published Tuesday, October 29th, 2013

5-at-10: SEC questions, NFL Power Poll, Sox on the brink

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    Alabama quarterback AJ McCarron (10) looks for a receiver during their NCAA football game against Tennessee in Tuscaloosa, Ala., Saturday, Oct. 26, 2013.
    Photo by Associated Press /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

1) Alabama (8-0 overall, 5-0 SEC)

How great has AJ McCarron been? The Tide are awash in talent to be sure, but the value and improvement of their senior quarterback is staggering. His numbers are off the charts both in a team sense (dude is 34-2 as a starter for crying out loud and on tack to lead his team to their third consecutive SEC title and BCS title shot) and efficiency standpoint (he has a career 65-11 TD-to-inteception ratio). With what could be six more games left in his Alabama career if the Tide when the West, McCarron needs a touch less than 2,200 passing yards to get to 10,000 for his career, and his numbers are tapered considerably since he seldom plays all of the second half and even less frequently needs to throw in the final two quarters. It's really time to start listing AJ among the best quarterbacks in the history of the SEC and college football in general.

Saturday: Off

2) Auburn (7-1, 3-1)

How high is the ceiling for the Tigers? Auburn controls its SEC destiny, but the road is anything but smooth. Road trips to Arkansas and Tennesse will be followed by home games against Georgia and Alabama, but the discussion of ceilings and possibilities compared to the sinking ship that was the USS Chizik this time last year only magnifies the dramatic turnaround engineered by Gus Malzahn and Co. That turnaround is made even more eye-popping considering the only prominent new starter on offense is junior college quarterback Nick Marshall.

Saturday: at Arkansas, 6 (ESPN2)

3) Missouri (7-1, 3-1)

How painful was that double-overtime loss Saturday night against? Off the charts, considering what was at stake and what could have been. And it was made even more painful by Missouri kicker Andrew Baggett missing a potential game-sealing field goal in the fourth quarter and a 24-yard chippie that would have forced a third OT. Ouch.

Saturday: vs. Tennessee, 7 (ESPN)

4) LSU (7-2, 3-2)

Will the Tigers be ready for their trip to T-Town? We hope so because LSU and Alabama are most likely the most talented teams in the country. Yes, FSU is in that discussion, but the Tigers and the Tide are scary talented. The bigger question, though, is whether Zach Mettenberger is ready. Good Mettenberger means LSU can be special; bad Metteneberger means LSU can be ordinary. Ask Ole Miss.

Saturday: Off

5) Texas A&M (6-2, 3-2)

Which is more eye-popping, Johnny Football's off-the-charts to the good football talents or his off-the-charts to the bad obtuseness? Johnny Manziel, the reigning Heisman winner with the big-time nickname and the bigger-time game, has been a treat on Saturdays on the field. Off it, he continues to be one headache after another for the Aggies program. His latest run-in was an admittedly tongue-in-check interview about how he wants to party with Rob Gronkowski, Charlie Sheen and Tiger Woods — three celebrities who have been linked to adult-entertainment stars in recent years. Johnny Football, love the game and hate the mouth. At some point, doesn't this start to scare NFL talent evaluators? Seriously.

Saturday: vs. UTEP, 9 (ESPN)

6) South Carolina (6-2, 4-2)

How gutsy is Connor Shaw? Dude is a flat player. Period. In fact, after coming off the bench and ignoring the pain to rally South Carolina with 17 consecutive fourth-quarter to tie the game in regulation in the Gamecocks' double-overtime win at Missouri, Shaw was named the national player of the year. Also know this — Shaw may not test well at the combine and his 'arm strength' will be questioned, but who would you rather have as a back-up quarterback right now than the gritty, gutty Connor Shaw, who single-handedly saved USC's season late last Saturday night.

Saturday: vs. Mississippi State, 12:21 (WDSI)

7) Georgia (4-3, 3-2)

Will Todd Gurley be 100 percent in the game formerly known as the World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party? You have to believe he will play, and that fact along will offer a Georgia offense that was among the nation's best in September a much-needed jolt of energy. Even if Gurley is at 80 percent, well, 80 percent of Todd Gurley is better than 100 percent of almost everyone else.

Saturday: vs. Florida, 3:30 (CBS)

8) Ole Miss (5-3, 2-3)

Will the Rebels be New Year's Day bowling? It sure looks that way, considering Ole Miss's toughest test left is a home date against Missouri. Ole Miss likely will be favored in its remaining four games — all of which are in the state of Mississippi — and a 9-3 finish could land the Rebels a holiday in Florida.

