published Friday, February 7th, 2014

Homophobia: The pandemic — and more letters to the editors

Homophobia: The pandemic

Bible-minded? The Bible is a trophy on the shelf.

Instead of learning the meaning of scripture we listen to the culture, e.g., we all are born with our sexuality: We don't control that.

My research reveals: 1. The Old Testament lists as morally wrong: child sexual abuse, rape (the Sodom and Gomorrah story is about gang rape and disobedience), adultery, incest, etc., not homosexuality. If you use Leviticus 18 to target one practice you must target all of it; 2. Jesus did not address homosexuality; 3. Our misinterpretation of New Testament teaching on sexuality involves two words -- "natural" and "unnatural" (Romans).

If you're born heterosexual it's natural you cohabit with a person of the opposite sex. If you're born homosexual it's natural you cohabit with a person of the same sex.

Faith leaders must teach truth to congregants. Instead, we have created a pandemic known as homophobia.

The above is the root cause of the disease. It's the responsibility of each person to deal with this disease. This pandemic must be eradicated.

MATT NEVELS


Officials should step up on storms

The governor of Georgia, the mayor of Atlanta, and the director of the state's emergency management agency should all lose their jobs; I mean paychecks.

They do not seem to know they have a job to do to get that paycheck. Such incompetence!

And now they are going to appoint a "board" to do their job for them! I wonder how much that "board" is going to cost us.

With my experience with "boards," I say it will be three days after a storm hits before we know it is coming.

The weather forecasters are not without fault. They hype up and dramatize every little breeze that blows over the mountain to the extent that no one pays any attention to them any more. It's all just hype, hype, hype and drama, drama, drama!

Whatever happened to the "just the facts, ma'am, just the facts"?

KATHERINE SCOTT, Rossville


Get government out of our lives

Heat is not the only thing being controlled by someone else.

Food prices are being manipulated at the grocery store, gas prices are set by speculators who could care less about the American people, the environment is controlled by activists who care more about a species of fish than the food produced by farmers, we now have mandated health care.

The Declaration of Independence states: all men are created equally, that we are endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

My pursuit of happiness is short sleeves in January and walking around barefoot in my home and this right was given to me by my creator and no government agency has the right to stop my freedom of choice.

ERNESTINE MEADOWS

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librul said...

Wow, Ernestine, you must be a real hoot at the breakfast table...

February 7, 2014 at 6:50 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Wow, gas prices are supposed to be set by the needs of the American people? That's a new on for me.

February 7, 2014 at 7:07 a.m.

A pandemic!LOL Yeah, that's what it is. This is the way it is, be who you want to be, this is the USA. There're countries around the world that execute Homosexuals, mostly Muslim Countries. Nobody in this country is stopping "gays" from doing what they want, be who they are, etc. It's as accepted as it will ever be in this country. What do you want? Gays are on sitcoms, they host tv shows, they're famous actors and politicians and athletes. What do you want? What's causing an issue is the obnoxious, in your face, and over the top campaign to force heterosexuals to accept that it's normal. It will never be, it is what it is. Gays in this country have it pretty good, pretty darn good. Go to various places, like Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia and Iran, and you will encounter official "homophobia".

If Christians believe that Homosexuality is a sin ,they have a right to believe that, and state it as loud as they want. Not believing homosexuality is normal, is not "homophobia". "Gays", the movement, in this country behave as if they live one of the Muslim countries. Go there and see what happens.

February 7, 2014 at 11:15 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Perhaps Christians should go so they can really understand what religious freedom (and freedom from other's religious beliefs) is all about.

February 7, 2014 at 11:37 a.m.
soakya said...

Why don't you enlighten everyone lkeitu and tell us what religious freedom is all about according to a progressive. And also explain the part about freedom from others religious beliefs.

February 7, 2014 at 11:50 a.m.
conservative said...

MATT NEVEL

Although you are strident in defending your behavior I sense you are struggling with the guilt and shame of Homosexuality/sodomy and that is a good thing.

Go to Scripture and see for yourself the condemnation God has proclaimed on those who practice Homosexuality/sodomy.

You can type "verses condemning Homosexuality" on a Google search and find the truth for yourself.

February 7, 2014 at 11:55 a.m.

Ike, you gotta be kidding? Where is that? What bugs you atheists so much about Christians? You hate when Christians say that they believe homosexuality is a sin. Why don't you go to Saudi Arabia and Iran and start a movement to condemn those Muslim run governments for their execution of homosexuals and their attacks on other religions?

