published Wednesday, March 19th, 2014

Annexation

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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fairmon said...

What is the objection? The people voted to be a part of Russia. Would we object if a town or county in California or a town in Texas on the border voted to become part of Mexico or a Canada bordering entity voted to become part of Canada? Assuming of course Mexico or Canada were receptive like Russia was.

The U.S. again is attempting to control the affairs of another country which we can ill afford to do and should not be doing. Those in D.C.can't handle what they are already up to their ears in and as one former member of the government said can't walk and chew gum at the same time so they shouldn't be trying to intervene in Ukraine. Is there a threat to U.S. security if that part of Ukraine that voted to be part of Russia does so?

It is a sad day when American people wonder who they trust more, Putin or Obama.

March 19, 2014 at 5:25 a.m.
LibDem said...

Of course, portions of countries should be free to withdraw at will. They will of course reimburse the motherland for highways, bridges, defense, etc.; but that would be no problem with their new currency. (Arkansas would have to provide its own driveway.)

March 19, 2014 at 7:27 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

I guess you have never heard of the Civil War fairmon?

March 19, 2014 at 7:28 a.m.
limric said...

Nice one Clay. I disagree with your premise however.

The Russians used the key, given to them by the bikes owner - not bolt cutters.

March 19, 2014 at 8:29 a.m.
ibshame said...

"fairmon said... What is the objection? The people voted to be a part of Russia.

It's amazing you even have to ask that question. As Gaussianinteger pointed out, have you ever heard of the Civil War or did you miss school that week? Maybe you never heard of the Mexican War as well. Try telling the Daughters and Sons of the Alamo, Mexico is going to take back a town in Texas because the voters in that town decided to give it back. Sarah Palin's husband was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party. They want Alaska to be an independent state. So suppose the voters in the state of Alaska vote to return Alaska to Russia, you think the rest of the United States should just sit back and say o.k. by us?

The Ukraine is not a NATO nation, so in that sense we aren't obliged to do anything. Unlike if Putin started saber rattling towards Poland or the Baltic States which are members of NATO. These sanctions are designed to warn Putin not to try any moves towards Poland or the Baltic States. Some say no reference should be made to Hitler but history tells that's exactly how he got started on his quest. First it was all about RE-UNITING THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE. Some of those countries he "took back" went without a fight or a single shot fired. The people of Poland were not interested in becoming one of Hitler's conquest but they were ill-prepared to stop him. He was warned not to invade Poland but he did anyway because NOTHING had been done to stop his other invasions. Poland fell within a matter of days. The Polish Army on horses was no match for the blitzkrieg and tanks of Hitler's Germany. If you have ever read a history book then you know once he invaded Poland all bets were off the table for the rest of Europe.

The U.S. sat on the sidelines. Winston Churchill finally sent Roosevelt a personal note and basically said if you don't help us now, it's just a matter of time before it's your turn and he'll be coming across the ocean after you. Then of course not long after Roosevelt decided to send aid, the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor and the rest as they say was history.

"The U.S. again is attempting to control the affairs of another country ....."

It's not about controlling the affairs of another country it's about deterring a nutjob like Putin from thinking he can continue to get away with invading other countries at will. But the difference this time as to why military action against Russia won't work is based on two words: Nuclear Armament. It's doubtful Russia is looking to go to war with the U.S. and Vice-versa. However, Economic Sanctions against Putin can prove to be a far better deterent to his actions in this day and age. President Obama has taken the right steps and there are other sanctions the U.S. and Europe can impose without military action.

60% of the country is in favor of sanctions against Putin so the question of who the American people trust more has already been answered.

March 19, 2014 at 8:53 a.m.
ibshame said...

Looks like NATO Nations, Poland and Baltic States, are looking for some reassurance from the U.S. against Putin:

*"The US is considering sending ground troops to the Baltic states on new military exercises as it seeks to reassure Nato allies in eastern Europe of its commitment to preventing further territorial incursion by Russia.

Vice president Joe Biden spoke of the plan during a meeting with the Estonian president Toomas Ilves after calls for a tougher US response to Russia’s attempted annexation of the Crimea.

It follows a Pentagon announcement of extra US F-15 jets to join Nato patrols in Poland and the Baltic on March 5, and recent requests by the Ukrainian government for possible US military assistance outside the Nato area.

