published Friday, November 22nd, 2013, updated Nov. 21st, 2113 at 7:31 p.m.

Marion County Football

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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cooljb said...

Sums it up.

November 22, 2013 at 6:50 a.m.
jesse said...

Grown men who should know better acting like idjits!!

November 22, 2013 at 7:45 a.m.
librul said...

I would hope parents were even MORE concerned if these clowns were also teachers.

November 22, 2013 at 8:22 a.m.
ibshame said...

No football rivalry should be worth losing a job over!! One has to wonder why they would think the criminal acts of Vandalism, Breaking and Entering, and Theft would be motivators for their team to win a football game? If anything the only motivation in those acts would be to encourage criminal activity.

November 22, 2013 at 9:59 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

Read the article on high school sports in last month's Atlantic Magazine.

November 22, 2013 at 10:50 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Some serious stupid.

November 22, 2013 at 11:17 a.m.
Maximus said...

Stupid is as stupid does. What a group of idiot coaches. It will be interesting to see how the team rises above the adversity. That is the story.

The real story is with the girls soccer coach at Baylor. As my daughter, a Baylor grad and former soccer player stated.........GROSS! I'm sure most liberals and Obama supporters feel that as pagan's there is absolutely nothing wrong with soliciting prostitution. After all, Senate Majority Leader, Democrat Harry Reid is from a state where male and female prostitution is legal and the state of Nevada collects tax revenue on the bidness. Nice!

November 22, 2013 at 12:13 p.m.
ibshame said...

"Maximus said... Stupid is as stupid does. What a group of idiot coaches. It will be interesting to see how the team rises above the adversity. That is the story.
The real story is with the girls soccer coach at Baylor. As my daughter, a Baylor grad and former soccer player stated.........GROSS! I'm sure most liberals and Obama supporters feel that as pagan's there is absolutely nothing wrong with soliciting prostitution. After all, Senate Majority Leader, Democrat Harry Reid is from a state where male and female prostitution is legal and the state of Nevada collects tax revenue on the bidness. Nice!"

And you should have stopped with your first paragraph but no you had to really showcase your ignorance by connecting what happened at Baylor to Harry Reid and the Democrats because Reid is from Nevada, a state where prostitution is legal. One had nothing to do with the other. That would be like someone saying what happened in Marion County can be attributed to the people that voted for Scott DeJarlais, an adulterer and anti-abortion hypocrite. Nice!

November 22, 2013 at 12:34 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Libshame. You mention hypocrites. Like Sen. Biden? Or SenObama? Or like Minority Leader Reid? Like those?

November 22, 2013 at 12:45 p.m.
ibshame said...

"PlainTruth said... Libshame. You mention hypocrites. Like Sen. Biden? Or SenObama? Or like Minority Leader Reid? Like those?"

No, I was thinking more along the lines of Sen. Alexander, Sen. Corker, Congressman Chuckie, Paul Ryan, Sen. McCain, those are the ones that come to mind. Of course there are other right wing nut jobs but space and time does not permit me to list them all.

As for "Majority Leader Reid" the only problem I have with him is the fact he didn't take the nuclear option far enough yesterday.

November 22, 2013 at 12:55 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Like the SCOTUS, shame? Yeah, let's stack the court. Then we would have a real representative Republic, huh Shame? You poor misguided dolt.

November 22, 2013 at 1:24 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

PT, I'm surprised you aren't talking about losing the filibuster yesterday.

November 22, 2013 at 1:33 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

IQ, Now we know what "Progessive" really means. Harry Reid decides that after 237 years Thomas Jefferson's rules just don't apply. About covers it, IQ.

November 22, 2013 at 1:39 p.m.

Someone said when the majority decides to change the rules, then there are no rules. It was a Democrat who said that. The Republican Senators might as well just not show up for work. You libs are a bunch of jackasses who are only interested in eliminating the opposition. Harry Reid is a sickening turd of a human being, as is Obama. He's probably strutting around the White House beating his chest because of what Reid did. Fools. Somethings aren't worth winning if they destroy this country.

