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btn128 said...

We can compare him to fellow 3B HOF Brooks Robinson.

Santo: 277 avg, 25 HR, 96 RBI, Robinson: 267 avg, 15 HR, 76 RBI

Santo Career: 277 avg. 342 HR, 1331 RBI, OBP .362, Runs 1138, SB 35. Robinson Career: 267 avg, 268 HR, 1357 RBI, OBP .322, Runs 1232, SB 28

Keep in mind, Santo played for 15 seasons and Robinson 23. There is no doubt Robinson is one of the best defensive 3B of all time, but Santo was no slouch at 3B. He had 5 consecutive gold goves himself.

I think they are comparable, they played in the same era. They put up similar numbers where Santo's offensive numbers are actually better in an average year and overall even though he retired sooner.

Ron Santo had a career .277 average.

Higher then

Eddie Matthews Brooks Robinson and Mike Schmidt

What he lacked in average compared to other 3B HOF, he more then made up for in power and production.

He has 342 HRs which puts him 3rd on the list of other HOF 3B only behind Schmidt and Mathews. He had 1331 RBIs which puts him 5th on the list on the 11. And he didnt play as many years as the others. And these are comparing him to 3B already in the HOF.

And it should also be taken into consideration that players like Mike Schmidt, Wade Boggs, and George Brett all who I would place above Santo did not play until after he played. So if you take them out, since he should have been judged before their numbers were complete..

Santo would rank

2nd in SLG 2nd in HRs 3rd in RBI 4th in Runs 4th in OBP

among HOF that played before him or during the same era. Also factor in Santo was playing in the "dead ball era" where stats across the board dropped for everybody and his numbers stand out even more. And none of this is taking into account he played with a disability.

So the only real arguement is that he has an average that is .277 which is higher then other 3B HOFs like Schmidt, Mathews, and Robinson who were all no doubt HOF players.

When you compare Santo against other third baseman throughout the history of the game, his numbers stack up. You can not seriously look at the other 3B in the HOF and not say Santo does not compare to them.

July 23, 2012 at 1:06 p.m.
btn128 said...

You are a complete tool and know nothing about baseball. There is a reason you do not have a HOF vote and never will.

Using Baseball-Reference's Wins Above Replacement (bWAR), Larkin compiled a career mark of 67.3 with a peak, the sum of the top five seasons, of 30.9; Santo's career total was 66.6 and his peak was 40.5. Thus, their career values are nearly identical while Santo's peak was clearly superior.

Similarly, in raw numbers, both rank seventh in career bWAR at their respective positions (using only those seasons in which the position in question was their primary one). But while Larkin ranked 15th in peak among shortstops, Santo ranks third in peak among third basemen, not far behind Mike Schmidt (42.3) and Wade Boggs (41.6) and effectively tied with George Brett (40.4), all first ballot Hall of Famers.

Santo also has a higher peak (40.5) and career avg (54.5) bWAR then your beloved Chipper Jones whose peak is 34.0 and avg 52.8. Yet I am sure you believe Chipper is head and shoulders above Santo. Chipper only has a slightly higher career overall bWAR then Santo beating him 71.5 to 68.4. Stats show Chipper was only 3.1 Wins better then Santo, who in your opinion does not even belong in the Hall Of Fame.

Lets not forget that Santo played in the dead ball era, not the steroid era where power numbers exploded. Lets not leave out any other relevant stats like from 1964 to 1968 he led the National League in walks four times and on-base percentage twice. Stats that did not become relevant until only recently.

He made nine All-Star teams, won five consecutive Gold Gloves and four times finished in the top 10 in the National League MVP voting.

And lets not forget that many of the third basemen in baseball history had not even established themselves when Santo first came on the ballot. When the 1980 ballots went out to the writers, Wade Boggs was still in the minors, George Brett was 26 and Mike Schmidt hadn't won any of his three MVP awards.

Using the bWAR figures (which, of course, didn't exist then), Santo was at worst the third-best and arguably the second-best third baseman in baseball history when he first hit the ballot.

Santo did all this with diabeties which they did not even know how to control when he was playing. If you read up or watch anything on Santo you would know the struggles he faced even being able to see straight and was still able to put up some of the greatest numbers for a 3B up until that point.

