Horton Herrin of Dalton needs to take his own advice and use verifiable facts before spewing off his ignorance.

What's really hypocritical and laughable are all those politicians in support of drug testing actually exempted themselves from being tested from drugs under this law.

And the Florida politician who first sponsored this bill has a big stake in the very lab that does the drug testing. He originally owned it or was some top head in the company. Then he signed everything over to this wife to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest. Plus, the drug testing won't prevent the individual from receiving aide. In Florida they assign the benefits to a family member as caretaker. You're all being had by these greedy lawmakers. They're laughing all the way to the bank and getting richer.

Ms. Corey said her office has handled hundreds of these self-defense cases — at least three or four every month. The law constantly challenges the authorities, with people citing it for everything from bar fights to road rage. “We’ve lost Stand Your Ground motions that in my experience showed the shooter should not have shot,” she said. “Stand Your Ground needs a second look.”

www.nytimes.com

Florida's running into several problems with the Stand Your Ground law.

Questionable Dismissed cases. One being appealed:

In the state's largest prosecutor's office, Miami-Dade County, the chief assistant state attorney, Kathleen Hoague, is appealing a recent Stand Your Ground case where the charges were dismissed. Hoague says it involves Greyston Garcia, a man who chased a suspected burglar for more than a block before catching him and stabbing him to death.

"He came from a position of safety and pursued this person," Hoague says. "The real issue is what happened at the time that they actually came together. But certainly it wasn't a situation where our dead person attacked him."

In her order, Judge Beth Bloom wrote that Garcia was, "well within his rights to pursue the victim and demand the return of his property."

In 2009, a judge dismissed assault charges against a Miami man who bolted out of his home and fired his rifle at two electric company employees. That same year, in another case, a high-speed chase involving two armed motorists ended with one of the drivers dead from gunshot wounds.

In that instance, a judge dismissed the charges because of Stand Your Ground.

In the Garcia case, Hoague believes the pursuit is evidence the defendant wasn't acting in self-defense.

www.npr.org

Or Marine Biologist Ernest Everett Just. Who believed the cure for many cancers lie in the study of marine animals. It would take another 50 to 60 years before science caught up with the idea that marine life may indeed hold the key to the cure of many forms of cancer.

jesse said... an armed society is a polite society!

take this t.f.p. forum for example!

IF we all were in a room together debating the issues and EVERYBODY had a gun! be a lot of "yessirs,nosirs,please,thankyou's and excuse me's goin around! would NOT be hearin nuttin about "libatards,repugnants,stupid, idiot,fleabagger or anything about fox news!

And you're just the right type fruitcake to actually believe that. Yeah! place a bunch of these posters in a room with guns, and on one will be left standing when the smoke settles.

An armed society is just what it's proving to be. A bunch of angry, hate filled, crazed, idiots itching to snap on somebody ANYBODY. And that's what's happening.

While y'all are going off the deep challenging one another to a dual, the idiots behind these armed to the hilt bill pushers are sitting somewhere on a tropical island, sipping mai tai with some young teeny bopper hanging onto their every word, laughing all the way to the bank off you suckers!

acerigger said... Why aren't the conservatives arguing that Trayvon Martin should have been armed?

Glad you brought that up, ace. My friends and I were discussing the same thing. We could hear them as we talked, "If Tryavon had only been armed with his own weapon, he could have possibly fought off what he preceived to be a would be attacker or kidnapper."

tu_quoque said... Why don’t you give some proof of these other eyewitnesses and their versions of what happened or this just some more of your usual B.S. that popped into your delusional and diseased brain? The eyewitness I referred to has already placed himself at risk of criminal charges by giving a statement to police. If he is shown to have lied to them he will be in legal jeopardy … so yes he was willing to take a “chance”.

So, for at least a brief moment, Trayvon Martin was able to fight off a potential kidnapper or predator he thought was trying to harm him? Either way, the only one who could claim self defense is Trayvon Martin if he'd survived.

A retired "white" teacher has already come forward to say she initially told the police she heard what sounded like the cries of a child crying out for help. The police, however, corrected her and told her those were the cries of Zimmerman and not Trayvon. And that's what he proceeded to place in his report.

mountainlaurel said... 01centare said: "The law actually provides that if a citizen so much as accidently bumps into a citizen coming out of say, Wal-Mart, K-Mart or just innocently walking down a sidewalk after leaving a convenience store that citizen can basically say they felt threaten and use deadly force. Why the rest of the world looks at America, no longer as the beacon of hope, but the land of fear, doom and dread."

Yes, I certainly agree, 01centare. I also suspect it’s only a matter of time before some of these street gangs catch up on these new “Stand Your Ground” laws sponsored by our friendly neighborhood Republicans. Indeed, the gangs just like self appointed vigilantes will soon be claiming that they only shot because they were acting in self-defense

You know, mountainlaurel, a group of friends and I were just sitting around yesterday discussing the very same thing.Why it's only a matter of time before some gang banger or some other criminal element attempts to use the same defense.

Thanks mountainlaurel. I believe there are 20 states with this license to murder STAND YOUR GROUND LAW. I know of at least five of them: Florida (of course), Georgia, Utah, Tennessee and Texas. The others shouldn't be at all difficult to figure out.

The law actually provides that if a citizen so much as accidently bumps into a citizen coming out of say, Wal-Mart, K-Mart or just innocently walking down a sidewalk after leaving a convenience store that citizen can basically say they felt threaten and use deadly force. Why the rest of the world looks at America, no longer as the beacon of hope, but the land of fear, doom and dread.