published Tuesday, April 9th, 2013

David Cook: Sixteen days of something

Don't don't don't don't don't. Please don't.

Don't start killing again.

It was Palm Sunday night when a fragile cease-fire was called, which makes this Day 16.

Things have held since then, but it feels thinner by the day. One dead body, four other shootings.

Three of them since Friday.

The stories behind the bullets? Not sure. I've heard everything.

Robberies. Argument over a girl. Over drugs. A drive-by. Gang-related. Not gang-related.

So has the cease-fire begun to crumble? Held firm? Not sure. I've heard everything.

Younger kids, doing their own thing, are pulling the trigger. Gang leaders aren't behind it. Yes, they are. No, they're not. Just wait till summer, when it gets hot.

It's as if the streets themselves aren't even sure.

(Official Chattanooga is not too sure either. Mayor-elect Andy Berke just dismantled the Gang Task Force. He hasn't said whether he'll keep or dismiss current Police Chief Bobby Dodd.)

This truce? However strong or weak, it is a start. It says something to the larger community. To the establishment. To white Chattanooga.

I've seen purse strings begin to unlatch. Seen critics interrupt their cynicism.

Your cease-fire sends this whacked-out message that most people out here never saw coming. It counters the stories we tell ourselves about gangs.

They don't care. Thugs, just killing themselves. Can't stop it. Don't even try.

When you stop pulling the triggers, it train-wrecks that. Puts a bullet in that lie. It makes all of us realize you want this peace more than anyone else.

God, I hope so.

The other lie we tell ourselves?

They'd never take a job. Too much money on the corner.

If a factory were to appear today offering 500 entry-level jobs, they'd be gone by tomorrow. Gang membership would drop by half; honest paychecks taking the place of the streets.

"If I had a job, I'd be at home right now, getting ready for bed," one man said, sitting around the dining room table, on the night of the cease-fire.

On this side of the street, we've got to fill the void. Fill the vacuum. For

the truce to last, something has to appear to take the place of gang life.

Something positive. Constructive. Something good.

Gangs aren't a surprise. Combine poverty with empty fathers with prison with despair with drugs with guns, and the surprise is not that gangs exist, but that more of them don't.

Right now, people are watching. Your self-created peace puts the pressure on us.

But the bullets start to fly? Man, it's lights out.

I know you're out there, eyeing the newspaper. Certain people -- on the streets and near them -- have said: be careful what you write. People, in jail and out, are reading.

Well read this: your life matters.

And I don't want you to kill anyone.

And I don't want you to die.

about David Cook...

David Cook is the award-winning city columnist for the Times Free Press, working in the same building where he began his post-college career as a sportswriter for the Chattanooga Free Press. Cook, who graduated from Red Bank High, holds a master's degree in Peace and Justice Studies from Prescott College and an English degree from the University of Tennessee at Knoxville. For 12 years, he was a teacher at the middle, high school and university ...

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LaughingBoy said...

Nobody should want the violence but it's become a fact of life here. Without a huge change in black culture and attitude it will get worse year after year, no matter the good intentions of folks such as yourself, and no matter how much money is thrown at the problem. We need more Bill Cosbys who demand the best, not race baiters (Jesse Jackson types) who are always playing the blame game. Literally, stop blaming "Whitey" for starters. There's no law the poor have to drop out of high school, have to have kids at age 15, have to drink to excess and use drugs. There's no law having multiple kids by multiple women should be a source of pride. Demand and expect different from an early age. Beyond that, for the kids already here, get them out of bed on time, know where they're at when it's 2 AM, and don't let them associate with known or suspected criminal elements. For some of those who've known little else, it might be too late but if something isn't done yet another generation will be ruined.

April 9, 2013 at 2:16 a.m.
tcrashfx said...

"If a factory were to appear today offering 500 entry-level jobs, they'd be gone by tomorrow. Gang membership would drop by half; honest paychecks taking the place of the streets."

Can you say, "VW?"

Other than Ms. Robin Smith's inane opinion piece entitled, "RELIGIOUS RELATIVIST", Mr. Cook's unsupportable, ivory tower and illogical statement was absolutely the most ignorant, unrealistic, irresponsible, dishonest and uninformed statement I have read in several weeks.

(And I regularly read David Tulis' blog, President Obama's press releases, all SCOTUS opinions and most inter-departmental memos.)

Then I read this show stopper.....

