Actually, greenerob, the NAACP meeting, even with all the emotions, hurt and simply wanting answers, was a lot more tame than some of those "I hate Obama" town hall meetings hiding behind healthcare concerns and those "tea parties". Plus no one was packing the heat(which evenmany experts have warned it's a tragedy waiting to happen) as has been reported at just about every meeting where Obama has shown up to speak, unless you count some of the officers in attendance.
Those people at this NAACP meeting, even with their hurt and raw emotions showing, were saints in comparison.
If Cooper didn't expect the meeting to involve the recent police shootings, then what did he expect the meeting to be about? Goes to show just how out of touch he is with not only the local community, but his own officers as well. He has no clue whatsoever in what goes on right under his nose, let alone what's taking place in the community.
Although I missed the segment on the Ballentine radio show, from what others have said Cooper went on the show and lied. Suggesting or out and right stating the young man shot 43 times was overheard by witnesses saying he wanted the police to shoot him? Chattanooga considers this leadership material? No wonder there are so many internal problems at the department. Internal problems that often transmit onto the streets and determines how the police acts, reacts and interacts with the people they serve.
Cops stick together? So do other criminals and animals of the wild who run in paks.
Stick together, even when their own are committing crimes? Do more to cover up for bad cops breakin the law than "defend their right to enforce control and authority?"
There's a stark difference in upholding the law, defending the right to enforce control and authority and using the badge to cover up for bad and criminal behavior when their own are breaking the law.
justinthyme, it appears the officers are the only ones who posed a danger to anyone. Especially the citizens you claim they were protecting. Shooting like wild, out of control heatens, hitting anything and everything, even allegedly hitting a neighbor's dog in another yard. Shooting up a fish tank inside a house. Can allegedly be heard laughing towards the end of that one video/audio tape. Yeah! I'll bet you'd feel the same way if it was someone you knew, some family member of sorts. Yeah! Right! We all hear that one until the shoe is actually on YOUR foot!
Yes, tre60 "IF", that very small insignificant word that seemingly has so much power and so many variations. Seems like the only ones who say the man actually pointed the gun at officers are the cops? hmmmmmm Cops lie, we all know.
Are they, the cops, actually heard laughing towards the end of the video/audio as someone mentioned? And what about those other cameras ahead of Bacha's car? Where are they? Why is the only video released is that of Bacha's, when it clear there were other cars at the scene ahead of her car? What's the dept. covering up this time? The family and conscious minded citizens will have to demand a federal investigation.
franksmith, circus animals are "trained" too to do good jobs. CPD seems to be attracking a whole lot of circus animals these days.
Justin Thyme, how about abuse of a corpse then? Will that do?
You're logic is both sickening, inhumane and disturbing.
Would you feel the same way if it was someone you knew? A relative perhaps shot multiple times? Would you still be so lighthearted and nonchalant about it?
I agree, 04ford. The claim and excuse was they don't normally allow family to talk to the suspect. However, there have been times they've done just that, allowed family members to talk to the suspect.
Justpeachy80, unfortunately, there haven't been any leadership or chiefs or general in charge of the CPD for a very long time. All they seem to want are props who follow orders without quesion and allow the dept. to run amok.
I dsagree. Just because all six responded with deadly force doesn't necessarily dictate they arrived at the same conclusion that deadly force was necessary. It could also indicate that they'd gotten together prior to determine if in such a situation how best to react in order to make it appear justified. There are also certain key words often used in LE to give signals so as to determine response and outcome.
Take the young woman in Riverside California years ago who had fallen asleep in her broken down car while awaiting for family member to arrive and pick her up. One cop hollered out, SHE'S GOT A GUN! All cops on the scene responded with heavy gunfire, killing the young female who had fallen asleep inside her car. She never regained conscious.
There are always trigger points geared towards guaranteeing a particular response and outcome. It appears that too may have been the case here. How they all responded doesn't make it justified. It's just that old group, posse, mob response that often takes place with civilians too who're geared up on the same wave length.
Yes, bubbles01. Unfortunately, there are individuals who actually join the force just for the opportunity to bag their first or several kills. They're cut from that same dysfuncitonal fabric known as society that produces some of the most deviant and hardened criminals. Even studies have shown that many who gravitate towards police work have the same psychological and anti-social makeup as some of your average to most hardened criminals on the street. Add power, lack of accountability and poor leadership to that reality and you have the perfect storm and recipe for a disasterous collapse and breakdown in society.
NAACP Community Meeting
Actually, greenerob, the NAACP meeting, even with all the emotions, hurt and simply wanting answers, was a lot more tame than some of those "I hate Obama" town hall meetings hiding behind healthcare concerns and those "tea parties". Plus no one was packing the heat(which evenmany experts have warned it's a tragedy waiting to happen) as has been reported at just about every meeting where Obama has shown up to speak, unless you count some of the officers in attendance.
