mymy quoted: "The Obama Administration and its Auto Task Force had made clear throughout the GM and Chrysler bankruptcy process that UAW members would be given preferential treatment over other, less politically favored, classes."
I realize that this was not your statement, but I want someone...anyone, to back up the claim that the President or anyone in his administration "favored UAW members" in any way.
On March 30, 2009, the President held a press conference to announce his administration's plan to pick up where the GWB administration had left off in saving GM & Chrysler.
In that speech, he categorically stated, "What we’re asking for is difficult. It will require hard choices by companies. It will require unions and workers who have already made extraordinarily painful concessions to do more."
"Let me be clear: The United States government has no interest in running GM. We have no intention of running GM. What we are interested in is giving GM an opportunity to finally make those much-needed changes that will let them emerge from this crisis a stronger and more competitive company."
FACT SHEET: Obama Administration Restructuring Initiative for General Motors - March 31, 2009
"· The UAW has made important concessions on compensation and retiree health care that, while difficult, will help save jobs for active employees, pensions and health care for retirees, and make GM more competitive. In virtually every respect, the concessions that the UAW agreed to are more aggressive than what the Bush Administration originally demanded in its loan agreement with GM."
Jesse wrote: "WELL i was all primed to vote for Obama and then alprova layed his wisdom on our a$$ and now i'm thinkin maybe Romney is startin to look good!(or at least a lot better!)"
All that proves is that you base your opinion of a candidate on what other people write, and are incapable of arriving at an opinion on your own.
"BTW: moonpie! alprova and b.r.p. have the same mindset!"
Further proof that you do not comprehend what you read.
"brp is a redneck!(and prowd of it!) alprova on the other hand is a pompus elitist jerk!(legend in his own mind type dude!!)"
Feel free at any time to dispense some meaningful thoughts of your own at any time.
"they both have the answers!(in their own minds!) while they differ on what the answers are they KNOW IN THEIR OWN MIND that their answer it THE REAL TRUE WAY!! THAT was what i was tryin to get across!"
You REALLY need to brush up on your comprehension skills.
JonRoss wrote: "Barry seized GM and laid off thousands."
You're just full of ignorance, aren't you? The President made not one decision related to the reorganization of General Motors. He did not approve nor reject anything that was a part of the plan submitted to the Treasury as part of their assisted bankruptcy filing.
"Most of the dealerships forced to close were owned by GOP sympathetic owners."
I'd love to read any source that you could cite that would begin to back up that asinine claim.
"Crass politcal bullcrap."
Yes indeed, you seem to be full of it, right up to your eyeballs.
"Venture capital using tax payer funds."
Do a little research into the matter to discover that Venture Capitalism is being instituted not only by the Federal Government, but by state and local governments all across the nation, as a means save failing and fledgling companies, in order to boost employment.
Goodness knows that people have given up on the Republican and Tea Party promises made two years ago to right the economy.
"Barry and the Union still owe us 35 billion."
Your information is a little out of date. As of February, if the Government were to cash in all the stock being held in the company, the balance owed at that point would be about $14 billion.
And again, had all those jobs went the wayside, the Federal Government would have paid out three to four times that amount in unemployment compensation by this point.
The decision to save GM also saved the taxpayers of this nation a great deal of money.
Here's a little tidbit of information for all you Obama bashers to chew on.
Mitt Romney defenders have touted a success rate of around 80%-85% in terms of the companies that were saved while he was at Bain Capital.
Since people are so willing to attach Solyndra to the hip of the President, why not tell the rest of the story?
The Energy Department under the Obama Administration has made loans to a total of 32 companies to develop renewable energy products. Solyndra went bankrupt. To the best of my research, the other 31 companies are all still in operation. That's nearly a 97% success rate.
Over the last twenty years, the Government's track record in investing in alternative energy related companies has been rather remarkable. It has lost only 94 cents out of every 100 dollars loaned out or that it guaranteed when invested by others.