“We are exploring a number of additional steps to increase the pace and scope of our military co-operation, including rotating US forces to the Baltic region to conduct ground and naval exercises – as well as training missions,” said Biden."*

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/18/us-military-exercises-baltics-russia

March 19, 2014 at 9:24 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

I'm just waiting for fairmon and his pals to figure out an argument making this President Obama's fault...it won't take them long.

His lead-off argument above is just refried tea party wishful thinking about seceding from the USA. They live in an alternate universe.

March 19, 2014 at 9:26 a.m.
limric said...

Ibshame,

History lesson aside, I have to disagree with your assessment.

"The U.S. again is attempting to control the affairs of another country." In this, Fairmon is correct. To which you countered: ”It's not about controlling the affairs of another country it's about deterring a nutjob like Putin from thinking he can continue to get away with invading other countries at will.” That would seem to be taken from the same script as John Kerry's stupendously,eye watering hypocritical statement: “You don’t just, in the 21st century, behave in 19th century fashion by invading another country on a completely trumped-up pretext.”

Thus -

“I never thought I’d live to see the day when the US State Department whitewashed the neo-Nazi views and heritage of a gang of thugs who had seized power in a violent coup d’état. In Iraq, Libya, and Syria, US policymakers empowered radical Islamists of one sort or another. That was bad enough. Today, however, in Ukraine they are empowering the heirs of Adolf Hitler. How is this not an outrage?”

~Justin Raimondo, From 'Iraq to Ukraine: A Pattern of Disaster'

And concluding -

“The difference in the Ukraine intervention from others the West has conducted is that the terminally adolescent political leaders who run the West have run smack dab into a decisive, realistic, and nationalistic adult, in the person of Vladimir Putin, and they're completely befuddled. They are learning that the Ukraine is not Libya or Egypt in that Putin will not to let the West make of Ukraine (or at least of Crimea) the same unholy mess its earlier unwarranted interventions made of Egypt and Libya etc. Putin has a very clear view of Russia’s genuine national interests, and reliable access to the Crimean base of the Black Sea fleet is one of them, it has been for centuries, and it will remain so in the future. U.S. and Western leaders should be lining up to thank Vladimir Putin for a painful but thorough lesson in how the adult leader of a nation protects his country’s genuine national interests.”

~Michael Scheuer, (Ron Paul Institute)

What nation, in the 21st century, is the greatest threat to world peace? Hint, it's not the Russians.

March 19, 2014 at 9:43 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

It's not about military action. It's about military threat. Beef up nato forces in Poland, reinstall the missile shield. (No one wanted it taken down, but Obama and Putin).

Limric, you're insane. Ask the people of the Baltic States & Poland if they don't sweat the Russian takeover. They've seen it before.

March 19, 2014 at 10:35 a.m.
MickeyRat said...

Thought you might like this. Especially you PlainTruth.

http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/890/3544/original.jpg

March 19, 2014 at 10:54 a.m.
PlainTruth said...

^^Who are you and what have you done with Rat?

March 19, 2014 at 11:01 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Limric, what if Putin decides Russia has a "national interest" in regaining Alaska?

March 19, 2014 at 11:53 a.m.
limric said...

Send the Palins on their 'snow machines'.

What if the Obama decides America has a "national interest" in regaining Canada, or Mexico, or Iraq? Oh wait we already did the last one.

Why are we still in NATO?

March 19, 2014 at 12:06 p.m.
alprova said...

Fairmon wrote; "What is the objection? The people voted to be a part of Russia. Would we object if a town or county in California or a town in Texas on the border voted to become part of Mexico or a Canada bordering entity voted to become part of Canada? Assuming of course Mexico or Canada were receptive like Russia was."

Do you mean like either country demonstrating their receptiveness to annexing the entity in question by invading the entity with military forces and arranging a vote of the people to side with them?

Naw..there's not a hint of impropriety or intimidation at all, is there?

"The U.S. again is attempting to control the affairs of another country which we can ill afford to do and should not be doing."

I don't necessarily disagree with that ay all, but I understand why some people do feel differently about that.

"It is a sad day when American people wonder who they trust more, Putin or Obama."

Is it really so hard? Not to many years ago, such sentiment expressed would be considered sedition.

The way I see it, many Americans have no concept of loyalty to this nation. For them, patriotism is a bullsh!t word.

March 19, 2014 at 12:07 p.m.

Yeah, BO's doing a great job. He backs the Muslim brotherhood in Egypt and Neo Nazis in the Ukraine. Great leadership there. We have no business in there at all, just like we have no business in Syria, Lybia and Egypt. We blew it in Iraq and Afghanistan. One massive blunder after another.

