published Monday, March 31st, 2014

Just love like Jesus and other letters to the editors

Just love like Jesus

For those of you who are so sure you understand the Bible and know what it says, I hope you can understand this scripture from James as well. "Don't bad-mouth each other, friends. It's God's word, his message, his royal rule, that takes a beating in that kind of talk. You're supposed to be honoring the message, not writing graffiti all over it. God is in charge of deciding human destiny. Who do you think you are to meddle in the destiny of others?" (James 4: 11-12). When you are so sure homosexuality is wrong, you are telling God he made a mistake. Could it be possible we don't even understand why this kind of sexuality might be needed? However, God does, as he made them. Do we know the mind of God? Do we want to be pointing out rules like the Pharisees did? Or do we want to love like Jesus did? I especially urge organizations and businesses to heed the scripture above. Let's make this song true: "They'll know we are Christians by our love."

SHARON GUY, Charleston, Tenn.


Corker quote clarified

I believe U.S. Sen. Bob Corker is being misquoted in the Times Free Press and other publications regarding his statement in reference to the recent Volkswagen UAW vote. The senator did not say the Chattanooga plant would be selected to produce the new VW SUV if the workers rejected UAW representation. Rather, he stated (and subsequently has further clarified) the Chattanooga plant would still be selected for the new product even if union representation was rejected by the workers. His statement was intended to counteract inferences from pro-union parties that selection of the Chattanooga plant for the new SUV was contingent on a favorable vote for the UAW.

ROD BRADLEY


Don't blame labor unions

In response to "no unions, period," which blames unions for schools' low ratings and the Postal Service for not being profitable. The Postal Service has struggled, but held on; then Congress passed the Postal Service Accountability and Enhancement Act that forces it to pre-fund its retirees' health benefits for 75 years, in 10 years. Forced to fund people who are not working for them yet, in some cases, not even born, no business could survive like that. That's why they are in a financial crisis! Blaming teachers' unions for school low ratings? Even with a union, teachers are still paid low pay, buy supplies out of their own pockets and work endless hours without pay. The list goes on and on. Budget cuts, restrictions put on our educators and people with no educational background trying to dictate how to teach, are why our schools are failing! Union or not, you owe unions; without them, there would not be an eight-hour work day, 40-hour week, overtime pay, child labor laws, unemployment insurance, workplace safety standards. The list goes on and on. Time to thank the unions instead of blaming them for all the work-place failures!

MARTY HOLLAND, Fort Oglelthorpe


Support for Blythe Bailey

As opposed to Councilman Yusuf Hakeem's view of Transportation Department leader Blythe Bailey, I have found Mr. Bailey to be highly responsive and an asset to the city and its citizens. I recently required a special-use permit in order to install a sculpture on the sidewalk in front of my building. When first inquiring about the process, I left a telephone message for Mr. Bailey on a Friday. He returned my call the next day, a Saturday, with the answers I needed. I urge Mr. Hakeem to leave Blythe Bailey alone to do his job.

DAVID JONES

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wallyworld said...

Corker quote clarified Why does this newspaper choose to print letters that can be easily fact checked. Some of us out here can still read and want the truth, not some right-winger's interpretation of FACTS. This is what Corker actually said: (Reuters) - U.S. Senator Bob Corker on Thursday defended wading into a labor union organizing campaign at a Tennessee Volkswagen plant, saying it would have been irresponsible to remain silent about possible production plans at the automaker's facility related to the union vote. On Wednesday, Corker issued a statement saying that he had "conversations" that led him to believe that if VW employees voted against representation by the United Auto Workers union at the Tennessee VW plant, "Volkswagen will announce in the coming weeks that it will manufacture its new mid-size SUV here in Chattanooga." Now, how would a sane person interpret that statement?

March 31, 2014 at 6:53 a.m.
conservative said...

SHARON GUY, Charleston, Tenn., you made up a translation of James 4:11-12 or you copied someone who did and then you lied about the wrongness of Homosexuality.

You are brazen to say the least.

March 31, 2014 at 8:27 a.m.
TheCommander said...

Sharon Guy said (and not the Bible) - "God is in charge of deciding human destiny. Who do you think you are to meddle in the destiny of others?"