Saturday: Off

9) Florida (4-3, 3-2)

Is Will Muschamp on the hot seat? No, according to Jeremy Foley, the Florida AD who was forced to answer that very questions this week. Muschamp did win 11 games last year and had the best regular-season resume of any team in the country. Still, the fact that the AD has to answer hot-seat questions is really more 'yes' than anything the AD says.

Saturday: vs. Georgia, 3:30 (CBS)

10) Tennessee (4-4, 1-3)

Has Tennessee overachieved? That's a tough one to answer coming off a landslide loss at Alabama — but suffering landslide losses in Tuscaloosa are as common lately on SEC Saturdays as Golden Flakes, Jack and Cokes and Bar-B-Q. In truth, Tennessee likely has overachieved, considering the win over South Carolina was a surprise to most. Of course the same could be said of the next two UT opponents — Missouri and Auburn. A split in November and bowl plans, considering UT will have played seven-ranked foes and likely faced six when they were in the top 15, qualifies as success.

Saturday: at Missouri, 7 (ESPN)

11) Vanderbilt (4-4, 1-4)

The Commodores need the by week desperately, especially to let quarterback Austyn Carta-Samuels heal. Yes, we believe these 'Dores are still a bowl team if they can split the final four — trips to Florida and Tennessee and home games against Kentucky and Wake Forest. And yes, we believe Carta-Samuels is one of the better hyphenated SEC names since BenJarvis Green-Ellis graduated.

Saturday: Off

12) Mississippi State (4-3, 1-2)

Are the Bulldogs ready to rally? It seems highly doubtful, at least in the coming days. Mississippi State has won three of its last four, but since the Bulldogs play in the SEC, everyone has a gauntlet they have to scale. This is MSU, which in the next three weeks will go to No. 14 South Carolina and to No. 12 Texas A&M and welcome No. 1 Alabama. Ouch-standing. The Bulldogs' bowl hopes likely hinge on sweeping the last two at Arkansas and Ole Miss. Some where Dan Mullen shakes his head and looks over his resume.

Saturday: at South Carolina, 12:21 (WDSI)

13) Kentucky (1-6, 0-4)

What's left to play for with the bowl push all but done? After last week's hard-fought 28-22 loss to Mississippi State, UK would have to win out to qualify for the postseason, and that seems unlikely. Kind of like you winning the lottery unlikely. So what's left? Two monster things: First, there's the pride that these Cats have displayed from the start. Second, there is job security and positional positioning to worry about, considering Mark Stoops and Co. are recruiting their visors off. If you want to enter spring with a a leg up on the talented wave of newcomers who have committed to UK, buckle up boys.

Saturday: vs. Alabama State, 7:30 (FSN)

14) Arkansas (3-5, 0-4)

Is Bret Bielema crazy like a fox or just crazy? We'll see Saturday when the No. 11-ranked Auburn Tigers come to Fayetteville. Arkansas has lost five straight and is on the wrong side of a 104-0 run in its last two games. Some folks may want to have a high-flying, over-achieving opponent such as Auburn to come in over-looking a team in Arkansas' spot. Not Bielema, who continued to stir the soldering stew that is his war of words with first-year Auburn coach Gus Malzahn. After the two traded shots at SEC media days about the speed of Auburn's offense and again early in the season about Auburn coaches releasing injury information on the Hogs players, Bielema said the tape AU sent Arkansas from last week was not the same as version he watched on TV and filed a report with the league office. Only adds to the drama for Arkansas-native Malzahn's return to the Natural State. Giddy-up.

Saturday: vs. Auburn,


NFL Power Poll

The NFL is a results-driven league above all others, this upon which there is no debate. Injuries are part of the mix. So are bad bounces and good breaks. Everyone's schedules are different and their goals are the same.

The other long-standing axiom of the modern-day NFL is that it's a quarterback-driven league. This is true only to a point. Granted the better teams have answers rather questions at the most important position in team sports. Some even have brilliant answers that fit almost every question — answers like the parental "I said so," or when discussing classical music just smiling, nodding and saying, "Ah, Beethoven."

But the line between great quarterback answer and a quarterback answer that actually leaves questions is fine and more times than not divided by a season or two. And amazingly, it's the younger QBs that allow for more answers because in the salary-cap driven NFL, good-but-not-great QBs who ask for and get franchise-altering money consume a large percentage of the salary cap that limits teams' ability to fill needs and address depth.

