published Wednesday, January 16th, 2013

Lance

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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Salsa said...

They didn't call him Lance Pharmstrong for nothing.

January 16, 2013 at 12:16 a.m.
Anklejive said...

Maybe someday, people will finally learn to choose principle over money and power.

January 16, 2013 at 1:11 a.m.
alprova said...

He learned the concept from playing video games.

The player with the most cheat codes usually comes out a winner.

January 16, 2013 at 3:27 a.m.
jesse said...

The days of doin it on guts are over!

Last sports hero i had was Hank Aaron!

January 16, 2013 at 4:10 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Sorry to burst your bubble but, in his book, Hammerin' Hank admitted to taking amphetamines.

And possibly took steroids.

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/08/29/does-this-prove-that-hank-aaron-was-juicing/

Every generation always thinks their generation was better. You're not looking at it objectively. Steroids aren't new. Performance-enhancing drugs aren't either. Athletes dope, juice, and enhance to perform at a high level. If someone offered you millions to ride a bike or hit a baseball and the only way you could consistently do that was through PED use, would you do it? I bet you would. Doing it on guts is a pipe dream in today's society. Everyone has their drug of choice whether it's caffeine, Adderall, testosterone, hGH, EPO, or corticosteroids, the best athletes always find a way to get an edge. We just deem some of those methods illegal.

January 16, 2013 at 5:19 a.m.
jesse said...

Easy, when he was my hero we didn't know that!!

Why are you always in somebody's face??

You come off sounding like you are 5'5" ,250 lbs,been bullied all your life and never grew out of it!

January 16, 2013 at 5:39 a.m.
fairmon said...

Does confession of drugging and lying make anything different other than let the world including those that believed the lies know the truth? Does it lessen the penalty and wipe the slate clean? When will the war on drugs, gambling, prostitution and other vices be won? Never, it has never been throughout history so the logical option is to Legislate, regulate, educate and tax at a level that will pay for educating about the personal consequences, regulating, enforcement and treatment. Alcohol can be terrible with terrible consequences but prohibition didn't reduce the use or risk it only made some criminals very wealthy just as other vices are doing now. The out of control Mexican rug cartels with their distribution network in the U.S. comparable to Walmarts is a good example. Cadilac driving pimps that lure women to or force prostitution is another. Too many people think accepting the regulating option is like their personal approval. There is no federal law against gambling but a gaming license is required and taxes must be paid, the IRS is the enforcer. Local and state laws enable the local bookie to become wealthy.

January 16, 2013 at 5:59 a.m.
Easy123 said...

jesse,

How was I in your face? By presenting facts? Why do you get so affronted when someone provides an opposing view?

How is it that I come off sounding like that? How do you logically come to that conclusion after what I said? You present your opinion. I present mine. But, for some reason, you act butt-hurt when mine conflicts with yours. If you would like to sit in a corner and have your ego stroked, you've come to the wrong place. I'm trying to engage in honest dialogue.

You might want to grow up. You don't run sh!t around here. I'm entitled to say whatever I want. Do you enjoy coming off so sensitive? I bet your wife can't get a word in edgewise because you chastise her for "getting in your face".

January 16, 2013 at 6:04 a.m.
fairmon said...

How many people think making something illegal reduces participation in bad behavior more than education and regulation would? How many people, especially young people, want to try something because it is illegal? Cathedral building bible thumpers will not accept there is a better alternative than keeping bad behavior from being public knowledge, that somehow being illegal is what makes it a sin. They believe that allowing the vices to be decriminalized, regulating etc. will destroy the country while actually failing to do so is more likely to do that. Is the best answer building more jails and increasing prisons population?

January 16, 2013 at 6:15 a.m.
fairmon said...

5:59 a.m. post said..The out of control Mexican rug cartels. In case this typo confused someone it should be drug cartels.

January 16, 2013 at 6:22 a.m.
jesse said...

As "Brother Dave Gardner " used to say "If we made everything legal wouldn't be no crime!"

January 16, 2013 at 6:45 a.m.
dao1980 said...

Those Mexican rug cartels are nothing to mess around with either fairmon.

I hear there is actually an extremely violent Mexican nose-hair trimmer cartel that has the city of Puquitertra under lockdown.

January 16, 2013 at 7:15 a.m.
Maximus said...

Very sad about Lance. Having done a little cycling myself I understand how riding 150 miles in one day saps your entire body. The Tour De France is 150 miles every day with a few shorter time trial (sprint) days, often times through the alps no less, for a month with only a few official "rest days". I understand the Tour De France officials are having a difficult time assigning the winners of the 7 tours that Lance won while juicing because in most of the races the riders that came in second to Lance juiced also. Lance's lies will be a blow to the cycling world and a blow to the cycling community and industry in Chattanooga.

January 16, 2013 at 7:25 a.m.
dude_abides said...

maximus... See, this is one of those mornings in which you try to be taken seriously after lying out your a$$ on a regular basis.

January 16, 2013 at 7:32 a.m.
jesse said...

Dude, maybe he turned over a new leaf!

January 16, 2013 at 7:37 a.m.
dao1980 said...

It was a golden, jewel encrusted leaf... very expensive.. probably too expensive for anyone posting here to afford..

January 16, 2013 at 7:43 a.m.
patriot1 said...

Jesse...Why is baseball different? It's always been about cheating. Corking bats, greasing or sanding on the ole ball...it seems as if it was what you could get away with, just an accepted part of the game. Players even "steal" bases. Yeah, I know Clemens and Bonds and all that, but isn't the aforementioned cheating too?

January 16, 2013 at 8:34 a.m.
potcat said...

How would it be a blow to the cycling world? It could'nt since everyone thats in the cycling world does it.

Its not humanly possible to do this feat every day without a drug. Lance was even getting blood transfers while riding and the officials were all in on it. A lot of money was made and Lance was thier man.

Tiger and Lance have huge egos and are immoral sluts and the Press are culprits in this also because they won't tell the truth either.

My favorite is Babe Ruth..............

When will everyone get off their high horse and just let them have at it and then every one will know they are doing PERFORMANCE drugs and blood tranfusions etc.

When does it take 6 years to get a drug test back? They need the drug testers that do me. It takes about 5 min.

January 16, 2013 at 8:36 a.m.
daytonsdarwin said...

Lance, through his repeated lies, is not fit for the sport of cycling.

However, he is qualified for Congress, the Littlefield administration, and evangelism.

January 16, 2013 at 8:48 a.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote: "Does confession of drugging and lying make anything different other than let the world including those that believed the lies know the truth?"

There are people like myself who would have been just as content to let the matter die a natural death. Why he chose to admit guilt I'm sure was done for reasons of his own, but all it has done is to revive an ugly issue all over again.