The idea of a personal destiny is fatalism which is a philosophy that comes from paganism and is no where taught in the Bible. God has put your future in your hands and in your hands alone. Maybe you don't like the freedom that God gave to man to make his own choices but it cannot be denied. What the liberal critic really doesn't like is the responsibility and consequences that come from man's choices. When one makes a claim of destiny, it is very easy to push all blame onto God Himself, is it not?

March 31, 2014 at 7:35 p.m.
TheCommander said...

Is it not amazing that the same people who claim that we cannot control our sexual desires at the same time claim that man has the power and responsibility to control the climate?

March 31, 2014 at 9:05 p.m.
conservative said...

Good point. However the ones making that claim never state what they personally are doing to cause global warming/climate change.

I have tried many times with some of the frequent kooks such as nucanuck and not once has he or anyone else stated what they were doing to cause it.

April 1, 2014 at 7:19 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

That's because what you demand demonstrates your complete lack of understanding of climate. Not surprising; you show no understanding of most topics and no desire to change that if it isn't in your interpretation of the bible.

April 1, 2014 at 7:50 a.m.
conservative said...

Now watch this closely.

What are you doing l keith lu to cause global warming/climate change.

April 1, 2014 at 8:15 a.m.
conservative said...

Better:

What are you doing l keith lu to cause global warming/climate change?

April 1, 2014 at 8:34 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Living and breathing, con man. Just like you and 7 billion of our brethren. Your point?

April 1, 2014 at 8:47 a.m.
conservative said...

So your solution is to kill others?

April 1, 2014 at 8:58 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Only you could draw such an awful conclusion from my post. Must be a TROO Christian thing...

April 1, 2014 at 9:13 a.m.
conservative said...

So, what are you doing to cause global warming/climate change?

April 1, 2014 at 9:20 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

I've already answered that.

April 1, 2014 at 9:22 a.m.
conservative said...

Well, since you say that you are causing global warming/climate change because you are breathing, why don't you stop breathing?

April 1, 2014 at 9:35 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

After you,dear.

April 1, 2014 at 9:38 a.m.
conservative said...

So, you claim global warming/climate change is caused by you breathing yet you are not going to stop breathing. Instead, you want me to stop breathing.

I would say that is consistent with the Atheism you profess.

April 1, 2014 at 9:48 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

No, I want you to go first, since it is your idea. You being a TROO Christian you know.

April 1, 2014 at 9:51 a.m.
conservative said...

Now, you are going into your grade school mode again.

If you are claiming responsibility for global warming/climate change because you are breathing then the only possible solution is that you stop breathing.

You are not going to commit suicide so it the other guy who has to go.

I have stated several times before and I will state again it is always the other guy who has to go with you Liberals/Atheists.

April 1, 2014 at 10 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Given that you are eternally in a child like state, I guess that makes us evenly matched for once.

April 1, 2014 at 10:11 a.m.
conservative said...

You are still left with an insurmountable problem.

If you are correct that you are causing global warming/climate change because YOU are breathing, then how are YOU going to stop it?

April 1, 2014 at 10:29 a.m.
Rickaroo said...

"God has put your future in your hands and in your hands alone. Maybe you don't like the freedom that God gave to man to make his own choices but it cannot be denied. What the liberal critic really doesn't like is the responsibility and consequences that come from man's choices." - TC

You Christians like to say that your God has given us "free will" but that is utter rubbish. Obviously you guys haven't given this much thought. But then, I'm not surprised because you don't seem to think about much of anything outside the small box of your silly creed and that ancient, moldy book of myths that you claim is "God's holy word."

Your God's "freedom" that you say he has given to us amounts to this: Believe in strict accordance with how he says we must believe or else suffer eternal torment. Some choice! If that's freedom I'll take my chances in believing in some other kinder, truly loving deity, thank you....or no deity. True freedom would mean that he respects our choices enough as autonomous beings to allow us to live our lives in accordance with the path that is best for us as individuals, without fear of chastisement, let alone fear of eternal damnation, from some petty, sadistic God who is so insecure that he commands that we worship him....or suffer the consequences. It would mean that we are free to use our intelligence and reasoning powers (which he, by the way, endowed us with) to come to our own conclusions and make our own decisions. Your God's "free will" for us amounts to choosing HIS way...or the highway - the highway to hell.