Overall, 75,000 jobs have been created as a result of the Department of Energy's loan program. Home weatherization grew 1000% from April to June of 2011, creating 14,800 jobs.
The Obama administration has launched the "Better Buildings Initiative," a program that has already secured billions of private dollars to renovate more than 4 billion square feet of public and private buildings over the next two years, which will be creating 100,000 jobs.
Mooonpie wrote: "I'm liberal to the core, but for the life of me I don't understand how we can bash Romney for buying, leveraging and even scrapping companies for a profit. I may have wish he made different decisions along the way, but as long as he didn't break the law or infringe on the rights of others, I'll give him a pass."
I'm definitely in agreement with you on this one. Romney's past at Bain Capital is of little interest to me. I don't have any problem with the money he made, or nor am I interested in knowing how many businesses that were liquidated while he was there. That too is part of the business he was involved with.
At the same time, I am not impressed with his claim that his experience and years at Bain Capital give him any edge to lead this nation as President. Nothing he did at Bain will be part of what he will be doing as President, with the exception of making executive decisions.
"I'm not convinced his experience is in "turning thing around". Sometimes Bain did that, but profit was the motive. Since government is not and should not be in the profit business, I'm not exactly how his experience at Bain will help America."
Exactly.
"Clearly he knows how to get richer. The question is what can he do for the country?"
When it comes right down to it, if his record as Governor of Massachusetts is any indication of what can be expected, a good description would be Obama light.
If he were elected, he could easily slip back into old habits, forgetting much of what he has said on the campaign trail. Most politicians do this to some degree.
"Between the two, I do think Obama is foreword thinking. I actually think Romney is pretty liberal at heart. He's acted that way as governor, but not as a candidate."
I firmly believe that if Romney is elected, he will not turn out to be the staunch Republican/Conservative that the right-wingers are hoping he will be.
I also believe that a good deal of right-wing voters are remotely aware of that probability too. That's why there will be a bunch of folks holding their noses while they cast their votes this November.
conservative wrote: "Will the loontoonist ignore Memorial Day tomorrow or will he depict the American soldier in an unfavorable light?"
If that's what you think, you haven't been paying attention. Mr. Bennett has never depicted an American Soldier in an unfavorable light. He's certainly been guilty of criticizing military brass, and rightfully so.
Why don't you go find your Bible and cherry pick a few verses to throw out there?
JonRoss wrote: "Alprova, the God King's "rescue" of GM cost thousands of auto industry jobs. And it was carried out with taxpayer dollars."
Dealer closings were going to happen no matter how it played out. To say that the closings were carried out with taxpayer dollars, is just plain ignorant.
"GM would have been dismembered and the separate parts would have been worth far more than it is worth now. The number of jobs created by the spinoffs would have skyrocketed."
What spinoffs? Not one auto company in the world expressed so much as a minute's worth of interest in buying any or all of GM.
"The only job preservation intended were Union jobs and thats why thousands of non Union jobs were destroyed."
You do realize that the GM bailout began in 2008 while former President George W. Bush was in office, don't you? Do you think that he was aiding only union workers too?
You can type it a million times and you will never be able to back it up with an iota of proof. The UAW gave up immense ground to preserve their jobs.
"If you subtract 35 billion still owed by GM to the American people, the company has a net negative value."
So? The stock has steadily risen over the past year. Look it up. Were you expecting miracles to occur within the first year or two after it went public again?
I'm like the Gov't. I'm in it for the long haul. I have quite a few shares riding out there too, although I bought mine at a cheaper price than the Gov't did.
It likely will rise to a point, perhaps in a year or two in the future, where the Government's stock in GM can be sold at a profit.
"You still buying weed from Barry?"
The cocaine charges never stuck to Bush, and the American people have an attention span of a few days at best. People don't react to those kind of accusations the way they used to.
BTW, just for kicks, how much pot have you smoked during your lifetime? Chances are, you have toked a bit of it too. 100 million people or 40% of the population of this nation have smoked it at least once during their lifetime.
dfclapp wrote: "Fortunately for the Democrats, Obama has no ethics when it comes to electioneering. (snipped)"
Back-stabbing and hypocrisy during political campaigning is typical politics these days.
