"Congress shall make no law" doesn't say squat about a state run university or the State of TN or the local community. This part of the First Amendment is due to the Church of England and the powers they derived from the government and in the government.
Once you let the Feds in your screwed. State of TN gave up its rights and now is beholden to the Feds. Chuck may be a problem, but every time we as a local community give up our sovereignty to a higher level of government we lose freedoms and opportunity.
So for the global warming doomsayers, in the 1930's there was a severe drought also. Was this drought brought on by global warming? and exactly what was mankind doing in the 1930's that created this global warming? In 1930 there were approx 2 billion people. Given your philosophy and more than 6 billion people on the earth today why haven't we utterly destroyed the planet?
Conservative - Your argument is strong and true and has never been debunked as others may say. Both the US Constitution and TN Constitutions are clear. Sorry some folks hate religion but keep your hatred to yourself.
Final note - " The First Amendment was not written to protect people and their laws from religious values. It was written to protect those values from government tyranny." When you understand how the first amendment came about you will realize this truth. Don't let your hatred of religion blind you. Jurisprudence was pre Constitution. Nowhere is jurisprudence noted in any pre Constitution arguments. The concept is clear in the Constitution. Twisting it does not change the written word. I won't reply to your minister selection as you have pulled out an incomplete phrase from a complete sentence.
I am aware of the TN State Constitution. Once again it does not say no religion in government. It says you cannot be compelled. Reading the clear language of the US Constitution and applying common sense = the Supreme Court decisions listed above are bad decisions. Since the court made a bad decision you are correct we have to fight to clear up that error. Unfortunately somehow we got into this case law type of situation instead of each judge going back to the Constitution instead of relying on some other idiots interpretation. I suggest you read the Constitution, and if you are still unclear read the Federalist papers. If you still have questions then go to the history of the founders and their actions in the years immediately after 1788
For the first 150 years or so both houses of Congress opened their sessions with prayer. Clearly this shows there is no separation of Church and State. Please reread your Constitution. Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
This is because the Church of England. The founders did not want another state sponsored religion. Additionally - This is at a Federal level. States per the 10th amendment can do anything they want as long as it does not conflict with the Constitution. And the 1st Amendment only speaks of Congress. Therefore the State of TN can have an official religion and prayer anywhere anytime. Please feel free to use some real facts to disprove this.
Your statements are seriously inaccurate. "Thomas Paine, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, John Quincy Adams, and George Washington were deists. All of the aforementioned names wrote in books and letters they authored an utter DISBELIEF in the bible as the word of God,"- I know you went to public school but George, Ben, and both Johns absolutely believed in God and our Creator. Now you can take certain statements they made and try to make yourself believe they were deists. But the facts over the course of their entire lives and body of work absolutely prove otherwise. Additionally Thomas Jefferson was not a deist but throughout his life challenged HIS OWN belief if a God. Same with Thomas Paine. Please go read a book and stop watching MSNBC.
UTC prayer decision is just
"Congress shall make no law" doesn't say squat about a state run university or the State of TN or the local community. This part of the First Amendment is due to the Church of England and the powers they derived from the government and in the government.
Fleischmann's intransigence
Once you let the Feds in your screwed. State of TN gave up its rights and now is beholden to the Feds. Chuck may be a problem, but every time we as a local community give up our sovereignty to a higher level of government we lose freedoms and opportunity.
Dangerous drought on doorstep
So for the global warming doomsayers, in the 1930's there was a severe drought also. Was this drought brought on by global warming? and exactly what was mankind doing in the 1930's that created this global warming? In 1930 there were approx 2 billion people. Given your philosophy and more than 6 billion people on the earth today why haven't we utterly destroyed the planet?
Prayer issue goes to court
Conservative - Your argument is strong and true and has never been debunked as others may say. Both the US Constitution and TN Constitutions are clear. Sorry some folks hate religion but keep your hatred to yourself.
Separating church, state
Final note - " The First Amendment was not written to protect people and their laws from religious values. It was written to protect those values from government tyranny." When you understand how the first amendment came about you will realize this truth. Don't let your hatred of religion blind you. Jurisprudence was pre Constitution. Nowhere is jurisprudence noted in any pre Constitution arguments. The concept is clear in the Constitution. Twisting it does not change the written word. I won't reply to your minister selection as you have pulled out an incomplete phrase from a complete sentence.
Separating church, state
Easy,
I am aware of the TN State Constitution. Once again it does not say no religion in government. It says you cannot be compelled. Reading the clear language of the US Constitution and applying common sense = the Supreme Court decisions listed above are bad decisions. Since the court made a bad decision you are correct we have to fight to clear up that error. Unfortunately somehow we got into this case law type of situation instead of each judge going back to the Constitution instead of relying on some other idiots interpretation. I suggest you read the Constitution, and if you are still unclear read the Federalist papers. If you still have questions then go to the history of the founders and their actions in the years immediately after 1788
Separating church, state
For the first 150 years or so both houses of Congress opened their sessions with prayer. Clearly this shows there is no separation of Church and State. Please reread your Constitution. Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
This is because the Church of England. The founders did not want another state sponsored religion. Additionally - This is at a Federal level. States per the 10th amendment can do anything they want as long as it does not conflict with the Constitution. And the 1st Amendment only speaks of Congress. Therefore the State of TN can have an official religion and prayer anywhere anytime. Please feel free to use some real facts to disprove this.
Community looks to revive prayer
Wildman,
Your statements are seriously inaccurate. "Thomas Paine, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, John Quincy Adams, and George Washington were deists. All of the aforementioned names wrote in books and letters they authored an utter DISBELIEF in the bible as the word of God,"- I know you went to public school but George, Ben, and both Johns absolutely believed in God and our Creator. Now you can take certain statements they made and try to make yourself believe they were deists. But the facts over the course of their entire lives and body of work absolutely prove otherwise. Additionally Thomas Jefferson was not a deist but throughout his life challenged HIS OWN belief if a God. Same with Thomas Paine. Please go read a book and stop watching MSNBC.