published Tuesday, June 25th, 2013

The Path

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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nucanuck said...

Net illegal immigration is down to zero. Hundreds of thousands have returned to their countries of origin. Of the 11.5 million that remain, most long-term residents, do we really want to force them out rather than create a path for legal status? Many of their children were born and educated here. Expelling them now would be both bad for our economy and an unconscionable inhumane act to dislocate families after years, often decades, as part of our communities. We are bigger than that, at least we used to be.

June 25, 2013 at 1:45 a.m.
alprova said...

Fences or walls are not going to stop illegal immigration.

What's that old saying? Build a 20 foot high fence and I'll show you a 21 foot ladder.

Illegal immigration is the result of decades of wage disparity and living conditions here in The United States along with Canada, and that of Mexico and South America.

Thee are no easy answers to the illegal immigration issue, but the House, and more directly, the Republicans, are going to suffer the consequences next year if they don't get on board with reform efforts.

June 25, 2013 at 1:51 a.m.
nucanuck said...

Mexico is currently experiencing some of the strongest economic growth in the world. Job creation there is on the rise. In addition to that, birth rates have fallen. Mexico may well catch up with a declining US over the next few decades. Mexico now has an emerging middle class.

Fences were never a part of a real solution to illegal immigration.

June 25, 2013 at 2:22 a.m.
Maximus said...

How about impeaching Obama and shutting down the federal government employees union first before allowing more future non-tax paying, welfare pigs to enter our country? The Treasury Department Employees Union demanding that over $70 million tax payer dollars (borrowed from athiest Communist China) be paid in bonuses to IRS thugs is an outrage! NO....no so-called immigration reform until we FIX our own dysfunctional government. Call your Congressman TODAY!

June 25, 2013 at 6:42 a.m.
Maximus said...

Mexico an emerging middle class....yes if you are a light skinned Mexican and member of the Spanish Elitist class. Otherwise....don't drink the water and carry a gun. The rule of law in Mexico? Not so much amigo! And Alprova...illegal immigration caused by wage disparity and living conditions here in the U.S. and Canada (Canada...really?) and that lf Mexico and South America??? Ok, I get it big Al, as usual, it's our fault. The evil U.S. of A. caused the centuries of corruption and upheaval in Mehico and South Central....how about dictators, drug lords, and that philosophy you love so much Socialism?

June 25, 2013 at 6:52 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

nucanuck says "Mexico is currently experiencing some of the strongest economic growth in the world. Job creation there is on the rise. In addition to that, birth rates have fallen. Mexico may well catch up with a declining US over the next few decades. Mexico now has an emerging middle class" So what is your point?

June 25, 2013 at 8:23 a.m.
tifosi said...

The solution all along was job creation. That is why folks were crossing over. They just wanted to take care of their families. Just like anyone else here. As long as there were "haves and have nots" illegal immigration was going to occur.

June 25, 2013 at 8:46 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

tifosi: and will continue to occur.

June 25, 2013 at 9:02 a.m.
joepulitzer said...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/24/immigration-proposal-advances-in-key-senate-test-vote/

11 million more votes for the liberal Democrats. America, the end is near.

June 25, 2013 at 9:16 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Joe: Probably only 5.5 million. Half were voting anyways.

June 25, 2013 at 9:22 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

All done with massive amounts of money confiscated from tax payers or borrowed. We would be better off if we just sent Congress home for the rest of the year, or to the end of 2014.

June 25, 2013 at 9:42 a.m.
MiddleMan said...

Sometimes I seriously wonder if Clay Bennett has a mental deficiency. Forcing people to take the legally mandated path to citizenship, as opposed to sneaking in illegally, is not a bad thing.

June 25, 2013 at 9:45 a.m.

We already have a path to citizenship that law-abiding immigrants already use. So, why can some use it effectively and others cannot?

Is this the same discussion as some people chose to work, cloth, house, and feed themselves while others chose not?

June 25, 2013 at 9:49 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

In major ruling SCOTUS decides certain people no longer responsible for sins of their graet-great-great-great-great-grandparents.

June 25, 2013 at 10:47 a.m.
miraweb said...