These stats came from the story below which goes into more detail. You are a complete tool for thinking Santo does not belong.

July 23, 2012 at 11:10 a.m.
btn128 said...

Wow, I dont know why I surprised. They passed the curfew Thursday afternoon and said they would not enfore it until Friday since they would not have time to get the necessary permits to be there. Then they wait till 3 am and arrest them. And then people wonder why the public has trust issues with politicians and police officers.

October 28, 2011 at 9:51 a.m.
btn128 said...

There is nothing more excruciating than watching a batter take time between every pitch, adjusting gloves, helmet, elbow pad, shin guard and crotch, then taking a few practice swings. Repeat. 2-5 times

You can say pretty much the same thing about football. They run 1 play that takes between 2 and 8 seconds, wait 20 seconds for the ref to set the ball, then another 25 seconds for the play clock to run down to 1, to run another 2 second play. That is almost 1 minute of time to run 1 play that may last all of 8 seconds.

Here is a football game. Team A Scores. Commercial. Team A kicks off. Commercial. Team B throws an interception on the first play, cut to commerical. I have seen 10 minutes of commercials for about 24 seconds of actual football being played.

And lets hope it isnt in the last 2 minutes of the game because then the most action you get in a close exciting game is it ending in the most undramatic way imaginable. Instead of playing it out, they line up, and take a knee for the last minute and a half all while basically standing around doing nothing as the game ends.

There is just as much standing around doing nothing in football as there is in baseball. But in baseball, there is no clock so it does not really matter.

October 26, 2011 at 5:22 p.m.
btn128 said...

As a die hard Cubs fan, I wanted to comment on the Bartman stuff.

Most Cubs fans do not blame Bartman for what he did. The ball was in the stands and he did not do anything wrong. In the moment, there is not 1 person who would not have done the same thing.

Who is to blame?

Moises Alou threw a temper tantrum making the situation turn ugly. If he goes back to his position, none of this ever happens.

Alex Gonzales who had one of the highest fielding percentages in the majors for SS, bobbles an easy double play ball that would have got the Cubs out of the inning with the lead.

And Dusty Baker is to blame for not once leaving the dugout until after the Marlins had taken the lead. Instead of coming out, slowing down the game, and calming the players down, he sat in the dugout eating toothpicks.

Bartman is not to blame, Moises Alou, Alex Gonzales, and Dusty Baker are to blame. And ESPN is to blame for keeping this alive as you can not watch a Cubs game on ESPN without countless replays of that foul ball.

With that said, that was one of the most painful days of my life. But I do not blame Bartman for any of it.

October 7, 2011 at 10:20 a.m.
btn128 said...

I agree with everything you have said except that it has to form unique sentences for it to be a language. If a specific sound represents a specific unique meaning that others understand and also use, then why would it not be considered language? Even if a very basic and limited one?

September 9, 2011 at 5:10 p.m.
btn128 said...

Some animals have dozens of sounds that represent different things. But this isn't language.

Maybe you can tell me what language is exactly if it is not sounds representing things.

September 9, 2011 at 4:43 p.m.
btn128 said...

limric said... Dude. I like Weiner.


June 14, 2011 at 5:08 p.m.
btn128 said...

Has it not occured to any of you that if they were really trying to make this some 9/11 memorial for terrorist they would have simply applied with the port authority and bought space for a mosque inside the Freedom Towers that are set to be built?

If their intent was for the terrorist to win, why would they not build inside the new towers?

If anything, people should be more upset that Ground Zero is still a hole in the ground after 9 years then they are about a building on private property 2 blocks away.

They are building 2 blocks away with tall buildings inbetween. The mosque/community center will not be looking over ground zero, and if you talk to any New Yorkers you would know that it is a side street with nothing on it. Most NYers or tourist have never even been down that street.

Im not saying I dont understand the people who are opposed to them building it there, but it is their right. And it could be a lot worse. What seperates America from Saudi Arabia is the freedom for Muslims to build here, even after what happened. This is what makes America the greatest country in the world. We may not always like when a mosque is built, but open your mind and realize that not every Muslim is a terrorist, and there are Muslims who are Americans and have the same rights as you do.

August 20, 2010 at 5:06 p.m.

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