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bobgt said...

Poor obviousman, you got the last two mixed up.

It's the conservatives who get mad when confronted by the truth, and I suppose liberals, like any other normal human being, will probably become quite irate when being lied to.

But to be fair, both liberals and conservatives lie all the time. The difference is that some liberals will be quite repentant when caught whereas from what we've seen with the conservatives, most will become defensive and outright hostile when their deception falls apart.

Case-in-point:

Climategate: Liberal scientists demanding the resignation of those who falsified climate data.

Iraq War: Yeah, no wmds, we tortured a whole lotta them, so what!?!? It was for the greater good! Nevar forget!!!

November 12, 2010 at 3:40 p.m.
bobgt said...

"You stated this as fact, and now you're recasting it as your opinion about his "intent". It's simply dishonest."

Do tell us what is so dishonest about it? According to court records, O'Keefe admitted to and was apprehended by security attempting to gain access to the building telephone room, and was actively recording all interactions with employees inside the federal building with his cell phone without the second/third-party consent required to not run afoul of wiretapping laws. O'Keefe took the misdemeanor plea bargain to avoid these charges but it doesn't change the fact that his actions do count as wiretapping under several state and federal laws. If some street thug managed to get a plea deal for manslaughter in a gang hit in exchange for testimony on the criminal activities against his other gang members, I'd still call him a murderer.

Why don't you actually view the entire unedited ACORN video before you even attempt to make argument points. Pay close attention to the parts where O'Keefe was not actually dressed as a pimp during the conversation, what O'Keefe actually said to the ACORN worker (attempting to get women OUT OF prostitution through low-income housing, etc vs. using said low-income housing to facilitate prostitution in the edits), the reaction of the ACORN worker to O'Keefe (calling the cops to report possible prostitution ring.)

November 12, 2010 at 2:36 p.m.
bobgt said...

"Now I feel justified in calling you an out and out liar. "There was no evidence of wiretapping, or intent to wiretap, and O'keefe was not convicted of anything related to wiretapping.

You think hacking into Sarah Palin's email was A-OK though, don't you, liberal hypocrite."

Straight from the conservative playbook: attack your opponent with what he accuses you of doing. I never said hacking into Palin's email was "A-OK". Your mind simply filled in the blanks with what you wanted to see. Feel free to read my entire post to make sure. I was merely pointing out that O'Keefe also got a relatively light sentence for what he did, yet there was no outrage from conservatives such as yourself. The only hypocrite here is you, and you kinda walked into that one yourself.

And for the record, O'keefe had every intention to wiretap, from the false pretenses (claiming to need access to the telephone system) he used in his attempt to gain entrance into the senator's office, to using his cellphone to actively record the entire event (which does count as wiretapping in several states).

November 12, 2010 at 2:01 p.m.
bobgt said...

Are you equally offended that James O'Keefe, the so-called "activist" who brought down ACORN using videos re-edited to show fraudulent context, was given a mere 3 years probation, fines, and community service for attempting to wiretap a US senator's office?

Keep in mind that if he was an agent of a foreign country doing the exact same thing, he'd be in jail for decades...

November 12, 2010 at 1:28 p.m.
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