published Tuesday, June 17th, 2014

The Conflict

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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fairmon said...

It is all about oil in Iraq with oil resources all going to those in control of the government. The U.S. will intervene if the oil supply is threatened. Those in Washington keep people distracted as the country keeps on the down hill slide of U.S. business tax revenue and jobs.

The acquisition of Covidien by Medtronic for $42.9 billion shifts Medtronic's executive headquarters to Ireland from Minneapolis. After the deal is complete, Medtronic will face "a 12.5 percent corporate tax rate rather than the 35 percent rate here. Several similar moves by U.S. based businesses to follow. Keep beating up on those terrible businesses that provide thousands of good jobs. We can eventually run all of them off then politicians will have to attack or blame someone else to stir up voters to get votes.

June 17, 2014 at 5:23 a.m.
emsprater said...

The Iraq war was all about oil. The conflict in Iraq between it's inhabitants is all about religion and tribalism. 'We' can never 'fix' this situation, and 'we' should never have gone there in the first place.

Trying to tie tax rates (which are never paid due to cuts, incentives, loopholes and etc) to this is ludicrous. It doesn't help fairmom, that your information is not even correct: in 2013 Medtronics' effective tax rate (what it actually paid) was 18.4% and Covidens' effective tax rate for 2013 was 21.1%. My figures are from the WSJ and Forbes magazines. Corporations move offshore to shield shareholder dividends, also as reported by Forbes.

June 17, 2014 at 8:18 a.m.

We have plenty of oil right here. We don't need their oil. They're at war with each other, and with anyone who isn't a Muslim. It's the ultimate no win situation. As long as Islam is in control of the region, then there never will be freedom. We should do what we can to combat terrorism, but in general just leave them to themselves.

BO just sent troops to Iraq to protect our embassy. That's fine, I guess he doesn't want another Benghazi situation. Then get the hell out of there.

June 17, 2014 at 8:33 a.m.
fairmon said...

emsprater...MDT only pays a 1.8% dividend and this inversion does not help those receiving them unless they are increased as a result of the reduced taxes. That same WSJ will also report that the incentive is the reduced corporate tax rate. MDT used billions of their off shore cash plus stock to make the purchase versus repatriate it and pay the 35% rate.

The tribe in power has the oil rich parts of the country and the other has essentially none and the one in power is not allowing the other to participate. So, it is still about oil and tribal differences with the attackers supporting Sharia law which goes back to killing, beheading, no women's rights, etc. etc. Do you ever wonder how they are so well armed and have unlimited ammo?

You do know governments get more revenue as long as the demand doesn't drop off proportionally. I own several oil stocks with a trailing stop loss so the more gas goes up the more I make to pay for my gas plus a little.

Eliminating all tax deductions or other exceptions with a revised tax rate with a 15% corporate rate on all profits would avoid all the manipulation and be like a booster shot to the economy but too many politicians are influenced or owned by special interest.

June 17, 2014 at 8:45 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

fairmon, please get on-topic.

fister, we run a surplus on oil production but if the price rises, it will rise here also, so whether we "need" foreign oil or not, "foreign oil" determines the price of oil here.We would be far better off to move away from an oil economy towards more environmentally friendly and locally available energy resources. As far as Islam having something to do with it, that is a red herring, the problem is oil, and the problem is "splinter" states.

Back on-topic, the cartoon in its own way bemoans this reality: The Levant including Palestine historically has never, I mean NEVER, had a unifying political unity save dictatorships whose tenure is always finite. The states that have been continually fighting for the last few millennia are Egypt, Israel, Persia and minor states of Syria, Greece/Macedonia and the unforunate European crusades. Sunni/Shiite is just a "recent" manifestation of it.

What all this bears on the USA is that the tea party and some radicals in the Democratic party want to go down the same road of demonizing their opponent(s) into an "either/or" conflict, so we degenerate into chaos just like Iraq, Iran, Israel and sunni/shiite. We need to stop supplying baby pins and dentists.