Given the kind of attacks that Romney had to endure to emerge the front-runner in his own party, I truly find any political fallout by the Obama camp to be rather tame, so far anyway.
Romney has been responsible for several zingers of his own.
Comparing his record on spending to that of the President, he made that claim that "We were able to cut back on the size of government. Actually, we didn't just slow the rate of growth of our government, we actually cut it. We pulled back on the spending of our state."
Politifact rated that statement to be totally false.
Mitt Romney is rather vulnerable when it comes to criticizing Obamacare as well.
He has personally attacked the President for being "the only president to ever cut $500 billion from Medicare." It's a totally false statement.
A reduction in spending called for in the plan does not translate into a "cut."
"Swift-boating Romney by lemon-picking the small percentage of firms that eventually failed (as opposed to the vast majority that succeeded) is simply par for his course."
Nit-picking and taking things totally out of context is politics too. No man on the planet has been more victimized by that strategy than Barack Obama.
Considering that Mitt Romney has repeatedly held up his experience at Bain Capital as proof that he is better-suited than the President to revive the struggling U.S. economy, he has set himself up for any and all criticism that has come forth.
"Obama hismself is at 50% (GM and Solyndra) with taxpayers left holding the bag in both."
I repeat emphatically, that no one can lay the Solyndra mess at the feet of the President and hold a straight face. He had nothing at all to do with what happened.
His involvement with salvaging GM only amounted to making a public statement that the Government's assistance would not favor any concerned party over another and that everyone involved would have to sacrifice.
Anyone else not directly affected by the potential collapse of the company disagreeing with what was done is irrelevant and totally pointless.
Given the situation at the time, the sheer number of jobs that were on the line, and the fact that other bankruptcy option alternatives were not on the table which would have preserved those jobs, it was a decision that has paid off handsomely.
Had the Government not assisted GM, it would have closed forever and been sold off to satisfy creditors. The unemployment compensation that would have had to have been paid out by the Government would have eclipsed several times over, that which will be eventually lost on the deal.
You're totally incapable of controlling yourself when it comes to your obsession with lobbing commentary at Mr. Bennett, aren't you?
I happen to think that you are a total loon, but you don't see me posting that about you every single time that you post something.
Your one man war that you are waging against Mr. Bennett will never result in a satisfactory strike, so why don't you take up another, more realistic hobby, like needlepoint?
Just when I think that you could not get any more pathetic, you post again.
TOES02800 wrote: "I never said Obama wasn't born American!! I do however, believe he's a Muslim!"
Of course. You probably also believe that the man regularly attended the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago for 20 years, just in case he might some day run for President of the United States, and would be in need of a cover to hide his Muslim faith.
48 and a half years ago, several people conspired to insert birth announcements in two Honolulu, Hawaii newspapers, announcing his Hawaiian birth, despite being born in Kenya, because they knew that he would one day run for President and would need to prove that he was born in the United States.
Does that just about cover your belief that the President isn't all that he claims to be?
"And as a Muslim, he hates the infidels (Americans)! He believes this is an unjust country from it's founding!! And he believes that America only became great off the backs of the rest of the world."
Uh huh...
"That's why the very first thing he did as president was to go off on his American apology tour of the world. He's as anti-American as one can get! And now he's running his campaign against capitalism."
Uh Huh...
"The liberal news only mentioned John Kerry's wealth three times in the same three month period before the election. So far, the same networks have mentioned Romney's wealth 27 times. Not biased now are we?"
Oh brother...you're way out there. Everything is a conspiracy, isn't it?
Rick1 wrote: "Al when you talk about big oil paying off our politicians are you talking Obama being paid off as well?"
No. I was referring to members of Congress, and mainly Republicans, who have worked relentlessly on behalf of oil interests.
"The New York Times reports: "those who donated the most to Mr. Obama and the Democratic Party since he started running for president were far more likely to visit the White House than others."