So, as the NFL moves forward, if you have a Luck, a Rodgers, a Manning or a Brady, uou hang on to them and break the bank to do so over the long haul. But maximizing a team's winning window before a quarterback asks for cap-consuming coin is paramount, cases in point — the Ravens winning it before Joe Flacco became Joe Paycheck and the Falcons mortgaged the farm to sign Matt Ryan.

Look at the quarterback situations of some the league's elite teams. They are either elite quarterbacks that make elite plays or they are good QBs who are still in their team-friendly first contracts or they are solid QBs surrounded by talent and depth in a host of areas.

For quarterbacks, being good is enough to get a great contract. Ask Matt Stafford or Ryan or Jay Cutler. For teams, good quarterbacks that get a great percentage of the salary cap can be difficult around which to build.

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    Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith looks for a receiver during the first half of an NFL football game against the New York Giants at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City, Mo.
    Photo by Associated Press /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

Top Five

1) Kansas City: Yep, the Chiefs continue to hold the top spot at 8-0. So does this mean Alex Smith is better than Manning or Brady or Brees? Of course not. It proves the model that building around a pretty good QB can lead to great results. It also proves that being elite at quarterback is the game's No. 1 goal, but getting to the opposing quarterback — something the Chiefs doing better than everyone else — is a pretty close second.

2) Denver: Here is the build-for-now model. Denver added Peyton and augmented him with young players and free agents who took less in an effort to win. It has worked on each level, and the Broncos are only going to get better as Von Miller and some of the missing defensive pieces get back in the fold. The records may say otherwise, but we all know Denver will be favored when it faces Kansas City next week.

3) Seattle: Despite Monday's debacle against a Kellen Clemens-quarterback Rams team, the Seahawks are legit. They are 7-1 and have Tampa Bay, Atlanta and Minnesota in the next three weeks. They also are the prototype to the build around the quarterback and hope to ride a cheap, young player with promise. How long Russell Wilson remains cheap, though, is what limits Seattle's window.

4) New Orleans:The Saints are pointed nose-to-nose with the Seahawks. Each is dominant at home and each is dominant on one side and getting better on the other. The Saints identified their QB and built around him — adding valuable parts like Darren Sproles and Jimmy Graham on the cheap. The NFC playoffs are going to be fun.

5) San Francisco:Colin Kaepernick will be a supremely interesting test case in a few years when he re-ups. Will San Fran — a team loaded with arguably the best roster Nos. 1-53 in the league — sacrifice talent and depth to keep a running QB with a high ceiling but high-bust potential? It will also be interesting to see which teams reach into the 2014 quarterback draft pool, which Mel Kiper says is the deepest in recent memory.

Bottom five

28) Atlanta: Here's example Numero Uno of the quarterback cap-eater. Matt Ryan is signed through the next five years. That's the good news. The bad is that to keep playmakers around him, the defense has been gutted. The worse news is that when injuries happen to those playmakers — Julio Jones, please get well, signed the City of Atlanta — there is little hope. Atlanta is 2-5 and likely will be favored in just two — at Tampa and at home against Washington — of its final nine games.

29) Pittsburgh: Here's example 1B on the broken model of signing a quarterback to the huge deal and sacrificing depth and playmakers to get under the cap. Big Ben Roethlisberger earned that big paycheck with two Super Bowl rings, but the current Steelers are much closer to the No. 1 overall pick than being No. 1 because of the cap-eating space of his deal. Big Ben, indeed.

30) Minnesota: The Vikings are a turnstile at QB, having used former first-rounders Christian Ponder and Josh Freeman and former Pro Bowler Matt Cassel in starting roles this year. And there still are questions after Sunday's 44-31 loss to Green Bay that was made respectable by two Vikings TDs in the final five minutes and a 109-yard kickoff return for a touchdown by former Vols star Cordarrelle Patterson.

31) Tampa Bay: The Bucs were routed last week by the Panthers in a game that was worse than the 31-13 final. It also raised extreme questions about the future of Greg Schiano in Tampa. Schiano, the former Rutgers coach who is on the hottest of seats in the NFL, is the latest former college hot shot who has found tough sledding on Sundays. Here's saying Schiano is axed before the season and will find a nice gig at a major college quickly.

32) Jacksonville: Here is the perfect convergence of being bad at quarterback — when your choices are Blaine Gabbert or Chad Henne, you need to start looking for different questions — and being bad everywhere else. There's a poll question on the team website that asks what the Jags should focos on most during the off week, offense, defense or special teams? Wonder if this a poll for interest or if the coaching staff needs the input. Wow. Think Louisville quarterback Teddy Bridgewater is already scouting apartments in the greater Jacksonville area.


