published Friday, August 29th, 2014

5-at-10: Friday mailbag

From Ted's drunken email (spelling has been corrected and curses removed) and several others on social media

Dude, I am so stoked college football is here.

Thanks for the Ole Miss pick -- nice start on the entertainment investment plan. Who do you like tonight?

(Also) What is your 'BIG story' from the first night Mr. Fancy Pants newspaper man?

Ted —

Thanks for the email — much better than a phone call all things considered. And have another.

You're welcome. (As for tonight, we think BYU is going to be very good this year and UConn is, well, Geno is not coaching them so there's that.)

Here are the four headlines we take away and one bonus for guys who pay attention to entertainment-investing-type things:

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    Vanderbilt coach James Franklin is doused by linebacker Chase Garnham (36) after they defeated Houston 41-24 in the BBVA Compass Bowl NCAA college football game in Birmingham, Ala.
    Photo by Associated Press /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

James Franklin was confirmed as the best coach in the history of the free world that does not include Saban. Holy Schnikees, did you see the egg Vandy laid? Franklin took them to record-setting heights not seen in the 80 years of the SEC. He's been gone eight months and Vandy goes right back to being Vandy. Wow.

Kevin Sumlin can flat coach some offense. Texas A&M torched South Carolina, and the gap between the West and the East — A&M was picked fifth in the West; South Carolina was picked to win the East — continues to grow.

Bo Wallace giveth and he taketh. Ole Miss fans better buckle up, the ride with the INT-prone senior quarterback is going to be bumpy. (Side note: We asked for a Rushmore of Wallace on Twitter — @jgreesontfp — last night and have settled on William, Marsellus, Mike and Marcia. Thoughts?) Did anyone else feel like the games were moving in slow motion last night? Egad. The Ole Miss-Boise State game just ended. Also, hope you enjoyed your time as relevant Boise State.

The Mocs let what sounded like a winnable game slip through their fingers. Stewwie, we'll say it for you: Close does not count this year and they are going to have to figure out a way to finish in big situations. Yes, they were on the road against a team that paid them $300K (thanks for those stats MT), but they had control and found a way to fall short. As TFP UTC football ace Stephen Hargis noted this morning, the Jax State game next week is H-U-G-E on a ton of different levels. (Side note: We thought Hargis was aces last night and you can follow his coverage here and with the #tfpUTC all year.)

Finally, the early bad-best story of the first Thursday of the season: Tulsa covered -6 in a double-overtime 38-31 win that not only worked the only way possible under the overtime rules (Tulsa scoring first, kicking the extra point and then holding Tulane out of the end zone) but was allowed to continue when Andrew DiRocco missed a 21-yard field goal in the final minutes. Ouch-standing.

Entertainment for everyone.


From BillyinBrainerd

What were Butch Jones' 1st + 2nd year records at CMU + Cincinnati? Brian Kelly probably left him more at those 2 schools than Doo-little left him at UT. Thanks.

BiB —

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    UTC fullback Taharin Tyson and the rest of the Mocs are fired up to start the season after just missing the FCS playoffs last year.
    Photo by Doug Strickland /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

Your Mocs were close last night. Very close. Close enough to wonder what if, you know?

Butch had three conference titles in his six seasons before coming to UT.

He won titles in years 1 and 3 of his three-year stay at Central Michigan and in years 2 and 3 of his three-year stint at Cincinnati.

And yes, we believe Brian Kelly left the cupboard way more stacked in way more forgiving leagues than what Heir Dooley did.

Chopping Bamboo.


From Scott

I have started reading the 5@10 after listening to you and Paschall on ESPN. Man, you are hilarious.

I was wondering if you saw the Grantland bracket on the best Saturday Night Live cast members? It is pretty cool.

They picked a final four of Hartman, Murphy, Ferrell and Bill Hader. Who do you have on your Rushmore of SNL cast members?

Thanks and keep up the good work on the radio -- you guys are great.

Scott —

We did see the Grantland bracket and must note that they grouped the cast by years, so that's how Bill Hader advanced to the Final Four.

It's also to note which way you are going to rank the cast. Are we ranking them completely on their SNL days or are we using their post-SNL success as part of it too?

We'll be back with our list for both. This is like a fine wine, and can't be rushed more. (See what we did there?)


From SportsFan

Jay - Let's change it up a bit for the mailbag. Let's call it a mailbag challenge. No. Not an ice bucket challenge. I recall your have a degree in English from AU. Can you publish a football haiku in the Friday mailbag? Bonus points for a Rushmore of haiku. Have a great week.

Here's a baseball haiku to get the ball rolling:

Ball hurtles to plate

Cowhide and thread spins through air

Uggla swings and misses

SportsFan —

We're in on the Haiku Challenge. (Side note: We got a Public Administration degree from the Lovliest College on the Plains.)

