published Wednesday, April 16th, 2014

The Discount

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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And the candy bar named after BO and his contributions to this country, Zero.

Exactly PT. BO, like all lefties, is good at projection and is a hypocrite.

April 16, 2014 at 12:54 a.m.

Cry me a river. The real "war on women" is taking place in the middle east, Asia and Africa.

April 16, 2014 at 1 a.m.
fairmon said...

The delta indicated is totally wrong. Figures lie and liars figure. False advertising.

April 16, 2014 at 4:43 a.m.
fairmon said...

Interesting data regarding tipping.

So who are the stingiest tippers?

Among the states, Illinois customers left the least at 13.6 percent. Three New York cities made the bottom 10. Syracuse, N.Y., tipped the lowest at 12.1 percent, followed by Ithaca, N.Y., at 12.8 percent, Champaign, Ill., at 13.1 percent and Rochester, N.Y., at 13.4 percent. Among big tipping states, the Southeast had a strong showing with five making the top 10.

It appears some liberal states are conservative when it is their money being spent? Should there be a law to assure tipping equality? Don't give some in congress any ideas for another opportunity to intervene.

April 16, 2014 at 5:30 a.m.
Reardon said...

Two Points:

1) You are paid what you are worth, male or female, black or white. Want to make more? Become indispensable. Work harder, work longer, develop skills that give you an edge.

You do not OWN your job -- you are an employee of the firm, of which truly owns the employment opportunity (never forget that). You merely have the PRIVILEGE to work where ever you work currently.

Have a problem with that? Make a job for yourself (like I did).

2) Regarding tipping -- blacks are outright the worst tippers on the face of the planet. Anybody who has delivered pizza, waited tables, or valeted for a living knows what I'm talking about.

April 16, 2014 at 6:34 a.m.
conservative said...

I can top you Mr. Bennett.

If you have a Supplemental NUTRITION Assistance Program card the candy bar is free!

Want a complete meal? Then throw in a Coke and a bag of chips, they are free also, IF you have the FREE card.

Did you ever notice how fat the FREE card users are?

Have you ever seen a FREE card user open up a bag of chips at the checkout line for her troublesome child?

April 16, 2014 at 7:03 a.m.

Reardon, very good.

You'll be branded a racist for your last comment by the libs on here. I've done all three of those jobs, and more, and that's my experience as well. I've also waited tables in an area of Chicago mostly populated by folks of polish and czech ancestry, and trying to get a decent tip there was like trying to squeeze water out of rock.

April 16, 2014 at 11:39 a.m.
prairie_dog said...

The women who excel in high school, and study math and science, do as well or BETTER than the majority of men. It's a matter of choice, and of talent, and ability, and a lot of hard work.

Women, as well as men, put themselves into occupational dead ends by choice. Anyone who is willing to work at being good at something for which there is a lucrative market is going to succeed and make top pay. It's not art. It's not music. It's not retail sales. Business may work. Science, engineering and medicine are guaranteed to work.

April 16, 2014 at 2:20 p.m.
jesse said...

wow, they let me on here today and i can't think of nothin to say!!

April 16, 2014 at 2:32 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Welcome back, old goat.

April 16, 2014 at 3:20 p.m.
jesse said...

It prob.ain't gonna last long P T!

April 16, 2014 at 3:31 p.m.

What's the problem with coming on this forum?

April 16, 2014 at 4:05 p.m.
limric said...

Has anyone else noticed the irony of some Chattanoogan’s lamenting, “Ah the tolerant left” - or the pure cognitive dissonance of denouncing Obama (or the left) as a socialist and… at the same time portray him visually with a Hitler mustache, or liberals as fascists?

While an invited NSM, (a right wing ideology. violently racist, anti-Semitic, anti-Catholic, anti-socialist, that targets everything left of extreme right for extermination) is coming to town. Let’s Gin up the bogus ‘left wing Fascism.' REAL right wing fascists...eh whatever. It’s free speech.

The beacon of willful ignorance emanating from Chattanooga would be blinding if viewed from space.

April 16, 2014 at 4:39 p.m.

Who invited the NSM? "willful ignornance"? Who are you referring to? The majority of the people in this city don't want the them here, nor do they support them. I live in a neighborhood here in Chattanooga which is both black and white. I can guarantee you that no one in this neighborhood will be attending that event. The NSM is based in Detroit.