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    Boston Red Sox's David Ross hits an RBI double during the seventh inning of Game 5 of baseball's World Series against the St. Louis Cardinals Monday, Oct. 28, 2013, in St. Louis.
    Photo by Associated Press /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

World Series

The Red Sox made the most of a few scattered hits. David Ortiz is playing the part of Reggie Jackson. Playoff beards are becoming a fall accessory like brown shoes and pullover windbreakers.

Good times.

We talked some earlier this baseball season about the role of the closer and how modern evidence can be used for a manger to use his closer in the eighth or the seventh or the ninth, and that a game can be saved without officially being saved.

This move would be embraced by the stat-jockeys that think Moneyball is the Bible and MIT education is better than graduating from the school of hard knocks. And that's OK.

It would be loathed by guys that view the game with gut instincts steering the ship and embrace 'the book' as the guide, a forged collection of memories and theories and time-tested values that, in some ways, was written many moons ago by the then-stat-monkeys who believed in the Lord, that the sun rises in the East and play the lefty-righty matchups whenever possible.

Cardinals manager Mike Matheny went against that book in the Cards' 3-1 Game 5 loss Monday that put the Red Sox on the brink of another world title.

Matheny left starter Adam Wainwright on the mound to face lefty Jacoby Ellsbury, who delivered the final RBI with a two-out single.

In sports, decisions are second-guessed based on outcome. That's how it goes. Matheny eschewed 'the book' and stuck with his ace even though he had a lefty ready in the pen. It didn't work. His team is one more loss from being the first loser.

And you can book that, Dan-O.

This and that

— Amid the roller coaster/dumpster fire that has become Nebraska football the story comes out now that 15-year-veteran-starting-quarterback Taylor Martinez is battling a litany of injuries. Of course, the most recent is a hip injury, which seems to plague the elderly in every walk of life. Hope Taylor has updated his AARP.

— On a serious note — shut it Spy — while Nebraska's loss to Minnesota last week add fuel to the fire under Bo Pelini's seat, Texas has circled the wagons around head coach Mack Brown. The Longhorns have won four straight and control their destiny in the Big 12.

— Got any suggestions for the best sports Halloween costumes? Right now we're leaning toward taking the 5-at-10 tots to the rough and tumble streets of Signal Mountain dressed as Gus Malzahn. We can pull off the visor for sure.

— Tip of the Tam O'Shanter to Stewwie who pointed out the elephant in the room that the Brandel Chamblee flap with Tiger Woods could actually help The Golf Channel. It makes us think of the great line in the Howard Stern movie (good movie by the way) about how his fans listen for 20 minutes and the folks that hate him listen for 30 minutes — both saying they want to hear what he says next.


Today's question(s)

The NBA starts today. We're stoked. If LeBron played for the Hawks, would the Hawks be the favorite in the Eastern Conference?

Bad Grandpa debuted as the No. 1 movie at the box office. We feel pretty confident that it will not be nominated for best picture, and that's OK. What's your guilty pleasure comedy movie?

UT is facing QB questions because of Justin Worley's injured thumb and the promise of the freshmen. Who do you think takes the first snap Saturday — Worley, Josh Dobbs or Riley Ferguson?

We'll cover this more manana, but what are you expecting out of the Mocs this weekend?


about Jay Greeson...

Jay was named the Sports Editor of the Times Free Press in 2003 and started with the newspaper in May 2002 as the Deputy Sports Editor. He was born and raised in Smyrna, Ga., and graduated from Auburn University before starting his newspaper career in 1997 with the Newnan (Ga.) Times Herald. Stops in Clayton and Henry counties in Georgia and two years as the Sports Editor of the Marietta (Ga.) Daily Journal preceded Jay’s ...

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TennFlyer said...

Costume idea When our sons were 7 and 4 we dressed the older one up as a baseball player. We put the younger one in a white shirt and tie and he went as his agent. He kept all his candy plus got 15% of his brothers'.

October 29, 2013 at 10:33 a.m.
chas9 said...

Who are these Falcons of which you speak?

Maybe Nebraska can replace Bo with Charlie. I think Weiss will be available.

I been saying A. J. is the best of the QB crop this year, so I approve your tribute to him.

Sorry, Carta-Samuels can't touch HaHa Clinton-Dix.

Why would you contaminate a perfectly good tumbler of Jack or Maker's Mark with Coke? Do you still drink umbrella drinks?

