. Education is so important in that age range. Self-motivation is essential as well, as the article stated.

Thank you for bringing to the public's eye this issue. Hope to see another follow-up story much later to see what has happened with both the Hamilton County option and K12.

BRANDON COBOS, Rising Fawn, Ga.

Reject Crutchfield's way of business

Ward Crutchfield is a convicted criminal. He was busted in the infamous Tennessee Waltz scandal and is apparently considering a run for City Council. This sounds like "The Empire Strikes Back" for Chattanooga. We had might as well allow Darth Vader to run for a seat and call it "progress."

Our city deserves to take a step forward and leave the decades of good ol' boy political nepotism behind. The crony politics and bribery that Ward represents do not highlight the best traits of our Scenic City. We as Chattanoogans should and realize and enforce that we deserve better leaders than people who openly take bribes and make a mockery of governance. We are in charge; this government is ours.

Ward's attempt to reclaim power represents the last dying gasp of an old order of corruption. It's time to reject that old order once and for all.


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daytonsdarwin said...

Chancellor Brown says UTC should no longer have state-sponsored prayer and some Christians act like God caught a Greyhound for Las Vegas and Chattanooga will slide into the Tennessee River while burning to ashes.

That's the reason UTC teaches science, not creationism, faith-healing, walking on water, or rebuking demons and witches on Broad Street.

If Christians demand to pray, stand up on your desk where you work and start praying. Do that at least five times a day. March around your office carrying a cross, passing out Bibles, throw in a little snake-handling for showmanship, and tell your boss she's going to hell because she wants to stop your right to publicly pray at work.

Isn't that your freedom of religion you want? Isn't that your right to pray and proselytize anywhere, anytime?

Do we trust what man believed 2,000+ years ago? Or do we trust what man has learned since?

Science and reason move forward; revealed religion stands still.

September 13, 2012 at 8:38 a.m.
LibDem said...

STEVEN A. HICKS, In an earlier letter, JENNIFER BRADFORD made your position much clearer.

"Some people are always trying to hinder the duty of Christians, which the Bible says is to teach the Gospel to all, as Jesus and his disciples did in a firm but gentle way."

That's exactly evangelizing.

September 13, 2012 at 8:44 a.m.

"UTC loses focus of game prayer"

The Holy Bible makes it very plain, no questions about it, regarding what Jesus Christ demands. Please read and learn America!

Exodus 20:3

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

Exodus 23:13 "And in all things that I have said unto you be circumspect: and make no mention of the name of other gods, neither let it be heard out of thy mouth."

The United States of America is a Christian Nation founded on Judeo-Christian principles. We therefore have the right to require that other religions respect our audible Christian prayers. This reasonable respect reaches to every place and situation in which Christian prayers are offered. Other nations founded on other religious principles are also valuable. We will give these nations the same respect/honor when we are visiting/living in their homelands. A moment of silence is pretty much the same insult as the Democratic Party wanting to reduce Jesus Christ to an 'afterthought'! This Country is continuing to suffer for this kind of idiotic behavior from the minority of our population.

September 13, 2012 at 8:44 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Mr. Orr just made my case for complete separation of church and state, and science and creationism. Thanks.

September 13, 2012 at 9:02 a.m.
raygunz said...

Ms.HUMAYUN, more people should follow your examples.

Thank you!

September 13, 2012 at 9:21 a.m.
Easy123 said...


"The United States of America is a Christian Nation founded on Judeo-Christian principles."


"We therefore have the right to require that other religions respect our audible Christian prayers."

Not in government or state-run entities like universities and public schools.

"This reasonable respect reaches to every place and situation in which Christian prayers are offered. "

Wrong again. We have a secular government that is based on a secular Constitution. The Supreme Court disagrees with you. So does the Constitution.

"Other nations founded on other religious principles are also valuable. We will give these nations the same respect/honor when we are visiting/living in their homelands."

