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librul said...

There goes Bleeder again - ranting in semi-conscious ignorance about our borders being "overrun" ..... by children. Many of them come from Guatemala which has a similar backstory to that of Honduras. Chris Floyd wrote about it recently when the world was remembering D-Day:

"But this week saw the anniversary of another major turning point in modern history, a campaign that became — and remains — the enduring template of foreign policy for the world’s most powerful nation. We speak, of course, of the 60th anniversary of Washington’s “regime change” operation in Guatemala, overthrowing a democratically elected government.

It was not the first such American "intervention," of course (and was preceded in the previous year by a more indirect role in overthrowing democracy in Iran), but it set in train more than six decades of violent attacks on democracy by the "leader of the free world." (A fine tradition carried on by Barack Obama in Honduras.)

In fact, a hatred of democracy — a genuine, visceral revulsion at the idea of people choosing their own leaders and their own form of society — has been a driving force in American foreign policy for generations. Democracy and freedom are only allowed if they lead to outcomes that advance whatever the agenda of the American elite happens to be at any given time. They hate democracy abroad; they hate it at home; they hate it everywhere, all the time. The historical record is remarkably consistent on this point."

The Guatemala regime change was noted at the London Review of Books in an article by John Perry:

"Over ten days in June 1954, a decade after the D-Day landings, the CIA sent twelve planes to drop bombs and propaganda on towns in Guatemala in support of a coup against the elected government of Jácobo Arbenz ..."

"Guatemala was one of the first countries in the region to emerge from military dictatorship. Arbenz was the second democratic president, elected in 1951 with 65 per cent of the vote. A strongly nationalist military officer, he was convinced that the central problem in a mainly agricultural country was land: 70 per cent of it in the hands of only 2 per cent of the population, of which only a quarter was being cultivated. In 1953 he decreed the takeover of more than 200,000 acres of unused land belonging to the United Fruit Company. The company responded with a propaganda campaign to convince Eisenhower not to be ‘soft on communism’."

Yep - Arbenz's efforts to raise his people out of poverty and promoting the concept that his country's land belonged to his country's people brought the full weight of American imperialism and corporate-backed CIA subversion down on them, too.

July 16, 2014 at 8:44 a.m.
librul said...

But that's the point, Al. If we let these obtuse propagandists like Limbaugh, Marsha Blackburn, Sarah Pain-in-the-butt, and the phalanx of lying creeps at Faux News define the debate, the truth and the historical backstories will all disappear leading to a population of ignorant, racist, religionist footsoldiers for American fascism. It's already widening the cracks in our rule of law leading to "sovereign citizen" crackpots and people like Cliven Bundy who steal millions in public resources and proclaim that because THEY choose to not recognize the government's legitimacy, it can't arrest them for violation of the laws that our democracy has agreed upon. They are domestic terrorists pure and simple and should be dealt with as such.

July 16, 2014 at 8:33 a.m.
librul said...


"The unaccompanied children crossing the border into the United States are leaving behind mainly three Central American countries, Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala. The first two are among the world's most violent and all three have deep poverty, according to a Pew Research report based on Department of Homeland Security (DHS) information," reports NBC News. "El Salvador ranked second in terms of homicides in Latin America in 2011, and it is still high on the list. Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador are among the poorest nations in Latin America. Thirty percent of Hondurans, 17 percent of Salvadorans and 26 percent of Guatemalans live on less than $2 a day."

The fact that Honduras is the biggest source of the exodus jumped out at me. That's because, in 2009, the United States government — under President Obama — tacitly supported a military coup that overthrew the democratically elected president of Honduras.

"Washington has a very close relationship with the Honduran military, which goes back decades," The Guardian noted at the time. "During the 1980s, the US used bases in Honduras to train and arm the Contras, Nicaraguan paramilitaries who became known for their atrocities in their war against the Sandinista government in neighbouring Nicaragua."

Honduras wasn't paradise under President Manuel Zelaya. Since the coup, however, the country has entered a downward death spiral of drug-related bloodshed and political revenge killings that crashed the economy, brought an end to law, order and civil society, and now has some analysts calling it a "failed state" along the lines of Somalia and Afghanistan during the 1990s.

"Zelaya's overthrow created a vacuum in security in which military and police were now focused more on political protest, and also led to a freeze in international aid that markedly worsened socio-economic conditions," Mark Ungar, professor of political science at Brooklyn College and the City University of New York, told The International Business Times. "The 2009 coup, asserts [Tulane] professor Aaron Schneider, gave the Honduran military more political and economic leverage, at the same time as the state and political elites lost their legitimacy, resources and the capacity to govern large parts of the country."

by Ted Rall, published at 7/12/14

July 16, 2014 at 7:03 a.m.
librul said...

As Ted Rall explained in his recent op-ed, this crisis is noting but blowback from decades of CIA meddling on behalf of American corporate rape of Central American countries...


