published Saturday, August 24th, 2013

Church did not out family; they opted to go and other letters to the editors

Church did not oust family; they opted to go

I am appalled at what the paper put on the front page on Aug. 21 "Church ousts gay detective's family."

The headline is contradicted by the facts of the story. The fact is that the family chose to leave the church rather than repent of their sin. Mrs. Cooper knew the church's stance on homosexuality and sin. She could've repented, but chose to leave.

The church did not oust them at all. It saddens me that you print a headline that is contradictory to the facts.

Will you please issue an apology and a correction? Is the newspaper business hurting so much that it needs to make up phony headlines just to sell papers?

MARK CASSON, Harrison


Jack Daniel's jobs make harmful product

Ninety jobs from the Jack Daniels Distillery expansion in Lynchburg, Tenn., seems great until you read the report from the Centers for Disease Control that states that, in 2001, 34,833 people died from cirrhosis of the liver, cancer and other diseases from too much beer, wine or spirits. Another 40,933 died from car crashes or other mishaps caused from excessive drinking. It went on to state that excessive for men was more than two--drinks a day or more then four per occasion. For woman it was more then one per day or more then three per occasion. The numbers don't even touch the families destroyed, marriages ruined and children with few good childhood memories. But hey, we have 90 new jobs!!

CLARK CRAWFORD, Ooltewah


Cook's columns belong on Opinions pages

On occasion, I have felt that David Cook's articles rightfully belong on the opinion editorial pages. His article published Aug. 21 titled, "The Church that stole Jesus" is a perfect example of what belongs in the editorial section. The only facts in referenced article concerning the subject matter have been previously reported as news in the news section.

Cooke's vitriolic ramblings regarding the action of the church leaders and pastor is certainly not news. His statement that their actions are not Christian is his judgmental opinion and certainly not news.

In closing, I refer Cook to Matthew 7: 1, for guidance in the preparation of his future columns.

TOM CREAL, Signal Mountain


Inaccuracies in paper should be pointed out

Thank you for printing Ben Benton's story on centenarian Lucille Lewis on Aug 19. It was heart--warming. However, please note that in paragraph two William Howard Taft was incorrectly identified to as the nation's 28th president. In fact, it was Woodrow Wilson who was in his first year of office when Mrs. Lewis was born.

I understand your position on letting Drew Johnson go; but I wonder if the person who didn't approve his poorly worded headline is the same person who did approve headline that appeared in very large type on the Free Press editorial page Sunday, Aug. 18.

Please reassure us that there is still someone working at the TFP who knows the difference between "flout" and "flaunt."

J.M. PENDLETON

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daytonsdarwin said...

Mark Casson wrote: "The fact is that the family chose to leave the church rather than repent of their sin."

Yes, it is a terrible sin to love your children. It's OK to kill innocent people because some god tells you to, or enslave populations because god tells you to, or be bigoted, ignorant followers of imaginary saviors because god tells you to.

"If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. -- Deuteronomy 21:18-21"

But love your children who become good adults, hold jobs, protect other people, respect their parents?

Of course, that's a sin! How wonderful we have Christian fundamentalists who take ancient texts for historical and scientific accuracy, and who cherry pick parts of those poorly written fairy-tales to make loving your good child a sin.

So let's have a meeting tomorrow at that church where all children who refused to eat Brussel sprouts and pork liver can be killed for the glory of Jehovah.

Let's show the love of Jesus, Jehovah, and the truth of the Bible as the blood flows. Bring your own rocks for the stoning or rocks will be available for purchase from the Submissive Women's Wednesday Evening Love-Your-Neighbor Prayer Group.

Dinner-on-the-grounds afterwards, so please bring a covered dish to share.

August 24, 2013 at 8:21 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

Regarding Mark Casson's letter: Ya gotta love the fundamentalist Christian notion of what constitutes free will. These yahoos like to say that God gives us the "free will" to choose which path we take in life, that he could have easily made us perfect, like robots programmed to love him without question, but he preferred to make us imperfect and with a mind of our own so that we might come to him of our own volition. Of course, if we DON'T believe exactly in accordance with how he COMMANDS that we believe, then our "free" choice will lead us straight to hell and eternal suffering. In other words, God says, "Okay, my children, I'm leaving it entirely up to you how to live your life but if you don't live it like I tell you to live it, well, you know how that's gonna end for you!" I'm sorry but I just don't see how there is any kind of choice or free will involved there. It looks to me like....choose God's way or the highway to hell. End of story.

And, Mark Casson, the "choice" that the church offered the Coopers is like the choice provided by the Inquisitors during the Inquisition: Renounce your heretical ways and beg for forgiveness or get ready to be drawn and quartered or have your head brutally and instantly detached from your body. Thank god we've evolved sufficiently that we have laws protecting us from the Bible thumping lunatics like you, but you and your fundamentalist wackos still do your level best to play judge, jury, and executioner in your own way today. You can't kill your detractors and heretics but by god you can still excommunicate them. The Coopers didn't "choose" to be severed from their church, they were forcefully ejected from it by self-righteous small minded bigots.

The only question that I have for Kat Cooper and her mother is, why in the world would they want to associate with such hateful scums of the earth anyway? And if their friends who belong to that church don't leave that church along with them, then they weren't really their friends in the first place. If they still choose to worship an imaginary sky daddy there are plenty of churches who will accept them. Time to move on and leave places like the Ridgedale Church of Christ to smolder in the toxic dung heap of its own excrement.

August 24, 2013 at 12:58 p.m.
Plato said...

MARK CASSON: I am appalled at what the paper put on the front page on Aug. 21 "Church ousts gay detective's family." ==============================================================

I'm curious if people that are guilty of "sins" other than homosexuality are scrutinized with equal vigor by this church to they point they feel compelled to leave?

August 24, 2013 at 3:23 p.m.
Plato said...

CLARK CRAWFORD: Ninety jobs from the Jack Daniels Distillery expansion in Lynchburg, Tenn., seems great until you read the report from the Centers for Disease Control that states that, in 2001, 34,833 people died from cirrhosis of the liver, cancer and other diseases from too much beer, wine or spirits.

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Blame the manufacturer for the abuse of their product - brilliant!

August 24, 2013 at 3:25 p.m.
conservative said...

Plato,

You gave yourself away when you put sins in quotes.

August 24, 2013 at 5:20 p.m.
jjmez said...

Mark Casson, your take is comical. Isn't the option to repent of leave, the same as saying You have to go if you don't repent? To repent suggest the family must be guilty of some wrongs. What wrongs are they guilty of? If they have done nothing wrong, they have nothing to feel ashamed of nor any reason to repent.

August 24, 2013 at 7 p.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

conservative said...

Plato,

"You gave yourself away when you put sins in quotes."

Conservative -Gawd's own Charles Manson but without the personality.

August 24, 2013 at 7:15 p.m.

Great point Mark Casson. Church discipline (asking that members keep their membership vows in order to stay members) in America is so rare that, when it goes public, it incites reactions like the deliberate inaccuracy of CTFP headlines, along with the pathetic (but predictable) hyperbole and ad hominem diatribes supporting such yellow journalism.

August 24, 2013 at 9 p.m.

And yes, the church should be even-handed, disciplining the conservative sins of its members as well as the liberal sins. When practiced with love and with the goal of restoration, church discipline can bring health and reconciliation to the body of believers. Trivializing membership vows warrants the charge of hypocrisy just as much as failing to be consistent or charitable. The 21st century American church and its critics are quite the mess.

See? We have something in common! We both are what’s wrong with the world.

August 24, 2013 at 9:10 p.m.
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