You know, this crap is dredged up regarding every President that has graced the Oval Office.
So what? If someone wants to waste their money to get an invite to the White House, more power to them.
"These people also produce other types of energy besides fossil fuel and oil companies employee hundrerd of thousands of people. I don't care what if they care one whit for me."
Well, you should, because one day, and no one knows when that will be for sure, the ground is going to run dry. Your once dependable, gas burning motor vehicle will become a glorified yard ornament and quick.
What will you do then?
"But since you have such strong feelings about big oil stop purchasing their product."
You'd be quite surprised at how little gasoline that I purchase in an average month. Unlike most Americans, I don't live in my motor vehicles. I use about a tank of gas per month.
"Do you thinbk Solyandra gave a crap about you when the too $500 million of tax payer money knowing they were not going to make it any ways."
I know I can't read people's minds, especially from 3,000 miles away. I don't think you can either. That being said, we both know that the loan was totally not deserved nor should it have ever been approved by those who did.
I'd like to think that those who were running the company had nothing but good intentions and that they wanted to make a go of the business.
There is little evidence that anyone made off with a bundle of money.
"But seriously Al since you have such strong feelings against big oil then you have a ethical and moral obligation to stop purchasing their products and that includes all oil base products."
Look, I don't have strong feelings against big oil companies, but I do have a realistic outlook when it comes to the fact that they have a vested interest in prolonging a dependency by as many people as possible on their products.
For certain, they do not want to go the way of the buggy whip. Who can blame them? But at some point, logic has to rule the day. Oil is not an infinite resource and the world is consuming it at an astronomical rate. It WILL eventually be depleted.
The time to begin to compensate for that eventuality is long past due. I'll probably be dead and gone when it does happen, but I have many family members who will be left on this Earth. I'm sure you do too.
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mymy quoted: "The Obama Administration and its Auto Task Force had made clear throughout the GM and Chrysler bankruptcy process that UAW members would be given preferential treatment over other, less politically favored, classes."
I realize that this was not your statement, but I want someone...anyone, to back up the claim that the President or anyone in his administration "favored UAW members" in any way.
On March 30, 2009, the President held a press conference to announce his administration's plan to pick up where the GWB administration had left off in saving GM & Chrysler.
In that speech, he categorically stated, "What we’re asking for is difficult. It will require hard choices by companies. It will require unions and workers who have already made extraordinarily painful concessions to do more."
"Let me be clear: The United States government has no interest in running GM. We have no intention of running GM. What we are interested in is giving GM an opportunity to finally make those much-needed changes that will let them emerge from this crisis a stronger and more competitive company."
FACT SHEET: Obama Administration Restructuring Initiative for General Motors - March 31, 2009
"· The UAW has made important concessions on compensation and retiree health care that, while difficult, will help save jobs for active employees, pensions and health care for retirees, and make GM more competitive. In virtually every respect, the concessions that the UAW agreed to are more aggressive than what the Bush Administration originally demanded in its loan agreement with GM."
Sources: http://allthatnatters.com/2009/03/30/full-text-president-barack-obama-statement-on-gm-chrysler-bailout-status-auto-task-force-march-30/
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2009/06/general_motors_bailout_over_vi.html
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Jesse wrote: "WELL i was all primed to vote for Obama and then alprova layed his wisdom on our a$$ and now i'm thinkin maybe Romney is startin to look good!(or at least a lot better!)"
All that proves is that you base your opinion of a candidate on what other people write, and are incapable of arriving at an opinion on your own.
"BTW: moonpie! alprova and b.r.p. have the same mindset!"
Further proof that you do not comprehend what you read.
"brp is a redneck!(and prowd of it!) alprova on the other hand is a pompus elitist jerk!(legend in his own mind type dude!!)"
Feel free at any time to dispense some meaningful thoughts of your own at any time.
"they both have the answers!(in their own minds!) while they differ on what the answers are they KNOW IN THEIR OWN MIND that their answer it THE REAL TRUE WAY!! THAT was what i was tryin to get across!"