Bo bitched about bush going into Iraq and Afghanistan, and then goes and sticks his boney fingers into Egypt and libya, and threatened to in Syria.

We squabble over whether allowing illegal aliens/invaders/weak borders is a good thing or negative thing when a few thousand years worth of history tells us it spells doom for a country. We have a president who not only doesn't have an ounce of patriotism in him, but he openly puts down the country.

How are we supposed to be taken seriously, diplomatically?

Laughing stock.

March 19, 2014 at 12:35 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "Yeah, BO's doing a great job. He backs the Muslim brotherhood in Egypt..."

You're just full of ignorance, aren't you?

Would you be so kind as to explain EXACTLY how it is that the President "backs" the Muslim Brotherhood?

"Bo bitched about bush going into Iraq and Afghanistan, and then goes and sticks his boney fingers into Egypt and libya, and threatened to in Syria.

Oh really? When did American boots hit the ground?

"We squabble over whether allowing illegal aliens/invaders/weak borders is a good thing or negative thing when a few thousand years worth of history tells us it spells doom for a country. We have a president who not only doesn't have an ounce of patriotism in him, but he openly puts down the country."

Show me the quote that proves that he "puts down the country," and I will once and for all denounce the man for the rest of my life.

"How are we supposed to be taken seriously, diplomatically?"

Have no fear you moron, there are better people than you and I in charge of things. You don't hear your phone ringing, asking you for any advice, do you?

"Laughing stock."

Indeed you are.

March 19, 2014 at 1:37 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

So Fister, I guess in your worldly travels you have found time to survey people around the world and get their opinions? And I guess I am to take it that the majority of the world thinks Americans are the "laughing stock"?

Whether you are willing to admit it or not, countries that consider us the "laughing stock" have always considered us the "laughing stock". It doesn't matter who the president is. People overseas don't give one sh!t if the president is a Democrat or a Republican. And besides, wouldn't that contribute to the "laughing stock" persona; Americans actually believing that someone is less of a man (or woman) because they belong to a different political party? While it may make juicy talk radio or TV talking points, it matters almost none overseas (and yes I have traveled extensively overseas).

And I agree we "blew it in Iraq and Afghanistan" by going there in the first place. What exactly was supposed to happen in Iraq when we first arrived? Get Saddam out of there? Okay. And then what? Were you actually delusional enough to believe that a Middle Eastern country was going to willingly accept a "democracy" established by the US?

March 19, 2014 at 1:45 p.m.

Screw you, Alprova, you fat ass, government leach. Gauss, I don't care if you sailed around the world a thousand times, I guarantee you we were more respected when Reagan was Potus than this Bozo.

If you think it doesn't matter that our POTUS puts down our country then you're foolish.

As I said, Bo is an embarrassment. Putin is literally laughing at us. That's a fact.

Guass, I never said anything about what you mentioned about Iraq or Afghanistan. We did what we were going to do in Iraq, whats happened since makes no sense to me. Same goes for Afghanistan. And I don't believe they want American style Democracy. We've blown IT by lingering there with no clear purpose, at least to me.

Political party has nothing to do with it at all. I don't think anyone overseas cares what party BO belongs, but they do know what comes out his mouth and what a crappy job he's doing.

BO calls our Constitution a "charter of negative liberties" that says it all.

March 19, 2014 at 5:31 p.m.
MickeyRat said...

"BO calls our Constitution a "charter of negative liberties" that says it all."

And in a comment worthy of Monty Python, GW Bush said: "It's just piece of paper."

Limric was right about you guys. And how!!

March 19, 2014 at 7:15 p.m.
PlainTruth said...

At one time, Alpo was the most pompous ass here. Then along comes Gassy...

March 19, 2014 at 7:20 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"Gauss, I don't care if you sailed around the world a thousand times, I guarantee you we were more respected when Reagan was Potus than this Bozo."

Oh yeah? Hezbollah wasn't too scared or "respectful" of Reagan when they bombed the Marine barracks in Beiruit. Take your partisan goggles off for one second and you'll realize the same crap that is happening now, was happening back during the days of Reagan.

March 19, 2014 at 8:10 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"At one time, Alpo was the most pompous ass here. Then along comes Gassy..."

Says the most pompous and condescending person on this board. I'll take that as a compliment coming from you. I wish I was only half as cool as you were.

March 19, 2014 at 8:16 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "Screw you, Alprova, you fat ass, government leach."