June 17, 2014 at 9:19 a.m.

inq, there is no "environmentally friendly" anything that can replace oil any time soon. Not even on the horizon. You libs need to face that. Oil makes the world work, period. If not for oil, we would have nothing.

Islam is a "red herring?" Islam controls, what, billions of people. Literally controls them. Keeps them oppressed and mostly in poverty.

The modern state of Israel doesn't matter a hill of beans, you libs just focus on it because you have a problem with Jews, and are afraid of Muslims..and for good reason. They could wipe out Israel tomorrow and nothing will change. They'll celebrate for a week, then go back to killing each other and everyone else. The modern state of Israel has not been around for the last "few millennia". Israel is scapegoat for you libs.

What does the Tea Party have to do with anything. I thought they were irrelevant? They're not a party, and they have no power to do anything. You know nothing about the Tea Party. You libs try and bring them into everything. What does a group of folks, or mindset, which would like government accountability, secure borders, our Constitution respected and our freedoms respected, have to to do with this?

"demonize" You gotta be kidding? Islam does a pretty good job of demonizing themselves, and has for "few millennia". Beheading, slaughter of millions and millions, terrorism, convert or die. They've earned their reputation. Oil is recent thing, Islam was on rampage long before oil came on the scene.

June 17, 2014 at 9:38 a.m.
joepulitzer said...

This whole thing gives me gas.

June 17, 2014 at 9:45 a.m.

Yeah, Joe, very painful gas.

June 17, 2014 at 9:55 a.m.

Another example of the peace and tranquility from religious fundamentalism.

All that's needed are the Christian Fundy-NutZ dressed like Jesus joining the fray on another Christian Crusade.

June 17, 2014 at 9:59 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

IQ says "What all this bears on the USA is that the tea party and some radicals in the Democratic party want to go down the same road of demonizing their opponent(s).." That's curious talk coming from the spokesman of the Deemonizing Dems.

June 17, 2014 at 10:01 a.m.

Not going to fly allah. No comparison. Islam is responsible for nearly all the conflict in the world in the year 2014.

Jack, yeah. To drag the Tea Party into this is really reaching for it. Oil, Tea Party, environmentalism, and Israel. Get them all in.

Israel is the only sane country in the middle east.

June 17, 2014 at 10:22 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

True, Zab. Jordan is semi-sane. And ISIS is eager to gobble it up.

June 17, 2014 at 10:31 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

fister sez, "The modern state of Israel has not been around for the last 'few millennia'. Israel is scapegoat for you libs....What does the Tea Party have to do with anything. I thought they were irrelevant? "

Israel has been around a few milllenia, as has Judah. Israel was conquered by Assyria, then Judah and Israel by Babylon who was rapidly done in by Persia(Iran) about 2500 years ago, followed soon thereafter by Greece (Alexander) who was followed by the Roman Empire about 2,000 years ago, then the Islamic empire culminating in the Ottoman Empire(Turkey) then the Nazis, then Britain and France who tried to re-engineer countries out of chaos. Neither Israel or Judah has ever returned to its "former glory," establishing itself using terrorism and political/religious repression. I have no problem with modern Israel other than noting its foundation on terrorism and the hypocrisy of its modern secular state compared to its theological underpinning. (Of course we could say the same thing about the USA).

Within the GOP, the tea party is an example of what happens when one group decides to demonize another over belief, e.g., Cantor/Brat. The tea party and the GOP together as is the extreme party of the dems are another example of that demonization. You yourself, or one of your brothers in arms have called President Obama, "Satan." That sounds pretty much like the ISIS Islamic talk to me.

If you read up on Islam, including talking to a few Muslims, you will find the religious strife between Sunni/Shia is not all that different Catholic/Protestant schism and the modern fundamentalist/Reformed Christian strife. In early America, if you were Catholic, Baptist, you were quite careful about the state you lived in. If you read your history you will realize Islam is not "a few millennia" old, but maybe 1500 years.