People from other countries with different religions live in America. Your religion doesn't have a monopoly on respect in this country.

"A moment of silence is pretty much the same insult as the Democratic Party wanting to reduce Jesus Christ to an 'afterthought'!"

A moment of silence gives everyone an equal opportunity to pray to whomever they wish. You will never establish your theocracy. Trust me.

"This Country is continuing to suffer for this kind of idiotic behavior from the minority of our population."

This country is suffering because of the ignorance and arrogance of Christians. The minority of our population has the same rights as you, dumbass. That argument doesn't fly. Everyone is equal under the law. You don't get special treatment because you worship a certain god.

Would you like to keep spewing your BS? I thoroughly enjoy throwing it back in your face. Keep going if you dare.

September 13, 2012 at 12:51 p.m.

We will respect other cultures and belief/non-belief (atheists,etc.) at their concentrated events by listening gracefully to their prayers. They should not, in any circumstances, interfere with Christian's 1st Amendment Constitutional Rights which forbid the INTERFERENCE with the free exercise of Christianity. If the U.S. Constitution is a Secular Constitution, then, why does the very 1st Amendment address Religion. This, also, expressly addressing forbidding the INTERFERENCE with the free exercise of Christianity.

September 13, 2012 at 5:55 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

How many times has an atheist walked into your church and interfered with your religion?

Plus with all that religious practice you do, you'd think you'd have it right by now. You must be a very slow learner.

September 13, 2012 at 6:19 p.m.

ORRMEANSLIGHT, your idea of a theocracy is what is forbidden. Sorry, but you can't have the state defend your attempt to compel others to respect your prayers.

September 13, 2012 at 6:47 p.m.

Yes, I do want a Theocratic Government. I would, though, modify that government to be inclusive of all other religions, homosexuals, other deviations from the sexual norm among consenting ADULTS, fringe groups who do not harm others (according to New Testament Christianity), loners, vagabonds, handicapped, deformed individuals, etc., etc....You get the idea. All that I wrote in my above posts stands as is, no changes. The change over to a pure Theocratic Government will occur when King Jesus, The Lion of The Tribe of Judah returns to this world! Jesus Christ has made it plain by declaring:

John 13:34

"A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another."

September 13, 2012 at 8:10 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Does any rational person trust Orr's theocratic government? I've said before Orr and the extreme zealots like him, are far more dangerous to America than any foreign terrorist group.

So much for Orr's make believe stance of support of the Constitution. He's the reason it was written; to protect citizens from a religious government theocracy and the nut-jobs (messengers from a make-believe god).

Delusion and danger runs high with Orr and his Christian Reconstructionists who are antithetical to freedom and liberty everywhere.

If that Lion shows up, I'll shoot. Jesus ain't coming, though his mindless minions are already here.

September 13, 2012 at 8:38 p.m.

No daytonsdarwin, my Theocracy would never, ever harm anyone. My Theocracy would embrace every Constituent with genuine love and care. It would embrace daytonsdarwin, even! How do You think my Theocracy could ever hurt anyone. If i were the King within my Theocracy i would walk up to a homosexual and say, "Hi, my name is King Kenneth, and, i love You. I would ask that person if she/he wanted to look into the Holy Bible and learn what Jesus declares about homosexual behavior. Then, if he/she cursed me out, well, then i would just say, "I don't mean for You to be mistreated at all...because i do love You as being fully human and fully alive". Of course, i would have to tell them that 'fully human/fully alive' is from a book and may be copyrighted! +(:> kwo


The humor at the end is not meant to detract from the seriousness of what came before the humor.

September 14, 2012 at 7:05 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Orr, you've been proven a liar time and again. Yesterday you finally admitted you want a theocracy. You lied when you said you supported the US Constitution. You lied about your credentials, You lied about quotes you made up. You've lied about copyrights you claimed.

The only truth you've told is you want a theocracy. I knew that eventually you'd be found out to be a Calvinist Christian Reconstructionist.