Though with folks like our Paula Deen and Maxi, we can be quite sure this generation has plenty of sins on its own.

June 25, 2013 at 11:41 a.m.
chet123 said...

PLAINTRUTH.....SEE YOU CONSTANTLY CHANGING YOUR NAMES......HA HA HA.....AND EVEN YOUR AVATAR!!!!!

DO YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE??????

WHY TRY TO BE EVASIVE.....BE STRAIGHTFORWARD!!!!!!

June 25, 2013 at 11:47 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Mira: You're quite the cynic, no?

June 25, 2013 at 12:11 p.m.
Maximus said...

Miraweb not sure what you mean but you are confirming that liberals can be some of the vilest, meanest, nasty, people on earth. Having anger for Miss Paula Deen for what she said under extreme duress some 30 years ago is not only wrong, it is just plain stupid! As for Mexico, I go there on business once a month and I know what I am talking about regarding their light skinned corrupt ruling class. Mexico is a corrupt pit of poverty and always will be. They have what Obama wants......an elite ruling class of haves, a non-existent middle class, and a very, very large poor, welfare dependent under class of have nots. The have nots are flooding into the good ole USA. Fun!

June 25, 2013 at 12:17 p.m.

“Both and” not “either or.”

Citizenship is important. Rule of law is important. Immigration is important. Borders are important. Compassion is important. Money does not grow on trees. Gang of eight is right. Bennett is wrong.

June 25, 2013 at 12:32 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

In a statement, President Obama called today's Supreme Court decision on the Voting Rights Act a "setback." You got no gripe coming, Barry. You already got a freebie a few months ago.

June 25, 2013 at 12:49 p.m.
degage said...

Many liberals on this forum give illegals a pass on everything including the group milking the taxpayers of millions. I'm talking about the scam of 23,974 tax refunds, totaling more than 46 million dollars, going to the same address in Atlanta, of which over 8000 checks went to the same bank account. that was only one of 4 addresses in Atlanta. Then there is the ones in SC and NC. Of course we have no Idea what country these people come from but we do know they were unauthorized workers according to Huffington Post. Illegal is illegal and if you go to their countries you would end up in jail for what these people are doing in this country. We have wonderful immigrants in this country that came the proper way and have made wonderful lives for themselves, and make great neighbors and co workers.

June 25, 2013 at 2:50 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Degage is clearly a hater, bigot, mouthbreathing, nazi. Probably has a bad back, too.

June 25, 2013 at 2:54 p.m.
tifosi said...

degage said: We have wonderful immigrants in this country that came the proper way and have made wonderful lives for themselves, and make great neighbors and co workers.

You referring to all those Italians that came over WithOut Papers (WOP)?

June 25, 2013 at 3:15 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

tifosi said...

You referring to all those Italians that came over WithOut Papers (WOP)?


Oh the irony! Guappi "working" for the Folk as a recent historical trend continues.

June 25, 2013 at 6:20 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

JonRoss said...

So if I show up in the front yard of Bennett and park my ass there and refuse to leave then Bennett will have to let me move into his house with him and his family ? Maybe that is what it is going to take to help these Progressive thugs understand the damage they are doing.


No ... He will call in governmental apparatchiks to force his neighbors to accept the responsibility of taking you in and providing not only your needs but your wishes. At the same time he will call a press conference to issue a press release on how he personal solved the issue.

June 25, 2013 at 6:42 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

chet123 said...

EVASIVE


You using a word like that is outrageously funny on many levels

June 25, 2013 at 6:59 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

^^^wonder how many "names" Chet has? HAHAHAHA

June 25, 2013 at 7:29 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

The immigration bill is obamacare redux. Lawmakers have no clue what's in it. Your gubmint at work.

June 25, 2013 at 7:36 p.m.
rick1 said...

How much does anyone want to bet we will not hear one word from Jessie Jackson or Al Sharpton calling for Winkler's resignation.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/25/democratic-lawmaker-hits-justice-uncle-thomas/

June 25, 2013 at 9:06 p.m.
alprova said...

JonRoss wrote: "So if I show up in the front yard of Bennett and park my ass there and refuse to leave then Bennett will have to let me move into his house with him and his family ?"

