Simplistic Truthiness said, "Leaf 1:06. Accidentally swerved into the truth."
If I ever need you to tell me what the truth is, I'll know I'm ready for the Alzheimer's ward. You're one of the most partisan characters on this forum.
There are a certain percentage of people who identify with party first and issues second, if at all. Some on the left that reviled Bush for wiretapping are OK with Obama doing it. Some on the right that were OK with Bush doing it are having a cow now that Obama's doing it.
There are many from both (all) sides however, that don't like secret courts and spying on citizens no matter which party is doing it.
I voted for Obama twice. I'm very disappointed in him now.
I've never been a litmus-test voter. But from now on I'll vote for the candidates who want to roll back the Patriot Act and curtail the power of intelligence agencies and secret courts.
chatt_man, you're supposing that he might talk to them about it and that he might be able to tell them something they don't know already. He wasn't a hacker for the NSA. It's a pretty specialized field. You're judging him for something you think he might do.
Now, if he does give classified info to the Chinese voluntarily, that would change things. But so far there is no indication of that.
I don't think Snowden is a traitor. He did what he did not for monetary gain, or to benefit another country. He is a patriot who thinks the government is going down the wrong path. And unlike most of us, he was in the position and had the guts to do something about it. And, he leaked in such a way that no assets were put in harms way.
By the way, the assertion that Prism thwarted a bombing has been widely disputed. I'm not sure we'll really know the truth about that.
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PlainTruth said...
"untrue Leaf. Right down the middle. Belong to no party. You seem to be the party hack.
"Leaf: You should pay closer attention. I've sided with left of center positions often. Name one far, far, right thing I've said. You're angry, man."
That's funny. The truth-o-meter is spinning wildly and making an alarm sound.
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Yes, I'm a Democrat, no doubt. But I still have a mind of my own. I don't simply regurgitate things I find on a blog.
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Simplistic Truthiness, my impression of you is that you troll and paste. I don't recall seeing any insightful analysis from you.
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Simplistic Truthiness said, "Leaf 1:06. Accidentally swerved into the truth."
If I ever need you to tell me what the truth is, I'll know I'm ready for the Alzheimer's ward. You're one of the most partisan characters on this forum.
The Castle
There are a certain percentage of people who identify with party first and issues second, if at all. Some on the left that reviled Bush for wiretapping are OK with Obama doing it. Some on the right that were OK with Bush doing it are having a cow now that Obama's doing it.
There are many from both (all) sides however, that don't like secret courts and spying on citizens no matter which party is doing it.
Hannity and Biden are, of course, partisans.
LEFT TURNS: Dilemma of privacy vs. protection from terrorism
I voted for Obama twice. I'm very disappointed in him now.
I've never been a litmus-test voter. But from now on I'll vote for the candidates who want to roll back the Patriot Act and curtail the power of intelligence agencies and secret courts.
The Castle
chatt_man, you're supposing that he might talk to them about it and that he might be able to tell them something they don't know already. He wasn't a hacker for the NSA. It's a pretty specialized field. You're judging him for something you think he might do.
Now, if he does give classified info to the Chinese voluntarily, that would change things. But so far there is no indication of that.
The Castle
Maximus, classy as always.
The Castle
By the way, remember the Valerie Plame affair? That was way more evil than what Snowden did.
WHAT!?!?!?! The US and China engage in cyberattacks? I'm shocked. That's not even close to being a secret.
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I don't think Snowden is a traitor. He did what he did not for monetary gain, or to benefit another country. He is a patriot who thinks the government is going down the wrong path. And unlike most of us, he was in the position and had the guts to do something about it. And, he leaked in such a way that no assets were put in harms way.
By the way, the assertion that Prism thwarted a bombing has been widely disputed. I'm not sure we'll really know the truth about that.