You are slaves to a primitive man-made creed and you are blind enough and foolish enough to call that "freedom." True freedom is just what it implies - we're FREE! Free to chose our own destiny - within the parameters of what fate otherwise doles out to us, at least - and free to THINK, to REASON, and to chart our own path WITHOUT fear of retribution from some jealous overbearing invisible granddaddy in the sky.

April 1, 2014 at 10:31 a.m.
conservative said...

lkeithlu:

Ridicule aside, have you considered just breathing half the time since you are convinced that YOU are causing global warming/climate change by breathing?

April 1, 2014 at 11:13 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Conversing with you is fun! Just like talking with a child. Child like understanding of the world, belief in fairy tales, black and white simplistic view of how things work, and childish assumption that everyone believes exactly as you should. Not to mention your silly childish demands that passes for intelligent conversation on this forum.

April 1, 2014 at 11:38 a.m.
conservative said...

You made the mistake of stating your belief that YOU are causing global warming/climate change by breathing.

Why are you not the silly one?

Folks, if you can get a Liberal to speak or write, they will hang themselves with their own words every time.

April 1, 2014 at 11:46 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

I do. So do you. And every other person on earth. You trying to dispute that? It is part of the source of CO2. Did I ever claim it was the only source or the most significant? No. Therefore I was correct. You are the one making the false conclusion that by ending breathing one is correcting it.

April 1, 2014 at 11:57 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

We live, we breathe, we consume, we drive, we heat and cool our homes. We are all a part. Even those like you who in your ignorance think it isn't happening.

April 1, 2014 at 11:59 a.m.
conservative said...

Well now, if you really believe all that, why don't you stop?

April 1, 2014 at 12:02 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Population in the end is the primary cause. To bring 7+ billion people up to modern standard of living requires fossil fuels. Reduction of fuel use in the US will not stop it unless we demand that the rest of the world stop developing. We as a species have exceeded the carrying capacity of the earth. You have taken the last step in saying someone must die, not me. But these are the cold, hard, facts. We are too many.

April 1, 2014 at 12:05 p.m.
conservative said...

"Population in the end is the primary cause"

Says you and the other kooks and Atheists.

You are for abortion to control population. Your heroes are the Sangers and Darwins and Hitlers of the world, advocates of population control and survival of the fittest and elimination of those you deem inferior.

April 1, 2014 at 12:41 p.m.
conservative said...

"Reduction of fuel use in the US will not stop it unless we demand that the rest of the world stop developing."

"We demand." Such is the arrogance of those who think they no such much when they know so little.

You must not have got the memo. It is widely claimed by the kooks that the U.S. consumes 25% plus of the world's energy.

So what? We have an economy, praise God?

Subscribe to Kook.com to keep up.

April 1, 2014 at 12:49 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Nothing you have posted refutes anything I have said, so what's your point?

April 1, 2014 at 12:51 p.m.
conservative said...

""Reduction of fuel use in the US will not stop it unless we demand that the rest of the world stop developing."

Like the Atheist/Socialist/Communist countries of Cuba where fuel is so scarce that oxen are used in farming and electricity is rationed at night.

Like Atheist North Korea where the nation, except for the capital stays in darkness at night and large segments of the population are starving.

And scores of Godless third world countries that have poor economies, with people living in squalor and shacks, no refrigeration, bicycles for transportation or they walk. Yea, they are really using up a lot of fossil fuels.

I spent 14 months in Nam, I have seen the Atheist/Socialist/Communist ideas of development.

April 1, 2014 at 1:02 p.m.
conservative said...

"We as a species have exceeded the carrying capacity of the earth."

Straight out of the Atheist/Socialist/Liberal handbook.

April 1, 2014 at 1:05 p.m.
conservative said...

"You have taken the last step in saying someone must die, not me"

That is a lie!

You are the one who supports killing for population control.

Your are desperate.

April 1, 2014 at 1:10 p.m.
conservative said...

"You have taken the last step in saying someone must die, not me. But these are the cold, hard, facts. We are too many."

You lied.

I told you all along that you are for killing. You just confirmed it.

