where was the State's attorney during this meeting, who is/was appointed to 'help' the commission? Where's the audio recording of the meeting?
Also ask the owners/editors of "Tennessee Native Times": (supporters of the CONFed & 'new' "Indian" commission) to see their videotape (for the commission) of THIS meeting. They are Ramona & Glen Reece
http://www.tntimes.net/Pages/About%20Us.htm
info1@tntimes.net
the folks on the commission and in the "heritage" groups are NOT American Indians. They MIGHT have some distant ancestry - but Indians it does not make them. The groups seeking 'recognition' are NOT "remnant tribes"!!!!!!!!! There is NO historical documentation of ANY government-to-government relationship - forget looking for state-to-tribal government - to even suggest usage of the word "tribe" to describe these heritage groups.
In an article from last year: "Ramsey also recently said a separate bill to extend TCIA as a state entity for another year will not move forward in the state Senate."
It's NOW time to keep at least ONE promise made to Tennessee taxpayers who will otherwise be footing the bill for these heritage groups who want to be called 'tribes' - even though the alleged relatives (the people in and of the legitimately federally recognized Nations the heritage groups claim to descend from) do NOT know OR acknowledge the groups in Tennessee.
These groups will become 'wards of the State' at a time when Tennessee is already having to cut deep into its budget. How will WE, the TAXPAYER, be able to afford the upkeep for such a LARGE group of people (who actually seem to be looking at this 'recognition' thing as a "get rich quick-scheme") when, for so many of us, it's all we can do to afford and pay for our OWN bills?!!
"Just do it" - and say NO to an extention for the current Commission of (NON)Indian Affairs!!
This issue of reasserting a state's right to “state sovereignty"; does it mean the States will stop accepting federal dollars? If so, is the state ready to assume responsibility for its own funding withOUT the federal dollars? I somehow highly doubt it.
Tennessee's citizens are already hurting from the lack of state dollars for funding its own state health-care system. MANY out here are hurting for lack of medical care; some will die without having ANY care because they don't qualify for one illogical reason or another that somehow allow others to receive state medical care.
When Tennessee's legislators start creating state "tribes" without really knowing or understanding how and why the federally enrolled American Indians hold their relationship to the US federal government, by Tennessee's asserting its 'right' to “state sovereignty", TENNESSEE'S TAXPAYING CITIZENS will be soley responsible for the care AND funding of these "tribes" - for their health care, education, housing, economic development, etc.
As a taxpayer in Tennessee, I don't want to pay for a small group who feel they're above everyone else and require special legislation to designate themselves as a special-interest group needing more dollars than the state has to give when there are SO MANY others who are just as in need but who don't require special legislation giving them 'rights' above and beyond anyone and everyone else.
THAT is NOT right and if I'm not mistaken, against Tennessee's own Constitutional powers and abilities. Tennessee's legislators better stop and seriously consider the FULL impact of choosing to 'make a stand' against the US government (and it's so obvious it has a lot to do with the fact that Obama is now the President).
LEGISLATORS, YOU represnt US, the citizens. You do NOT represent a political party or special interest group like those wanting you to grant them 'recognition'.
It occurs to me that these "Tennessee Indians" must be born of a virgin birth. According to those seeking legislative 'recognition', IF you are NOT first-generation, born INSIDE Tennessee's borders, then you are NOT a "Tennessee Indian".
If your ancestors are Muscogee (Creek), Cherokee, Euchi (Yuchi), Chickasaw, Choctaw, or of any other Nation(s) that might have a vested interest in the lands that now comprise "Tennessee" but YOU, yourself, were NOT born INSIDE Tennessee's borders, then you are not and cannot be called a "Tennessee Indian".
Curiously enough though, NO "Tennessee Indian" was able to be born alone and without some help - namely a female and a male human parent; at least one of whom HAD to be a federally enrolled American Indian.
IF - as those who are seeking 'recognition' so long and loudly proclaim - the ANCESTORS of those calling themselves 'Tennessee Indians' (those Nations and People now known as the Muscogee (Creek), Cherokee, Euchi (Yuchi), Chickasaw, Choctaw, and any other Nations that have a vested interest in the lands that now comprise "Tennessee") do NOT have a say inside the Tennessee borders, well then how can those apparently born of a "virgin birth" proclaim themselves to be "Indian" without a legitimately recognized American Indian ancestor?!!