Hilarious!! Did I touch one of your widdle nerves?

March 19, 2014 at 11:16 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Pissed Off Used Car Salesman

A friend of yours alpo?

March 20, 2014 at 4:59 a.m.
TOES02800 said...

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the Obama's are planning for their next vacation to the vineyard.

What a piece of sh!t.

March 20, 2014 at 5:08 a.m.
ibshame said...

"TOES02800 said... Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the Obama's are planning for their next vacation to the vineyard.

What a piece of sh!t."

President Obama goes to Martha's vineyard so what? I would rather see him get some vacation time on the vineyard rather than playing cowboy on his make-believe ranch. Now that's a real POS LOL

Bush..., the 43rd president had spent 367 days at his ranch in Crawford, Texas, and his parent's compound at Kennebunkport, Maine, according to a count by CBS News reporter Mark Knoller. Obama, who doesn't own a vacation home, has spent a total of 92 days of his presidency on vacation, according to Knoller.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/08/08/obama-marthas-vineyard-clinton-bush-fdr-vacation/2632979/

That's the problem with low-information voters they never get the story straight. Like saying President Obama declared the recession ended in 2009. So, just in case anyone missed that little gem here it is again:

""TOES02800 said... As far as "GWB's great recession" Obama declared the recession over in 2009. According to you, he must be a liar then. Right shameful?"

He's not a liar but your statement is a lie and here's the proof. LOL

*"NEW� YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The Great Recession ended in June 2009,according to the body charged with dating when economic downturns begin and end.

But the news is little comfort to the millions of Americans still out of work, underwater on their mortgages or uncertain about the future.

The National Bureau of Economic Research, an independent group of economists, released a statement Monday saying economic data now clearly point to the economy turning higher last summer. That makes the 18-month recession that started in December 2007 the longest and deepest downturn for the U.S. economy since the Great Depression

There is a chart that shows the length of recent recessions on the link provided.*

http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/20/news/economy/recession_over/

**And according to the chart the longest recession prior to Bush's GREAT RECESSION WAS WAIT FOR IT:

RONALD REAGAN**

March 20, 2014 at 8:36 a.m.
GaussianInteger said...

ibshame, how dare you? Vacation time for presidents didn't matter until 2009.

March 20, 2014 at 9:04 a.m.

I read that Kerry is going to Uganda to try and set them straight regarding Homosexuality. Of course Uganda is a predominantly Christian country. Kerry doesn't have the balls to go into Saudi Arabia or Iran and set those Muslims countries straight. Like I said, we're becoming a laughing stock.

March 20, 2014 at 1:36 p.m.

MO won't allow press coverage of her trip to China, BO is busy filling out his NCAA bracket, Kerry has his head up his ass, meanwhile Putin is gobbling up the Ukraine, with an eye on Estonia.

Alprova, or should I call you Ahab, you think too much of yourself. Your just an overstuffed blowhard who wants as much free stuff as you can get because you feel your entitled to it.

Entitlement and control is at the core of the liberal mind.

March 20, 2014 at 1:44 p.m.
ibshame said...

Fred Phelps is dead but I'm sure he has rabid followers to carry on his hate-filled work in the name of God.

"TOPEKA, Kan. (AP) — The Rev. Fred Phelps Sr., the fiery founder of a small Kansas church who drew international condemnation for outrageous and hate-filled protests that blamed almost everything, including the deaths of AIDS victims and U.S. soldiers, on America's tolerance for gay people, has died. He was 84."

March 20, 2014 at 1:57 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

MickeyRat said...

"BO calls our Constitution a "charter of negative liberties" that says it all."

And in a comment worthy of Monty Python, GW Bush said: "It's just piece of paper."

Limric was right about you guys. And how!!

Wonder what he has to say about you posting lying idiotic Fleabagger talking points

From Factcheck.org;

**Did President Bush call the Constitution a "G.D.’ed piece of paper"?

The report that Bush "screamed" those words at Republican congressional leaders in November 2005 is unsubstantiated, to put it charitably.

We judge that the odds that the report is accurate hover near zero. It comes from Capitol Hill Blue, a Web site that has a history of relying on phony sources, retracting stories and apologizing to its readers.

Update, Feb. 21, 2011: The author of the Capitol Hill Blue story has now withdrawn it. Doug Thompson messaged us to say:

Doug Thompson: This is to let you know that the piece on Bush and the Constitution has been changed and reads:

"This article was based on sources that we thought, at the time, were reliable. We have since discovered reasons to doubt their veracity. For that reason, this article has been removed from our database."