If Islam "literally" controls its adherents what do you propose we do with American Muslims?

June 17, 2014 at 10:37 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

IQ, I haven't heard of any Methodists beheading Catholics lately.

On another note, we should worry more about open borders than Iraq.

June 17, 2014 at 10:50 a.m.

As I said, the modern state of Israel goes back to 1948.

The only religion in the year 2014 that poses a threat to the world is Islam. Many terrible things have been done in the name of Christianity, and other religions, but over the centuries the extremists in those religions have faded away, and have been denounced. The only religion that has not "evolved", if you want to call it that, is Islam. There're many millions of Muslims who do not kill, or threaten kill, but violence and oppressive acts dominate Islam around the world.

Cantor/Brat? Brat beat Cantor because the people in his district didn't like that he was going along with Dems in looking the other way on the illegal alien invasion. BO's attitude/"our future rests with "dreamers"/illegal aliens is repulsive to millions of US citizens. Immigrants who come in the lawful/proper way and US citizens who don't like the situation are not extremists, nor are they demonizing anyone. To bring up Cantor/Brat, and the Tea Party, into the same discussion as violent Islam is RIDICULOUS.

June 17, 2014 at 10:52 a.m.

Yeah, Jack, our open borders should be our primary concern. BO can send troops to Iraq, but why can't we have the military patrol our borders? Other countries do it. BO spoke at West Point and told them that they won't be sent into battle, and that they'll be needed in the battle with "climate change". But somehow our borders cannot be defended.

Bush unleashed hell in Afghanistan and Iraq, but he wasn't able to assign a couple of thousand troops to our borders? It's crap to say that our border is so long that it's hard to defend, total crap...We have technology and manpower. Our government has chosen to put US citizens in danger.

June 17, 2014 at 11:01 a.m.
TheJackDennis said...

^^ last sentence, Zab, I would add because of feel-good politics.

June 17, 2014 at 11:05 a.m.

yeah, feel good politics..that's it.

June 17, 2014 at 12:13 p.m.

I think there's going to be a huge backlash for all kinds of things. The skyrocketing price of food, energy, coddling of illegal aliens, "climate change"/the fatigue of the doomsday things with that, the unemployment/underemployment mess, and problems down the road with is Obamacare.

The Dems are in trouble. I don't think Hellcat is going to run. She's going to inherit a huge mess if she wins. Who else do Dems have.. BO wannabes. The GOP is rudderless, but they'll gain just becuause the Dems suck so bad.

June 17, 2014 at 12:20 p.m.

I can actually see BO using a military conflict to take attention away from the mess here.

June 17, 2014 at 12:31 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...
<p> - The Internal Revenue Service has told Congress that many of the emails to and from Lois Lerner were lost in a computer crash in 2011. "You've never heard of a computer crashing before?" White House spokesman Josh Earnest said on Monday, when a reporter asked if that was a "reasonable explanation." This cat is out carneying Jay Carney. Deception is rule #1 with this administration

June 17, 2014 at 12:56 p.m.

That's laughable.

They have back ups of back ups. What about the emails received on other computers? They all crashed to. I heard that Eisenhower ordered all government agencies to have multiple record of things, and that was long, long before computers were in use.

June 17, 2014 at 1:01 p.m.
timbo said...

inquiringmind...This is not about oil. It is about ignorant, religious people holding grudges for thousands of years. They live by the feud and with or without oil they would fight. The only people they hate worse than each other is us.

Alternate energy is not ready for prime time. This environmental hogwash you guys go to for every situation is ridiculous. Every time there is a war, storm, or heat wave, cold snap, you blame global warming which then goes right to alternate energy.

That being said, this is a hard one. The libertarian in me agrees with you. We need to run from this as fast as possible because they will always end up fighting after we leave. The pragmatic part of me says that if we don't fight now, we will pay for it later with a much bigger war or another 911 type attack. I hope the libertarian side wins.

