Unless the black community wants this negative image to continue to be their legacy generation after generation, it is up to them to step up to the plate and change their destiny by reaching out to their young more and criticizing them less. When one of their own work so hard to get elected to high office just to get a law passed against saggy pants, I find that tragic. Other racial and ethnic groups work to get elected to bring jobs and training to their people and communities to help lift themselves up out of poverty. Why work to get a law passed that makes your own people a target for even greater profiling and racial stereotyping than they already are? We're still shaking our heads over the lunacy of that one.
rosebud, youre link doesn't reveal anything I wasn't already aware. Removing students from one building to another isn't going to do away with a negative image. Wasn't that one of the excuses used, as if they were actually trying to do a favor?
The story link you pulled up is only one in many on the subject during and before the article you've linked. There were previous less friendly stories, basically admitting what they had in mind for both the students and their planned use for the building.
with no clear objective or end in sight
jonses, the above excerpt from your post proves just how confused you are. You've just described to perfection how Bush Jr and his team handled the invasions of both Iraq and Afghanistan.
No, it doesn't take much to start a war. However, you'd have to darn near start another war to stop one. The war hasn't ended in Iraq. Both civilians and U.S. military are still being blown up in Iraq. The Iraq war has ended only on paper and for future historical reference.
Idur, I can neither dispute it nor agree. Unlike you, I'll have to be honest. I don't know how much my tax dollar has been spent on either Howard school or any other school, and neither do you. 20 million is likely an exaggeration rather than an absolute. I do know there are fractions who have been on a mission to take such a historical building as Howard with such historical significance almost from the moment poor and working class blacks were gifted the building we now know as Howard. What name the building now known as Howard would have been called if the original intended recipients had wanted it we might never know.
I think it is you, Mr. Idur, who not only needs to do your own homework, but to also take a trip down history lane.
Idur, there were no plans to build another Howard in, around or anywhere near that area. You call the land there toxic, but developers see it a prime property. The school wasn't going to be torn down. the plan was to preserve it, and use it for multiple purposes. Possible in part a private school, where none of those original Howard students would have been allowed to return, unless they played sports of some kind.
All of that area south of Main, along with Main, has become prime property over the years that developes want to get their hands on. They can't do that as long as poor and poor working classes are living in the area.
We're all going do die from something at some point in time. That area is no more toxic than most any town in Ameirca that once relied heavily on manufacturing to create jobs. The reason why poor areas remain poor is there's nothing in them, job wise, to sustain them. When you do more to keep jobs out than to bring jobs in, communities start to decline and deteriorate. Within about 20 years, give or take, the entire area is in ruin.
rosebud, that's because your facts are seriously flawed. Yes, Howard turned down a new school from the County Commission in 2003, and it's a good thing they did. They county wanted to remove Howard students and make way for the suburbanites return. The new school would have been so far out in the boondocks those students would have been waiting at a bust stop at four a.m. to get there, and would have likely not have gotten back home until almost midnight. It was all suppose to be a part of the gentrification plans. Move the poor out, encourage the upper-middle classes who ran away in the 1970s to return.
The plan was to destroy the image of Howard, its students and the surrounding community those students come from in order to make their removal seem more justified.
joneses, could it be because the conflict in Afghanistan has picked up, where when Bush was in office the focus was more on Iraq? Military person, along with civilians, killed in Afghanistan were usually downplayed while the focus was on Iraq. Either way, President Obama inherited Bush and his regime's screw-ups. Bot Iraq and Afghanistan were started under Bush. It's easy to start a war, then gather up all your war toys and run home to Crawford Texas. The difficult part is ending one. You're logic is like the person who would blame the firefighters who attempt to put out the fire the arsonist started. Bus and his regime are the arsonist who lit the fires in the middle east. Even Bush Sr. tried to warn Jr. against his little adventure.
Isn't there an incident still pending in the courts where a SRO was in an inappropiate relationship with a student at one of those schools mentioned in the article? Why can't the schools go back to the use of hall monitors like they use to have in the schools? It would be a lot cheaper. Maybe the sheriff is thinking about the liability involved and the potential for lawsuits when lines are crossed.
"Barack Obama's Afghanistan apologies don't stop Islamic radicalism"
"Barack Obama's Afghanistan apologies don't stop Islamic radicalism"
Is it at all possible none of this alleged Islamic "radicalism" has anything to do with Islam, and everything to do with how the west, europe and their allies have committed war crimes so horrendous and outrageous in those middle eastern countries and parts of Africa that their acts defy logic, humanity and would shock both civilized, non-civilized/Christian and
non-Christian nations alike? dah!
Unfortunately, while the rest of the world knows what has taken place, westerners, europeans and the like are pretty much kept in the dark about has been committed on the pretense of ringing in democracy.
FPSE, those teachers at those "white-majjority" schools aren't going to allow little white johnny or sue who live in their neighborhood to fail, even if they have to cook the books to help'em pass. Neither when little white johnny or sue are caught smoking pot on campus or partaking in other antisocial activities will they have the law cal on them. Arrested, after first being tased. Children in inner city schools don't have that same protection. Children in inner city schools can be suspended for coming to class one minute after the bell rings. It doesn't matter if they locker was stuck and they were trying to retrieve a much needed book or paper for class. Children in inner city schools have been suspended because they didn't pass the ruler test. Meaning if the hem of their skirt failed the inch above the knee test they could be suspended. Children can't learn under such stressful conditions of uncertaintity where the rules can change daily, hourly or even from one minute to the next; one classroom to the next.