I also said that with you people, it is always the other guy who has to die.

April 1, 2014 at 1:15 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

No, you are lying. I stated that there are too many humans. There are. YOU and you alone mentioned killing. Not me.

April 1, 2014 at 1:17 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Your comprehension of the written word is pretty poor. This is not the first time I have seen you do this.

April 1, 2014 at 1:18 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Of course, I am being generous. You may just lack integrity, not reading skills.

April 1, 2014 at 1:19 p.m.
conservative said...

"We live, we breathe, we consume, we drive...."

You don't have to drive, yet you do. You are a hypocrite. If you really believed that you were causing global warming/climate change you would stop driving, hypocrite

April 1, 2014 at 1:22 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Yeah, it's the reading skills. I am not sure you have the wits to be dishonest. Or the intelligence.

April 1, 2014 at 1:25 p.m.
conservative said...

"we heat and cool our homes"

Yes, you sure do. I lived without air conditioning when I was growing up and most of the world does now.

Yet if you really believed that you were causing global warming/climate change you would do without.

You are a hypocrite, you don't practice push on others.

April 1, 2014 at 1:27 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

I rest my case. You really aren't very bright. Explains the Fundy religious vstuff, too.

April 1, 2014 at 1:28 p.m.
conservative said...

Me -What are you doing l keith lu to cause global warming/climate change?

You -Living and breathing, con man. Just like you and 7 billion of our brethren. Your point?

Me -So your solution is to kill others?

you - Only you could draw such an awful conclusion from my post. Must be a TROO Christian thing...

You - "You have taken the last step in saying someone must die, not me. But these are the cold, hard, facts. We are too many."

There is your lie. I only asked , knowing the answer, that you advocate killing for population control.

You lied when you claimed I said "someone must die."

Then you confirmed that people have to die when you said " But these are the cold, hard, facts. We are too many."

Why such an egregious lie when the record is so plain?

April 1, 2014 at 1:51 p.m.
conservative said...

"Did I ever claim it was the only source or the most significant? No. Therefore I was correct. You are the one making the false conclusion that by ending breathing one is correcting it."

It was the only one you offered.

I asked:

What are you doing l keith lu to cause global warming/climate change?

And your only response was:

Living and breathing, con man. Just like you and 7 billion of our brethren. Your point?

April 1, 2014 at 2 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

You have just proved my point, con, that you can't read. Ironic coming from someone who demands that the bible be interpreted word for word.

April 1, 2014 at 2:02 p.m.
conservative said...

You got caught, plain and simple.

Insulting me is not a defense.

April 1, 2014 at 2:04 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

I got caught on nothing. Every word related to killing is yours. That we are too many is fact. We exceeded the carrying capacity and our numbers are not sustainable. That is fact. YOU were the only one who projected elimination as the response. Not me.

April 1, 2014 at 2:06 p.m.
conservative said...

There you go lying again:

Me -What are you doing l keith lu to cause global warming/climate change?

You -Living and breathing, con man. Just like you and 7 billion of our brethren. Your point?

Me -So your solution is to kill others?

Then you lie again:

You - "You have taken the last step in saying someone must die, not me. But these are the cold, hard, facts. We are too many."

April 1, 2014 at 2:29 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Again, you have proven my point. You really are this dense?

April 1, 2014 at 2:49 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

"So your solution is to kill others?"

This is your statement, you dope. You are falsely accusing Ike of implying what you are saying. That makes you dishonest, or a liar, to use a word you like to toss around so freely.

For someone that proclaims to eat, drink, live, and sleep the bible, you sure are a poor example of someone that lives by biblical principles.

April 1, 2014 at 4:56 p.m.
conservative said...

GaussianInteger:

I am going to explain it to you slowly, I want you to get it.

You were wrong from the beginning when you called my question a statement.

The exchange began with MY question :

What are you doing l keith lu to cause global warming/climate change?

lkeithlu answered :

Living and breathing, con man. Just like you and 7 billion of our brethren. Your point?

MY next question:

So your solution is to kill others?

Now, I know her record and her lack of respect for life. She is pro abortion. She like most other Liberals sees abortion as a means of population control. I wanted to draw her out and admit such and that is why I asked the question. She got it but tried to make out that I was the one wanted people to die.