"Does it lessen the penalty and wipe the slate clean?"

Probably not.

"When will the war on drugs, gambling, prostitution and other vices be won? Never, it has never been throughout history so the logical option is to Legislate, regulate, educate and tax at a level that will pay for educating about the personal consequences, regulating, enforcement and treatment."

Sir, there must be societal standards. I'm not quite ready to drive on our roadways dodging masses of people walking and/or driving around in a zombie like state all the time, nor look forward to brothels and casinos on every street corner like bars now exist on Rossville Boulevard.

At the same time, I too believe that taxing vices and legalizing them would be a better way to deal with the problems associated with them, rather than to clog up our justice systems dealing with such issues all the time, while larger, more detrimental crimes go the wayside.

A person who murders someone quite often spends less time in prison than someone found guilty of consuming an illegal substance.

January 16, 2013 at 9:01 a.m.
degage said...

suprise, suprise, I never agree with easy but his 5:19 post makes sense. score one Easy.

January 16, 2013 at 9:03 a.m.
Rebus said...

Sorry to hear that, Mr. Gage.

January 16, 2013 at 9:14 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

For us all, decriminalize drugs but let any person or group that has standards against drug use enforce its own standards within its sphere. You don't care if your workers or customers use drugs? Fine (except for public safety issue; I don't suppose we want truck drivers snorting down the road.) You want your workers and customers to be clean? Also fine; don't use cops to enforce acceptance of drug use.

Likewise for sports. If some sport is OK with most anything, fine; if it has clear standards it can enforce, fine. I suppose NFL players legitimately need legal prescription stuff for their injuries, and one of Evander Holyfield's wives was a pain doctor. But taking away victories won, especially years later, I have qualms about: the races were run, the games played. Add asterisks, punish evildoers, but keep results except for clear mistakes or severe cheating quickly caught. Execution by stoning for Jerry Sandusky, but don't pretend his teams didn't win football games, and don't punish innocent players.

Teen Challenge may not have cathedrals, but it helps people get free of the slavery of drugs.

That the Tour de France can't decide who won Lance's victories is funnier than the cartoon.

January 16, 2013 at 9:18 a.m.
patriot1 said...

easy...you do make a good point, but it's not just atheletes. Why would politicans, say...Nancy Pelosi for example, "juice up" with Botox and go under the knife. To make herself look younger, more voter appeal? Would this give her an unfair advantage to an opponent who doesn't "juice?" These politicans (Pelosi is not the only one) then calls Clemens, et al, before their committee and questions him as to what kind of needle he is sticking in his butt. Such hypocrisy!!!

January 16, 2013 at 9:29 a.m.
Rebus said...

Sure, anything goes. Right boys? Good grief.

January 16, 2013 at 9:40 a.m.
Easy123 said...

patriot1,

That goes along with my point. We all have our own vices. We all have things we use to make us look better or feel better. Some people use caffeine, some use Botox, others use plastic surgery, and so on. We are a society of quick fixes. We want to be thinner, stronger, faster, smarter, etc. as quickly as possible with as little effort as possible.

All these factors make me question the illegality of PED's. We all want to see home runs, hard hits, broken records, higher jumps, etc. but we demonize people that give us those very things because they used certain "enhancements". It doesn't make sense. All the while, we hear the propaganda about the negative effects of steroids and other anabolic agents on the body. But is it all true? We give testosterone to aging men to help with their libido, muscle tone, energy levels, etc. but it will kill a healthy adult? I call B.S.

Lance Armstrong got caught "doping". Blood doping is taking your blood out a few weeks before competition and then injecting it back into yourself before the event. This puts more red blood cells back into your blood stream and allows more oxygen to go from your lungs to your muscles i.e. more stamina. You can also use the drug EPO. It has the same effect as doping but it causes your body to make more RBC's instead. But you could train at high altitudes or sleep in a hyperbaric chamber and get the exact same effects as blood doping or using EPO. Yet, the blood doping and EPO are illegal and training at altitude/sleeping in a hyperbaric chamber isn't. Why? They all do the exact same thing.

I've just never understood why people demonize steroids.

January 16, 2013 at 9:53 a.m.
Rebus said...

Jesse: The 5'5" part seems dead on.

January 16, 2013 at 10:55 a.m.
Easy123 said...

Rebus_Jack_Troll_Dennis,

Try 6'1". Troll on, Rebus_Troll.

January 16, 2013 at 10:59 a.m.
dao1980 said...

Ok, hold up now just a minute. Rebus, are you really JackyD?

If not just say no. If so, I must inquire, why would you change your name?

I do remember that Jack used to always accuse folks on here of being multiple posters at the same time. Which seemed a little petty and paranoid, but I can't imagine that someone with that type of confused imagination would ever... do which they denounced others for... right?

Oh, and on the subject at hand:

Patriot1 makes an excellent point. In this culture of glamorized hypocrisy on all levels, how can we judge anyone for doing that which is "approved" of by those who decide what is ok and what is not in the first place?

January 16, 2013 at 11:21 a.m.
alprova said...

Okay....subject change.

Obama signed a list of 23 Executive Orders following his announcement of his Administration's calling for a ban on certain types of guns and ammunition.

the list of the 23 orders he signed can be read here;

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/16/obama-to-announce-gun-control-proposals-shortly/?hpt=hp_c1

Is there really anyone who has any issue with so much as one of those orders? I don't because not one of those orders is an attack on 2nd Amendment rights whatsoever.

He did not ban one weapon by Executive Order. He is calling for Congress to get to work on banning certain weapons, which is the right way to go about it.

January 16, 2013 at 1:33 p.m.
patriot1 said...

alpo (registered republican) the subject is Lance Armstrong or do you just like to troll?

January 16, 2013 at 1:56 p.m.
Rebus said...

dao1980: Not that it's any of your beeswax, but you probably have not received mail and phone calls at home from some of the punks on this site. BTW, I don't like name changes either. I stand on that. I'll guarantee you the punks on here have used multiple names.

January 16, 2013 at 2:11 p.m.
conservative said...

If the info in this article is correct, Owebama's proposal is laughable.

Now, that I have said that many here will be forced to support and praise it. Problem solved no more school shootings. Right?

Obama unveils sweeping plan to battle gun violence

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-unveils-sweeping-plan-battle-gun-violence-165956859--politics.html

January 16, 2013 at 2:13 p.m.
Rebus said...

ALPO: Just showtime for the Imperial President. The EO's are simply crass, maudlin, and despicable. 23 executive actions and a push to renew assault weapons ban and a ban on magazines holding over ten rounds. For the children. Most of whom are slaughtered in gun free zones. By criminals.

January 16, 2013 at 2:15 p.m.
conservative said...

Owebama in his proposal puts some blame on video games and wants to tax them.

I applaud the blame.

