published Monday, August 25th, 2014

Wrong To Condemn choice of suicide and other letters to the editors

Wrong To Condemn Choice Of Suicide

To say that suicide is a cowardly act is to commit a cowardly act against the deceased who cannot defend themselves. It is giving the deceased person a kick in the head, and it is an extreme unkindness directed at the deceased.

It shows an unkindness to those who mourn for the deceased. And it is also a lie. A coward would not be able to take his own life. A coward will do anything he can to save his life. It takes bravery for a person to make such a decision and go through with it.

A person's life belongs to the person. Robin Williams owned his own life. We all own our own lives. When people get to the point where they decide to pull the plug on themselves, they are within their rights as human beings. It is their business and their decision to make.

As fellow human beings, we can grieve over the decision and over the life that's gone, but it would be wrong to condemn the deceased and dishonor them because of their decision to leave the stage.

NORMAN CROWE


David Cook's Column 'Close To Blasphemy'

In my opinion, David Cook came very close to blasphemy in his article on Aug. 8. God did, in fact, create all things, but he created them in a pure and sinless state. Man, because of his lust, has perverted sex and turned it into something vile and sinful. According to his article, God is also a pedophile, an adulterer, a murderer, etc. If he is trying to say God loves all sinners, that is right on target, but this is one time he missed it big time.

God will forgive the homosexual, as well as the pedophile, but he would never condone the sin.

Jesus would never attend a homosexual wedding, unless it was to preach repentance or to pronounce judgment on those who rejected his forgiveness.

I know I will be labeled as homophobic, but before you be so quick to judge, I had several friends at work who were homosexual, and if you could speak with them, they would tell you I never mistreated them. Also my wife and I were at the hospital with a friend the night he died after contracting AIDS from living a gay lifestyle.

JACK WILLIAMS


Kerry Given His Talking Points

Secretary of State John Kerry has moved to a new battleground since his successes in Israel, Iran and the Ukraine have been lacking. He now wants to interject his square jaw into global warming.

This is not surprising since a leaked memo from the Democratic National Committee (which was reprinted in The Washington Post) gave specific details on how to promote Obama's plan to whip the country into a frenzy over the "dangers" of global warming. The memo from Senate Budget Committee Chairwoman Patty Murray urges all Democrats to start talking about how climate change will hurt the federal budget.

There are no concrete facts in the memo, just details on ways to promote their radical agenda.

WILLIAM GODSEY, Crossville, Tenn.


Voting seen as futile act

Why vote? Princeton University has conducted two studies recently which conclude first, that the United States is ruled by an oligarchy of wealthy individuals and corporations, and second, that the political activity of the rest of the populace has no effect on domestic or foreign policy.

Yes, we are cannon fodder for the oligarchies' imperialist wars and villains on our master's estate fit to be plucked and fleeced. Further, our allegiance to a political party is a farce for the ages as it matters not which group controls government because the oligarchy has bought them both. Consider immigration as an example of an issue that voters want solved, yet since the 1980s no president or Congress regardless of party will secure the border, remove illegals and control immigration. Voting only legitimizes our vassalage and subordination to the oligarchs.

Why vote when the outcome is rigged so that only a few are heard?

CLAY WHITTAKER

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lkeithlu said...

Blasphemy according to your particular sectarian beliefs, Mr. Williams, but not everyone's. Thank dog the rest of us have the freedom not to follow yours.

August 25, 2014 at 7:07 a.m.
LibDem said...

Mr. NORMAN CROWE, Unfortunately many young people contemplate suicide. Encouraging them to take this step is irresponsible. I'm surprised the paper would print your letter.

August 25, 2014 at 7:32 a.m.

JACK WILLIAMS wrote: "According to his [David Cook] article, God is also a pedophile, an adulterer, a murderer, etc."

Well Mr. Williams, Jehovah (the particular god in question) did have at least a one-night stand with a young virgin girl named Mary and impregnated her.

I am unaware that Jehovah was an adulterer. There is no doubt from the Bible though that Jehovah was a supernatural pimp providing young girls for his followers as "war booty." Who would want to marry Jehovah anyway? Can you imagine living with his supernatural ego and personality disorder?

Was Jehovah a murderer? Without a doubt one of the all-time greats at mass murder and genocide.

It's also wonderful you know what Jesus would do at a wedding. Do you channel Jesus while wearing your tin-foil hat? How many channels can you pickup with that hat? Are you available for parties? Can you channel Oral Roberts? Now there was a comedy show worth watching.

Jehovah was just another in a long line of fictitious deities with an appalling track record for cruelty and mayhem.

So if you take the Bible as literal instead of metaphor your Jehovah appears more like Ted Bundy and Kim Il Song than a kindly benevolent grandfather figure of Sunday School lore.

All that and more in your Bible if you'll read it.

August 25, 2014 at 7:50 a.m.
moon4kat said...

William Godsey, it seems you think knowledge of science is a "radical agenda." Those who care about this planet and the creatures who live here (including humans) have become familiar with the facts over a period of years. We have also seen that the forecasts of climate change are materializing. Put your head in the sand if you want, but efforts to solve a global problem are far from being a "radical agenda."

August 25, 2014 at 8:26 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

Mr. Wiliams, a God who sanctions slavery, misogyny, genocide, rape, and incest, as he did all throughout the Old Testament, is deserving of all the blasphemy any right-minded person can heap upon him. Furthermore, a heavenly father who creates an eternal hell for his disobedient children should be the first to burn in it. You do not worship a God of love, sir, you worship a friggin' tyrant and a sadistic maniac.

