"As Thomas Jefferson said: as long as it does not break my bones or pick my pocket. In this case of the cheerleaders, no harm was done to anyone until the government school officials forced their religious beliefs on the cheerleaders by banning them from expressing their religious beliefs. The law was broken by the school officials not the cheerleaders."
What convoluted crap. By displaying scripture on property my tax dollars helped purchase and maintain and against my wishes you are picking my pocket.
I found this on another website and it seemed apropos to restate it here edited very slightly.
The world is full of people who subscribe to certain philosophies, or undertake specific behavioral patterns. You just don't cross into offensive territory until you can't shut the hell up about it, because you think the way that you feel on a given issue makes you somehow better than people who disagree with you.
Christianity is a "certain philosophy". I understand that many Christians would disagree with that but in the larger sense, thats exactly what it is. No more and no less. Christians no more have cornered the market on religion and any hereafter than Buddhists, Taoists, Jews or even Athiests. They think they're right and everyone else is wrong, except to them they know they're right and everyone else is wrong.
Speak freely in your home and church or office even.
Not in a public place that my tax dollars paid for as much as yours.
How can you not see that I also have a right to be free of your god in a public place that my tax dollars paid for as much as yours?
As Crittycake said, put the word for word inspirational message on the sign and leave your god out of it and there's no problem at all.
People have been promising that HE will come for as long as there have been people and HIM. You can promise all you want; it isn't going to make it happen. I refuse to believe that you are right about this and the majority of citizens of the world are wrong.
If some of you who keep repeating that our founding fathers intended this to be a christian nation would go back to words of Franklin and Jefferson where they specifically indicated that it was freedom FROM religion they were after when establishing a secular society.
Most people who agree that the signs should not be displayed on school property during public events do not want to burn your Bibles, do not want to convert you to another religion or turn athiest. They just want you to leave us alone by refraining from displaying Bible verses on property and at functions that our tax dollars pay for.
You have homes and churches to do that. Why do you feel the need to put your Christianity and practice thereof in our faces. We live here too, we pay taxes too and we don't want your god and saviour displayed all over our public places.
It's funny; I can't drive 5 miles without being offended by multiple billboards advertising various brands of salvation. Thats fine; I understand that it's not my right not to be offended by what appears on private property. It is my right to not be offended by religion on PUBLIC property as difficult as that concept is for some folks to understand. I recall a huge amount of Christian outrage directed at a billboard offering an athiest viewpoint in Florida.
Are you that insecure in your beliefs that you feel the need to foist them on others at every opportunity? Or are you so certain that you are right and the rest of the millions and millions of people who don't share your viewpoint are wrong and you're just trying to save us? Either way, please stop it.
Cheerleaders’ religious signs draw fire
"As Thomas Jefferson said: as long as it does not break my bones or pick my pocket. In this case of the cheerleaders, no harm was done to anyone until the government school officials forced their religious beliefs on the cheerleaders by banning them from expressing their religious beliefs. The law was broken by the school officials not the cheerleaders."
What convoluted crap. By displaying scripture on property my tax dollars helped purchase and maintain and against my wishes you are picking my pocket.
Cheerleaders’ religious signs draw fire
What a great thread.
I found this on another website and it seemed apropos to restate it here edited very slightly.
The world is full of people who subscribe to certain philosophies, or undertake specific behavioral patterns. You just don't cross into offensive territory until you can't shut the hell up about it, because you think the way that you feel on a given issue makes you somehow better than people who disagree with you.
Christianity is a "certain philosophy". I understand that many Christians would disagree with that but in the larger sense, thats exactly what it is. No more and no less. Christians no more have cornered the market on religion and any hereafter than Buddhists, Taoists, Jews or even Athiests. They think they're right and everyone else is wrong, except to them they know they're right and everyone else is wrong.
Cheerleaders’ religious signs draw fire
Hey Samantha,
Speak freely in your home and church or office even.
Not in a public place that my tax dollars paid for as much as yours.
How can you not see that I also have a right to be free of your god in a public place that my tax dollars paid for as much as yours?
As Crittycake said, put the word for word inspirational message on the sign and leave your god out of it and there's no problem at all.
People have been promising that HE will come for as long as there have been people and HIM. You can promise all you want; it isn't going to make it happen. I refuse to believe that you are right about this and the majority of citizens of the world are wrong.
Cheerleaders’ religious signs draw fire
What a fun thread to read.
If some of you who keep repeating that our founding fathers intended this to be a christian nation would go back to words of Franklin and Jefferson where they specifically indicated that it was freedom FROM religion they were after when establishing a secular society.
Most people who agree that the signs should not be displayed on school property during public events do not want to burn your Bibles, do not want to convert you to another religion or turn athiest. They just want you to leave us alone by refraining from displaying Bible verses on property and at functions that our tax dollars pay for.
You have homes and churches to do that. Why do you feel the need to put your Christianity and practice thereof in our faces. We live here too, we pay taxes too and we don't want your god and saviour displayed all over our public places.
It's funny; I can't drive 5 miles without being offended by multiple billboards advertising various brands of salvation. Thats fine; I understand that it's not my right not to be offended by what appears on private property. It is my right to not be offended by religion on PUBLIC property as difficult as that concept is for some folks to understand. I recall a huge amount of Christian outrage directed at a billboard offering an athiest viewpoint in Florida.
Are you that insecure in your beliefs that you feel the need to foist them on others at every opportunity? Or are you so certain that you are right and the rest of the millions and millions of people who don't share your viewpoint are wrong and you're just trying to save us? Either way, please stop it.