Let's hope he blames violent Hollywood next.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-unveils-sweeping-plan-battle-gun-violence-165956859--politics.html

January 16, 2013 at 2:29 p.m.
Rebus said...

Pure grandstanding to his base. No one does it better than the Emperor

January 16, 2013 at 2:41 p.m.
dao1980 said...

Well Rebus, that works for me. I wholeheartedly retract my implied "gasp!".

Sorry to hear that some folks on this forum are so bored, and take this jive so seriously that they would look you up just to call and harass you.

Very few of us here are guilt free regarding the temptation to be obnoxious and to fain deeper convictions than are actually held, but searching for a poster outside of the forum seems like borderline harassment to me.

January 16, 2013 at 2:44 p.m.
conservative said...

Harry Ried has more important things to do.

"Harry Reid: The Assault Weapons Ban Is Probably Doomed"

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/01/harry-reid-assault-weapons-ban.php#ixzz2IAg2hGJR

January 16, 2013 at 3:20 p.m.
jesse said...

I see item #18 pertains to hiring S.R.O.'s!

I assume they WILL be ARMED!

If not then just another bullet stopper!

January 16, 2013 at 3:37 p.m.
jesse said...

I see item #18 pertains to hiring S.R.O.'s!

I assume they WILL be ARMED!

If not then just another bullet stopper!

BTW: is anybody else having trouble w/ this web site! sucker is gittin kinda aggravatin!

January 16, 2013 at 3:39 p.m.
alprova said...

patriot1 (registered room monitor) will you please point to me the relevant sentence in the TFP terms of service that tells me that I am not allowed to post on any topic of my choosing in this forum?

I don't see you calling down anyone else for doing so, so your choice to call me down for it only proves that you are a whiny little beotch.

Now that I have referred to you with a modicum of disrespect, you can whine a little more about me being a troll. Prior to today, I have never disrespected you an ounce.

January 16, 2013 at 4 p.m.
Rebus said...

dao1980: Fair enough.

January 16, 2013 at 4:02 p.m.
patriot1 said...

alpo (registered republican)sorry, your right I shouldn't have done that. You can post any thing you like on any subject. Here's a stock tip for you, maybe you could sell your Hobby Lobby stock and buy

http://money.cnn.com/2013/01/16/news/companies/gun-obama/index.html?section=money_news_com..

January 16, 2013 at 6:06 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Rebus... Why the hell couldn't you have just said that before now?

January 16, 2013 at 7:13 p.m.
Easy123 said...

dude_,

I was wondering the same thing. I don't know if I buy that story considering how long it took him to actually tell it. It's not like dao1980 was the first person to question his true identity.

And how would changing your "handle" have any effect on someone having his home address and phone number? It's not like people here don't know who Rebus actually is.

Also, I do think Rebus was accusing you and I of said harassment. We are the only posters he refers to as "punks".

January 16, 2013 at 7:29 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Very few of us here are guilt free regarding the temptation to be obnoxious and to fain deeper convictions than are actually held, but searching for a poster outside of the forum seems like borderline harassment to me

Ditto

January 16, 2013 at 7:35 p.m.
alprova said...

parrot1 (registered idiot)...you go right ahead and purchase all the gun stocks you wish. In the coming weeks, they will tank...big time.

I'll not be doing so, nor taking any stock tips from somebody whom needs big guns to attempt to compensate for their small penis.

January 16, 2013 at 8:18 p.m.
fairmon said...

aprova said.....

Sir, there must be societal standards. I'm not quite ready to drive on our roadways dodging masses of people walking and/or driving around in a zombie like state all the time, nor look forward to brothels and casinos on every street corner like bars now exist on Rossville Boulevard.

alprova....are you sure you aren't on the road with those zombie state folks now? I agree with not on every corner. Legislate then REGULATE, REGULATE and regulate, tax and enforce the regulations. The users will not be any greater. Would you use drugs if they were legal and your buying was recorded and reported?

January 16, 2013 at 8:39 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Easy... I took the same meaning from his post. Sheesh, I don't have the time to think about this stuff when I'm not on here running my mouth. I really don't see that potential in any of the posters on here. May be some lurkers. I just like to get my yayas out and go on, myself. I'm gonna drop the references to the old name anyway. If he's lying, well, I guess he wins the Tour De France!

January 16, 2013 at 9:05 p.m.
Rebus said...

Not accusing anyone...have no proof. Just trying to mitigate the situation by not putting real name out there anymore.

January 16, 2013 at 9:33 p.m.
dude_abides said...

In the interest of full disclosure and fairness, I am going to go ahead and reveal my real name. I trust this info will be safe within this group. My name is Syd Barrett, and I am an alprovaholic.

January 16, 2013 at 9:46 p.m.
GratefulDawg said...

"My name is Syd Barrett, and I am an alprovaholic. --dude_abides"

Shine on you crazy diamond!

January 16, 2013 at 9:53 p.m.
Rebus said...

Using my real name was stupid. I'll cop to that. Let's move on with more nastiness!

January 16, 2013 at 10:40 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Let's discuss the school massacre conspiracy theorists, or "Sandy Hookers," as I like to call them.

January 16, 2013 at 10:48 p.m.
GratefulDawg said...

Lance Armstrong is a cheater and, by most accounts, a reprehensible human being. His timing, on the other hand, is impeccable. His sort-of confession to Oprah has run the 24 hour news cycle and is now old news.

Notre Dame Linebacker Manti Te'o is now all the rage as he explains his former relationship with a now deceased girlfriend that never existed. To quote Vince Lombardi: "WHAT THE HELL IS GOIN' ON OUT THERE!" I have followed college football since I was just a grateful pup, and this is hands-down the weirdest story I have ever seen. Manti met "the love of his life" in Palo Alto, though they never met. She visited him when he was at home in Hawaii, the family never met her but father Te'o was preparing to welcome her into the family. Then she contracted leukemia following a car crash...Huh?

Truth may be stranger than fiction, but when fiction becomes your truth is when things get really freaky.

January 17, 2013 at 12:51 a.m.
jesse said...

If your Syd Barrett then i understand why you are an Alprovaholic!

Syd never made it back from his last trip either! :)

January 17, 2013 at 7:54 a.m.
conservative said...

Surprise! Owebama exploits the Sandy Hook shooting.

His proposal has more ammo for the gun makers than the gun takers in my opinion. The store shelves of guns and ammo are almost empty. Heavy backorders also even on magazines ( not the kind you read Liberals). It is almost as if Owebama has conspired with the gun makers.

The phony "assault" weapons ban is not going to pass. Harry Reid has admitted the same. He is not even going to bring it up now, he has other priorities.