The hatred spewed from the NSM is on the same level as the racist bile the Rev. Jeremiah Wright tosses out ever Sunday. You know, BO's former preacher. I guess the "willful ignorance" emanating from Chicago is blinding, huh?

Some of the most racist individuals I've ever met are up north in the various cities I've live in up there.

April 16, 2014 at 6:01 p.m.
sangaree said...

Reardon said: 2) Regarding tipping -- blacks are outright the worst tippers on the face of the planet. Anybody who has delivered pizza, waited tables, or valeted for a living knows what I'm talking about

Probably has more to do with your obvious condescending attitude and obvious dislike towards blacks in particular? In my college days, working in restaurants and other tipping jobs, I found blacks actually often overtip. But maybe that's because I treated them and everyone I encounter with the respect they deserve.

April 16, 2014 at 6:31 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

jesse said...

wow, they let me on here today and i can't think of nothin to say!!

I see that Alpo is still letting his alligator mouth make B.S. claims, about other posters, that his bumble bee a##&ole can’t back up..... LMFAO !!

April 16, 2014 at 7:39 p.m.
tifosi said...

"I see that Alpo is still letting his alligator mouth make B.S. claims"

Ummm... Alprova hasn't posted anything. Confirmation you have quite an imagination.

April 16, 2014 at 7:55 p.m.
Reardon said...

Sangaree -- take it from a former pizza delivery man (me) and my wife who served locally here in Chattanooga for a half decade at a popular local restaurant.

I delivered exceptional service to all races; so did my wife while waiting tables.

However, YOU are the exception if you are telling the truth (and I highly doubt it, unless you were working in another part of the country).

Blacks in large part don't tip according to customary practices that most everyone else in LARGE part follow (there are always exceptions to rules).

Instead of tipping in percentages, blacks normally tip a buck, maybe two bucks, if you're lucky. Mostly they leave you the spare change.

I guarantee you -- every day a black walks into a restaurant in Anytown, USA -- servers of all socioeonomic and racial backgrounds (that includes blacks, too) that bust their A$$ and give exceptional service and care, are rolling their eyes, arguing over who's got to take them as a customer.

Not because they are racist! But because 1/20 times, they are not going to get a tip reflective of the customary norm everyone else tends to follow.

April 16, 2014 at 8:33 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

I would say it's more reflective of their economic status, Reardon. My youngest brother, white as snow, terrible manager of money (mainly, from attempting to appease his wife) and he tips maybe 30% of the time. And that 30% isn't a "decent" tip. Maybe a buck or two on a 40.00 check.

April 16, 2014 at 9:49 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

zab, why don't you go live in the middle east since you do not want to deal with the problems we have here or our wage disparity? Or why not take a salary you might get in one of those places if you were a woman?

rear - please do away with stereotypes used by racists. (It's the color of their skin that causes the problem. )If greasy spoons paid a living wage we would not need tips. In Japan to tip is to insult the service provider.

prairedoggie - it ain't true, in professional jobs salaries and promotions of women generally lag those of men. Talk to a female Ph.D. whose gone through the tenure process. Of course there are exceptions, such as:

some women do cling in part to the idea of wanting to have everything, family and successful job. It is a hard thing to do, male or female. Males have always had wives who stayed barefoot and pregnant to take care of the house and crying babies. It would be hard for a man to do it, but even this does not account for the wage disparity. Which is not to say things have not improved over the last 50 years.

April 16, 2014 at 10:42 p.m.
facyspacy said...

Gaussi said, "I would say it's more reflective of their economic status, Reardon. My youngest brother, white as snow, terrible manager of money (mainly, from attempting to appease his wife) and he tips maybe 30% of the time. And that 30% isn't a "decent" tip. Maybe a buck or two on a 40.00 check."

No, you must have not had to work as a server/bartender/wait staff in high school or college. No one is saying all black people tip or all white people tip good, they are saying a cast majority of black people tip poorly. And it is true. I used to play a game with myself to give better service to the African tables to try and get a tip out of them. Never seemed to work.

Equal pay for equal work.... There are people who work very hard 40 hr week jobs making 30k and there are some people who don't work very hard at all for hundreds of thousands. I have yet to see where a woman is paid less than a man for the same position. This is the life you chose, deal with it or MAKE a new one.

April 17, 2014 at 6:33 a.m.
Reardon said...

IQ -- Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason!

The group of people who happen to tip pathetically, if at all, at least 80% of the time, happens to be blacks. Regardless whether or not exceptional service was delivered.