This is the fault of Bush that attacked Iraq and Obama for not leaving soldiers there.

I just don't know..

June 17, 2014 at 2 p.m.
fairmon said...

If the U.S. is to be involved then to hell with worrying about collateral damage. 9/11 was collateral damage. Make the area where the terrorist are a leveled smoking desert with no living creature living therefore not suffering. We spend billions making bombs to handle various situations, use them then over use them.

If no one bought their oil they couldn't afford the weapons and would be back to throwing rocks at each other.

June 17, 2014 at 3:15 p.m.

The fault goes way back when the U.K. started meddling in the Middle East long, long ago. Just leave them to themselves.

fairmon, yeah, we can pinpoint exactly where they are, and incinerate them. The Taliban, ISIS and AL Quada can all be wiped out with virtually no men on the ground.

June 17, 2014 at 3:43 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

fairmon, like I said, you do Curtis LeMay and Goldwater justice.

Timbo, it really is about oil in my opinion, what else is threatened by the unrest in Iraq? THe subject of anther forum, but there are some feasible and promising alternatives to oil. On your comment about religious grudges, I agree that 'religious people" hold grudges for a very long time. Fister-roo forgets(or does not know) that in the 1500's a German Catholic monarch would tie anabaptists to a chair and dunk them in water until they drowned, saying he was giving them their second baptism. And that in Virginia for some time you could not vote unless you were Episcopalian. The Catholic/Protestant fighting in this country persisted into the 1960's. I remember my Yellow Dog Grandfather worrying and fretting about voting the straight ticket when Jack Kennedy ran for president. Today we have fanatics who go down to UTC and wave the bible screaming at people walking by saying they are going to hell. We have "Christians (sic) wanting to stop Muslims from building temples, who label them the anti-Christ. Don't get to smug about there not being any serious religious bigotry left in the good old US of A.

And thank you I'd prefer NOT having the Military policing our internal affairs, we might end up like Egypt.

Oh by the way fister-roo, you did not answer the question: "If Islam "literally" controls its adherents what do you propose we do with American Muslims?" What about Catholics, doesn't the Pope control them?? Bishops are telling politicians that can't participate in communion unless they vote a certain way compatible with Catholic dogma. Ultra-conservative protestants tell women they are murderers if they have an abortion, tell wives they can't remarry if they get a divorce (for any reason). I'm sure your answer will not slide into bigotry.

June 17, 2014 at 3:53 p.m.

LOL inq you're laughable. You're comparing Bible thumpers to Islamic terrorists? Come on! Religious bigotry? Every religion thinks they're the correct religion. Once again, bringing up wrong doings from the past doesn't make Islam look any better.

There's a huge difference, if you don't know, between standing on street corner and saying if you don't repent you're going to hell, and beheading,bombing,flying planes into buildings, slaughtering anyone who won't convert. Every other religion seems to have moved on, except Islam.

"what should we do with American Muslims"?? Nothing! This country, like Israel, has religious freedom. Muslims have every right to worship as they please, the same as anyone else. America is different, or it has been, then the rest of the world. Around the world Muslims are very much being controlled, and put in their place. There is no freedom for them? The Pope? He doesn't control anyone. If someone decides to drop out of the Catholic Church, the Pope isn't going to send assassins after them to kill them. I can't say the same for Islam.

Catholics and protestants fought for centuries, but somehow now in Northern Ireland they've managed to back off or settle things. Can't say the same for Shiites and the Suni, or Islam and anyone who doesn't believe.

Saying what you believe, and not budging, is not the same as killing someone for not believing. You have to be kidding.

I will say that abortion is murder, and I have no problem saying that to anyone. That's what my belief is, and it's tough cookies if you don't like it. Believe what you want to believe.

June 17, 2014 at 4:28 p.m.

