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mltoran said...

I can not believe the types of comments this paper draws. You criticize grammar while a man is dead. Unbelievable.

September 30, 2009 at 1:33 p.m.
mltoran said...

This entire thread of comments concerns me. I have school age children. I personally would choose not to have religion invoked on my child by a public school in whatever form of religion. Would likely be upset if a public school passed on dogma or theology in anything other than a strictly historical sense. On the other hand, being a devout and practicing Catholic, I have chosen to enroll my child in a private parochial school so that she can be taught in the relgious principals that I have chosen. If you wish to have your child partake in school sponsored or led religion, send your child to a private school and pay the price. I would tend to agree with the thought that if it was a nonchristian phrase used on that sign every week there would be very few people protesting the ban.

September 29, 2009 at 7:21 p.m.
mltoran said...

When I was young, my mom explained to me that there were all types of people..White, Black, Brown and everything in between. I am white....my husband is black...my daughter is brown. My daughter, being brown (or carmel macchiatto in her words...leave it to a 9 year old) often gets confused for hispanic etc....my point in this being...Race is changing and taking on a new status in our society. What was black and white (not an intentional pun) in pre-civil rights society, is not so clearly defined today. I would hope that as an evolving culture we can find better alternatives than profiling. It really benefits nobody.

July 29, 2009 at 10:05 p.m.
mltoran said...

Sailorman, I am not being deliberately obtuse or snarky. I am legitimately questioning the point YOU are trying to make with the statistics before I make a judgment or response.

Clara, I'm glad that you were there for that occurrence, it shows a depth of character that hopefully will be shared by more. In today's society we have a tendency to keep to ourselves and not get involved.

July 29, 2009 at 9:34 p.m.
mltoran said...

Sailorman, They show nothing and offer nothing to the stream of the conversation. Breakdown of population....and your point is?

July 29, 2009 at 8:56 p.m.
mltoran said...

Sailorman...

What exactly are those statistics meant to show?

July 29, 2009 at 7:55 p.m.
mltoran said...

Scotty,

I appreciate your comments, and personally, I think it's wrong even for middle eastern males to get additional scrutiny above and beyond what anyone else would. EVEN on my plane. I would hope that security would be doing their job and assessing EVERYONE, and not just middle eastern males (or what they assume are middle eastern males as they often include Indian/Pakistani/Israeli/Mediterranean)

July 29, 2009 at 4:57 p.m.
mltoran said...

scotty.... I'm hardly paranoid...lol.

1) What would constitute unusual about my husbands car that would warrant pulling him over? Or my family's vehicles for that matter.

((For the record my husband drives a black ford ranger pickup, my cousin a bmw sedan, and my sister a ford edge...those are thuggish drug dealing type vehicles for sure.))

We lived in a very quiet predominately white neighborhood, so i guess that they would be "outsiders" being there were few black folk in the area. Even if the officers primary motive is to serve and protect, but in doing so consistently profile ((which is exactly what you've described in your previous post)) it's still wrong.

It's not just the police though. My husband and I went to Toys R Us recently to buy our daughter a birthday present. We had someone on our heel the entire time we were in the store. We are a professional couple, do not dress "thuggish", yet we were the only people followed that way. It is not acceptable in this day and age to target and profile or stereotype based on complexion.

July 29, 2009 at 4:07 p.m.
mltoran said...

Scotty, Unless my husband looks like a thug because he is black...there is no rhyme nor reason to support what you're saying...and this goes for many others as well. My cousin(a Georgetown Law grad) was pulled over when visiting becuase evidently a black woman in a bmw was "suspicious". My sister (PhD candidate finishing her thesis) and her husband (engineer) pulled over when they came to visit as well (oos plates evidently constitute suspicion in this area). None of these people fall into your explanation of looking thuggish, etc...but yet each and everyone has been pulled over when they have come up to visit...call it paranoid, but I see a pattern.

July 29, 2009 at 2:59 p.m.
mltoran said...

Scotty, Unfortunately it happens much more than you think. My husband (5'10" stocky and an exdeputy) repeatedly got pulled over or stopped and questioned as "matching the description of" suspects who ranged from 5'3 and slender to 6'4" and athletic. He actually had to show his badge at one point, and the officer STILL contacted his department supervisor to question his legitimacy....and you think it doesnt happen?

July 29, 2009 at 2 p.m.
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