February 7, 2014 at noon

Religious freedom exists in this country, not in many others, and you know it.

February 7, 2014 at 12:01 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

Zableed, just because we don't stone or behead gays here in America doesn't mean that we aren't still treating them like second-class citizens in other ways. Evolving to a state of true equality (under the law) among us and learning to accept our differences is a slow and gradual process, one that requires constant vigilance. And we still have a long way to go.

As for religious freedom, yes, we have a degree of religious freedom in this country, but for the past decade or so we have had a blurring of the lines of church and state, thanks to a faction of Tea Party religious nuts who have slithered into our government and attempted (succeeding in many ways) to force their backward beliefs on the rest of the nation. It is not Christians per se that we secularists object to but these radical clowns who are attempting to turn America into a theocracy. And unless we are vigilant against that there is a very real possibility of it happening.

February 7, 2014 at 1:06 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

What?? Instead of quoting from his Bible the con-man is telling someone to find the truth by... Googling it?? That's a first! Feeling a little under the weather maybe, c-man? Or is that Holy Spirit within you starting to go a little flat?

February 7, 2014 at 1:32 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

zab, it doesn't matter if your religion thinks homosexuality is a sin. The rest of us are not part of your religion, and it does not apply to us. THAT is what religious freedom is. Your freedom of religion ends where mine (and everyone else's) begins.

February 7, 2014 at 4:26 p.m.
conservative said...

MATT NEVEL

God is clear about Homosexuality/sodomy:

Leviticus 18:22 NASB ‘You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.

February 7, 2014 at 4:56 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Just one of the proofs against the 'Balderdash' that homosexuals have a 'gene' thingy that predisposes them to beastiality, or, child molestation, or, something.

Please Research 'Identical Twin Siblings and Homosexuality'. The Overwhelming and Conclusive Scientific Evidence Is As Follows: Identical Twin Siblings Come From The Very Same Ovum (egg) Of Their Biological Mother. 100% Of The Genetic Material, From The DNA, On Down, Is Identical. This Would Mean That All 'Genetic' Predispositions Would Be Identical. Yet, One Identical Twin Will Choose (Prefer) The Homosexual Behavior, But, His Sibling Will Choose The Preference Of Heterosexuality. The Overwhelming Rule Is For Each Identical Twin To Choose (Prefer) Different Sexual Lifestyles. If Homosexual Behavior Was Genetically Determined, Then, Both Identical Twins Would "ALWAYS" Be Homosexual. But, This Is Not The Case. We Could Then Begin To Develop Tests To Identify Genetic Tags (Markers) To Help Nations Decrease The Catastrophic Cost Of Treating, Housing, Counseling, and, Otherwise Paying For The HIV/AIDS Infected Individuals Who Choose (Prefers) The Homosexual Behavioral Lifestyle.

For the prevaricating and misinformed, I shall expose copy number variations in another comment. Then, please admit that You are a 'Pleasure Sexual' and not a born-homosexual [duplicity}!

Ken ORR

February 7, 2014 at 9:14 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

I Did An Exhaustive, In-Depth University Study Of All Of The World's Great Religions and How They View Homosexuality. Without Exception, They All Forbid Homosexual Behavior and Consider This Lifestyle Choice An Aberration (Disorder In One's Mental State). Also, It Is Indicated Within The World's Great Religions That The Homosexual Lifestyle Is Against The Laws Of Nature. Be Advised That There Are Very Good Reasons For The Nations and Their Respective Religions to View The Homosexual Preference With This Wisdom.

Ken Orr

February 7, 2014 at 9:20 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Go away, Ken Orr. Focus on correcting your obsession about other people's sex lives.

February 7, 2014 at 10:13 p.m.
Plato said...

"gas prices are set by speculators who could care less about the American people. . . "

That statement isn't true but by stating it, the writer is essentially reciting classic Marxist/Socialist criticism of a capitalistic system.

Those Tea Party folks are really funny once they get going. This one is almost as good as "No government heath insurance and keep your hands off my Midicare" :)

February 7, 2014 at 10:20 p.m.
Plato said...

The tendency of a person towards homosexuality is a result of a strong male soul becoming reincarnated into a female or vice versa. The person struggles with the conflict between the soul and the physical reality of themselves. Sometimes one or the other ultimately wins but frequently they become bisexual (sexual attraction or sexual behavior toward both males and females).