"I know you're out there, eyeing the newspaper. Certain people -- on the streets and near them -- have said: be careful what you write. People, in jail and out, are reading."

How's that, "Don't don't don't don't don't. Please don't" tepid and cowardly request working out for ya, Mr. Cook?

Maybe, Mr. Cook, if you added, "Pretty, pretty, please, with sugar on top quit killing, maiming, raping and robbing folks 'cause we're raising the minimum wage to $85 per hour and we are asking nicely?"

Mr. Cook's, and Ms. Smith's, grammar are perfect, their speling and punctuation (periods, and such) is admirable and they are both wordy and eloquent.

I just wish they'd write something meaningful, plan something demonstrably effective or at least offer just one thing, other than words, that was actually informative or educational.

April 9, 2013 at 6:40 a.m.
jesse said...

tcrashfx?

You are not takin into consideration that what he writes makes him feel all warm and fuzzy!

God forbid he has to face reality!

April 9, 2013 at 9:50 a.m.
shen said...

tcrashfx said...

"If a factory were to appear today offering 500 entry-level jobs, they'd be gone by tomorrow. Gang membership would drop by half; honest paychecks taking the place of the streets."

Can you say, "VW?"


Like many other employers around town, VW doesn't hire individuals with criminal records.

I know this. During the Christmas rush, I sent a young man to apply for a job at one of the local businesses hiring for the holiday season. He had both education, a work history and experience.

The interview went well until the interviewer got to the part of the application about any arrests or convictions. For that reason alone, the individual was turned down for the position. He was told he'd have to be arrest/conviction free for three years before he could be considered for a position (no actual promise for hire). THREEyears?!!! He/LL, by that time you're forced back into the lifestyle in order to survive for the most basics that got you arrested in the first place!

April 9, 2013 at 9:55 a.m.
davidcook said...

Jesse - what's the reality you're talking about? tcrashfx - in all the interviews I've done, and in reading the work of the Gang Study, jobs is routinely listed as the most needed interrupter. Something to take the place of what's happening now. So, not sure why such a claim is so ignorant like you suggest.

April 9, 2013 at 11:43 a.m.
LaughingBoy said...

Cook, for some of them, it may be too late to ever gain a legitimate job. That is a sad observation. That's why the cycle needs to be broken ASAP or it will just be more of the same. Poor behavior and attitudes shouldn't be excused or blamed on someone else.

April 9, 2013 at 11:46 a.m.
dfreezy said...

Anyone with a criminal record is a second class citizen in the U.S. It's near impossible to get a job when you have to check the convicted felon box. Felons can't go back to school unless they pay OUT OF POCKET. No scholarships, no loans. Felons also don't get food stamps. What else is left after all their options are stripped away. Even though they may not been seen as human beings in the eyes of the law, they are still HUMANS with needs that need to be met. They're trying to survive.

We need jobs that are accessible to people with criminal records and people in the inner city. VW is not. You have to have a clean record and a car to get there (no bus runs to the VW or Amazon plant). But jobs are only part of the solution. People with felonies need equal treatment. They should be able to vote. They should be able to get a job. They should be able to go to school. They need to be treated like HUMANS.

April 9, 2013 at 1:02 p.m.
shen said...

davidcook said... Jesse - what's the reality you're talking about? tcrashfx - in all the interviews I've done, and in reading the work of the Gang Study, jobs is routinely listed as the most needed interrupter. Something to take the place of what's happening now. So, not sure why such a claim is so ignorant like you suggest.

So true, Mr. Cook. It's not necessarily the lawlessness that's crippling and destroying these communities and the people who live in them as much as it's today's debilitating and forever life changing/destroying laws.

The system is aware of this. That's why the rules suddenly change, and the offense isn't so bad, when someone like the tcrashEDs and jesse(S) get caught up in the system. Suddenly beating your spouse (domestic violence), DUI, DWI, substance abuse or even sex crimes against underage victims aren't such a terrible offense after all.

If they hadn't managed to become a part of that system before the laws stiffen and became more damaging and life changing, they would be on the receiving end of it. They'd be like the politician who fought for higher jail and prison times against offenders until he was arrested and sent to prison himself. Suddenly, he became a staunch advocate for prison and jail rehabilitation and giving offenders another chance at life. The stuff this nation was founded.

April 9, 2013 at 1:15 p.m.
jesse said...