I'm quite sure that no illegal immigrant has shown up at your door and has refused to leave, so I fail to see what point you are attempting to offer.

I'm equally sure that if you show up and Mr. Bennett's home and refuse to leave, if demanded to do so, that you will be carted off in handcuffs. But then you know what that is all about, don't you?

"Maybe that is what it is going to take to help these Progressive thugs understand the damage they are doing."

Sir, you have not been "damaged" a bit by the presence of any illegal immigrant who resides in this nation.

You're just a bankrupt moron with an opinion and hate in your heart.

June 25, 2013 at 9:27 p.m.
alprova said...

degage wrote: "We have wonderful immigrants in this country that came the proper way and have made wonderful lives for themselves, and make great neighbors and co workers."

I dare offer that if you were to take a moment or two to speak with someone who came here illegally, you would find out that they too are great neighbors and their objective is to do whatever it takes to support their family.

June 25, 2013 at 9:30 p.m.
alprova said...

rick1 wrote: "How much does anyone want to bet we will not hear one word from Jessie Jackson or Al Sharpton calling for Winkler's resignation."

And why should they? The man is from Minnesota. It's completely plausible that he did not know the term was offensive. He immediately retracted it and apologized.

If Republican legislators move to further invalidate the Voting Rights Act, which I hope they do, there will be a backlash, just as there was last year.

Black people proved that they will wait in line for as long as it takes to be able to cast their votes. White people didn't. According to some theories floating out there, that is one of the very reasons why Barack Obama is the President today.

So let them cut out early voting, reduce the number of polling locations, reduce the number of voting booths...whatever tricks they want to try in order to prevent people determined to vote.

When white folk arrive at a polling location and see the number of blacks standing in line who are determined to cast their votes, those lily white Republican sympathizers will shrug their shoulders and hop back into their cars and hope for the best.

At my polling location last year, they had reduced the number of booths to a third of what was normally in operation in prior elections. Now I am under no illusion that the vote in Georgia was affected at my precinct, as Georgia has gone for the Republican candidate for years.

But I did see person after person see the line that was on average, a two hour wait, and this on an early voting day, who said, "No Way," and they left.

Two of my Republican friends did not cast their votes in last year's election.

So...please, by all means, let the Republican legislators in the affected states roll out whatever they want to attempt to make it harder for people whom they feel will not vote for them, to keep people from the polls.

It will only blow up in their own faces.

June 25, 2013 at 9:51 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

A black President, and a black Atty. General are "deeply disappointed" in the progress of race relations. Hmmm.

June 25, 2013 at 9:53 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Alpo: Winkler has a degree in history, plus a law degree and you say it's plausible that he doesn't know the term "Uncle Tom" is offensive? That's a stretch, bub.

June 25, 2013 at 10:10 p.m.
rick1 said...

Al wrote "And why should they? The man is from Minnesota. It's completely plausible that he did not know the term was offensive. He immediately retracted it and apologized."

Al, Winkler, states on his website that he has an undergraduate history degree from Harvard and a law degree from the University of Minnesota. Winkler seemed to dig the hole deeper in a subsequent tweet, in which he said the racism of the term "Uncle Tom" was disputed and unknown to him.

Al, stop embarrassing yourself by defending this guy when he said the racism of the term "Uncle Tom" was disputed and unknown to him.

June 25, 2013 at 10:16 p.m.
alprova said...

rick1 wrote: "Al, stop embarrassing yourself by defending this guy when he said the racism of the term "Uncle Tom" was disputed and unknown to him."

I laugh every time someone who leans way to the right attempts to play a race card. It always comes off hilarious.

Left leaning Black people would never, ever get upset at the mention of the phrase, "Uncle Tom." Right leaning blacks often do take offense to the phrase, and for good reason.

Clarence Thomas has more than once, forgotten the past when it comes to how black people were treated, and still are in many places around this nation.

You can deny the fact, and I'm sure you will, that there are people, most all of them Republicans, who are out to do whatever they can to stop black people from voting in this nation.