"Harry Reid: The Assault Weapons Ban Is Probably Doomed"

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/01/harry-reid-assault-weapons-ban.php#ixzz2IAg2hGJR

January 17, 2013 at 8:12 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

conservative, this only shows just how far the NRA has spread paranoia.

January 17, 2013 at 8:13 a.m.
raygunz said...

lkeithlu said...

conservative, this only shows just how far the NRA has spread paranoia.

I'm sure you know that it AINT just the NRA spreading paranoia, not just Faux Newz either,the entire corporate media apparatus is part of it too.

January 17, 2013 at 8:44 a.m.
Rebus said...

gunz; Not to mention The Emperor making hay on the disaster.

January 17, 2013 at 8:59 a.m.
conservative said...

Great article by Ann Coulter:

"Guns Don't Kill People, the Mentally Ill Do"

"Seung-Hui Cho, who committed the Virginia Tech massacre in 2007, had been diagnosed with severe anxiety disorder as a child and placed under treatment."

"But Virginia Tech was prohibited from being told about Cho's mental health problems because of federal privacy laws."

http://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2013/01/16/guns-dont-kill-people-the-mentally-ill-do-n1491044?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl

January 17, 2013 at 9:08 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Oh how cute!

The entire Middle East and Northern Africa looks like it is spinning out of control and Bennett is amusing himself with yellow bracelets.

January 17, 2013 at 9:11 a.m.
Rebus said...

Girls Star Lena Dunham Likens Republicans To Nazis:

OK, FINE. 2 questions:

  1. Who cares what Lena Dunham thinks?
  2. Who the hell IS Lena Dunham?
January 17, 2013 at 9:13 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

lkeithlu said... "this only shows just how far the NRA has spread paranoia."

The NRA? I do not need the NRA to know I have a president and a democrat party that wants to confiscate firearms in this country. All I have to do is listen when one of them open their putrid pie holes.

You also know this to be the case but you are too wiling to hide behind the standard "no one want to take your guns away" talking point. You know this is an incremental process just like Health Care. Why are progressives so shy about sharing their true beliefs and desires?

Thieving, lying cowards!

January 17, 2013 at 9:19 a.m.
alprova said...

The paranoia is strong with this one...

January 17, 2013 at 9:30 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

alprova said... "The paranoia is strong with this one..."

If the paranoia is strong, it is because I have read and listened to what the likes of Obama and Feinstein have said over the years. It is more important to listen to what they say when they are not actively pursuing legislation. Now you cannot see their true position because they are trying to present themselves as reasonable people who care about the Constitution. They do not fool me. You do not fool me.

January 17, 2013 at 9:40 a.m.
conservative said...

Great article by Ann Coulter:

"Guns Don't Kill People, the Mentally Ill Do"

"The 2011 Tucson, Ariz., shopping mall shooter, Jared Loughner, was so obviously disturbed that if he'd stayed in Pima Community College long enough to make the yearbook, he would have been named "Most Likely to Commit Mass Murder."'

"After Loughner got a tattoo, the artist, Carl Grace, remarked: "That's a weird dude. That's a Columbine candidate."'

"One of Loughner's teachers, Ben McGahee, filed numerous complaints against him, hoping to have him removed from class. "When I turned my back to write on the board," McGahee said, "I would always turn back quickly -- to see if he had a gun."'

http://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2013/01/16/guns-dont-kill-people-the-mentally-ill-do-n1491044?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl

January 17, 2013 at 9:46 a.m.
conservative said...
January 17, 2013 at 9:46 a.m.
patriot1 said...

Step back and take a look at the Patriot Act, as it relates to our rights to privacy, the taking over of private businesses, now the talk of gun bans, perhaps we're not paranoid enough. Not so long ago liberals were supposedly the voice of rights, freedoms, etc. Where are you now?

January 17, 2013 at 9:54 a.m.
Maximus said...

I am going to bring it back to Lance and tell Clay that I think the yellow Rx bracelet is one of his best and most creative doodles but I will also say that Barry and Biden are once again doing their "Unrepentent Marxist Handbook" tactics when it comes to their so-called response to Sandy Hook....form a committee to show we are large and in charge and care soooo much, use the committee and kids as a prop to gain PR support, and then defy the Constitution and the American people as they continue to "transform" and punish the evil American Middle Class into submission. As for Lance, it has been said that he suffers from "Abandonment Syndrome" since he never knew his Dad. Apparently, according to the experts this abandonment produces visions of grandure and a strong desire to prove themselves no matter what it takes utilizing lying, cheating, masking, and extreme narcissism as they make their rise to fame. Sound familiar.....Barry Cetera Barrack Hussein Obama, Bill "Blow Job" Clinton, John Edwards, and Lance. One more thing about guns, former Atlanta Braves reliever that did not like his transition to the Yankees, John Rocker, made a very strong statement recently...."Had the Jews in Germany had guns when the SS and Gestopo knocked on their doors to ask them "gently" to come with me it's for your own safety, the holocaust might never have occurred. I get the strong impression that most of you "Give Peace A Chance" Obama low information Marxist anti-gun voters would have been among the first to get into the railcars to "Nazi Summer Camp". "Don't worry ya'll the authorities know what's best for us and I hear they have nice hot showers at Auschwitz!"

January 17, 2013 at 10:07 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Never forget.

170 million people were killed by their own government in the 20th century. Anyone who is not made paranoid over every power grab by their government is a weak minded fool.

A narcissistic, ambitious politician that thinks they can do things for the population better than we can do it for ourselves is a very dangerous animal.

January 17, 2013 at 10:17 a.m.
dao1980 said...

If the Jews had guns when the Gestapo came a calling... the Gestapo would have brought grenade launchers.

You can play the one-up game all day, but in the end, whichever entity owns the weapons manufacturing apparatus will always win.

Your clip can hold ten billion rounds, but if your "gubment" wants you dead, they'll bring more than you've got when they come for you.

Any savvy survivalist will factor that reality in to their "end time" strategy if they expect to have the slightest chance of weathering the storm.

January 17, 2013 at 10:20 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

dao1980 said... "If the Jews had guns when the Gestapo came a calling... the Gestapo would have brought grenade launchers."

This is the current state of America. Some citizens feel helpless to resist the will of their own government. Remember to laugh the next time you hear a politician talk about the will of the governed. I feel like I am walking amongst a herd of sheep!

January 17, 2013 at 10:43 a.m.
dao1980 said...

BRP, did you quit reading after that line??

You should have made it down to: "Any savvy survivalist will factor that reality in to their "end time" strategy if they expect to have the slightest chance of weathering the storm."

Make no misconception, if anyone weathers the storm, it will be I.

Only a fool chooses the unprofitable fight who's place and time is dictated by the opposition, and who's prizes value is overestimated.

January 17, 2013 at 10:56 a.m.
dao1980 said...