Our football Haiku:

Kickoff gives promise

Saturday means believing

Tears or joy follow

As for a Rushmore, let's do a Rushmore of football Haikus from some infamous football folks. Deal? Deal.

Dexter Manley's

Uh, hitting people

Reading is fundamental

Still hitting people

Les Miles'

The want to make plays

Defines our Tigers' wanting

To be our Tigers

Lou Holtz's

Ssssaturday ssstarts soon

Ttthhhat's great newssss for everyone

Even goofball Mark May

Josh Gordon's

I was going to

Make some big plays but I got high

Pass the Doritos


From TennFlyer

Since this weekend is the first weekend of college football, can you do your annual SEC draft. Same rules - bottom to top, teams can lose no more than 2 players (more if you do a second round again).


We love this question. And remember, age factors into this every bit as much as area of need and talent. Case in point our No. 1 overall pick may surprise you.

Arkansas — Admittedly we do not know as much as we should about the Hogs, other than one Press Row caller has started calling their coach "Bulimia" which is kind of funny on several levels. That said, with the way Arkansas likes to run first, last and always, the Hogs take LSU freshman running back Leonard Fournette.

Kentucky — The Wildcats are building so another young player will come off the board here. Kentucky has a huge hole at corner. Combine those two and we see Stoops taking Alabama freshman corner Tony Brown. (And yes, two kids that have never stepped on the field are the first two players off the board.)

Tennessee — Alabama freshman tackle Cam Robinson. Three rebuilding teams, three true freshmen off the board.

Ole Miss — This is a little different. While offensive line is a concern — and we're far from sold on the first three quarters when Bo Wallace looked more like Marcia Wallace than William Wallace — we see Hugh Freeze foaming at the mouth to add Todd Gurley to that offense.

Florida — There is not a QB in the league worthy of going this high — although Kenny Hill at Texas A&M sure looked the part last night. (Side note: Can we stop the Kenny Football now? Please? Thank you.) Florida would love a difference maker on the perimeter too and since Will Muschamp has to win like yesterday, the Tide lose three of the first five picks as Florida takes Amari Cooper.

Mississippi State — Another team that is a couple of difference makers away from a potentially big-time season. They take Vernon Hargreaves, the sophomore corner from Florida

Texas A&M — The Aggies may be players sooner rather than later after Thursday's showing in Columbia. Wow. That defense still needs some help, so they take Robert Nkemdiche, the Ole Miss defensive line monster.

Vandy — They appeal the commissioner to try to draft James Franklin back but are informed that is not allowed. Heart-broken and stunned by the 37-7 beatdown from lowly Temple, Vandy candles its picks and celebrates the success of baseball and academics.

LSU — Les Miles sends an email wanting to know if Bennie Blades, Gerald Grass or Mark "Weeds" Wiedmer are available. Sorry Coach, but no. So the Tigers boss takes Kenny Hill after a dazzling showing Thursday. Overreaction? Maybe, but we believe Les is more.

Georgia — The Bulldogs pick Ole Miss wide out Laquon Treadwell, who upon arriving to Athens, gets in trouble with the authorities, gets dismissed and transfers to Auburn.

South Carolina — Spurrier, after blowing a gasket after the debacle that was Thursday night, asks about picking Jadeveon Clowney. He's off the board Coach. Knowing the Gamecocks needs are huge, he decides to take Florida's Dante Fowler so maybe South Carolina can get a sack this year

Alabama — Saban picks Myles Garrett because he was the only five-star player last year that he really wanted that he didn't get. So there's that.

Missouri — Gary Pinkel, looking to replace the river of receptions he lost from last year's miracle, looks to the future and present and takes Tennessee's Marquez North.

Auburn — We think Auburn would look long at some of the young wide outs and maybe a young QB. But a team ranked No. 6 in the country and a little thin at safety, we think Auburn would pick Tony Conner, the Ole Miss safety.

Crazy huh, that Ole Miss was second team with the maximum three players off the board and none of them were Laremy Tunsil.

Round two this afternoon.

about Jay Greeson...

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jomo11 said...

Vandy should know that when you play late at night OWLS are very effective . . . . . . .the big question is, how could South Carolina ranked in the top 10 get hammered like that ?. . . .with Vandy and South Carolina's performance the East of the SEC ( the greatest conference of all-time, that ever lived and ever will be ) looks pretty weak

August 29, 2014 at 10:08 a.m.
chas9 said...

Who saw that coming? Appears that the top four SEC teams are from the west half. Price of tickets to A&M's dates with Bama and Auburn just doubled. And Sumlin's stock went up, too. If Stevie doesn't find a defense fast, it'll be Gawga or Mizzou winning the east.

Anchor down, Commodore! It's not just the anchor that's down, it's the whole fleet. Terrific Temple hadn't beaten an SEC team in 80 years. (Good line about owls, jomo.)