David, the reality is there ARE jobs out there BUT it's not the job they want!75% of the jobless are not out of work because they can't find a job but because whats out there is beneath them or doesn't pay enough or is HARD labor or whatever! The bangers are pushin your buttons telling you IF THEY JUST had a job they would give up the life of crime!Ain't never gonna happen!No jobs is just the excuse they use to justify there lifestyle !

IMO!

April 9, 2013 at 1:26 p.m.
dfreezy said...

In your sheltered, privileged opinion, jesse. Go to the projects and find the jobs that people can access. There aren't many. Some of the only economic opportunity for low income people is illegal. It's an endless cycle of poverty and violence.

April 9, 2013 at 1:36 p.m.
LaughingBoy said...

Freezy, why not avoid becoming a felon in the first place? The majority of poor do so. Don't give me, "they have no other options"..

April 9, 2013 at 1:39 p.m.
jesse said...

dfreezy!

My life has hardly been sheltered!My FIRST job was at Pruitt's store on Cherokee blvd. for 50 cents an hour!In the 60 some odd years since then i have always had a job of some kind!Maybe not what i wanted BUT i was puttin the bacon on the table!!

April 9, 2013 at 1:59 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Laughingboy, who just was arrested for stabbed a guy to death in Dalton? Some "black guy"? No a redheaded white guy...And by the way, why don't you try living on $7.25/hr, about $15K/yr for a standard work year of 40 hr weeks.

April 9, 2013 at 2:53 p.m.
jesse said...

Inquiringmind?

Maybe we need to nullify the law for folks that have a hard time making ends meet!! Like, if you can't make the rent this month go rob a bank and we will give you a pass!!I could get a grip on some shat like that!make my ss go father for sure!!

April 9, 2013 at 3:21 p.m.
shen said...

LaughingBoy said... Freezy, why not avoid becoming a felon in the first place? The majority of poor do so. Don't give me, "they have no other options"..

Studies have shown each day you, I and the average citizen leave our home to go about our daily business, by the time we return we've already committed at least three felonies. If the laws came to be enforced across the board, and not just in certain targeted areas or targeting certain ethnic and racial groups, you, I and a host of others would likely be a felon too.

See book by author Harvey Silvergate, Three Felonies A Day

Mr. Silvergate is a criminal defense and civil liberties litigator.

April 9, 2013 at 4:09 p.m.
jesse said...

shen.That is the most asinine,b/s/post i have ever seen!!Even Easy can't top that!!

The average joe would have to have an agenda to commit three felonies a day!EVERY DAY?? NO WAY!!You my friend are FULL OF squat!(To be polite about it!)

April 9, 2013 at 4:47 p.m.
shen said...

jesse, apparently you're not aware of how restrictive and oppressive America's laws have become over the years. For every one freedom you naively believe you have there are at least 10 or more laws already in place to deprive you of those freedoms. They only reason you're not a criminal yet is because those laws haven't been fully enforced across the board. They've been very selective.

April 9, 2013 at 4:55 p.m.
dfreezy said...

Thanks for reinforcing my point, shen. These people making ignorant comments are very privileged. They are privileged in the way that laws are enforced. They are privileged because they have easier access to jobs and more economic opportunity. It's easy to blame individuals for systemic issues like poverty and mass incarceration when you have class, race, and gender privileges to pave the road to success for you.

April 9, 2013 at 6:37 p.m.
shen said...

Truly, dfreezy. only in some upscale, middle-classed and up community can kids, and even their parents before them, get away with underaged drinking, partying and drugging it up from one generation to the next, and only receive a citation to pay a fine without having to appear in court or have an arrest on their record. While in many poor communities just the simple act of walking down the street a certain time of day or night can lead to a stop, frisk and possible arrest. And that's only if you're lucky enough to not get a beatdown first just for added measures.

Then there's the added burden of having to pay court fines or forced to plead guilty to a crime the individual didn't commit for lack of being able to afford legal representation. Then when those court fines go unpaid, because the individual lost that low-waged paying job while locked up, they lose their driving privilege because their license were suspended or revoked because the court fines went unpaid. So if the individual can't drive they can't look for work or retain employment if they have it. Not everyone is privileged to live on a busline and paying cab fare to get to and from that low waged job can totally wipe that salary. So the cycle of poverty is created. Overtime, individuals will just stop trying and do whatever it takes just to survive.