It's really tough to have a decent discussion on this site when the dern thing doesn't even work...

I wonder how many posters get tired of trying to post before going elsewhere.

January 17, 2013 at 11:08 a.m.
patriot1 said...

There are 1.4 million active military in the US forces today. No one really know how many guns there are in the hands of private individuals, estimates range from 200 to 300 million. I would think the later would be a formidable force once they had a cause around which to rally and organize. There in lies the determent.

January 17, 2013 at 11:14 a.m.
alprova said...

Good luck with that...

One bomb and any organized effort to take on the Gov't would be over.

January 17, 2013 at 11:18 a.m.
dao1980 said...

patriot1, True, but how many grenade launchers, missiles, helicopters, tanks, and jets are in civilian possession?

If you wan't to defeat the "gubment" that you think is after you, you've got to do it with votes... obviously.

If you are (understandably) so enraged at the loss of personal freedoms, you need to go after the patriot act and a plethora of other minuscule laws that remove such tiny choices that we never even realize we've lost.

How many bullets your clip will hold is just another stupid mind numbing, people dividing, distraction tactic played out by those who occupy the stage.

January 17, 2013 at 11:21 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

conservative said... "Great article by Ann Coulter:"

http://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2013/01/16/guns-dont-kill-people-the-mentally-ill-do-n1491044?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl

Yes, it is a great article. The rest of the story would be that a big part of why the ACLU campaigns for the rights of the mentally ill is probably because of past abuses by, who? You guessed it... government!

January 17, 2013 at 11:22 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

alprova said... "Good luck with that...One bomb and any organized effort to take on the Gov't would be over."

alprova, Head Forum Lamb. Unfortunately for all of us, he has lots of company.

January 17, 2013 at 11:24 a.m.
dao1980 said...

It's ok nooga, the adults will hush up in a minute and quit with all of this confusing conversation.

January 17, 2013 at 11:26 a.m.
dao1980 said...

BRP / P1, I can't really convey in this forum how much I really do appreciate and respect the need for your points of view, and the energy that comes with them to stand our ground in dealing with a corrupt and disrespectful governance.

I'm just also really interested what is required for the actual success of "the people" in owning victory in the hypothetical situations that these issues prompt us to ponder.

January 17, 2013 at 11:31 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

dao1980 said... "If you wan't to defeat the "gubment" that you think is after you, you've got to do it with votes... obviously."

It takes quite a bit more than votes. You have to have a voice within the parties. You have to be a part of the process of selecting the candidates that are put before the general public for the vote. By the time you go to the ballot box all of the important stuff has already been done and decided.

Did you know, that the Hamilton County Republican party has selected its slate of candidates for County party offices and that they are having a convention this month? Do you know who the candidates for county office are? Do you know that they are planning to elect delegates and vote for the county officers on the same day, with little to no time to review the qualifications of the candidates? This is a microcosm of how politics work in this country today. I am trying to figure out how it is different than the voting process in the old Soviet Union.

This is important because the entire political machine is filled from these county elections. Who cares? Who gets involved?

January 17, 2013 at 11:36 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

dao1980 said... "It's really tough to have a decent discussion on this site when the dern thing doesn't even work..."

How true. The TFP needs some serious IT help.

January 17, 2013 at 11:36 a.m.
patriot1 said...

careful nooga.... don't trye getting back on topic, I mentioned that to alpo(registered republican) and I thought he was going to pull out his AR-15.

January 17, 2013 at 11:46 a.m.
dao1980 said...

You are absolutely right BRP. The more of us that are involved with these processes on all levels, the less likely it is that any of these hypothetical story lines will ever play out.

Your observation: "It takes quite a bit more than votes. You have to have a voice within the parties. You have to be a part of the process of selecting the candidates that are put before the general public for the vote. By the time you go to the ballot box all of the important stuff has already been done and decided."

That needs to be read and understood by every "water barrel conspiracy theorist" across the country.

January 17, 2013 at 11:50 a.m.
dao1980 said...

But P1, nooga didn't offer anything or try to get back on his preferred topic, he just whined about ours.

January 17, 2013 at 11:52 a.m.
dao1980 said...

BRP said: "How true. The TFP needs some serious IT help."

Haha, I think the city of Chatt knows a good website firm the TFP could try out.. I hear they're really affordable too!

January 17, 2013 at 11:55 a.m.
raygunz said...

dao1980 said...

BRP said: "How true. The TFP needs some serious IT help."

"Haha, I think the city of Chatt knows a good website firm the TFP could try out.. I hear they're really affordable too!"

They could also check with the Ham.Co.Sheriff's Dept.

January 17, 2013 at 12:14 p.m.
Maximus said...

Vermont Senator Patrick Leahy during Elana Kagan's Supreme Court Appointment Hearing's...."What is your legal position on the 2nd. Ammendment?" (Leahy asked this question because believe it or not there are a LOT of gun owners in the Socialist Republic Of Vermont)....Kagan's answer...."The 2nd. Ammendment is settled law." We will see how Elana "rules" when some of Barry's 23 executive actions/orders crawl their way through Congress and the Supreme Court. Might piggie Elana "Butch" Kagan be suffering from visions of grandeur also? We already know how Clinton appointee Ruth Bader Ginsberg former Chief Council for the ACLU will rule.

January 17, 2013 at 12:20 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Apparently we have to wonder how Roberts will rule also. I guess he thinks that not stepping on the toes of the Legislative and Executive branches is more important than standing for the Constitution.

January 17, 2013 at 12:34 p.m.
raygunz said...

Anyone even read the pres' 23 exec orders? Please point out which one(s) would necessitate Congressional or Supreme Court review or action.

January 17, 2013 at 12:45 p.m.
Easy123 said...

The assault weapons ban is Constitutional.

Reagan supported an assault weapons ban. W. Bush did too. Your heroes are turning against you.

January 17, 2013 at 12:46 p.m.
conservative said...

Great article by Ann Coulter:

"Guns Don't Kill People, the Mentally Ill Do"

Loughner continued-

"On her first day at school, student Lynda Sorensen emailed her friends about Loughner: “We do have one student in the class who was disruptive today, I’m not certain yet if he was on drugs (as one person surmised) or disturbed. He scares me a bit. The teacher tried to throw him out and he refused to go, so I talked to the teacher afterward. Hopefully he will be out of class very soon, and not come back with an automatic weapon.”"

"The last of several emails Sorensen sent about Loughner said: “We have a mentally unstable person in the class that scares the living cr** out of me. He is one of those whose picture you see on the news, after he has come into class with an automatic weapon. Everyone interviewed would say, Yeah, he was in my math class and he was really weird.""

"That was the summer before Loughner killed six people at the Tucson shopping mall, including a federal judge and a 9 year-old girl, and critically wounded Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, among others."

