published Monday, February 4th, 2013

How do we get students to learn? and other letters to the editors

How do we get students to learn?

The left side editorial Thursday says again how vouchers will undermine the public school system. You also say that we should, through the governor and tax dollars, "double-down for the long-term on pre-kindergarten and before- and after-school mentoring programs, and serious parental out-reach and mentoring."

You further say these low-performing schools have "too few teachers, resources and catch-up programs" to effectively inspire those students to learn the skills they need to compete in the job markets of today.

I believe the problem is how to get the students to effectively learn, not how to get the teachers to effectively teach. Teachers are doing a very good job, especially given their resources. The question is how to get the students to want to learn.

The answer is suggested by the saying, "it takes a village to raise a child." Until all Chattanooga and Hamilton County people and organizations work together to inspire low-performing students from undesirable backgrounds to want to learn, and to work hard to learn, the good results we want will be elusive. It is more than just a parent's job, although they are the number one resource. More mountains of money will not do the job.


Be more specific in weather reports

Is there any reason why our meteorologists, when announcing where weather conditions are in such and such county, they can't tell what city or town is involved"

Pity the tourist traveling through our area. Like me, they wouldn't be aware of what county they were in.

Same way with mentioning mile marker 306 or 308. What specific area is that?


Conservatives lean toward extremism

What has happened to the conservative movement in America?

We claim to be "pro-life," but we cannot accept a ban on assault weapons, whose only purpose is to kill lots of people in a hurry.

We claim to be "pro-family," but some of us want to quickly deport everyone who entered this country illegally, even though many of those people are just hard-working folks who came here out of desperation, trying to give their families a fighting chance.

And even though we all know that compromise is an essential ingredient to any healthy relationship, our political leaders will not even consider this approach when dealing with their government counterparts on "the other side."

I'm afraid that in the process of opposing liberal extremism, we have become extremists ourselves.

DAVID THOMAS, Signal Mountain

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anniebelle said...

I don't have any idea what your term "liberal extremism" means, but: "I do know that about 30 years ago, our country moved in a new direction. New leadership (Republican) attacked Wages. They attacked Pensions. They attacked Health Care. They attacked Unions. Now we find ourselves in a very different world than our parents and grandparents built. We are now in a world where the rich skim more off the top in taxes and special deals, and they leave less and less for our schools, roads and bridges, for medical and scientific research -- less to build a future." ~~Eizabeth Warren

February 4, 2013 at 6:23 a.m.
Lr103 said...

"I believe the problem is how to get the students to effectively learn, not how to get the teachers to effectively teach. Teachers are doing a very good job"

I think the problem is multi-complex. If we're serious about educating America's children, all of its children, then the game playing and educational sabotage needs to stop. If you want to inspire and engage students in the learning process, you have to have engating and inspiring teachers who want to teach and who want to be in the school they're sent to teach in. If the teacher is bitter about the school he/she has been sent to, that bitterness is immediately picked up on by the students. Rather than force teachers to teach where they don't want to be, I believe it would be better to provide incentives for the ones who are willing and eager to teach at certain schools.

February 4, 2013 at 9:07 a.m.
ordinaryguy said...

Hats off to Mr. Gobble for responding to the tabloid like journalism of Drew Johnson...a good reporter would have named names on the jeans purchase, not make insinuations without backing them up...also the attack on Mr. Phillips and former TFP journalist Mr. Martin were the Piers Morgan type of journalism that has become the norm at the TFP news department...Mr. Gobble is doing a remarkable job at turning East Ridge into a city that is not just a place to grab a quick bite to eat while traveling the interstate...

February 4, 2013 at 1:08 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

"I'm afraid that in the process of opposing liberal extremism, we have become extremists ourselves." - David Thomas

I'm curious about this "liberal extremism" you mention, Mr. Thomas. Of what does it consist exactly? I'm a pretty liberal liberal. But I have not gotten any MORE liberal these past 5, 10, or 20 years of my life. What I have witnessed is a persistent whittling away of the rights enjoyed by women, minorities, and the middle class and the average working person ever since Reagan came on the scene and then the religious nuts and the Tea Party began to flex their muscles and exert their influence on a gullible and acquiescent GOP.

We liberals have not gotten any more extreme. We've just been trying like hell to maintain and regain some of the policies and laws that the rabid righties have so methodically and insidiously stripped away from us over the past 30 years.

February 4, 2013 at 1:20 p.m.
Livn4life said...

Ah the pretense we see as if the only extremism in existence is on the right side. Liberal:generous, ample, abundant, not literal or strict; tolerant, broadminded; favoring reform or progressive. Now the first part could not be further from the truth at what today's so called liberals are. The tolerant being equated with people who are tolerant only of positions they agree with. We saw all the tolerance of the leftist media when attacking anything or anyone who were described by the C word. And of course when the progressiveness becomes open invitation for so called liberals to lie and never be called on it; yeah that is extreme. But then as we can note on this site anything not in keeping with anniebelle's and ricaroo's perspective is always extreme(wink).

February 4, 2013 at 1:51 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

When so many people on the right have come to reject the very basics of science, history, and reality and embrace concepts such as creationism (a world that is only 6000-8000 years old) and totally disavow evolution, when they make stupid claims about things like "legitimate rape," and when they refer to abortions (even in the first trimester of pregnancy) as "murder," and when they deny the almost irrefutable evidence of global warming, and when they call Obama a socialist/Marxist/Communist without having even a rudimentary understanding of the very words they are spewing out, and when they call constitutionally sanctioned taxation "stealing from the makers to give to the takers"...and when we react with utter abhorrence at how anybody can be so stupid and willfully ignorant about such things, and you want to call that "extreme" on our part?? Well, so be it. We just call 'em as we see 'em. It is only natural to react to EXTREME idiocy in an EXTREME way.

February 4, 2013 at 2:14 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Great post, Rickaroo!

February 4, 2013 at 2:25 p.m.
Plato said...

or as this "extremist" put it:

"Republicans have to quit being the stupid party" Gov. Bobby Jindal, R. La.

February 4, 2013 at 11:17 p.m.
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