You REALLY need to brush up on your comprehension skills.
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I missed this gem earlier today...
JonRoss wrote: "Barry seized GM and laid off thousands."
You're just full of ignorance, aren't you? The President made not one decision related to the reorganization of General Motors. He did not approve nor reject anything that was a part of the plan submitted to the Treasury as part of their assisted bankruptcy filing.
"Most of the dealerships forced to close were owned by GOP sympathetic owners."
I'd love to read any source that you could cite that would begin to back up that asinine claim.
"Crass politcal bullcrap."
Yes indeed, you seem to be full of it, right up to your eyeballs.
"Venture capital using tax payer funds."
Do a little research into the matter to discover that Venture Capitalism is being instituted not only by the Federal Government, but by state and local governments all across the nation, as a means save failing and fledgling companies, in order to boost employment.
Goodness knows that people have given up on the Republican and Tea Party promises made two years ago to right the economy.
"Barry and the Union still owe us 35 billion."
Your information is a little out of date. As of February, if the Government were to cash in all the stock being held in the company, the balance owed at that point would be about $14 billion.
And again, had all those jobs went the wayside, the Federal Government would have paid out three to four times that amount in unemployment compensation by this point.
The decision to save GM also saved the taxpayers of this nation a great deal of money.
Here's a little tidbit of information for all you Obama bashers to chew on.
Mitt Romney defenders have touted a success rate of around 80%-85% in terms of the companies that were saved while he was at Bain Capital.
Since people are so willing to attach Solyndra to the hip of the President, why not tell the rest of the story?
The Energy Department under the Obama Administration has made loans to a total of 32 companies to develop renewable energy products. Solyndra went bankrupt. To the best of my research, the other 31 companies are all still in operation. That's nearly a 97% success rate.
Over the last twenty years, the Government's track record in investing in alternative energy related companies has been rather remarkable. It has lost only 94 cents out of every 100 dollars loaned out or that it guaranteed when invested by others.
Overall, 75,000 jobs have been created as a result of the Department of Energy's loan program. Home weatherization grew 1000% from April to June of 2011, creating 14,800 jobs.
The Obama administration has launched the "Better Buildings Initiative," a program that has already secured billions of private dollars to renovate more than 4 billion square feet of public and private buildings over the next two years, which will be creating 100,000 jobs.
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Mooonpie wrote: "I'm liberal to the core, but for the life of me I don't understand how we can bash Romney for buying, leveraging and even scrapping companies for a profit. I may have wish he made different decisions along the way, but as long as he didn't break the law or infringe on the rights of others, I'll give him a pass."
I'm definitely in agreement with you on this one. Romney's past at Bain Capital is of little interest to me. I don't have any problem with the money he made, or nor am I interested in knowing how many businesses that were liquidated while he was there. That too is part of the business he was involved with.
At the same time, I am not impressed with his claim that his experience and years at Bain Capital give him any edge to lead this nation as President. Nothing he did at Bain will be part of what he will be doing as President, with the exception of making executive decisions.
"I'm not convinced his experience is in "turning thing around". Sometimes Bain did that, but profit was the motive. Since government is not and should not be in the profit business, I'm not exactly how his experience at Bain will help America."
Exactly.
"Clearly he knows how to get richer. The question is what can he do for the country?"
When it comes right down to it, if his record as Governor of Massachusetts is any indication of what can be expected, a good description would be Obama light.
If he were elected, he could easily slip back into old habits, forgetting much of what he has said on the campaign trail. Most politicians do this to some degree.
"Between the two, I do think Obama is foreword thinking. I actually think Romney is pretty liberal at heart. He's acted that way as governor, but not as a candidate."
I firmly believe that if Romney is elected, he will not turn out to be the staunch Republican/Conservative that the right-wingers are hoping he will be.
I also believe that a good deal of right-wing voters are remotely aware of that probability too. That's why there will be a bunch of folks holding their noses while they cast their votes this November.
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conservative wrote: "Will the loontoonist ignore Memorial Day tomorrow or will he depict the American soldier in an unfavorable light?"
