Libertarian, you, sir, are a moron.

"You think Rome would have been a great empire just with aqueducts and public baths?"

You basically just proved a point that wars are ugly. Rome was a great empire because they annihilated or assimilated populations and claimed their lands for Rome. That is not civilization, that is brutal violence and unadulterated greed. If you want to talk about civilization, take a look back to the neolithic period of human history. Violence did not exist in most regions of the world and yet they prospered beyond what modern minds could imagine. Oh, and I just thought I would let you know that Socrates did not believe in "might makes right". You may want to consider educating yourself before using him in your pro-war argument.

Well in that case, Wildman, it must be totally okay to do what he did! Whew!