April 9, 2013 at 9:37 p.m.
LaughingBoy said...

Cook, do you see what you're fighting?

April 9, 2013 at 11:36 p.m.
acerigger said...

shen said.."Then there's the added burden of having to pay court fines or forced to plead guilty to a crime the individual didn't commit for lack of being able to afford legal representation. Then when those court fines go unpaid, because the individual lost that low-waged paying job while locked up, they lose their driving privilege because their license were suspended or revoked because the court fines went unpaid. So if the individual can't drive they can't look for work or retain employment if they have it

It's more better now in some states,(Georgia,Ohio),they simply put your ass in jail if you can't pay your fines. I'm sure that will solve the problem!

April 10, 2013 at 12:06 a.m.
tcrashfx said...

From my view as a street level law enforcement officer, as opposed to the view from a classroom level (Protected by armed guards), or an environmentally controlled office cubicle (Protected by armed guards), I know that there are many convicted felons who did their time, paid their dues, were realistically remorseful and turned their lives around. I would wager those paths were not easy and were not handed to these folks. I bet they all started in minimum wage jobs, with little education or skills. Most I know have ended up raising fine families, making a decent living and actually contributing to society, instead of existing as a parasite. As my Swedish mother would say, "It took some gumption."

President Obama just pardoned a local formerly felonious fellow who did the right thing, pulled himself out of the abyss he found himself in and did exceptionally well for the rest of his life as the TFP recently reported. Dude had some 'Gumption.'

This fact is so common it is rarely news anymore.

I will give Mr. Cook kudos for actually standing up for his opinion (However flawed and unrealistic it is) in a 'Comment' section, unlike pretty much all of the rest of staff TFP opinionators.

For more on the subject: http://sceniccity.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=police&action=display&thread=31777

April 10, 2013 at 7:54 a.m.
tcrashfx said...

"Anyone with a criminal record is a second class citizen in the U.S. It's near impossible to get a job when you have to check the convicted felon box. Felons can't go back to school unless they pay OUT OF POCKET. No scholarships, no loans."

Really? I know convicted felons who, WHILE IN PRISON, refused to join the Aryan Brotherhood, the Bloods, or the Crips, or play "Poor, Poor, Pitiful Me," on a small violin they could have fashioned out of FREE toothbrushes, dental floss and fake wood from the yard picnic bench.

Instead, they enrolled in the FREE TAXPAYER SUPPORTED High School, College, Masters, Doctorate and Law Degree programs and left the prison system with something more in their pocket than a toothbrush that sounded worse than an untuned plastic ukelele.

Unfortunately, due to the Tennessee Sentencing Guideline System, a convicted triple murderer, who was already on parole for his first 2 rapes/murders, both committed during a 15 kilo heroin deal rip-off that just happened to occur while he drove drunk, in a stolen van, down I-75 (South) with his four un-child-supported kids (Who were not in Child Restraint Devices) would not get enough actual time in prison to complete the initial TDOC GED course (Even with a taxpayer supported tutor.)

It should be noted that had he been shakin' and bakin' 3 grams of Meth and simultaneously distributing child porn on the internet, he maybe would have gotten enough time to get through the 11th Grade module.

April 10, 2013 at 8:21 a.m.
tcrashfx said...

Any post that begins with, "Studies have shown....." and then is followed by a bunch of words are, generally, complete BS.

Studies have shown that.

April 10, 2013 at 8:29 a.m.
dfreezy said...

Not everyone can pull themselves up by their boot straps like you seem to think. Not everyone has bootstraps. Your privilege is showing.

April 10, 2013 at 9:10 a.m.
shen said...

Really? I know convicted felons who, WHILE IN PRISON, refused to join the Aryan Brotherhood, the Bloods, or the Crips, or play "Poor, Poor, Pitiful Me," ,Instead, they enrolled in the FREE TAXPAYER SUPPORTED High School, College, Masters, Doctorate and Law Degree programs and left the prison system with something more in their pocket than a toothbrush

And unless they had friends who could pull strings for them, all those high school, college, masters, doctorate and law degrees aren't worth a hill of beans!

Plus, those friends of yours who did so well after accumulating prison and jail records likely came from another era. An era that existed long before America went into overdrive with its mass incsrceration of non-violent offenders and even innocents who got caught up in prison pipeline net to fill private prison beds and local jails in order to qualify for more federal tax dollars at_drum roll taxpayer expense.