Now we know Kentucky's climb up the SEC ladder starts with the Vandy rung.

Fantastic doggerel. More, please. And what does "Public Admin" qualify you for?

No, there's no stopping Kenny Football.

Your draft is fun. Last evening's game suggests the Aggies could also well draft a speedier safety.

August 29, 2014 at 10:33 a.m.
Stewwie said...

[Stewwie, we'll say it for you: Close does not count this year and they are going to have to figure out a way to finish in big situations.]

Heck, close didn't count last year. Well, to some of us anyway.

I am concerned about Jacob as a QB. To be fair, let's wait until the FCS competition first. But I had a better feeling about him after his performance against South Florida two years ago than against that team last night. And I don't think Central Michigan is as good as South Florida was. What did Hargis say, 9 total yards for us in the 2nd half last night? We've got to be better than that.

I was hoping to hear Russ go on a Denny Green-like rant after the game. "We let 'em off the hook!" Lol.

August 29, 2014 at 10:33 a.m.
JonathanMCook said...

I'm not going to lie, other then a less then a handful plays and hand to the face foul on Davis Tull that was clearly 100% HORSE&^%$!, the defense was steller. Not going to lie again: The offense PLAYED like the COWBOYS!

(that is not a complement)

If that happens again, Russ needs to make Jacob wear a jersey that says Romo on it (because there was absolutely no difference whatsoever! >.<

August 29, 2014 at 10:34 a.m.
jomo11 said...

By the way Stewwie, i want to admit that I am wrong about something I said the other day . . .I agree with you Utah State will probably be in the College Football Final 4 playoff this year, I beleive they are that good !

August 29, 2014 at 10:39 a.m.
Stewwie said...

Jacob = Romo? Ouch.

What's the injury report for Shafaat and Rayl?

August 29, 2014 at 10:40 a.m.
Stewwie said...

Jomo, I said they are a decent foe. If you take that to mean they are a Final Four team, well, that's on you.

August 29, 2014 at 10:41 a.m.
dawg747 said...

Ten Cup: Great draft. You like the draft we know!

Last night UTC was just being UTC. Close but no cigar. They need a winning attitude and a win over a program they are NOT supposed to beat. A good start would be next week against JSU. That could help them in so many ways.

Great weekend coming up. Ringgold Tigers football tonight, THE Georgia Bulldawgs tomorrow afternoon and watching other college football all weekend.

Keep up the great work!

August 29, 2014 at 10:54 a.m.
JonathanMCook said...

Stewwie - The good news (by football standards) is Shafaat and Rayl got more "banged-up" then anything. While it is wait and see, Russ has stated they will be on the field for Jax State. So they're not done for the season. Still, while nothing is guaranteed, a win against an FBS opponent not in the fatcat five would have all but assured a three near filled Finley. Now we're back to wait and see.

August 29, 2014 at 11:16 a.m.
fechancellor said...

Derek Mason got some of what he deserved last night. More beat downs to follow. The Tennessee brain trust must be drying off some flop sweat now they are one win closer to six. What was with that "Anchor Down" on the back of the Jersey? "Going Down" seems the more accurate descriptive. How about "Chico's Bail Bonds" for next week?

August 29, 2014 at 11:22 a.m.
jomo11 said...

Dawg747 just curious who have the Dawgs beat in the last 3 years that they werent supposed to beat ?

August 29, 2014 at 11:26 a.m.
JonathanMCook said...

Well there is some good news. Assuming Jacob quits the Romo mindset and everyone stays healthy at practice, there is zero competition and a double/header for those wishing to go to Knoxville on Saturday and then haul "rhymes with grass" down I-75 (I know a couple of people who did for basketball).

Chattanooga vs. Jax State: 6:00 PM Tennessee vs. Arkansas State: 12:00 PM Alabama vs. Florida Atlantic: 12:00 PM Georgia - BYE

August 29, 2014 at 11:28 a.m.
Stewwie said...


Good to know about those guys.

I noticed UTC staggered the start times for home games this year presumably to avoid competing with expected TN start times. Kind of a guessing game for sure, but it might be better than before.

August 29, 2014 at 11:40 a.m.
JonathanMCook said...

Stewwie- I picked up on the stagger-step (good phrasing). For those not following, the first 3-4 games appear to be night games (5-6-7PM start times) while the rest are daytime. Makes sense.

August 29, 2014 at 12:20 p.m.
dawg747 said...

Jomo11: I forget what team do you pull for?

2 years ago were not supposed to beat South Carolina , Florida or Auburn but we did. We also played for the SEC championship that year. We weren't supposed to beat LSU last year. It is also hard to beat teams with a defensive coordinator who has no clue.

By the way I graduated from UTC so I would love more than anything to see them win.

August 29, 2014 at 3:39 p.m.
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