Personally, conservative comes across as someone who isn't interested in helping someone who wants everything given to him or herself. The Bible never commands anyone to support anyone else who refuses to at least try to parlay that support into bettering themselves.
Oh, and for all the libs freely quoting the Bible in your apples-to-oranges comparison (No one is saying the poor shouldn't be helped. They're/we're saying the people who refuse to help themselves shouldn't be given handouts. If you can't comprehend that fine line, you should probably...no, you should DEFINITELY seek further education), if you have ever cried against the use of anything Biblical in any other discussion regarding government, you are the pure definition of a hypocrite.
InquiringMind, have you ever heard the adage "Give a man fish, and he'll eat for a day; teach a man to fish, and he'll eat for a lifetime."? Maybe you think that if we give people fish(money) for long enough, then they'll eventually teach themselves to fish(work)?
It's not poor people anyone has a problem with. It's lazy people who refuse to work, and instead game the system (aka steal from those who earn for a living). Despite what you might say, based on a lack of witnessing it, it does happen, and quite often. I used to work a job that put me into contact with a significant amount of these people on a daily basis, and they're actually quite happy to admit that what they're doing.
I (and others like me, I'm sure) didn't just one day wake up and think "Hey, I bet a bunch of people are gaming the system." I know a bunch of people are gaming the system, because I've witnessed it.
Plain Truth said:
"^^^wonder how many "names" Chet has? HAHAHAHA"
He has but one name. His grammar skills are so atrocious, they are his own identifier.
Sometimes I seriously wonder if Clay Bennett has a mental deficiency. Forcing people to take the legally mandated path to citizenship, as opposed to sneaking in illegally, is not a bad thing.
It's been proven time and time again that raising taxes has, at best, a revenue-neutral effect over the long term. Many times, depending on the specific taxes that are raised, it lowers aggregate revenue. When businesses get taxed out of business and people lose jobs, they have no income to tax, thereby resulting in less revenue for the gov't (which would be wasted anyway). That was what I was getting at when I said that I didn't believe nucanuck started a business. He would be the first small-business owner I have ever met or even heard of that thinks we aren't taxed enough. Small businesses are shutting down left and right because of being over-taxed, and somehow you think raising taxes even higher will get us out of debt?!?!
But for argument's sake, I'll pretend raising taxes will definitely increase revenue. That being the case, do you really think the the solution to us getting out of debt is having even MORE money taken from us and given to the government? The same government that got us in debt in the first place? What is wrong with you? The government is about as good at managing money as a 3 year old. I believe it was Milton Friedman that said "If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there would be a shortage of sand." Truer words have never been spoken.
And no, taxes, by themselves, aren't socialist, but taxing to the point of what nucanuck apparently prefers IS socialist. By you taking what I said and coming to the conclusion that I think taxes are socialist, you demonstrated one of many things that is so very wrong with the extremists on either end of the political spectrum. You take a statement, disregard its actual meaning, and try to mold it into absurdity. You are truly pathetic.
Wow, I just saw where nucanuck just said we are all under taxed. Pardon me while I pick my jaw up off of the floor. So glad he (allegedly) moved to Canada. It's mindsets like his that are running this country into the ground. What an impotent, socialist fool. I don't believe for a SECOND that he started any business, not with that mindset.
Careful nucanuck, don't strain a muscle blowing your own horn there. You seem to be taking a page out of Manti Te'o's playbook and fabricating a bunch of stuff to make yourself look good. I have developed the ability to fly, be invisible, be 13 places at once, and bring logic into the thought processes of the far left and far right. There, even though everything I said is impossible, my statements hold just as much water as yours. This is the internet, bragging about what you supposedly did does nothing but make you look silly, especially since you're a grandfather.