April 10, 2013 at 9:23 a.m.
shen said...

It's more better now in some states,(Georgia,Ohio),they simply put your ass in jail if you can't pay your fines. I'm sure that will solve the problem!

On occasion, Tennessee has jailed individuals for unpaid fines too, ace. Although it goes against the Law Of The Land in America, there are always a way around such a law.

April 10, 2013 at 9:34 a.m.
shen said...

tcrashfx said... Any post that begins with, "Studies have shown....."

As any post that begins with "I have friends...." =s double, triple, quadruple B.S.

April 10, 2013 at 9:42 a.m.
tcrashfx said...

"Not everyone can pull themselves up by their boot straps like you seem to think."

I have to entitle these thugs the bootstraps, define the bootstraps and then pull them up by their bootstraps, that I gave them, or it's my fault they are bootstrapless?

"Not everyone has bootstraps."

Probably true, considering the entire world. In this country everyone is born with fetal bootstraps. Or, they're all provided with the tools to make some synthetic bootstraps for themselves, with the materials at hand, if they are so inclined.

"Your privilege is showing."

My 'privilege' is the fact that I was born into poverty, to immigrant parents, in America, in rural, racist Mississippi, in the early 1960s, and was endowed (Without me actually earning them) certain Constitutional rights, just 'cause I drew a breath in the US.

My 'privilege' was that I, in exchange for those rights, learned that certain RESPONSIBILITIES were required for me to continue to receive these free rights. My 'privilege' is that I soaked up, by force, the free education (At home, church and school) I was given.... All the way through college.

My 'privilege' was the fact that when I made bad choices (They were numerous and, sometimes, repetitive) I was forced, against my will, to pay for these errors in judgment in some righteous, painful (and fair) manner.

I was a teenager when the 911 system first came out and I thought that my getting a well-deserved a** whoopin' required I report this child abuse to the authorities.

The cops came out, heard my Mom's story, observed the damage I'd caused and they listened to my 'opinion piece' on the alleged incident (My 'opinion piece', curiously, sounded a lot like pretty much any David Cook opinion on crime and punishment.) One cop went to the trunk of the patrol car and got out a piece of bamboo and handed it to my mother. He said, "Do what you need to do, Momma, and we'll stop you if it approaches the level of child abuse."

She complied, as did the cops, and I survived. There was no 'truce' on the table. I have not dialed 911 since. (To this day, when I dial '9', for an outside line, the back of my thighs start burning.)

My 'privilege' is the fact that I was forced, again, against my will, to learn from these lessons at a tender young age. Deeds, actions, decisions clearly have consequences, as do words. My 'privilege' was that it was clearly demonstrated (By my parents, my teachers, my peers and the unsympathetic cops) that it was incumbent on ME to learn to earn the rights I had been graciously given.

My 'privilege' is that, to date, I've done my best to retain these lessons about right and wrong which were instilled into me by either a strong word, a look, a belt, a bamboo stick or a lost minor 'privilege.' I should note that it is settled law that parents do not have to follow the Constitution when raising future productive adults.

Yea. My 'privilege' is showing.

April 10, 2013 at 10:15 a.m.
tcrashfx said...

"As any post that begins with "I have friends....?"

Care to point out for us any post I have proffered that began with, included, or ended with, as you've falsely alleged, that tcrashfx stated, "I have friends....?"

Does your non-existent, but self-entitled, definition of 'privilege' include putting words in my mouth as ethereal proof of your point. A point that you've been, to date, unable to successfully argue?

C'mon, Brenda. You're slipping. In the past, you've often quoted me correctly. Get back with us when you get your stories straight.

April 10, 2013 at 10:32 a.m.
tcrashfx said...

"On occasion, Tennessee has jailed individuals for unpaid fines too....."

True. So? You're intimating that since, in the past, people have been unjustly jailed for things they should not have been jailed for, we should just quit jailing people, on principle?

April 10, 2013 at 10:41 a.m.
tcrashfx said...

So. Back to the topic at hand.

Do the readers agree that Mr. Cook should be just as wordy, forgiving, compassionate and enabling when it comes to murdering, racist and abhorrent collection of thugs as he has been wordy, forgiving, compassionate and enabling when it regards another group of thugs of his choice?

