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This question is such a no brainer. YES, derf32 you nailed it...self-serving politicians for sure. How many politicians really give a flip about the citizens in this country? I have lived on this Earth long enough to have earned the right to be cynical about politics. Lobbying is fine, just "eliminate" the donations...which also makes me a dreamer.
“If a baseball player slides into home plate and, right before the umpire rules if he is safe or out, the player says to the umpire — ‘Here is $1,000.’ What would we call that? We would call that a bribe. If a lawyer was arguing a case before a judge and said, ‘Your honor before you decide on the guilt or innocence of my client, here is $1,000.’ What would we call that? We would call that a bribe.
“But if an industry lobbyist walks into the office of a key legislator and hands her or him a check for $1,000, we call that a campaign contribution. We should call it a bribe.”
— Janice Fine Dollars and Sense magazine
"But there will be no justice, there will be no government
of the people, by the people, and for the people, as long as the government and its officials permit bribery in any form."
-John Jay Hooker
"Among a people generally corrupt, liberty cannot long exist."
-Edmund Burke
"Here's the con game these pundits are playing: 'smaller government' doesn't mean fewer taxes for you and me... It means government of, by, and for corporations and inherited wealth rather than of, by, and for We the People." —Thom Hartmann
"The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite." —Dr. Lawrence Britt
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat - The Law
I feel that just limiting the money is not enough. Those slick lobbyists will find a way to shift the bribery over to something else of value if money itself is prohibited. They'll probably create a new form of simulated money, accessible only to rich people.
This question is such a no brainer. YES, derf32 you nailed it...self-serving politicians for sure. How many politicians really give a flip about the citizens in this country? I have lived on this Earth long enough to have earned the right to be cynical about politics. Lobbying is fine, just "eliminate" the donations...which also makes me a dreamer.
I would love to hear from the 8 (so far) who voted no. What possible justification would there be for allowing lobbyist to bribe our politicians?
It just occurred to me that the 8 who voted no are politicians.
Agreed...I voted NO.
“If a baseball player slides into home plate and, right before the umpire rules if he is safe or out, the player says to the umpire — ‘Here is $1,000.’ What would we call that? We would call that a bribe. If a lawyer was arguing a case before a judge and said, ‘Your honor before you decide on the guilt or innocence of my client, here is $1,000.’ What would we call that? We would call that a bribe. “But if an industry lobbyist walks into the office of a key legislator and hands her or him a check for $1,000, we call that a campaign contribution. We should call it a bribe.” — Janice Fine Dollars and Sense magazine
"But there will be no justice, there will be no government of the people, by the people, and for the people, as long as the government and its officials permit bribery in any form." -John Jay Hooker
"Among a people generally corrupt, liberty cannot long exist." -Edmund Burke
"Here's the con game these pundits are playing: 'smaller government' doesn't mean fewer taxes for you and me... It means government of, by, and for corporations and inherited wealth rather than of, by, and for We the People." —Thom Hartmann
"The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite." —Dr. Lawrence Britt
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat - The Law
I feel that just limiting the money is not enough. Those slick lobbyists will find a way to shift the bribery over to something else of value if money itself is prohibited. They'll probably create a new form of simulated money, accessible only to rich people.
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