"Loughner also had run-ins with the law, including one charge for possessing drug paraphernalia — a lethal combination with mental illness. He was eventually asked to leave college on mental health grounds, released on the public without warning."

January 17, 2013 at 12:50 p.m.
patriot1 said...

Please define assault weapon.....what does the "A" in AR-15 stand for?

January 17, 2013 at 12:50 p.m.
Easy123 said...

"Guns Don't Kill People, the Mentally Ill Do"

Do they kill people with their bare hands? Or knives? What weapon do mentally ill people use to kill other people?

January 17, 2013 at 12:55 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

raygunz said... "Anyone even read the pres' 23 exec orders? Please point out which one(s) would necessitate Congressional or Supreme Court review or action."

Do you have a link to that? I checked the news this morning and found several versions of what seemed to be the same article, none of which actually listed all 23.

January 17, 2013 at 12:55 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Easy123 said... "Do they kill people with their bare hands? Or knives? What weapon do mentally ill people use to kill other people?"

You are killing me with your stupid comments.

January 17, 2013 at 1:12 p.m.
Rebus said...

The 23 EA's don't agitate me much.

January 17, 2013 at 1:12 p.m.
jesse said...

I think the AR stands for "Armalite" the original mfg.and designer of the rifle!!

BTW: some interesting stats. on assault rifle ownership in U.S.A.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2012/12/20/assault_rifle_stats_how_many_assault_rifles_are_there_in_america.html

January 17, 2013 at 1:19 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Rebus said... "The 23 EA's don't agitate me much."

OK, Do YOU have a good reference for us to look at?

January 17, 2013 at 1:19 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Thanks jesse. That is helpful, but I see it is a cliffs note version from the Whitehouse. I see all kinds of things that could be problematic.

Does anyone know where you can read the actual executive orders?

January 17, 2013 at 1:40 p.m.
Rebus said...

nooga: Some people simply like to collect guns....while I agree with you on the AR-15, why should those that own them have to justify it to you or me? Being mindful of the 2nd amendment is not jumping on the NRA bandwagon. Lighten up.

January 17, 2013 at 2:06 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

"There are 1.4 million active military in the US forces today. No one really know how many guns there are in the hands of private individuals, estimates range from 200 to 300 million. I would think the later would be a formidable force once they had a cause around which to rally and organize. There in lies the determent." - patriot1

This is an excellent example of the lack of critical thinking skills in the conservative mindset. Of those 200 - 300 million people who have guns, there would still be much division as far as ideology and politics are concerned. Many liberals as well as conservatives have guns. There would not be a unity of purpose among gun owners; there would still be a lot of division. Just because one group thinks that maybe the time has come to retaliate against the government with armed resistance, that doesn't mean every gun owner would follow suit.

You simple-minded dunces envision a scenario where there is going to be a clear-cut showdown between "gubmint" and the citizens, but it will never play out in such a straightforward fashion. If it did, to think that your arsenal of semi-automatic and automatic weapons would be sufficient to even make a dent in what the full power of the military could do to you is laughable. You are complete fools to even entertain the notion that your guns are keeping you safe from a "gubmint" takeover. But go ahead and play Rambo in the woods and live in your la-la land that your guns are making you safe. Idiots, every one of you.

January 17, 2013 at 2:08 p.m.
nurseforjustice said...

Rebus, the thing that bothers me about the 23 EO's is the cost of each one of them. I bet it will cost in the millions to implement these orders and then the millions again to continue to operate the departments. Our government is not "Daddy Warbucks" with unlimited funds. You know where they will get the money to fund them, from us. Typical.

January 17, 2013 at 2:20 p.m.
jesse said...

This is what goes down when the populace decides to get in a shootin war w/the Gubmint!

January 17, 2013 at 2:24 p.m.
patriot1 said...

This "simple minded dunce" is not envisioning any time of scenario of a showdown between gubmint(sic) and its citizens. I simply stated that millions of guns in the hands of private citizens is a determent in the same way hand gun carry permits are to criminals. If a criminal is entertaining the idea of mischief they don't know who and how many might be armed unless of course they happen to be in one of those "gun free zones" liberals dream about.

January 17, 2013 at 2:53 p.m.
Rebus said...

nurseforjustice: Agree. Elections matter. It's mostly for show.

January 17, 2013 at 2:56 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

I own a gun and I feel better for having it. But I keep at home, in a safe place, to be used only in the event that I am broken into and feel that my life is in jeopardy. I don't sit around daydreaming about what sort of fire-power I might need in the event of a massive break-in by a gang of thugs or marauders, and I certainly don't entertain silly delusions of a government takeover. If our society reaches the point of a complete breakdown, an arsenal of semi-automatics and automatics would only go so far anyway. You people who try to outthink your futuristic, make-believe enemies and arm yourselves to the teeth so that you can out-gun them are wasting your time in ridiculous delusions. There is a word for what you are: p-a-r-a-n-o-i-d. You are so busy imagining some lawless, dystopian society where you fight off the bad guys with your AR15s or AK47s that you can't live sanely in the real world.

Furthermore, while I'm glad to have a gun at home, I do not want to live in a society where I would have to take my gun everywhere I go in order to feel protected. I have lived 62 years in America, not having to give a second thought to packing heat when I went shopping or out to the movies or to eat or to school or a football game. I even hitch-hiked all over this county without feeling the need to carry a gun. That is what I call true peace and true freedom...where gun-free zones are the norm, not the exception. But you effin' gun freaks want everybody to pack heat and you want to turn every nook and cranny of this country into a gun-carry zone. I think you're perverted, sick, twisted, delusional, and certifiably n-u-t-s.

January 17, 2013 at 3:29 p.m.
alprova said...

BRP wrote: "Does anyone know where you can read the actual executive orders?"

THe link to what CNN posted is all you're going to find for the moment. They will all be posted in detail at the following link probably within a week;

http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders

January 17, 2013 at 3:41 p.m.
raygunz said...

we wanted to believe Lance Armstrong was as pure as the driven snow as he and his yellow jersey crossed every finish line miles ahead of the nearest competitor. We wanted to believe his claims of innocence when accused of having doped his way to fame and fortune.

        And somewhere there's someone who still believes Tim Tebow is a virginal testament to abstinence and self-restraint.

         Yep.  And there's a Santa Clause, and a tooth fairy, and an Easter Bunny, and if you squint really hard at that crucifix on the wall behind the priest at Mass you'll see Jesus winking at you...

          Toss another check in the collection plate and feel good about things.http://www.squatlo-rant.blogspot.ca/

Sorry,copy &paste results on TFP don't work well sometimes. Whatever,you can click the link,read it all for yourselves.