Your deceit is endless. Your pathological fanaticism is equal to Islamic fundamentalists of which you have much in common. Any lie for God, any deception for God.

Does the Chattanooga Tea Party of which you claim membership realize you're a theocratic lunatic?

You're not brilliant. You're a liar, deceiver, a dishonest wing-nut.

You're a disgrace to your church unless they're made up of idiots and prevaricators like yourself.

You have severe mental problems. I fully expect you to throw bombs and kill people and do it all in the name of your imaginary god.

We are not friends. I wouldn't have you for an acquaintance, much less a friend.

The good news is that everyone knows you're crazier than an outhouse rat. No one defends you or wishes to be associated with you because of your total stupidity and ignorance.

You're on the losing end of the stick. Fortunately, the belief in your God diminishes everyday. I have you to thank for that. Your postings only prove that theocracy doesn't work, and will never work because deranged theocratic whack-jobs for God always seek life and death power over others.

As science moves forward you regress into the Dark Ages, counting angels on the head of a pin in the few remaining neural pathways that exist in your demented mind.

You're a hemmoroid on the ass of the earth.

I rest my case, find you guilty of complete lunacy, and you have sentenced yourself to a life of ignorance.

September 14, 2012 at 7:40 p.m.

*had to repost...placed in wrong section!

Title: "You Have Not Chosen Me, but, I Have Chosen You"

And Yes, daytonsdarwin, in my Theocracy, You would be my Friend. Certainly, even now, i call You Friend. You have no power, no control over this fact. You, daytonsdarwin, are, indeed, my close Friend. I Forgive You of anything & everything-past, present, future. Why? Because, like the great masses of the societies of the world, You are my Brother/Sister as a fellow human being! You are my Friend even if You do believe the UTC prayer decision is just. You are my Brother/Sister and Close Friend mostly because, as Jesus Christ has declared through His Servant: "A man that hath friends must shew himself friendly: and there is a friend that sticketh closer than a brother." Proverbs 18:24...Holy Scripture. Only a Friend could bring me more genuine laughter than You have over the past several weeks. Only a Friend could invest time to try to impart knowledge to a Brother in the human Family,and, this is with the intent of building Character in this Friend. Only a True Friend would authentically try to direct a Brother Friend into a more perfect way of perceiving life. Yes, daytonsdarwin, it is out of Your hands, it is not up to You, it is beyond Your ability to change the fact that i am, without successful contradiction, or, valid disputation, Your Brother Friend! Ken ORR

September 14, 2012 at 10:37 p.m.

Sorry These 2 posts placed on wrong article.

daytonsdarwin, i forgive You for every bad thing You've said about me. Even any lies that You have told, or, in some way attempted to perpetuate. Jesus Christ of Nazareth, my Lord, God, and, Saviour said, even while shedding His life's blood on Calvary's cruel Cross, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do". This is how i am. This is what i want to thoroughly learn from He who is described in the following manner:

3 "He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from Him; He was despised, and we esteemed Him not.

4 Surely He hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem Him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

5 But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon Him; and with His stripes we are healed.

6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on Him the iniquity of us all.

7 He was oppressed, and He was afflicted, yet He opened not His mouth: He is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before Her shearers is dumb, so He openeth not His mouth.

8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare His generation? for He was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was He stricken.

9 And He made His grave with the wicked, and with the rich in His death; because He had done no violence, neither was any deceit in His mouth.

10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise Him; He hath put Him to grief: when thou shalt make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed, He shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in His hand.

11 He shall see of the travail of His soul, and shall be satisfied: by His knowledge shall My righteous servant justify many; for He shall bear their iniquities.

12 Therefore will I divide Him a portion with the great, and He shall divide the spoil with the strong; because He hath poured out His soul unto death: and He was numbered with the transgressors; and He bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.".......Isaiah 53 (King James Version)


September 14, 2012 at 10:41 p.m.
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