As for Jesus not attending a homosexual wedding "unless it was to preach repentance or pronounce judgment," how do you know what Jesus would do? He contradicted himself on just about everything he ever said, so how can you be so sure? You worship the sort of Jesus you WANT to believe in, as most of you cherry-picking Christians do.

August 25, 2014 at 11:34 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

Mr. Whittaker, you make some good points about our oligarchic system of government. America has indeed become an oligarchy, with the system rigged to benefit the rich and big business. But you lost me entirely on "remove illegals." Certainly there are some of them who are deserving of removal but many, if not most, of them are guilty of nothing more than being here in the first place, which is a mere misdemeanor. They came here for the express purpose of making a better living and it was our porous borders, the eagerness of business owners to hire them, and lack of a clearly defined immigration policy that allowed them to enter and to remain. In the meantime they have been living peacefully and contributing to the productivity of this nation, working hard at jobs that most Americans don't even want to do.

We will never solve the immigration problem until hard-nosed Republicans and WASPs fearful of losing their dominance cease and desist with their punitive attitude and approach the problem with fairness and practicality instead.

August 25, 2014 at 11:52 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

LibDem, your point is well taken, but at the same time I think that Norman Crowe's letter is valid and worthy of being printed. Too many people are too quick to label suicide a "cowardly" act or, as many Christians consider it, a "sin." But it is impossible to get inside the head and heart of anyone and know clearly why they made the choice to take their life.

Certainly nobody wants to say or do anything that would somehow enable, or worse yet encourage, teens - or anyone of any age, for that matter - to follow through with their suicidal tendencies. But I don't think that labeling any and every suicide as a cowardly act is going to necessarily discourage those who are seriously considering it. Anyway, it's a fine line to tread, between seemingly validating suicide and doing whatever is possible to discourage it in those who might be vulnerable.

August 25, 2014 at 12:16 p.m.
Plato said...

I favor a national law based on Oregon's Death with Dignity Euthanasia law. It requires a physician to determine that you have a health condition that will result in death within 6 months. You are prescribed lethal drugs which you take home and use at a time and place of your own choosing.

All states have euthanasia laws for domestic animals. If we have determined that animals should not suffer needless why should we not determine the same for humans?

Forcing people to live and suffer against their will would seem to be unconstitutional to me.

August 25, 2014 at 12:51 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

Plato, I completely agree with you about euthanasia for humans, at least for those with terminal illnesses. But there is a huge difference between that and someone considering suicide from depression or emotional turmoil. As for Robin Williams, we don't know how much of a factor his recent diagnosis of Parkinson's disease had to do with his decision to take his life, or was it his long-running battle with depression...or a combination of factors that were causing him such mental strife?

August 25, 2014 at 1 p.m.
conservative said...

Most of the usual Atheists have shown up for today.

August 25, 2014 at 2:11 p.m.

conservative said... "Most of the usual Atheists have shown up for today."

All without need of your imaginary gods, FundyNutZ Bible-Humpers, and fear of impotent bogeymen, though I did have bird poop on my car window (or were those droppings from the Holy Ghosty?)

Another great day without gods and their eunuchs.

August 25, 2014 at 2:36 p.m.
LibDem said...

"It takes bravery for a person to make such a decision and go through with it."

I'm not sure there is adequate distinction here between euthanasia and a bad hair day.

August 25, 2014 at 2:51 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

"It takes bravery for a person to make such a decision and go through with it."

Admittedly, that is a pretty brash and overly generalized statement, attributing more nobility, perhaps, to suicide than it rightfully deserves. The point is that sometimes it can indeed be a noble act, requiring courage to follow through. Other times it can be an impetuous and perhaps even a cowardly escape. Like most things in life, there is always that grey area, with the deed being relative to the circumstance and the individual.

The problem with teen suicide is that teenagers are almost always the victims of relentless peer pressure, bullying, raging hormones, and a distorted self-image, all of which combine to wreak havoc with their emotions. It is difficult for them to see how profoundly their life will change, and usually for the better, in just a few short years. So it is truly tragic for them to succumb to the temptation to end their life at such a young age.

August 25, 2014 at 4:40 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Let's see, a soldier leaps upon a hand grenade and kills himself, rather than waiting for a buddy to do it, or to see if he can survive the explosion; thereby saving his fellow soldiers and is lauded a hero. A person overwhelmed by depression kills himself out of uncontrolled grief or other human emotion and he is condemned as a coward or heretic. Another person with a clear mind drinks a cup of poison rather than letting someone kill him. A group of teen girls bully another girl until she commits suicide and patents of the bullies find excuses for their "innocent" childrens' behavior.

Rickaroo points out the terrible complexity of suicide. It deserves to be discussed openly in hope that persons contemplating it may reach out for help or have someone reach out to them, rather than have their depression painted as a stigma encouraging them to feel even worse about the circumstances.

It is also worth noting that upfront dealing with bullies, a strategy often decried by the extremist conservative side of society as the state meddling in local affairs, is a prudent way to dissuade kids who intentionally or not prey on their peers who have low self-esteem.

August 27, 2014 at 11:35 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

"parents of the bullies"

August 27, 2014 at 3:44 p.m.
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