If you don't like what a religion stands for, what their guidelines are, and what they stand for, then leave. If a church will not permit it's members to divorce, remarry or have an abortion, then leave. Nobody is holding a gun to your head, unless it's Islam, of course.

Why would my answer slide into bigotry? I'm not a bigot.

Change religions until you find the one that agrees with you, instead of condemning that religion for not accommodating you.

Same with Islam. If you don't like it, may be risking your life, but you can try.

June 17, 2014 at 4:49 p.m.

Islam is the bully of religions. Men have virtually free reign to treat women worse than dogs. Catholicism's past is full of bullying, torture, wars and punishments. But, in the year 2014, Islam is still dominated around the world by Islamofascists. That's just a fact. Millions of Muslims are not threatening, but that doesn't matter at all because they do nothing to stop the extremists. Just like most Germans during the Hitler years were not threatening and didn't hate Jews, but that doesn't matter at all bedcause they did nothing to stop the Nazis

June 17, 2014 at 4:54 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

IQ, with all due respect, is so steeped in ideology that he can't possibly see another POV.

June 17, 2014 at 4:58 p.m.
una61 said...

These religious zealots have been hating each other longer than the U.S. has been a nation.

June 17, 2014 at 5:10 p.m.

Yeah, I guess so, Jack. It's a waste of time and wearing down my fingertips.

June 17, 2014 at 5:23 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

zipster sez, "Why would my answer slide into bigotry? I'm not a bigot." then goes on to say, "Islam is the bully of religions. Men have virtually free reign to treat women worse than the year 2014, Islam is still dominated around the world by Islamofascists. " I expect you will say, "That isn't religious bigotry, it is simply stating the facts."

If you read carefully I never condemned a denomination for its opinions, I am just pointing out that there is far more than enough hypocrisy to go around. You will not find any writing in the Bible about abortion, nor about vaccinations, gas chambers, etc.

You say "(muslim) men have free reign to treat women worse than dogs, Islam is still dominated around the world by Islamofascists," yet you turn around and say you want to brand a woman a murderer for having an abortion, and I presume force them to accept your way of thinking and do what you want them to do. hmmm. Not much difference from your islamofacism and your fundamental Christian (sic) fascism. It's a man's world out there, women are scary creatures. Isn't that what some Red think-tank guru said at a GOP meeting? Why are you so afraid?

Oh by the way, the USA knowingly sent Jews back to the gas chambers in WWII rather than let them enter the USA. See fear of immigrants isn't a new thing, nor is the culpability for the action.

and jack, you exactly miss the whole point of POV. I understand your point of view. I lived with it for quite a few years, up close. What you fail to understand, it seems, is if you want to understand someone with the idea of achieving compromise, you have to look at the world through their eyes without dragging your own biases into the view. That is you have to truly understand why they think the way they do, to know their biases and why. Then you need to ask what is it about your own bias that prevents you from making a conciliatory act.

For example, looking at the world through your eyes, you and z-fister are frightened to death of Islam, African American Presidents, immigrants, reformed theology and compassionate thinking, perhaps of change itself. You life seems ruled by fear. It points to a profound insecurity on your part. It isn't such a bad world out there, come on in and enjoy the water. Master your fear.

June 17, 2014 at 6:38 p.m.

Yeah, inq. That's the way it is. I stand by that. Islam is the bully of modern day religions. I'm not say that every Muslim is a bully, but that the face of Islam is terrorism. What other religions go around the world and kill because others don't believe as they do?

It is a fact. I suppose all of the beheading, bombing, slaughters, and women killed in the name of Islam are my imagination, huh? Facts and history back me up.

Your last paragraph is asinine. You're just a flame throwing leftist monkey,tossing your flaming poop at anyone to see who you can smear. "African American Presidents"? You mean Obatguano? I can name a few African Americans who I would vote for President..a couple would be Ben Carson and Alan West. I also think Condy Rice would make a good President. I know you bigoted libs don't consider blacks who aren't on your plantation/another party to be real blacks, but Uncle Toms, but they'd get my vote. "immigrants" mean illegal aliens. Everyone is welcome, but they must come in the lawful and proper way. "Compassionate thinking" you mean not having a view other than yours, and giving illegal aliens whatever they that? "reformed theology"? You mean a religion that tells you that you can do what- ever you want and it's fine. A religion that has no standards.