The definition of an "Uncle Tom" is one who betrays their own group by participating in its oppression, whether or not they do so willingly.

I don't think there is any question that Justice Thomas's vote on this issue was done so very willingly and it is very much a betrayal to a group of American citizens that he shares an undeniable link to, and it does involve the return to oppressing those who fall into the group who share that common bond with himself.

It's more effective and succinct for people of that same group to be the ones issuing the charge, but I'll be happy to do so as an outsider.

Clarence Thomas is indeed an Uncle Tom and he apparently is not ashamed of it.

Representative Winkler is a public figure and a United States Congressman. As such, he should always demonstrate a modicum of respect to any and all Supreme Court Justices. So his retraction was the right thing to do.

I am not held to any such standard, so I am free to go on record with my opinion. And that's all it is...my opinion.

June 25, 2013 at 10:46 p.m.
alprova said...

PT Wrote: "Alpo: Winkler has a degree in history, plus a law degree and you say it's plausible that he doesn't know the term "Uncle Tom" is offensive? That's a stretch, bub."

It may well be, because he did use the word "uncle" to precede what he wrote, but not many people in Minnesota are remotely aware of terminology that we folk in the South have been exposed to repeatedly for decades.

The culture is different as night and day. Black people who have never been in the South have no knowledge of many of the offensive words and phrases that we are aware of.

I had a second home in Minnesota until a few years ago and worked in that state many months at a time, for years.

As I stated, he is a U.S. Congressman. His choice of words used to express his opinion was wrong, only due to his position as a public figure and a lawmaker. If he were merely a man and a citizen of the United States, he is entitled to his opinion.

June 25, 2013 at 11:09 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

alprova said...

Clarence Thomas has more than once, forgotten the past when it comes to how black people were treated, and still are in many places around this nation.

(Is Clarence Thomas the official “black” judge that is required to vote that constituencies wishes?)

The definition of an "Uncle Tom" is one who betrays their own group by participating in its oppression, whether or not they do so willingly.

(Can any true and impartial black judge ever be anything other than a “Uncle Tom” since it will be inevitable that he or she would have to, at some time, vote in opposition to black’s wishes and thus in the view of left wingers be perceived as oppression of blacks?)

I don't think there is any question that Justice Thomas's vote on this issue was done so very willingly and it is very much a betrayal to a group of American citizens that he shares an undeniable link to, and it does involve the return to oppressing those who fall into the group who share that common bond with himself.

(Is Thomas's obligation, in his capacity as a judge, to rule impartially or to honor some external non-judicial bond?)

It's more effective and succinct for people of that same group to be the ones issuing the charge, but I'll be happy to do so as an outsider. Clarence Thomas is indeed an Uncle Tom and he apparently is not ashamed of it.

(I’m sure he sees it, coming from people like you, as a validation that he is an independent, fair, and critical thinker and judge)

June 25, 2013 at 11:38 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

alprova said ...

I had a second home in Minnesota until a few years ago and worked in that state many months at a time, for years.


It never ends does it?

June 25, 2013 at 11:42 p.m.
fairmon said...

The new immigration bill is being porked up to appease some few in congress. It is also being modified and regionalized. So what, we will have a new immigration policy that cannot and will not be enforced. The NSA is monitoring phone activity and working to detect potential terrorist with over the top airport security by the homeland security department. But, our borders are as full of holes as Swiss chees for any terrorist willing to take a risk and walk or ride in which is less convenient than by air.

I can't understand the difficulty of identifying and dealing with illegal immigrants if those employing them, granting them license, providing false documents etc. were dealt with as they should be. Do you know anyone that raises hell about illegal immigrants but doesn't hesitate to get their lawn done on the cheap for cash. Those I know that do that are also democrats but not Obama fans, they say they held their nose and voted for him.

June 25, 2013 at 11:51 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

The new immigration bill is a non-workable boondoggle. But it makes lefties feel good.

June 25, 2013 at 11:53 p.m.
MiddleMan said...

Plain Truth said: "^^^wonder how many "names" Chet has? HAHAHAHA"

He has but one name. His grammar skills are so atrocious, they are his own identifier.

June 26, 2013 at 10:03 a.m.
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