This explanation settles once and for all the nature vs. nurture arguments about the causes of homosexuality - it's neither.

BTW the majority of religions worldwide except reincarnation as fact, and reincarnation was actually part of the Christian religion until Constantine had it removed.

Go argue that.

February 7, 2014 at 10:29 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

You are indeed astute, Plato!

Jesus Christ said: "43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and THE LAST STATE OF THAT MAN IS WORSE THAN THE FIRST. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation."

Saint Matthew 12:43-45

February 8, 2014 at 12:11 a.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Yes, Plato, Yes even Constantine knew the Truth of Holy Bible Scripture: Behold!

Hebrews 9:27 "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:" 26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of The Truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, WHO HATH TRODDEN UNDER FOOT THE SON OF GOD, AND HATH COUNTED THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT, WHEREWITH HE WAS SANCTIFIED, AN UNHOLY THING, AND HATH DONE DESPITE UNTO THE SPIRIT OF GRACE? 30 For we know Him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto Me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge His people. 31 IT IS A FEARFUL THING TO FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE LIVING GOD."

Hebrews 0:26-31

All Authorized King James Version

February 8, 2014 at 12:39 a.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

The Holy Word of God says; "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools!"

February 8, 2014 at 12:45 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

Ken Orr...funny how, according to you Christians, all the other "Great religions" of the world are wrong, so wrong in fact that those who practice them are going to hell. Yet in an attempt to strengthen your specious argument about homosexuality, you mention them as if they are bastions of morality and righteousness. If they can't get it right about what God or savior to believe in (or so you Christians claim), then how is your argument made any stronger by bringing up their beliefs about homosexuality or anything else for that matter? You Christians are a hoot. Not only do you cherry-pick from your Bible, you cherry pick from other religions, too - whatever it takes to try to defend your cockamamie beliefs that are inherently indefensible.

February 8, 2014 at 4:33 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

People are suffering all over the world of curable diseases, oppression, hunger, violence and all you seem to care about is sex between men, Ken Orr. Pretty sad.

February 8, 2014 at 7:31 a.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Rickaroo

The Word of Truth, The Scripture of The Holy Bible reveals that; "Even the devils believe {in YHWH, Jesus Christ} and tremble". Therefore it may only be logical that even the most insedious of evil beings know how abberant and against nature is homosexuality.

God The Father's Word became flesh and dwelt among us as Jesus Christ on earth. You cannot be separated from Your spoken word, or, thoughts (Logos). What if, though, You could cause flesh to cover Your words/thoughts...not a whole lot different than cloaning. God, The Father...God, The Son, God, The Holy Ghost. He wants You to come Home.......not to go into eternal destruction in Hell, Fire and Brimstone. "In the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with God, and The Word was God...14 And The Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."

St. John Chapter 1 kjv

DON'T PLAY WITH YOUR ETERNAL SOUL! COME BACK HOME BEFORE IT IS EVERLASTINGLY TOO LATE!

Ken ORR

February 8, 2014 at 11:43 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

Ken Orr... Regarding Constantine: If he knew the Holy Scripture to be the "truth" he certainly didn't live it. He was a ruthless ruler who, throughout his entire life, even after his "conversion," killed rivals, family members, anyone who stood in his way, in order to ensure his rise to power. What's more, even his decision to make Rome, or the part of Rome that he ruled at the time, Christian, was merely a militarily and politically expeditious one. He even delayed his baptism until the very end of his life because he was not about to be inconvenienced by being "born again." Constantine might have embraced certain tenets of Christianity - the ones that didn't inconvenience him - but he was nothing but a duplicitous opportunist his entire life.

But then, I can see why many Christians, especially you fundamentalists, might admire someone like Constantine. He was the quintessential Christian "soldier" - with heavy emphasis on the soldier part and complete disregard for the love and compassion part.

February 8, 2014 at 11:50 a.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Yes, Yes! lkeithlu!

Yet, i am also crushed in sympathy with those homosexual individuals who have contracted the 'incurable' disease HIV/AIDS. This is the monster of human decay, agonizing, cruel pain/shame and wasting away of brain and the soul. I love, honor and give absolute respect to every person who meets this horrible end of life on earth. Why, why, oh why does anyone desire to block my attempts of warning individuals to FLEE this culture of shameful death...the 'chosen/preferred life/deathstyle known as homosexuality? Why attempt to prevent me from being a 'First Responder', or, rescuer of those i genuinely love with an everlasting love? Jesus Christ, my Lord, God, and Saviour said; "A new commandment I give unto You, that You should love one another."