Laugh if you will, but The Bluegrass Cats have something else to play for. They get The Vols in Commonwealth, which'll be the UK bowl game. Of course, by that time Kentucky will be 7-0 on the hardwood.

The War Eagle Tigers are good, but I ain't so sure they're better'n a coupla other conference Tigers.

October 29, 2013 at 10:37 a.m.
MocTastic said...

One of the strangest costumed kids I have ever met at my front door was two years ago. Two young boys, probably 11 to 12ish rang my door bell. One was dressed up in a costume, the other not, but he was combing his hair, non-stop. I asked him what his costume was and he said he came as an OCD person, a person who couldn't quit combing his hair, all the while combing his hair while this was going on. Points for originality and strangeness. He recieved his treat.

October 29, 2013 at 10:39 a.m.
JonathanMCook said...

"Got any suggestions for the best sports Halloween costumes? Right now we're leaning toward taking the 5-at-10 tots to the rough and tumble streets of Signal Mountain dressed as Gus Malzahn. We can pull off the visor for sure."

Nothing beats two years ago the 6-7 year old kid who did Ron Washington for his Halloween costume here in Big D.

I figured Moc-Mania would be reserved for tomorrow given the usual Tuesday topics. That being said, I forgot the last time Chattanooga won in Boone (according to Mr. Frierson), the Roundhouse was less then a year old, "Pac-Man" was a Saturday Morning staple on ABC, Reagan helped conceive the modern Republican like Ted Cruz and Scott Dejarnis and their voter block(aka Bubble Boy's parents), and "Return of the Jedi" was the newest Star Wars film.

Interesting topic yesterday on SportTalk as to why people don't go to the games. The newest one: The music is too loud. My rebuttel to old dude: You don't like the Mocs anyway and are just looking for an excuse as to why you don't go. My other favorite is PO-ed old black guy who believes there's a nepotism consperacy to keep T-Rob from being QB. Quake had the best line though: If they hadn't lost to UT-Martin or Georgia Southern, there would be 12,000+ the last couple of home games. He then tapers off to yes, we have our SEC loyalities. And unless they make the playoffs are start getting ranked again, people an't going to show the same passion as they would to Knoxville, Athens, and Tuscaloosa. I agree.

October 29, 2013 at 10:42 a.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show StuckinKent —

Next weekend I expect the Mocs to beat Covenant in basketball.

Did you see the easiest line of the week? Auburn -9 over Arkansas? How is Missouri an 11.5 point favorite over Tennessee and Auburn just a nine point favorite over Arkansas? I don't get it. Yes, home field makes a difference. But still. Wow! I'll take Auburn to cover easily, and would not be particularly surprised if Tennessee covers. I also would not be surprised if Mississippi State beat South Carolina. Why? Teams are notoriously bad the week after multiple OT games. Mizzou and South Carolina could struggle this week

October 29, 2013 at 11:19 a.m.
chas9 said...

I saw Mizzou, SC, and Auburn all 10 point faves. I'll take SC and Auburn to cover, but stay away from the other game.

Here's a Halloween idea. Sort of sports related.

You know how convenience stores will usually have up front a bunch of singles on ice in a big barrel that looks like a beer or soft drink can? OK, go down to Kanku's and look in the back storage room and see if you can get one of those that looks like a Co-ca-Cola can.

Cut a coupla leg holes in the bottom and have Mrs. 5@10 step into it. Fix a coupla shoulder straps at the top to hold it on.

Go down to the costume store and get yourself a Jack Nicholson mask, maybe in his Joker role, and put it on.

You and the missus can go tricker-treating as Jack and Coke. Put a patch over one eye and you can be one-eyed Jack and Coke. Of course, you may have to explain to some of your slow friends that you're not Joker and Coker.

October 29, 2013 at 11:39 a.m.
chas9 said...

If the missus needs to stay at home and hand out gummy bears, here's a solo costume for Jay.

Find out where Flav-o-flav gets the clocks he wears around his neck. Get a big one and remove the 10 from the clock face. Now remove the 5 from its position and put it where the 10 was. Hang it on you and hit the streets with your pillowcase. Don't bother going by the dentist's house. He gives out floss.

You're welcome.

October 29, 2013 at 12:13 p.m.
jgreeson said...

9er —

Thanks for the tips. Stupid dentist.

And speaking of All Hallow's Eve, how about the street myth about the "Razor Blade" in the apple? And when we were kids, didn't they have like free X-rays set up to examine the candy.