I no longer stand behind that article or its conclusions and have said so in answers to several recent queries. In addition, I have asked that it be removed from a documentary film.

March 20, 2014 at 1:57 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

GaussianInteger said...

"Gauss, I don't care if you sailed around the world a thousand times, I guarantee you we were more respected when Reagan was Potus than this Bozo."

Oh yeah? Hezbollah wasn't too scared or "respectful" of Reagan when they bombed the Marine barracks in Beiruit. Take your partisan goggles off for one second and you'll realize the same crap that is happening now, was happening back during the days of Reagan.

I know what you mean ... the Rooskies were jabbing their finger in our eye on a daily basis and the world was LTFAO at how impotent and broke-azz we were.

March 20, 2014 at 2:05 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Fister, you are strange little man. We send close to half a billion dollars a year to Uganda (none to the Saudis or Iranians).

The only person being laughed at is you.

March 20, 2014 at 2:13 p.m.
ibshame said...

"Jt6gR3hM said...

I know what you mean ... the Rooskies were jabbing their finger in our eye on a daily basis and the world was LTFAO at how impotent and broke-azz we were"

Yeah, I now what you mean...Like Putin was jabbing his finger in Bush's eye as Bush looked into his soul..Right? LOL

"Bush's later public comment noting that he had gotten a "sense of his soul" disturbed many inside his own team. National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice stiffened even as he said it, worried that the answer might be too effusive -- but she said nothing. Back in Washington, Vice President Dick Cheney and his staff were even more bothered. "A lot of us were kind of rolling our eyes about that," Eric Edelman, then the vice president's deputy national security adviser, recalled later. Every time Cheney saw Putin, he privately told people, "I think KGB, KGB, KGB."

"Bush nonetheless stepped up his courtship, inviting Putin to his ranch outside Crawford, Texas, and later to Camp David. Putin liked to brag that he was the first foreign leader to reach out to Bush after the World Trade Towers fell and that he had overruled his own hardliners to allow American troops into former Soviet-controlled Central Asia as a jumping off point for Afghanistan."

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/11/05/the_seduction_of_george_w_bush_by_vladimir_putin

March 20, 2014 at 2:24 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

inquiringmind said...

I'm just waiting for fairmon and his pals to figure out an argument making this President Obama's fault...it won't take them long.

The Rooskies wouldn’t have done this unless they knew they could get away with it. Who do you think gave them that idea, even unintentionally, through an open display of weakness and ineptitude?

March 20, 2014 at 2:28 p.m.
ibshame said...

"Jt6gR3hM said... The Rooskies wouldn’t have done this unless they knew they could get away with it. Who do you think gave them that idea, even unintentionally, through an open display of weakness and ineptitude?"

And who would have given them any reason to believe this first? How about?

"Bush nonetheless stepped up his courtship, inviting Putin to his ranch outside Crawford, Texas, and later to Camp David. Putin liked to brag that he was the first foreign leader to reach out to Bush after the World Trade Towers fell and that he had overruled his own hardliners to allow American troops into former Soviet-controlled Central Asia as a jumping off point for Afghanistan."

March 20, 2014 at 2:33 p.m.
Jt6gR3hM said...

limric said...

Nice one Clay. I disagree with your premise however.

The Russians used the key, given to them by the bikes owner - not bolt cutters.

They didn’t actually hold the “title” but the legal owner had been letting them ride it. When the neighborhood badazz offer to let them join his gang they gave it to him as a gift. The legal owner can call the cops to get it back but they’ll be conveniently busy busting some jaywalkers.

March 20, 2014 at 2:35 p.m.
alprova said...

Z-man wrote: "Alprova, or should I call you Ahab, you think too much of yourself. Your just an overstuffed blowhard who wants as much free stuff as you can get because you feel your entitled to it."

Sir, you know nothing about me. Anything I am receiving was paid for many times over the years, when I paid more in taxes each and every year than you probably gross per year.

I've earned every cent and I've got the records to show it.

"Entitlement and control is at the core of the liberal mind."

Ignorance and condemnation appears to dominate yours.

March 20, 2014 at 2:35 p.m.

Guass what does aid have to do with it? The fact that SOS is specifically going to Uganda to criticize their views on Homosexuality is typical of this administration. It's as stupid as Kerry's statements regarding Climate Change. Is that our foreign policy, tackling climate change, changing the minds of foreign leaders on homosexuality, and scolding Putin for using 19th century military tactics in the 21st Century?