Where's your compassion for unborn human beings, US citizens who endangered by illegal alien invaders, and our weak borders, victims of Islam, those in this country who are unemployed/underemployed, and the young people/us citizens in this country who have been told by BO that "our future rests on dreamers"/illegal aliens

Your hypocrisy is shocking.

I have no insecurity, I just base things on facts and history.

Once again, inq, bringing up the failings or wrong doings of other religions and people does not make what Muslims have done ok.

June 17, 2014 at 7:17 p.m.

Women who kill their unborn babies are murderers, in my opinion. So freedom to you means the right to kill an unborn human being? Islam does treat it's women like dogs, or lower. I'm referring to an Islamic man's "right" to kill his wife, and do as he pleases with her even if she suffers.

It's not ok for a Muslim man to kill his wife if he sees fit, and it's certainly not ok for woman to kill her unborn baby.

June 17, 2014 at 7:21 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

IQ, your last paragraph is just plain baffling to me.

June 17, 2014 at 7:23 p.m.
conservative said...

inquiringmind said

You say "(muslim) men have free reign to treat women worse than dogs, Islam is still dominated around the world by Islamofascists," yet you turn around and say you want to brand a woman a murderer for having an abortion, and I presume force them to accept your way of thinking and do what you want them to do. hmmm. Not much difference from your islamofacism and your fundamental Christian (sic) fascism.


You Liberals are just wicked!

Yes, murdering an unborn baby is murder. Abortion is murder. The unborn baby is a human life.

You Liberals know this but wickedly deny this.

No Liberal woman ever gave birth to a dog, cat, rabbit or anything but a human being.

No Liberal was ever surprised when a child was born. Liberals even say such things such as "I/we are going to have a baby."

Liberals like you inquiring mind only refuse to call it a baby when you want to kill it.

You did not use the word baby inquiringmind!

June 17, 2014 at 7:30 p.m.

I'm the equivalent of Islamofacist because I consider the murder of an unborn human being to be wrong? nearly 60 million abortions is not a necessity, or medical reasons, it's genocide.

June 17, 2014 at 8:52 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Con-man is back! Too bad I've dusted my shoes.

Guys sorry I touched a raw nerve. I reckon my estimation of your pov was close to dead on by your gyrations. I'll bet out of fear you carry to protect yourself, and I do not mean prophylactics.

You are perfectly free to believe what you want about abortion either from a religious or secular perspective. Either of us can make a reasoned ethical argument against it; but abortion is not a black or white issue, it is a very painful choice for many, is abused by some (like alcohol).

We live in a free society where a person's religious belief is honored to the extent its practice does not infringe on the rights of others. It is also a society governed by the laws of the land.

Guess what? In this country, the US of A, legislative law, the Constitution and the Supreme Court protect a woman's right to an abortion. Abortion is the law of the land; it is not killing or murder BY LAW; therefore, you are bound to respect that the exercise of that law by others even if you chose personally not to have an abortion - but lest we forget you are a man and can't have one. I guess you can intimidate your wife or daughter into not getting one - like you say Muslims do.

If you chose to force your religious belief on a woman to prevent her free choice under the law, you are as much a religious terrorist as any Islamic terrorist.

When you calm down, z-fister, look up the definition of genocide. It refers to a systematic extermination, particularly of an ethnic, religious, racial or national group, like the Nazis did to the Jews. like the Kymer Rouge did to the Cambodians, like the Hutu's and Tutsis, etc. Even if abortion were illegal, it does not rise to the level of genocide.