"If you're reading this, you probably follow the news. So you've probably heard of the latest iteration of the "crisis at the border": tens of thousands of children, many of them unaccompanied by an adult, crossing the desert from Mexico into the United States, where they surrender to the Border Patrol in hope of being allowed to remain here permanently. Immigration and Customs Enforcement's detention and hearing system has been overwhelmed by the surge of children and, in some cases, their parents. The Obama Administration has asked Congress to approve new funding to speed up processing and deportations of these illegal immigrants.

Even if you've followed this story closely, you probably haven't heard the depressing backstory — the reason so many Central Americans are sending their children on a dangerous thousand-mile journey up the spine of Mexico, where they ride atop freight trains, endure shakedowns by corrupt police and face rapists, bandits and other predators. (For a sense of what it's like, check out the excellent 2004 film "Maria Full of Grace.")

NPR and other mainstream news outlets are parroting the White House, which blames unscrupulous "coyotes" (human smugglers) for "lying to parents, telling them that if they put their kids in the hands of traffickers and get to the United States that they will be able to stay." True: the coyotes are saying that in order to gin up business. Also true: U.S. law has changed, and many of these kids have a strong legal case for asylum. Unfortunately, U.S. officials are ignoring the law.

The sad truth is that this "crisis at the border" is yet another example of "blowback."

Blowback is an unintended negative consequence of U.S. political, military and/or economic intervention overseas — when something we did in the past comes back to bite us in the ass. 9/11 is the classic example; arming and funding radical Islamists in the Middle East and South Asia who were less grateful for our help than angry at the U.S.' simultaneous backing for oppressive governments (The House of Saud, Saddam, Assad, etc.) in the region.

More recent cases include U.S. support for Islamist insurgents in Libya and Syria, which destabilized both countries and led to the murders of U.S. consular officials in Benghazi, and the rise of ISIS, the guerilla army that imperils the U.S.-backed Maliki regime in Baghdad, respectively.

Confusing the issue for casual American news consumers is that the current border crisis doesn't involve the usual Mexicans traveling north in search of work. Instead, we're talking about people from Central American nations devastated by a century of American colonialism and imperialism, much of that intervention surprisingly recent. Central American refugees are merely transiting through Mexico."

July 16, 2014 at 7:02 a.m.
librul said...

Dang you ARE a worthless, ignorant xenophobe, aren't you bleeder.

July 16, 2014 at 6:32 a.m.
librul said...


July 11, 2014 at 8:11 a.m.
librul said...

That's right .. go get 'em, Helen! These leeches have always sought the public's tax money for their private profiteering, but it's long past time to derail their gravy train.

July 11, 2014 at 7:52 a.m.
librul said...

GO UAW, GO!!!!

Corker and the capitalist bobbleheads in this forum don't represent the entirety of public opinion - and obviously don't represent the opinion of the folks at VW.

To its credit, Volkswagen does not consider workers as mere chattel but as a vital organ of their business and, while the VW workers do not own any part of the business as they should, they are at least being recognized as needing a seat at the table where their voice can be heard. Such a concept is anathema to a "right-to-work" state and to craven capitalists everywhere.

July 11, 2014 at 7:29 a.m.
librul said...

TIME FOR A PARTY PURGE! (inspired from the far-flung interwebs).

Piiiiiiitchforks! Lovely Pitchforks! Piiiiiiitchforks! Get em while they are on special!

Yes, here at the Democracy Mall's Seditionist Superstore we are having a "This town needs an enema!" Blowout Sale. Everything you need to set our Great Experiment back on track.

We are doing a once in a lifetime deal on our Angry Mob(tm) line of supplies.

Buy ten pitchforks, and we throw in a sack of burning torches.

Buy a barrel of our own blend of Tar, and we throw in the sacks of feathers for free. And for running them out of town after, we do a line of Rails in various lengths so you and your buddies can parade them round the market square then dump them in the garbage heap.

And in our "Super SCOTUS Special" you buy the guillotine, and we will throw in one new tumbril, a hand woven wicker head basket, and as much knitting yarn as a row of cackling crones can carry.

Persecuted Christians pissing you off with their whiny bitch arse nonsense? Get on down to the lumber isle, where you will find great deals on ready to assemble crosses, each with its own bag of nine inch crucifixion nails and a mallet. Nail those Jesus Jokers up and teach them what persecution really is! And if that seems a little too harsh we have a range of stocks, complete with rotten fruit to throw at them, and our ever popular Happy Dipper(tm) Dunking Stools.

So when your society, administration or courts are full of BirchBagger sociopaths intent on turning your country into a fascist theocracy, come on down to the Democracy Mall, and remember....

Its never too late to GET YOUR MOB ON!

July 4, 2014 at 12:13 p.m.
librul said...

Burn 'em. Burn 'em all.

July 1, 2014 at 12:04 a.m.

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