November 22, 2013 at 2:19 p.m.
ibshame said...

"PlainTruth said... Like the SCOTUS, shame? Yeah, let's stack the court. Then we would have a real representative Republic, huh Shame? You poor misguided dolt."

No you and the rest of the teabaggers and nut jobs are just angry because you have been beat once again at your own game. Mitch McConnell laid out the game plan along with the rest of the cowards the night President Obama was inaugurated when they all entered into their pact to stop any of his appointments or legislation by any means. Well, they have pretty much had their own way even after President Obama was elected to a SECOND TERM. They have still tried to nullify the results of BOTH elections. This time Harry Reid grew a spine(short one since he didn't go far enough but at least one) and decided enough was enough. Even Chief Justice John Roberts said they needed to stop holding up those judicial nominations. Once again they have been beat at their own game. It couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of nut jobs and teabaggers.

I have no doubt IF they win the Senate back in 2014 with a slim majority they will take that option even further and of course I don't expect any teabaggers or nut jobs to be concerned then about 237 yeas or Thomas Jefferson's rules.

November 22, 2013 at 2:27 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

I have mixed feelings about the filibuster vote yesterday. Yes, it is a tradition; however, the GOP is abusing the privilege. They filibustered executive nominees 27 times during Obama's first term (four years). This is 7 more times than a executive nominee filibuster was used in the terms of the last ten presidents, combined.

Eisenhower-0 Kennedy-0 LBJ-0 Nixon-0 Ford-0 Carter-2 Reagan-2 Bush Sr.-0 Clinton-9 Bush Jr.-7 Obama's 1st term-27

Besides, it has just become an act of machismo. Rand filibusters for 14 hours and Ted sees him as a presidential political opponent in 2016 so he has to one-up him.

November 22, 2013 at 3:01 p.m.
soakya said...

and how many of those 27 nominees didn't get confirmed?

November 22, 2013 at 3:15 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

libshame is proving he knows nothing about the role of the senate in a Republic. The Senate is NOT the House. It was put in place for a reason. Study up, Libby.

November 22, 2013 at 3:20 p.m.
miraweb said...

It is pretty radical to try out "majority rules" in a democracy, I suppose.

It is the perfect setup for the next round of Debt Ceiling Roullette. If the children in the House try shutting down the government again I would expect the "nuclear option" to be expanded to the Supreme Court fairly quickly. Unfortunately, the Tea Party members aren't quick enough to recognize that things could get even worse if they can't learn to work and play well with others.

Sharing power with the minority in the Senate only works when you are playing with grown-ups. Just one Ted Cruz makes taking those powers away the only sane thing to do.

November 22, 2013 at 3:25 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Mira, you have no idea the damage done by the plan scripted in the White House. No idea. Ted Cruz should get a Medal of Freedom for standing up to the steamroller.

November 22, 2013 at 3:31 p.m.
miraweb said...

The funny thing about the Senate is you do not get much done unless you can find 49 colleagues to vote with you.

Poor Ted is only 48 friends short of having a career in the Senate.

It's a rare gift for a man to have so few friends that now he can't even stop the Senate from doing the work we pay it to do.

Good job, Rafael Eduardo! Well done, sir!

November 22, 2013 at 3:41 p.m.
yddem said...

PT, here are 2 links, the first discussing Thomas Jefferson's decision (as v-p elect in1796) to write rules for the senate, the second the rules he wrote:

http://www.monticello.org/site/research-and-collections/manual-parliamentary-practice

http://www.constitution.org/tj/tj-mpp.htm

I challenge you to show me Jefferson's filibuster rule. Hint: there is no such rule in his rules.

November 22, 2013 at 3:43 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

yddem: Not gonna wade thru tens of thousands of word looking for the Rule. I was quoting your Senator Alexander. Anyways, it's common knowledge that Jefferson was concerned about the "rights" of the minority party. If you believe in a one party system, that's your right. A wet dream for a Statist, I guess. But sure short sighted.

November 22, 2013 at 4:27 p.m.
miraweb said...