January 17, 2013 at 4:13 p.m.
Rebus said...

rickyroo: I'm glad you got that off your chest. Question is, who are you talking about? Most everyone I know owns a gun or two and not one of them fits the bill as you described.

January 17, 2013 at 4:24 p.m.
jesse said...

Roo ain't talkinin about anyone in paticular, he just likes to call everyone perverted,sick,twisted,delusional and nuts,except alprova,dude,easy and hisownself!

January 17, 2013 at 4:51 p.m.
patriot1 said...

I think you're holding something back rickyroo....why don't you just go ahead and say what you think!

January 17, 2013 at 5:32 p.m.
conservative said...

This exchange I had with mountailaurel says much about the difficulty of having a rational conversation with such like minded Liberals:

mountainlaurel said...

Conservative said: "Guns Don't Kill People, the Mentally Ill Do."

If guns don’t kill people, why are loaded guns banned at these gun shows? . . . Mentally ill persons aren’t banned from these gun shows. . . Convicted criminals aren’t banned . . . only loaded guns are banned at these gun shows.

January 17, 2013 at 4:05 p.m.

Wow!! I am saving that one, destined to be a classic.

I, Conservative didn't say "Guns Don't Kill People, the Mentally Ill Do."

That was the caption of the article I cited by Ann Coulter.

Guns only kill when the trigger is pulled by a human being. I have never said and it has never been recorded that a gun acting alone killed a human being. Never. I have guns in my home, not once has one fired by itself nor has anyone ever been killed in my home or anyone else's home by a gun firing by itself.

Guns do not have minds!! Guns do not have a will!! Guns do not have evil intent!!

You poor Liberal, not only have you no knowledge about guns but you have no common sense as well to put it mildly, when you challenge the fact that a gun by itself can/does not kill.

Now, to your gross ignorance about loaded guns at gun shows. Loaded guns are/should be baned at gun shows because people handle the guns they might purchase. People pick up/handle guns at gun shows. They look down the barrel (that shaft with the sight on the end) while their finger is on the trigger. Can you see why it might not be a good idea to have that gun loaded? People pull the trigger of a gun they might purchase, can you think of a reason why that gun should not be loaded?

Please, please, never own or handle a gun mountainlaurel, you are a danger to yourself and anyone you come in contact with.

January 17, 2013 at 5:49 p.m.
Maximus said...

Rickaroo....You have hitch hiked across America? If so, very sad and very gross. Explains a LOT though. Gun free zones are simply shooting galleries for criminals and the criminally insane that fantasize and probably communicate on the web with other wacos about becoming the next number one school shooter. Every school in the U.S. needs a well trained armed guard, period. Thank goodness my kids attend private schools where they have armed resource officers. As for a ban on assault weapons, fine with me since I already own an AR-15 and have numerous "double stack" 14 round mags for my glocks and other hand guns in my collection. I always wanted to add a vintage WWII era Thompson Sub Machine Gun to my collection. Dang it!

January 17, 2013 at 6:26 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Maximus said... " Apparently, according to the experts this abandonment produces visions of grandure and a strong desire to prove themselves no matter what it takes utilizing lying, cheating, masking, and extreme narcissism... ...Sound familiar(?)"

God, does it ever, maximus. It's YOU! LOL

Somebody call Vanderbilt and tell them how to spell grandeur.

January 17, 2013 at 6:28 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

my kids attend private schools where they have armed resource officers.

I worked 30 years in private schools that did not have armed resource officers, What is your point, exactly?

January 17, 2013 at 6:57 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Oh, geez. It's after dark and tu the vampire has hit the internets. Time to sign off. I have no desire to see the poo being flung all over this site.

January 17, 2013 at 7:45 p.m.
dude_abides said...

So, apparently, the Te'o Party has a loving relationship with the American voter!

January 17, 2013 at 8 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Self-awareness from tu_quoqueef:

“Narcissists have such an elevated sense of self-worth that they value themselves as inherently better than others. Yet, they have a fragile self-esteem and cannot handle criticism, and will often try to compensate for this inner fragility by belittling or disparaging others in an attempt to validate their own self-worth. It is this sadistic tendency that is characteristic of narcissism as opposed to other psychological conditions affecting level of self-worth.”

  • Mayo Clinic
January 18, 2013 at 3:53 a.m.
fairmon said...

Grocery shopping in Venezuela is rarely an easy task, with consumers often forced to deal with long lines and sporadic shortages at their local markets. But the increased difficulty in finding basic consumer goods in recent weeks is raising concerns about the viability of Mr. Chavez's socialist economic policies.

But, they are equally impoverished except an elite few.

January 18, 2013 at 6:29 a.m.
fairmon said...

What is Lance Armstrong's opinion regarding the gun issue? It does appear a lot of people look to those in the spot light and adopt their opinion as their own. Being a good actor, athlete, singer etc. doesn't equate to intelligence and a special insight on issues but they are on talk shows in ads etc. spouting off on a variety of issues.

It is correct to assume that state and local authorities are not expected or obligated to enforce federal laws? They are prevented from enforcing federal immigration laws so it would seem the same would apply to laws regarding guns. Therefore, the cost to enforce and support the executive orders or any legislation to control guns, protect against them and enforce the new federal laws would result in more federal spending and taxes. Why would the executive orders or any laws passed not include taxes on guns and ammunition sufficient to cover any and all cost?

January 18, 2013 at 6:51 a.m.
jesse said...

It seem strange to me that Tu can see those qualities in easy and yet fail to see those same qualities in herself!

In denial?

January 18, 2013 at 8:44 a.m.
Rebus said...

jesse: Yeah, but Easy's are flashing in neon.

January 18, 2013 at 9:36 a.m.
conservative said...

I looked at the NRA ad a few times and I believe I have accurately recorded these words from the ad:

"when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school"

Armed guards in the form of the Secret Service do in fact guard Owebama's children. That indeed is the truth. The ad just makes the point that "his kids are protected by armed guards at their school" and other schools should also have armed guards to protect America's other children.

This is in fact the case in many of the bigger cities where Liberals dominate the population.

January 18, 2013 at 10:30 a.m.
Rebus said...

The Emperor's kids no doubt have secret service protection at school. The question is, does the school also provide armed protection.

January 18, 2013 at 10:39 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

No it does not, but the NRA ad wants everyone to think so and that is why the Obama's chose the school. The school does not provide that service. Obama's children, like the children and grandchildren of every sitting president, are protected by the Secret Service. The ad intends to mislead by promoting outrage, calling Obama "elite" and "choosing a school with armed guards". Obama's daughters would have secret service if they were in a one-room schoolhouse in rural Idaho.

January 18, 2013 at 11:21 a.m.
Rebus said...

That answers it, thanks

January 18, 2013 at 11:27 a.m.
conservative said...