Now, as a Christian, I am vehemently opposed to abortion. I also know global warming/climate change is a hoax, so of course there is no need for population control. This is the wicked mindset of Atheists and Liberals. She is an Atheist.

lkeithlu responded with this:

"Only you could draw such an awful conclusion from my post. Must be a TROO Christian thing..."

I stated NO conclusion, I asked a question to draw her out and I eventually did.

Her ONLY reason for global warming/climate change given was:

Living and breathing, con man. Just like you and 7 billion of our brethren. Your point?

Shortly, lkeitlu lied and I called her on this lie :

"You have taken the last step in saying someone must die, not me. But these are the cold, hard, facts. We are too many."

I said no such thing. This is a lie. I never said someone must die. Lkeithlu lied.

Notice that I was successful in drawing out her stand on population control when lkeithlu wrote, not me :

".....someone must die, not me. But these are the cold, hard, facts. We are too many."

April 1, 2014 at 6:51 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Still proving my point, con.

April 1, 2014 at 7 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Quote mine:

....someone must die, not me.

What I posted was "you have taken the last step in saying someone must die, not me"

Extremely dishonest, quote mining. Shame on you. What would Jesus think?

April 1, 2014 at 7:09 p.m.
conservative said...

No, no, no. I gave the full quote.

Shortly, lkeitlu lied and I called her on this lie :

"You have taken the last step in saying someone must die, not me. But these are the cold, hard, facts. We are too many."

I said no such thing. This is a lie. I never said someone must die. Lkeithlu lied.

Notice that I was successful in drawing out her stand on population control when lkeithlu wrote, not me :

".....someone must die, not me. But these are the cold, hard, facts. We are too many."

You are once again the dishonest one.

April 1, 2014 at 7:35 p.m.
conservative said...

You wrote:

"You have taken the last step in saying someone must die, not me. But these are the cold, hard, facts. We are too many."

You wrote EVERY one of those words.

Those are YOUR words and thus YOUR lie.

April 1, 2014 at 7:38 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Wrong again. I never mentioned death or killing. You did and the record of it is right here. Not that this is inconsistent with your record of misrepresenting stuff on this forum. Nothing I wrote is incorrect. You just don't like it.

April 1, 2014 at 7:44 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Normally your lunacy disrupts a comment thread. This appears to have been a conversation of two. You are willing to post the same crap over and over. I am done with this conversation. You can crow victory, but you can' t erase the evidence here of your dishonesty. I will not respond again. Enjoy your delusions.

April 1, 2014 at 7:47 p.m.
conservative said...

Nope,

You wrote:

"You have taken the last step in saying someone must die, not me. But these are the cold, hard, facts. We are too many."

You wrote EVERY one of those words.

Those are YOUR words and thus YOUR lie.

You are stuck with those words the words which you used to tell a lie.

Your lie is now a matter of record

April 1, 2014 at 7:48 p.m.
GaussianInteger said...

You're a liar (and I'm not basing that comment solely on your statements here, you have lied recently).

I'm done, I just wanted some torture today.

April 1, 2014 at 9:18 p.m.
conservative said...

Well, since you gave not one example, that would make you a liar.

April 2, 2014 at 8 a.m.
Hunter_Bluff said...

This exchange looks like Dope Con 6. I note that conservatives who wish to avoid change or laws claim "laws won't work". For example, can't do anything about climate change, can't have any limits on guns. Yet, they have no trouble passing laws and rules to try to eliminate what THEY are against, "can't have any homos running around, can't have women deciding to vote, determine when THEY bear children".

Discombobulated.

April 3, 2014 at 7:30 a.m.
conservative said...

Nothing smokes out Homosexuals/sodomites or those who are for Homosexuality/sodomy like Scripture or opinion against the gross sin of Homosexuality/sodomy.

April 3, 2014 at 12:34 p.m.

Nothing smokes out crazy closeted Homosexuals/sodomites or idiots who constantly whine about homosexuality/sodomy like silly belief in Scripture.

Allah told me that this morning over coffee and doughnuts at Krispy Kreme. My big brother speaks the truth.

April 3, 2014 at 12:51 p.m.
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