It is NOT racism that is the driving factor behind this reality -- it is real life interaction with this particular group.

And when did we follow Japanese cultural norms?

Gauss -- it's not so much economic status as it is different cultural mores. There are always people of all backgrounds that don't tip. But they are the minority of cases.

Blacks, on the other hand, just as young black males commit the majority of all violent crime, largely do not tip. Those are the facts and anecdotes from hundreds of thousands of wait staff nationally.

April 17, 2014 at 6:54 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

White guilt promotes the racial divide. White guilters (mostly on the left) will not criticize African-Americans. Worse, they will label those that do.

April 17, 2014 at 9:54 a.m.

PT, yeah, you got that right. White guilt help BO get in office.

April 17, 2014 at 10:18 a.m.
alprova said...

Apparently, you two cannot fathom that there are white people who do not play the games of supporting white people, strictly because they are white.

It's totally laughable, the notion that I was "guilted" into voting for Barack Obama because he is black.

I voted for the man because he is, and still remains a man who cares for more people than any of the other candidates who ran for President in 2008 and 2012.

You two can sit in your arm chairs all day long, each and every day, bashing the man, and your words will never touch the man, nor change a thing he does or stands for.

In other words, it don't matter how you feel. History will be very kind to the man, watch and see.

April 17, 2014 at 10:34 a.m.
limric said...

Please provide ‘credible’ references/evidence to the above specious pejorative.

Racial divide is largely promoted and propagandized by a decidedly deceitful element of black leadership that profit from a continued inciting of division and then an abdication of blame for their actions.

White guilt is just that, guilt. It does not in any way 'promote racial divide'.

April 17, 2014 at 10:40 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Limmy says "Racial divide is largely promoted and propagandized by a decidedly deceitful element of black leadership that profit from a continued inciting of division and then an abdication of blame for their actions." Limmy's correct. And these "black leaders" are perpetuated and encouraged by wearers of the white guilt jersey. You don't see that, Lim?

April 17, 2014 at 11:03 a.m.

Alprova you're transparent. "a man who cares for more people than any of the other candidates who ran" That statement will insure you a place in the national gullible hall of fame. There's no evidence at all that BO cares more about people than anyone else, or is anything more than a manipulative politician.

April 17, 2014 at 11:04 a.m.

You want to see white guild on parade, limric? Check out Father Michael Pfleger. The perfect poster child for white guilt.

April 17, 2014 at 11:07 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

Alpo says "In other words, it don't matter how you feel. History will be very kind to the man, watch and see." You serious, Al? What issue will history judge him kindly?

April 17, 2014 at 11:08 a.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "Alprova you're transparent. "a man who cares for more people than any of the other candidates who ran" That statement will insure you a place in the national gullible hall of fame."

Well Sir, that may be your opinion, but it's nothing more than that.

I have mine and you have yours. Your opinions are not fact based any more than mine are.

I do however believe your opinions about the man have more to do with the color of his skin than any other factor that can be raised.

Your very insertion of his skin color bears that out quite nicely.

"There's no evidence at all that BO cares more about people than anyone else, or is anything more than a manipulative politician."

Again, that is your opinion. I listen to what the man says, rather than to turn my nose in the air because he is black.

April 17, 2014 at 11:34 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

^^^^^ Precisely the problem with white guilters". All you see is color*.

April 17, 2014 at 11:37 a.m.
limric said...

Quote: ”And these black leaders" are perpetuated and encouraged by wearers of the white guilt jersey.” As I said, Please provide ‘credible’ references/evidence to the above specious claim.

I’m not debating white guilt per se Zableedofisterix. What I am challenging is the assertion that ”White guilt promotes the racial divide.”

It doesn’t.

April 17, 2014 at 11:37 a.m.

"listen to what the man says" That's precisely it, I am listening to what he has said, is saying, and what he does. I couldn't care less what color he is. It's what he stands for, and what he's done that is the problem.

Libs like you continue to perpetuate the race thing. Even at this point you're still accusing folks of being racist if they criticize him. BO himself had the nerve a few months ago to blame racism for his poll numbers not being as high as would like. That after being elected twice in a row.

April 17, 2014 at 11:54 a.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "Libs like you continue to perpetuate the race thing."

How can you even write that with a straight face? Who brought race into the conversation this morning, and who agreed with it 20 minutes later?

"Even at this point you're still accusing folks of being racist if they criticize him."