Those people at this NAACP meeting, even with their hurt and raw emotions showing, were saints in comparison.
NAACP meeting could have been better, chief says
If Cooper didn't expect the meeting to involve the recent police shootings, then what did he expect the meeting to be about? Goes to show just how out of touch he is with not only the local community, but his own officers as well. He has no clue whatsoever in what goes on right under his nose, let alone what's taking place in the community.
Although I missed the segment on the Ballentine radio show, from what others have said Cooper went on the show and lied. Suggesting or out and right stating the young man shot 43 times was overheard by witnesses saying he wanted the police to shoot him? Chattanooga considers this leadership material? No wonder there are so many internal problems at the department. Internal problems that often transmit onto the streets and determines how the police acts, reacts and interacts with the people they serve.
Shooting reopens old wounds
Cops stick together? So do other criminals and animals of the wild who run in paks.
Stick together, even when their own are committing crimes? Do more to cover up for bad cops breakin the law than "defend their right to enforce control and authority?"
There's a stark difference in upholding the law, defending the right to enforce control and authority and using the badge to cover up for bad and criminal behavior when their own are breaking the law.
'Excessive force' use questioned in fatal shooting
justinthyme, it appears the officers are the only ones who posed a danger to anyone. Especially the citizens you claim they were protecting. Shooting like wild, out of control heatens, hitting anything and everything, even allegedly hitting a neighbor's dog in another yard. Shooting up a fish tank inside a house. Can allegedly be heard laughing towards the end of that one video/audio tape. Yeah! I'll bet you'd feel the same way if it was someone you knew, some family member of sorts. Yeah! Right! We all hear that one until the shoe is actually on YOUR foot!
'Excessive force' use questioned in fatal shooting
Yes, tre60 "IF", that very small insignificant word that seemingly has so much power and so many variations. Seems like the only ones who say the man actually pointed the gun at officers are the cops? hmmmmmm Cops lie, we all know. Are they, the cops, actually heard laughing towards the end of the video/audio as someone mentioned? And what about those other cameras ahead of Bacha's car? Where are they? Why is the only video released is that of Bacha's, when it clear there were other cars at the scene ahead of her car? What's the dept. covering up this time? The family and conscious minded citizens will have to demand a federal investigation.
franksmith, circus animals are "trained" too to do good jobs. CPD seems to be attracking a whole lot of circus animals these days.
Chattanooga: Police seeking armed robbers of Highway 58 Kangaroo store
Well, kamiletn, you could fire 59 bullets at them. At least 43 should hit the target. MAYBE.
'Excessive force' use questioned in fatal shooting
Justin Thyme, how about abuse of a corpse then? Will that do?
You're logic is both sickening, inhumane and disturbing.
Would you feel the same way if it was someone you knew? A relative perhaps shot multiple times? Would you still be so lighthearted and nonchalant about it?
'Excessive force' use questioned in fatal shooting
I agree, 04ford. The claim and excuse was they don't normally allow family to talk to the suspect. However, there have been times they've done just that, allowed family members to talk to the suspect.
Justpeachy80, unfortunately, there haven't been any leadership or chiefs or general in charge of the CPD for a very long time. All they seem to want are props who follow orders without quesion and allow the dept. to run amok.
'Excessive force' use questioned in fatal shooting
I dsagree. Just because all six responded with deadly force doesn't necessarily dictate they arrived at the same conclusion that deadly force was necessary. It could also indicate that they'd gotten together prior to determine if in such a situation how best to react in order to make it appear justified. There are also certain key words often used in LE to give signals so as to determine response and outcome.
Take the young woman in Riverside California years ago who had fallen asleep in her broken down car while awaiting for family member to arrive and pick her up. One cop hollered out, SHE'S GOT A GUN! All cops on the scene responded with heavy gunfire, killing the young female who had fallen asleep inside her car. She never regained conscious.
There are always trigger points geared towards guaranteeing a particular response and outcome. It appears that too may have been the case here. How they all responded doesn't make it justified. It's just that old group, posse, mob response that often takes place with civilians too who're geared up on the same wave length.
'Excessive force' use questioned in fatal shooting
Yes, bubbles01. Unfortunately, there are individuals who actually join the force just for the opportunity to bag their first or several kills. They're cut from that same dysfuncitonal fabric known as society that produces some of the most deviant and hardened criminals. Even studies have shown that many who gravitate towards police work have the same psychological and anti-social makeup as some of your average to most hardened criminals on the street. Add power, lack of accountability and poor leadership to that reality and you have the perfect storm and recipe for a disasterous collapse and breakdown in society.