If that's what you think, you haven't been paying attention. Mr. Bennett has never depicted an American Soldier in an unfavorable light. He's certainly been guilty of criticizing military brass, and rightfully so.
Why don't you go find your Bible and cherry pick a few verses to throw out there?
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JonRoss wrote: "Alprova, the God King's "rescue" of GM cost thousands of auto industry jobs. And it was carried out with taxpayer dollars."
Dealer closings were going to happen no matter how it played out. To say that the closings were carried out with taxpayer dollars, is just plain ignorant.
"GM would have been dismembered and the separate parts would have been worth far more than it is worth now. The number of jobs created by the spinoffs would have skyrocketed."
What spinoffs? Not one auto company in the world expressed so much as a minute's worth of interest in buying any or all of GM.
"The only job preservation intended were Union jobs and thats why thousands of non Union jobs were destroyed."
You do realize that the GM bailout began in 2008 while former President George W. Bush was in office, don't you? Do you think that he was aiding only union workers too?
You can type it a million times and you will never be able to back it up with an iota of proof. The UAW gave up immense ground to preserve their jobs.
"If you subtract 35 billion still owed by GM to the American people, the company has a net negative value."
So? The stock has steadily risen over the past year. Look it up. Were you expecting miracles to occur within the first year or two after it went public again?
I'm like the Gov't. I'm in it for the long haul. I have quite a few shares riding out there too, although I bought mine at a cheaper price than the Gov't did.
It likely will rise to a point, perhaps in a year or two in the future, where the Government's stock in GM can be sold at a profit.
"You still buying weed from Barry?"
The cocaine charges never stuck to Bush, and the American people have an attention span of a few days at best. People don't react to those kind of accusations the way they used to.
BTW, just for kicks, how much pot have you smoked during your lifetime? Chances are, you have toked a bit of it too. 100 million people or 40% of the population of this nation have smoked it at least once during their lifetime.
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dfclapp wrote: "Fortunately for the Democrats, Obama has no ethics when it comes to electioneering. (snipped)"
Back-stabbing and hypocrisy during political campaigning is typical politics these days.
Given the kind of attacks that Romney had to endure to emerge the front-runner in his own party, I truly find any political fallout by the Obama camp to be rather tame, so far anyway.
Romney has been responsible for several zingers of his own.
Comparing his record on spending to that of the President, he made that claim that "We were able to cut back on the size of government. Actually, we didn't just slow the rate of growth of our government, we actually cut it. We pulled back on the spending of our state."
Politifact rated that statement to be totally false.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/may/21/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-said-he-actually-cut-spending-massachu/
Mitt Romney is rather vulnerable when it comes to criticizing Obamacare as well.
He has personally attacked the President for being "the only president to ever cut $500 billion from Medicare." It's a totally false statement.
A reduction in spending called for in the plan does not translate into a "cut."
"Swift-boating Romney by lemon-picking the small percentage of firms that eventually failed (as opposed to the vast majority that succeeded) is simply par for his course."
Nit-picking and taking things totally out of context is politics too. No man on the planet has been more victimized by that strategy than Barack Obama.
Considering that Mitt Romney has repeatedly held up his experience at Bain Capital as proof that he is better-suited than the President to revive the struggling U.S. economy, he has set himself up for any and all criticism that has come forth.
"Obama hismself is at 50% (GM and Solyndra) with taxpayers left holding the bag in both."
I repeat emphatically, that no one can lay the Solyndra mess at the feet of the President and hold a straight face. He had nothing at all to do with what happened.
His involvement with salvaging GM only amounted to making a public statement that the Government's assistance would not favor any concerned party over another and that everyone involved would have to sacrifice.
Anyone else not directly affected by the potential collapse of the company disagreeing with what was done is irrelevant and totally pointless.
Given the situation at the time, the sheer number of jobs that were on the line, and the fact that other bankruptcy option alternatives were not on the table which would have preserved those jobs, it was a decision that has paid off handsomely.