And HaHa only has an edge because HaHa is his nickname. Although if his brother Bill Clinton-Dix ever decided to have a reality show, we'd all watch.

Stuck —

We are expecting a win over Covenant, as well. We'd also like for Mr. Wade to pull some strings and get Shaka and Co. in the Roundhouse sooner rather than later.


Heard that back-and-forth, and as always the SportTalk Crew — Quake, Cowboy and Dr. B (he is a doctor after all) — handled themselves famously. They are very good at what they do. And we are going to get more into this tomorrow, but we'll broach part of this right now:

We have heard since we arrived in our fair city circa 2002 that the Mocs attendance was the cause of being stinky. OK, we can buy that since pre-Huesman they were exceedingly stinky and with Huesman and Co. they have been .500. But, what happens if the Mocs go to Boone and win, and still 8,500 show up?

We hope the Fighting Huesmans win at App for a variety of reasons, among them is that we are intrigued to see the number of fannies is seats if UTC enters a Wofford game with the playoffs hanging in the balance on a five-game winning streak.

Loud music or not.

TennFlyer —

That's genius. In some neighborhoods that's an agent. In others, that would be a pimp.

October 29, 2013 at 12:26 p.m.
chas9 said...

And in other TFP news, we are informed that a man exposes himself, proposes marriage. That's so wrong. Shouldn't one propose marriage first? What works these days, Spy?

October 29, 2013 at 12:59 p.m.
Stewwie said...

The Mocs should expect to win this Saturday. Keon may not play, but that shouldn't matter. The other RBs are capable of filling the void. The offense needs to protect the ball and Durden needs to call a good game.

Not sure yet how many will show up for the Wofford game. The Mocs had a big game last year against GSU and only a hair under 9,000 showed up...and a third of those were GSU fans. Maybe a heavy promotion from the athletics dept. will encourage a good turnout, but either way, it's hard for the Mocs to compete against the SEC on TV. Plus, the Wofford game is being shown on ESPN3.

October 29, 2013 at 2:09 p.m.
Stewwie said...

[If LeBron played for the Hawks, would the Hawks be the favorite in the Eastern Conference?]

I'd give the edge to the Bulls. But the Hawks would be close.

LeBron on the Bulls: "We don't like them, they don't like us. It's not unheard of. We all know how it is."

Giddy up.

October 29, 2013 at 3:06 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

If LeBron played for the Hawks, they would still underachieve. Why? Because they're the Hawks. And if the Falcons aren't careful, they'll become as much as background noise in the Atlanta sports scene as the Hawks are.

This really hasn't been a great year for Atlanta area sports teams to get their fanbases enthused about anything. Another postseason Braves flameout. The Falcons are tripping over the shoelaces of their cleats (there is another decidedly not FOIB term for that, but will not venture there), the Hawks are ... the Hawks, the Thrashers are extinct and the colleges there haven't set the world on fire, either.

If Johnny Payziel isn't available, I can hang with Gronk and Carlos Estevez for a weekend. No Tiger, though. He can stay his stripes at home with ski girl.

And as bad as Wake Forest was early in the year (losing at home to UL-Konroe? E-gads.) the Demon Deacons are playing much better now. Vandy shouldn't count that one as a win just yet.

Can' wait for the NBA season to end. And it hasn't even started yet.

Chas, I guess he wanted her to see what her future held, for better or worse. For what it's worth, even The Spy has a spot and a speech for that special someone who wishes to condemn herself to a lifetime with the Spy.

October 29, 2013 at 3:27 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

Now comes word that Gronk and his family are pitching an animated TV series about their lives. As if that cartoon Keeping Up With the Kardashians wasn't enough. (Huh? That's not a cartoon? Bruce Jenner really looks like that? Dear word.)

October 29, 2013 at 3:51 p.m.
jgreeson said...

Good stuff gang.

We're pro-Stewwie, anti-Spy in the NBA discussion.

We are pro-Spy in the anti-Kardashian discussion. If Bruce Jenner mated with Joan Rivers, they would have a baby Stretch Armstrong.

We are anti-naked marriage proposals, although that could be the highest form of truth in advertising, no?

October 29, 2013 at 5:01 p.m.
chas9 said...
<p> says it'll be Dobbs at the helm Saturday. We need to get him a nickname.

When it comes to Kardashian proposals and the wreckage that follows it seems to be expose oneself, propose, expose again, count to ten, expose something else, and so on, ad nauseum.

October 29, 2013 at 5:21 p.m.
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