But there you go in your true colors, painting everybody into "either/or," "my way or the highway," "black/white," "live or die" choice; just like Sunnis and Shiites do.

Welcome aboard the train of hypocrites, we have a seat on the first pew ready for you to sit with the rest of us.

June 17, 2014 at 9:47 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

IQ, I thought you were merely an ideologue. But the more you rant, I'm thinking you may be ill.

June 17, 2014 at 9:53 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

Didn't FDR say, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself?"

June 17, 2014 at 9:54 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Who's afraid?

June 17, 2014 at 10:01 p.m.
Hunter_Bluff said...

As conservatives like to say about the homeless and poor, it's all about personal choices and personal responsibility. The Sunnis and Shiites make a choice to kill each other in the name of their God and the big Old US Government shouldn't step in and try to save them. Right my conservative brethren? I mean it's a consequence of their choice and we have no obligation to them to save them from the error of their poor choices.

June 17, 2014 at 10:03 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

do you carry jack?

June 17, 2014 at 10:13 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

Nope, should I?

June 17, 2014 at 10:14 p.m.

It may be the law, but it is what it is, murder, inq. Nobody is stopping anyone from getting an abortion, it this the law. But, the 1st amendment allows me to say what I think, and it's clearly murder. You can call it what you want, but it's the extermination of nearly 60 million unborn human beings. They existed, and were terminated, period.

It's much more of a fundamental disrespect for human life than the abuse of Muslim women by Muslim men.

It is my way or the highway. Somethings you don't compromise on.

Facts and history rule. Facts and history tell me that nearly 60 million abortions since 1973 is just evil..plain and simple. Sick, at the least. You quibble about terminology, but the vulgar numbers speak for themselves.

June 17, 2014 at 10:25 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

good, maybe you dont carry the fear the others do.

Here is a national survey hot off the press, "Eighty-two percent of Democrats, two-thirds of independents, and even 51% of Republicans say that if Clinton becomes her party's nominee, she'll win the presidency."

June 17, 2014 at 10:25 p.m.
TheJackDennis said...

^^^ and you would favor that, IQ?

June 17, 2014 at 10:28 p.m.

Hellcat is not going to run, or win.

That is funny, Jack. Very funny.

June 17, 2014 at 10:40 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

fister too bad for you wishes do not make reality. You have no clue.

June 17, 2014 at 10:46 p.m.

Hellcat has no accomplishments unless you consider screaming, pointing fingers, lying and looking the other way while bubba got his rocks off, accomplishments.

She's an elitist putz in a pants suit. Her embarrassing interview with Diane Sawyer and her book flopping are not a good start, if that's start. "we were dead broke" yeah...that's believable. She had to scrounge around to find money to pay for her house(s) wich are mansions. What a fraud..just like BO.

June 17, 2014 at 10:47 p.m.

You have no's as if it's taken for granted that she's going to be the nominee. That was the case in '08. If BO continues on his path of destruction, which covers nearly everything, she won't win. The electorate will be so sick of Dems by then that they'll want anybody but her. What she's going to run on, BO's record? By then, she'll have to find some way to distance herself from him. How can she do that, when she was part of his admin.?

Other than the novelty of having a woman in the WH, and I use that term loosely, what else does she have to offer? More of the same that BO gave? Only pajama boy eunuchs, like you inq., would want her anywhere near the WH.

June 17, 2014 at 10:53 p.m.

BO will continue to be lawless, snub the American people, praise illegal aliens, ignore hard working and tax paying citizens, and BOscare's problems will build and build. Will Hellcat want him to campaign for her??? Huge problem.

June 17, 2014 at 10:57 p.m.
inquiringmind said...

woah z-fist-her, take it easy! Nobody is going to hurt you, not President Obama or Hillary Clinton, a fearful woman to you, who holds no public office, you do not need to be afraid. Fear is only what you fear, a strong woman. We love you in spite of yourself. Don't cut off your nose to spite your face.

June 17, 2014 at 11:40 p.m.
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