Had the Government not assisted GM, it would have closed forever and been sold off to satisfy creditors. The unemployment compensation that would have had to have been paid out by the Government would have eclipsed several times over, that which will be eventually lost on the deal.
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BRP wrote: "Bennett sucks"
You're totally incapable of controlling yourself when it comes to your obsession with lobbing commentary at Mr. Bennett, aren't you?
I happen to think that you are a total loon, but you don't see me posting that about you every single time that you post something.
Your one man war that you are waging against Mr. Bennett will never result in a satisfactory strike, so why don't you take up another, more realistic hobby, like needlepoint?
Just when I think that you could not get any more pathetic, you post again.
Bennett Archive: Justice
TOES02800 wrote: "I never said Obama wasn't born American!! I do however, believe he's a Muslim!"
Of course. You probably also believe that the man regularly attended the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago for 20 years, just in case he might some day run for President of the United States, and would be in need of a cover to hide his Muslim faith.
48 and a half years ago, several people conspired to insert birth announcements in two Honolulu, Hawaii newspapers, announcing his Hawaiian birth, despite being born in Kenya, because they knew that he would one day run for President and would need to prove that he was born in the United States.
Does that just about cover your belief that the President isn't all that he claims to be?
"And as a Muslim, he hates the infidels (Americans)! He believes this is an unjust country from it's founding!! And he believes that America only became great off the backs of the rest of the world."
Uh huh...
"That's why the very first thing he did as president was to go off on his American apology tour of the world. He's as anti-American as one can get! And now he's running his campaign against capitalism."
Uh Huh...
"The liberal news only mentioned John Kerry's wealth three times in the same three month period before the election. So far, the same networks have mentioned Romney's wealth 27 times. Not biased now are we?"
Oh brother...you're way out there. Everything is a conspiracy, isn't it?
Bennett Archive: Justice
Rick1 wrote: "Al when you talk about big oil paying off our politicians are you talking Obama being paid off as well?"
No. I was referring to members of Congress, and mainly Republicans, who have worked relentlessly on behalf of oil interests.
"The New York Times reports: "those who donated the most to Mr. Obama and the Democratic Party since he started running for president were far more likely to visit the White House than others."
You know, this crap is dredged up regarding every President that has graced the Oval Office.
So what? If someone wants to waste their money to get an invite to the White House, more power to them.
"These people also produce other types of energy besides fossil fuel and oil companies employee hundrerd of thousands of people. I don't care what if they care one whit for me."
Well, you should, because one day, and no one knows when that will be for sure, the ground is going to run dry. Your once dependable, gas burning motor vehicle will become a glorified yard ornament and quick.
What will you do then?
"But since you have such strong feelings about big oil stop purchasing their product."
You'd be quite surprised at how little gasoline that I purchase in an average month. Unlike most Americans, I don't live in my motor vehicles. I use about a tank of gas per month.
"Do you thinbk Solyandra gave a crap about you when the too $500 million of tax payer money knowing they were not going to make it any ways."
I know I can't read people's minds, especially from 3,000 miles away. I don't think you can either. That being said, we both know that the loan was totally not deserved nor should it have ever been approved by those who did.
I'd like to think that those who were running the company had nothing but good intentions and that they wanted to make a go of the business.
There is little evidence that anyone made off with a bundle of money.
"But seriously Al since you have such strong feelings against big oil then you have a ethical and moral obligation to stop purchasing their products and that includes all oil base products."
Look, I don't have strong feelings against big oil companies, but I do have a realistic outlook when it comes to the fact that they have a vested interest in prolonging a dependency by as many people as possible on their products.
For certain, they do not want to go the way of the buggy whip. Who can blame them? But at some point, logic has to rule the day. Oil is not an infinite resource and the world is consuming it at an astronomical rate. It WILL eventually be depleted.
The time to begin to compensate for that eventuality is long past due. I'll probably be dead and gone when it does happen, but I have many family members who will be left on this Earth. I'm sure you do too.
My concern is for them and their future.