Ken ORR

February 8, 2014 at 11:58 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

There is no "home" for me to come back to, Mr. Orr. I have been there, done that, didn't like it, ain't never going back. Where I am right now is my home.

I only hope that one day you will be brave enough to dare to look outside your little box of narrow belief and see the true light. You live in a bubble of false faith and it is smothering you. Once you break it open and see the light of day it becomes more and more clear how false that faith is. You have traded living in the here and now for what you think is "eternal life" in the hereafter. You might think that is a small price to pay for "salvation." I happen to think that you have already lost your soul.

February 8, 2014 at 12:03 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

No, Ken, you are obsessed with the sex lives of gay men. Plain and simple. You don't appear to care about anything else. You are a sick individual, probably gay yourself, who fears your own sexuality. You also use religion as a way to justify this obsession.

February 8, 2014 at 2:12 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Nicely put Ikeithlu. Ken Orr acts to be on a crusade to save the homosexuals, but I think it's just a ploy to satisfy his male sexual cravings. It's the only time he pops up; he sees the word "homosexual", his gaydar rings, and he starts graphically discussing anal. Face it Ken, you're gay. The only person you may be fooling is yourself.

February 8, 2014 at 2:29 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Jesus Christ is Lord over Hamilton County also.

The homosexual agenda may succeed somewhere else.......but NOT in Hamilton County! NEVER! Enemies of the Cross of Calvary must deal with The King of Glory, Jesus Christ of Nazareth. The shed blood of Jesus Christ is infinitely more powerful than the homosexual agenda. According to the Library of Congress 'Homosexual Manifesto', our little Children are a preferred target of those involved with the homosexual agenda.

Ken ORR

February 8, 2014 at 7:03 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Come out of the closet, Ken Orr.

February 9, 2014 at 8:23 a.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Misery, indeed, loves company. One of the most pitifully pathetic ploys utilized by many homosexual individuals is to imagine that 'everyone' is homosexual. they practice a potentially deadly and, what some lable 'abberant' (against nature), behavior. So, this helps them to feel better about themselves. My sympathy goes out to them. I'm reminded of the little child who believes he is not being observed stealing cookies from the jar. Or, "The Emperor is wearing no clothes". This ruse is ealily seen by the intelligent individual.

Ken ORR

February 9, 2014 at 8:54 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Come out of the closet, Ken Orr. Your "gays think everyone else is gay" doesn't apply to me. I'm straight. But your obsession with the minute details of gay male sex is over the top. You are most certainly gay and are doing everything you can to deny this. Of course, I may be wrong and you are simply a pervert who obsesses with everyone's sex life, gay or straight. Call it whichever you want.

February 9, 2014 at 1:32 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Please try to understand, lkeithlu , it is not the sex lives that is my focus. I can understand why it seems that way to You. My focus is on Our Thrice Holy God, Jesus Christ, who has decreed irrefutable laws for our existence. I only try to expound upon the probable/possible reasons YHWH would decree such laws. As an example, it is a universal law of Jesus that unforgiven practicing homosexuals will die and go to everlasting hell. I try to produce reasons, even for my own understanding, that The Lord God of Hosts would decree such a thing! Our Heavenly Father also decreed that it is He who judges such individuals and that we are out of order to try to judge homosexual individuals. I could care less, otherwise, about their sex lives. Different private sexual behavior makes different people sick to their stomachs to even think/know about these behaviors. Other people like the same things. I could care less. I just want people happy and blessed. Being happy and blessed is impossible when practicing a behavior that will be punished by Our Creator. I don't know why YHWH says, "Do this! Don't do That!". Yet, I try to think of some possible reasons why, then share them with others over The Chattanooga Times Free Press Editorial Comment Section!

Much Love to You and Everyone else,

Ken ORR

February 11, 2014 at 7:08 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

No, it is the sex. The mechanics of the sex. The sex ACT that you are obsessed with, Ken Orr.

February 11, 2014 at 12:55 p.m.
dao1980 said...

Oh yeah, Ken is definitely the gayest poster that I've ever read. Yep, Ken likes the men, everyone can clearly see that from miles away.

February 17, 2014 at 2:09 p.m.
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