Jefferson did not think that the "minority party" had special rights. He strongly believed that "With whichever opinion the body of the nation concurs, that must prevail." and continued that "those of feeble constitutions will wish to see one strong arm able to protect them from the many."

Jefferson was a man who fought for democracy and who risked everything he had to achieve it. While he did have strong feelings about the rights of his fellow countrymen, the perks of "minority political parties" was not something that kept him up at night.

November 22, 2013 at 4:39 p.m.
yddem said...

It wouldn't do you any good to get your feet wet, PT. Jefferson did not write a rule permitting filibusters.

Alexander's comment proves how little he knows about the senate in which he "serves" and about Thomas Jefferson. You could just as well have quoted that well known authority Donald Trump - he's always right, just ask him.

Rule 17 of Jefferson' rules provides in pertinent part: "No one is to speak impertinently or beside the question, superfluously or tediously." I have no doubt that TJ would have found a filibuster tedious, at best.

BTW, 237 years ago, TJ wrote the Declaration of Independence.

November 22, 2013 at 4:41 p.m.
miraweb said...

More from the writings of Thom J.

I am no believer in the amalgamation of parties, nor do I consider it as either desirable or useful for the public; but only that, like religious differences, a difference in politics should never be permitted to enter into social intercourse or to disturb its friendships, its charities or justice. In that form, they are censors of the conduct of each other and useful watchmen for the public.


If we keep together we shall be safe, and when error is so apparent as to become visible to the majority, they will correct it.


Let us restore to social intercourse that harmony and affection without which liberty and even life itself are but dreary things. And let us reflect that having banished from our land that religious intolerance under which mankind so long bled and suffered, we have yet gained little if we countenance a political intolerance as despotic, as wicked, and capable of as bitter and bloody persecutions.

November 22, 2013 at 4:45 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Hey yddem. Don't be such a nit picker. You should be embarrassed by The White House plan. But it does deflect attention from the biggest screw-up in many years.

November 22, 2013 at 4:54 p.m.
yddem said...

PT, no need to call yourself a nit. I was just pointing out the inaccuracies of your comments, some more serious than others.

I have never been a fan of the filibuster - my dislike began in the 1960's when southern senators, led by Strom Thurman, used the filibuster to block civil rights legislation. [TJ had something in common with Strom, but it wasn't unlimited debate.] I do not want either party to use a filibuster to avoid voting on something.

Here is a link to an interesting history of the filibuster. You won't need your waders. Spoiler: the filibuster was a mistake and resulted from a suggestion by then v-p Aaron Burr.

http://www.brookings.edu/research/testimony/2010/04/22-filibuster-binder

November 22, 2013 at 5:08 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Yddem: you're a bit of a pompous ass, no?

November 22, 2013 at 5:21 p.m.
yddem said...

A person with a simple mind, PT, resorts to name calling. If you want to lower yourself to the level of too many others on this forum, knock yourself out.

November 22, 2013 at 5:33 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Yddem, Calling me simple minded is not name calling? Besides, I was just making an observation.

November 22, 2013 at 5:54 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

While the coaches who carried out this juvenile, uncouth, dishonorable plot should be held entirely accountable for their actions, it's only fair to consider the football culture that drives someone to such desperate measures in the first place. Football is a god to many people in these rabid football communities, and winning means more than just a trophy. It also can mean job security for the coach and prestige within the community, not only for the coach, but for his players, the school, and headmaster. High school football coaches do not have nearly the pressures, or the salaries, that college or NFL coaches have, but they have extreme pressures nonetheless in the microcosm of their football universe. It's too bad that these coaches lacked the integrity or the maturity to accept the fact that football, like all sports, is first and foremost a game played for fun; but they were acting out of the same passion and desire to win that drives so many. It was even more than a passion, it was an obsession, and it drove them over the edge. It's sad that some people will resort to such measures, just so they can be thought of as winners. Those who go to any extremes to win, beyond the bounds of honor and conscience, are anything but.

November 22, 2013 at 6:37 p.m.
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