Do the readers agree that Mr. Cook should be just as willing to mediate a dispute between rival members of murdering, drug dealing and anti-social gangs (Who are murdering each other, with some occasional collateral damage to innocents) versus any other dispute amongst rival members of murdering, drug dealing and anti-social gangs?

April 10, 2013 at 10:51 a.m.
tcrashfx said...

Last one, for now.....

Regarding an ex-criminal applying for a job..... "He was told he'd have to be arrest/conviction free for three years before he could be considered for a position."

Three whole years? Conviction/arrest free?

If I was conviction/arrest free for the entire three years it took me to get through my sophomore year in college, he can do it!

April 10, 2013 at 11:06 a.m.
shen said...

My 'privilege' was the fact that when I made bad choices (They were numerous and, sometimes, repetitive) I was forced, against my will, to pay for these errors in judgment in some righteous, painful (and fair) manner. I was a teenager when the 911 system first came out and I thought that my getting a well-deserved a whoopin' required I report this child abuse to the authorities. The cops came out, heard my Mom's story, observed the damage I'd caused and they listened to my 'opinion piece' on the alleged incident (My 'opinion piece', curiously, sounded a lot like pretty much any David Cook opinion on crime and punishment.) One cop went to the trunk of the patrol car and got out a piece of bamboo and handed it to my mother. He said, "Do what you need to do, Momma, and we'll stop you if it approaches the level of child abuse."

But what if your mother had beaten you as a preventive measure on a what if or a maybe rather than you having committed an actual offense? Then the police came out and hauled you off to juvenile, after giving your mother the bamboo to beat your a%^! just to show you what would happen if although you hadn't committed any crime? This the way the laws operate in today's America and what the judicial system has morphed into. Targeting indivdiuals based on economics, class and even race to determine who is more likely to commit an offense, then going out looking for excuses to make arrests in targeted areas. It all has very little to do with crime and punishment and more to do with greed and money.

You were privileged to grow up in an era that used more common sense. One that expected youth to screw up from time to time. An era where the justice system wasn't about greed and hadn't turned into a monster money making machine that preyed on the general population. One where children as young as five and six years of age weren't Tased, handcuffed and hauled off to juvenile or charged with a felony for throwing a temper tantrum, charged with vandalism for writing on a school desk desk, spraying perfume on their person or, gawd forbid wearing the wrong colored shoes to school, or talking back. Or routinely stopped, frisked innocent citizens, even young teens, for going about their daily lives. A system that's morphed into a monster.

Having a criminal record today not only affects and cripples the accused, guilty or not, but can affect and cripple entire families for generations to come. A juvenile record can now affect siblings, parents and even offsprings when that juvenile becomes an adult and have children of his or her own.

That system you grew up in, although it always has been selective when it came to punishment, was more morally just at least for some, less greedy, more rational, humane, forgiving and geared more towards a second or even third chance.

You are right! You are privileged, but not for the reasons you list.

April 10, 2013 at 1:39 p.m.
shen said...

If I was conviction/arrest free for the entire three years it took me to get through my sophomore year in college, he can do it!

That's because you're one of the few privileged, and you were lucky to have come from an era where arrests were generally about actual crimes committed and not about bringing in revenue or meeting quotas. Arrests weren't routine and about numbers and body counts then the way they are now. There actually once was a rhyme and reason to the system. Now it's all about money, promotions, keeping the system greased by bringing in more abled bodies to fill prisons and jails. The acts that wouldn't have received so much as a citation or summons to court can now lead to an arrest, conviction and time in a prison or jail.

April 10, 2013 at 1:48 p.m.
davidcook said...

tcrashfx, you mentioned earlier you are a street level cop. Could I tag along with you for a shift or two? Just to see, in person, your side of the story? On or off record. Up to you.

April 10, 2013 at 3:21 p.m.
tcrashfx said...

Anytime. You just have to sign the forms, waive the liabilty and get the permissions from the higher-ups for a ride-a-long. For the record, I seldom go 'off the record.'

But, no forms, or permissions, are required to grab a lunch break. A shift, or two, would give you a greater perspective on another world view, though. Either way, I'm cool with it.

Back to the topic.... I was going to reply to "shen's" puerile comments regarding all my 'privilege', but sometimes allowing the contrary opinion of the author stand on its own merit, or lack thereof, carries more weight.

April 11, 2013 at 9:24 a.m.
shen said...

Truth is always the ultimate silencer. ;)

April 11, 2013 at 6:35 p.m.
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