No, you are wrong. You inferred that because you want guns either outlawed or reduced to a single shot.

The NRA got the first shot in and hit a bull's eye with this ad which exposed Owebama's opposition and hypocrisy to armed guards at schools.

The NRA ad is accurate, you and other like minded Liberals now have to come up with your red herring.

There will be more armed guards in schools and Owebama will be forced to accept the proposal of the NRA. Case closed.

January 18, 2013 at 11:40 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

No, conservative, you are wrong, and by sticking to your wrong statements you are a liar.

Color me surprised.

January 18, 2013 at 11:53 a.m.
Rebus said...

Who is that addressed to, con?

January 18, 2013 at 11:54 a.m.
Rebus said...

Lance. Manti. Petraeus...Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio? A nation turns its lonely eyes to you...

January 18, 2013 at 11:55 a.m.
conservative said...

Rebus,

Ike, who else?

January 18, 2013 at 12:05 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

"Question is, who are you talking about? Most everyone I know owns a gun or two and not one of them fits the bill as you described." - rebus

The reason you don't know who I'm talking about is because your head is so far up your a-hole that you can't see in front of your face anyway. There have been plenty of commenters here, as well as in the news throughout the country, who constantly talk about feeling the need to protect themselves against a possible government take-over, and who feel they need to have fire-power massive enough to be able to handle any situation. And the NRA and most of the lunatics who support it are trying to make it legal to carry guns everywhere we go. They want to do away with gun-free zones entirely and have everybody packing heat. Their only solution to our gun-violence problem is more and more guns in the hands of more and more people. If you're not aware of the people I'm talking about then pull your head out and open your eyes and ears.

January 18, 2013 at 2:30 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

"Roo ain't talkinin about anyone in paticular, he just likes to call everyone perverted,sick,twisted,delusional and nuts,except alprova,dude,easy and hisownself!" - jesse

At least I manage to use a variety of epithets and adjectives. You are just as opinionated as I am or as anybody else on here, but you seem to be extremely limited in your vocabulary. Everyone who disagrees with you is just an "idjit" in your book.

January 18, 2013 at 2:41 p.m.
Easy123 said...

"Yeah, but Easy's are flashing in neon."

LMFAO!

January 18, 2013 at 3:08 p.m.
Rebus said...

Sooooo, no sense in being civil to rickyroo.

January 18, 2013 at 3:12 p.m.
Rebus said...

Seems that Rickroo is Easy123. With liver spots.

January 18, 2013 at 3:13 p.m.
jesse said...

Well roo in comparison to perverted.moron,a''hole ,dkhead and such "idjit "seems rather mild to me and i usually use it pertaining to behavior rather than point of view!

January 18, 2013 at 3:41 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Pot meet kettle, Mr. Liver Spots.

January 18, 2013 at 3:42 p.m.
dao1980 said...

Can I get in on this?.. I just wanted to say idjit... aaahh, there... that felt good.

Errbody have a good weekend!!!

January 18, 2013 at 3:44 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

Rebus, I give you the last word. Unlike you, I have better things to do than to stay glued to this forum all day long, engaging in petty sniping. I have had my say and I'm content with that. I will be back another day to contribute my two cents' worth, but for now...enough.

January 18, 2013 at 3:46 p.m.
Rebus said...

Fair enough, Roo. No glue here, btwl

January 18, 2013 at 4:16 p.m.
limric said...

I read about this today and just can’t let it go.

You know the House Republi-cons are holding a retreat in Williamsburg. Right?

One seminar covers, is called, and no I'm NOT kidding, ‘Successful Communications with Minorities (Black People) and Women’. Guess where this takes place?? Ha – wait for it! Put your drink down. Cause if you don’t, you’ll laugh so hard it’ll come out your nose. It takes place at a The Burwell Plantation. Yep, it’s a Former Slave Plantation.

The seminar schedule:

11:30 The Proper Way to Ask For a Sandwich.

11:55 The Importance of Minorities to the Republican Party.

12:00 Back on the Bus to Washington.

*[They were originally going to go to a whore house to learn how to talk to women, but felt people might misunderstand.

Breakout Sessions include:

"Can I touch your nappy hair? Dos and don’ts"

"There is rape, then there is rape-rape: how to distinguish (sponsored by Phi Kappa Beta)"

"Fairness in the workplace -Getting women home from the office in time to make dinner"

"How to strike up casual conversation with urban types without using the ‘N’ word.”

"Having black friends: How to elevate the relationship between you and your servants to 'friendship' for media purposes"

"Don't eff the nanny, unless she's drunk"

"Using cash when visiting urban T-girls"

They're also holding offsite outreach meetings to Native Americans at Wounded Knee, Asians in Sacramento at the California State Railroad Museum, gay people in Laramie at the Cracker's Barrel, and Latinos in San Antonio at the Alamo.]*

*Thanks Cord

Sometimes it's really hard to write satire about the GOP. They beat you to all the punch-lines.

Eh, but fair's fair. I understand Obama is holding his ‘Assault Rifle Confiscation’ ceremony at the Appomattox Courthouse this April.

January 18, 2013 at 4:51 p.m.
Rebus said...

Wow. Limric could be a writer for the DNC. Hell, maybe he is. Straight outta da playbook. Politics of division. Be proud Comrade Limric.

January 18, 2013 at 5:16 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Rebus_Jack_Troll_Dennis,

You mean RNC. Straight out of real life. Politics of falsehoods, lies, and insanity. Be proud, oblivious Rebus.

Falsehoods and lies.

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/08/muslim-prayer-service-at-the-dnc/

Insanity.

January 18, 2013 at 5:20 p.m.
Rebus said...

thanks for spreading my name, IDGIT. Such a simple word. And fun too.

January 18, 2013 at 5:26 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Rebus_Jack_Dennis_Troll,

Everyone here knows who you are, dumbass. In fact, you just verified it.

January 18, 2013 at 5:33 p.m.
jesse said...

Rebus! I looked up this word in the dict. and guess who's pix was there!

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/brat

January 18, 2013 at 6:07 p.m.
Easy123 said...

jesse,

Tell us about the imaginary picture you saw!

Look up "curmudgeon" and tell me what imaginary picture you see.

January 18, 2013 at 6:08 p.m.
MickeyRat said...

tu_quoque said..."Maybe all red states should do this:

Chase wrote that, "Progressives are the single biggest threat the state is facing today." I think the world heard such rhetoric before.

"One way is to pass measures that will restrict the 'freedoms' that they think they will find here. Another is to shine the bright light of publicity on whom they are and why they are coming."

Reiterated, "Maybe all red states should do this

A yellow badge or star maybe?

January 18, 2013 at 6:25 p.m.
Rebus said...

jesse: That was just too Easy!

January 18, 2013 at 7:49 p.m.
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