In the absense of anything to explain your bashing the man day in and day out, race has to be the factor explaining it. When you attack those who vote for the man as being in a class of people who are experiencing "white guilt," race is definitely on your mind.

"BO himself had the nerve a few months ago to blame racism for his poll numbers not being as high as would like."

And he is right. Look, you can sit there and claim that you have not an ounce of bigotry in your body, and you're never in a million years convince me that you are not a blatant bigot.

It isn't those of us who bat left that are bringing up the issue of the man's race. It starts every single time with those like yourself.

"That after being elected twice in a row."

Why don't you just call people like me what you really want to call us.

"N" Lovers...

April 17, 2014 at 12:28 p.m.
sangaree said...

Reardon said... The group of people who happen to tip pathetically, if at all, at least 80% of the time, happens to be blacks. Regardless whether or not exceptional service was delivered.

Your observation is seriously flawed, because blacks are the least likely to dine out or patronize many restaurants in the first place due to diehard racists with an attitude like you who work there. Remember the black FBI agents who kept being overlooked and ignored for seating at a famous restaurant chain? Whites entering the restaurant kept being seated ahead of them.

re: It is NOT racism that is the driving factor behind this reality -- it is real life interaction with this particular group.

Wrong! You are a racist! Pure and simple. Just be honest about it.

re: And when did we follow Japanese cultural norms?

sushi anyone? LOL

April 17, 2014 at 12:57 p.m.
MickeyRat said...

Eh let’s get it over with. It’s time to call a spade a spade. Conservatives are, by and large, bigots.

Someone commenting here fatefully injected a dog-whistle issue and exposed the unfortunate nature of his Pavlovian conditioning. Not too smart.

April 17, 2014 at 1:35 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Rat. You're sick.

April 17, 2014 at 2:32 p.m.
MickeyRat said...

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to throw one of the most common arguments that racists use; the ‘ad hominem’ – question a commenter's intelligence, character, age or motives.

Like one of il Duce’s Railroads – right on schedule.

April 17, 2014 at 3:17 p.m.

Alprova, what the hell are you talking about? BO is not right, his poll numbers are not what he wants because he sucks, and not because he's black. He's a whiner. He was elected twice, so are people just now discovering that he's black and his poll numbers are dipping because of that? That's idiocy. After being POTUS for 6 years I think race is not factor at all, it's his job performance.

April 17, 2014 at 3:23 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Rat: You're exactly the type of Lib I'm talking about. Exactly BTW, anyone that studied Mussolini beyond Wiki, knows that he did not keep the trains running on time.

April 17, 2014 at 4:22 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

El Presidente today says that Dems in office should forcefully defend Obamacare. I totally agree with him.

April 17, 2014 at 4:27 p.m.
MickeyRat said...

He he he, maybe not - but you're still a racist. Still waiting for an answer to Limric's question. Do have one?

April 17, 2014 at 4:49 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

What was the question?

April 17, 2014 at 5:30 p.m.
limric said...

LOL.

April 17, 2014 at 7:36 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "BO is not right, his poll numbers are not what he wants because he sucks, and not because he's black."

I don't form my opinions of the President based on polling numbers. Do you? I think so, since you bring it up all the time.

"He's a whiner."

Hardly, but that word DOES describe those who bash the man all the time.

"He was elected twice, so are people just now discovering that he's black and his poll numbers are dipping because of that?"

Not on your life. The poll numbers haven't changed among his core supporters very much at all. If you pay attention to Fox, they claim to have the ear of "most of America," which is bogus.

"After being POTUS for 6 years I think race is not factor at all, it's his job performance."

Sir, race has been a factor since day one, and you know it. You've not found one thing at all the man has done correct.

You dislike the man first and foremost because he is not white.

April 17, 2014 at 10:28 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

Not always about race, Alpo. For instance, I loathe you and I presume you're white.

April 17, 2014 at 10:46 p.m.
Reardon said...

Sangaree:

The last thing any restaurant owner is going to do in this highly sensitive and litigious culture is purposely and obviously discriminate.

Think about it.

Whites cower at blacks all the time -- they are afraid of being labeled racists for observing and stating obvious and disturbing trends in black culture (from a lack of tipping to the disproportionate level of crime black male youth commit).

Such behavior is reprehensible, and the fact that I observe blacks are more often than not the ones committing the behavior, does not mean I'm a racist.

April 18, 2014 at 1:36 a.m.
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