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jorsak said...

1. Comments regarding the violation of church and state:

A "Spirit sign" is a student initiated prayer or petition and thus is not protected under any such supposed "separation of church or state."

2. Any such persons making above said argument on a "Constitutional" basis while simultaneously arrogantly telling others they need to be familiar with the constitution please see: Hypocrit and/or conjectural argumentation.

3. "… Maybe I'm just old fashioned. What happened to "Go Team!" Cannot a high school football game be about high school football and school spirit ("two bits, four bits, .....")."

What has largely been missed by those in opposition to this banner is that it is STUDENT LEAD and OBVIOUSLY by a largely CHRISTIAN student body (Else they wouldn't have agreed to all participate in its making)and THUS, "Pressing on towards the goal" is the "Spirit" in which they play the game.

4. If those who wish to tout their expertise on the constitution and "Separation of church and state" wish to continue to do so, please research the faith's, the writings of, etc. those who FOUNDED the nation. With rare exception (Jefferson, Franklin, and Paine) the founders were quite clear about this nation being founded on the principles of the Judeo-Christian religion. They quite clearly believed that the very liberties which our government was formed to PROTECT were BASED ON the notion that we were CREATED equal. And thus, to assert that those same founding fathers somehow did not want GOD in GOVERNMENT is completely devoid of any logic or reason what-so-ever.

To NOT have God in government is to NOT have any means by which liberty and equality is establish. THAT was their belief and if you say otherwise you are a historical revisionist, period. The whole concept of "Separation of Church and state" was to avoid the idea of the USA forming a "Church of USA" that you HAD TO BELONG TO or else...

In short our founding fathers were saying, "We are a Christian nation. You are free to worship who you wish but our country is founded on Judeo-Christian beliefs and your liberties in our country all stem from that system of belief.

That is why the declaration of independence from their OLD form of government states exactly, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,..."

That is why President George Washington stated, “"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, Religion and Morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of Patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great Pillars.”

I could provide hundreds more quotes from the many biographies that lace my shelf of these past great men. Become a student of history or at least lose the arrogant condescension with which you push your “Constitutional” line of argumentation. Some of us know the constitution AND HISTORY.

October 2, 2009 at 8:49 a.m.
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