conservative said..."Our economy is dependent on the profit motive. People who go into business seek to make a profit. They will not risk their capital unless they think they can make a profit."
Right. But, when it comes to health care, 1) as I noted above, many of the service providers and some of the insurance companies are chartered as not-for-profit organizations; 2) I don't think there is any compelling data to suggest that a free market solution will yield ensure better health care; and, 3) a truly free market solution would price half or more of our population out of health care.
And, as a footnote, if you are paying for your health care and paying for your health insurance (or receive health insurance as an employment benefit) you already are paying for the health care of other folks who can't afford it - it's called cost shifting. In my opinion, a single payer solution would be a better and more honest way for all of us to share the cost of universal health care than the current system that inflates to cost of health care for those who can pay for it to cover the costs for those who cannot.
Rickaroo said..."MTJ, you are the contradictory, nonsensical one."
Rickaroo - with one post you suggest that Obama is a Marxist and with the next you said he wasn't. Either your first post was tongue in cheek and I missed it, or you contradicted yourself.
conservative said..."You truly have the mind of a Marxist. Companies which don't make profits go out of business everyday. Now think about the results of that."
Conservative - what is your basis for assuming that our health care should be delivered by a "business"? The largest health care provider in my community is organized as a "not for profit". Likewise, Blue Cross/Blue Shield and other insurance providers are organized as "not for profit". Certainly, not for profits need to break even, while paying their employees fair wages. But, by definition, they are not organized for the purpose of making profit - even though many seem to function that way.
Rickaroo said..."Oh lordy....here we go again with more of the "marxist" talk from FPSE. Yes, there's no doubt that demon Obama is itching to usher in a marxist state here in America - the number one fear of the right wing."
Rickaroo - except to parrot right-wing talk radio, you do not understand the definition of "marxism" and, thus, do not know how to objectively compare President Obama's policies with that political philosophy. And, if you make the effort to look up the definition of "marxism", you might also check on the definition of its antonym because it just might be where your favorite talking heads are coming from.
conservative said..."It is so noble, so wonderful and so easy to be generous with other peoples money. Emotion most often will prevail over reason in the mind of a Lieberal."
As our health system currently works, it is more important that its various components function as profit centers than care for the medical needs of patients. I do not equate greed with reason.
Conservative - some of us advocate universal health care. Some of us think that the primary beneficiary of our system of health care ought to be patients, not shareholders. Nobody is advocating free health care.
Bennett Archive: Justice
This cartoon should read equal justice under the law for wealthy male heterosexuals for northern European descent.
Bennett Archive: Diagnostics
Rickaroo - thanks for the explanation and my apology for the misunderstanding.
Bennett Archive: Diagnostics
conservative said..."Our economy is dependent on the profit motive. People who go into business seek to make a profit. They will not risk their capital unless they think they can make a profit."
Right. But, when it comes to health care, 1) as I noted above, many of the service providers and some of the insurance companies are chartered as not-for-profit organizations; 2) I don't think there is any compelling data to suggest that a free market solution will yield ensure better health care; and, 3) a truly free market solution would price half or more of our population out of health care.
And, as a footnote, if you are paying for your health care and paying for your health insurance (or receive health insurance as an employment benefit) you already are paying for the health care of other folks who can't afford it - it's called cost shifting. In my opinion, a single payer solution would be a better and more honest way for all of us to share the cost of universal health care than the current system that inflates to cost of health care for those who can pay for it to cover the costs for those who cannot.
Bennett Archive: Diagnostics
Rickaroo said..."MTJ, you are the contradictory, nonsensical one."
Rickaroo - with one post you suggest that Obama is a Marxist and with the next you said he wasn't. Either your first post was tongue in cheek and I missed it, or you contradicted yourself.
Bennett Archive: Diagnostics
conservative said..."You truly have the mind of a Marxist. Companies which don't make profits go out of business everyday. Now think about the results of that."
Conservative - what is your basis for assuming that our health care should be delivered by a "business"? The largest health care provider in my community is organized as a "not for profit". Likewise, Blue Cross/Blue Shield and other insurance providers are organized as "not for profit". Certainly, not for profits need to break even, while paying their employees fair wages. But, by definition, they are not organized for the purpose of making profit - even though many seem to function that way.
Rickaroo - you contradicted yourself, big time.
Bennett Archive: Diagnostics
Rickaroo said..."Oh lordy....here we go again with more of the "marxist" talk from FPSE. Yes, there's no doubt that demon Obama is itching to usher in a marxist state here in America - the number one fear of the right wing."
Rickaroo - except to parrot right-wing talk radio, you do not understand the definition of "marxism" and, thus, do not know how to objectively compare President Obama's policies with that political philosophy. And, if you make the effort to look up the definition of "marxism", you might also check on the definition of its antonym because it just might be where your favorite talking heads are coming from.
Bennett Archive: Diagnostics
conservative said..."It is so noble, so wonderful and so easy to be generous with other peoples money. Emotion most often will prevail over reason in the mind of a Lieberal."
As our health system currently works, it is more important that its various components function as profit centers than care for the medical needs of patients. I do not equate greed with reason.
Bennett Archive: Diagnostics
Conservative - some of us advocate universal health care. Some of us think that the primary beneficiary of our system of health care ought to be patients, not shareholders. Nobody is advocating free health care.
Bennett Archive: Diagnostics
Andrew....and the second law is like the first, love your neighbor as yourself.
Deregulation
Self government without self control won't work. People who advocate deregulation lack self control.