And our former SOS comparing Putin to Hitler. I'm sure that's going to make him back down.

March 20, 2014 at 2:35 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

In 2009 obama claimed it was the "beginning of the end" of the recession. 5 years later.............

March 20, 2014 at 2:39 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Did Hitler stop with the Anschluss? Do you really think Putin will?

March 20, 2014 at 2:45 p.m.
facyspacy said...

Ibshame said, President Obama goes to Martha's vineyard so what? I would rather see him get some vacation time on the vineyard rather than playing cowboy on his make-believe ranch. Now that's a real POS LOL

How much tax payer money did he use to spend time at home?

March 20, 2014 at 2:48 p.m.
MickeyRat said...

Through the sands of time………

GOP leaders told ("Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be somewhere, Nope, no weapons over there ... maybe under here?") Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the [Patriot] act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.

“I don’t give a goddamn,” Bush retorted. “I’m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.”

“Mr. President,” one aide in the meeting said. “There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.” “Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”

I’ve talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution “a goddamned piece of paper.”

He said it!

Somebody - Alberto [The Geneva Convention is "rather quaint"] Gonzales put the squeeze on Doug Thompson. Oh yes…….. Bet on it!

SUCK IT HONEY!

March 20, 2014 at 2:48 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"The Rooskies wouldn’t have done this unless they knew they could get away with it. Who do you think gave them that idea, even unintentionally, through an open display of weakness and ineptitude?"

How do you know that Jt? History (which I know isn't your strong suit) says otherwise. They invaded Afghanistan during the Reagan years and Georgia during W's term. You are just a partisan hack that never looks to the truth of the matter.

March 20, 2014 at 2:49 p.m.

TOES, you're correct, he did say that. The consummate liar.

March 20, 2014 at 2:50 p.m.
TOES02800 said...

Seems the dems have a friend in the EPA as well as the IRS.

"With midterm elections not far off, Democratic opposition researchers are armed with thousands of pages of records obtained from the Environmental Protection Agency through the Freedom of Information Act, far outpacing known Republican efforts to pry information loose from the agency, records show. Democrats have filed more than 50 FOIA requests, including lots seeking correspondence between Republicans and EPA officials — letters that operatives will scour for any hint that politicians’ rhetoric doesn’t square with how they conduct themselves outside of public view. Their findings help supply a steady flow of material for damaging news stories and campaign ads."

"Twenty-eight of the Democrats’ requests have been completed. Most resulted in the EPA release of documents with some reports that a search yielded no records. The other requests are being processed or await assignment."

On the other hand:

Republican political committees have filed just four requests since 2012, and none of those has been fulfilled. One request that has languished for more than two years sought correspondence between John F. Kerry, a senator at the time, and EPA Administrator Lisa P. Jackson.

The society, in an op-ed, said the EPA was one of the most open agencies in government during the 1980s and 1990s but became “incredibly secretive, especially under the Obama administration.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/18/epa-gives-campaign-paper-trail-to-democrats-little/?page=2#ixzz2wWy2oHUX

March 20, 2014 at 2:55 p.m.
alprova said...

Facyspacy wrote: "How much tax payer money did he use to spend time at home?"

About $20,000,000, using Air Force One 77 times during his term to ferry himself back and forth to Crawford, Texas.

77 TIMES!!

http://www.politicususa.com/2011/12/23/cost-obama-christmas-vacation-bush.html

March 20, 2014 at 3:43 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

Come on Al. Bush flew coach and paid for his own ticket each time he went to TX. He also told Secret Service just to stay back in DC each time, as well. Net cost to the tax payers: 0.

March 20, 2014 at 6:21 p.m.
volsam said...

Why do presidents not use Camp David any more? We ( the tax payers) paid to build it and for upkeep. I suppose its not good enough for emperor Obama. Bush may have went to Crawford, but that was home, and there's no place like home. Obama has to fill out ncaa brackets while the world is burning. I think most Americans are sick of Obama's bull except the neocons on this forum. This man is destroying our country faster than Jimmy Carter. I can't see how people can't see this, must be ideology. I can admit that Bush 1 and 2 were simply horrible presidents why can't the progressive liberals admit that king Obama is a total failure at everything he does. Can anybody on this forum name 1 thing Obama has done that has worked.

March 20, 2014 at 9:15 p.m.
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