Please also see:
Cherokee Nation: What is a real Indian Nation? What is a fake tribe?
Fraudulent groups passing themselves off as tribes have become big business during the past two decades, with more than 200 that claim to be some sort of Cherokee tribe. However, there are only three federally-recognized Cherokee tribes: the Cherokee Nation, the United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians and the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians. Many of the would-be Cherokee "tribes" are cultural societies or history clubs, whose members may or may not belong to nay of the federally-recognized tribes. Still others are harmful, and some are even created for criminal purposes.
Lobbyist: Indian Affairs meeting became 'mob scene'
where was the State's attorney during this meeting, who is/was appointed to 'help' the commission? Where's the audio recording of the meeting?
Also ask the owners/editors of "Tennessee Native Times": (supporters of the CONFed & 'new' "Indian" commission) to see their videotape (for the commission) of THIS meeting. They are Ramona & Glen Reece http://www.tntimes.net/Pages/About%20Us.htm info1@tntimes.net
http://www.tntimes.net/Pages/TCIA.htm On the right side: Multimedia Official State Meetings Audio/Video Recordings
the folks on the commission and in the "heritage" groups are NOT American Indians. They MIGHT have some distant ancestry - but Indians it does not make them. The groups seeking 'recognition' are NOT "remnant tribes"!!!!!!!!! There is NO historical documentation of ANY government-to-government relationship - forget looking for state-to-tribal government - to even suggest usage of the word "tribe" to describe these heritage groups.
stuff white people do http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2009/06/claim-they-have-native-american-blood.html
Citizenship defined http://tahlequahdailypress.com/letters/x519344185/Citizenship-defined?keyword=secondarystory
In an article from last year: "Ramsey also recently said a separate bill to extend TCIA as a state entity for another year will not move forward in the state Senate."
It's NOW time to keep at least ONE promise made to Tennessee taxpayers who will otherwise be footing the bill for these heritage groups who want to be called 'tribes' - even though the alleged relatives (the people in and of the legitimately federally recognized Nations the heritage groups claim to descend from) do NOT know OR acknowledge the groups in Tennessee.
These groups will become 'wards of the State' at a time when Tennessee is already having to cut deep into its budget. How will WE, the TAXPAYER, be able to afford the upkeep for such a LARGE group of people (who actually seem to be looking at this 'recognition' thing as a "get rich quick-scheme") when, for so many of us, it's all we can do to afford and pay for our OWN bills?!!
"Just do it" - and say NO to an extention for the current Commission of (NON)Indian Affairs!!
States’ rights push for ‘sovereignty’ hits state Capitol
This issue of reasserting a state's right to “state sovereignty"; does it mean the States will stop accepting federal dollars? If so, is the state ready to assume responsibility for its own funding withOUT the federal dollars? I somehow highly doubt it.
Tennessee's citizens are already hurting from the lack of state dollars for funding its own state health-care system. MANY out here are hurting for lack of medical care; some will die without having ANY care because they don't qualify for one illogical reason or another that somehow allow others to receive state medical care.
When Tennessee's legislators start creating state "tribes" without really knowing or understanding how and why the federally enrolled American Indians hold their relationship to the US federal government, by Tennessee's asserting its 'right' to “state sovereignty", TENNESSEE'S TAXPAYING CITIZENS will be soley responsible for the care AND funding of these "tribes" - for their health care, education, housing, economic development, etc.
As a taxpayer in Tennessee, I don't want to pay for a small group who feel they're above everyone else and require special legislation to designate themselves as a special-interest group needing more dollars than the state has to give when there are SO MANY others who are just as in need but who don't require special legislation giving them 'rights' above and beyond anyone and everyone else.
THAT is NOT right and if I'm not mistaken, against Tennessee's own Constitutional powers and abilities. Tennessee's legislators better stop and seriously consider the FULL impact of choosing to 'make a stand' against the US government (and it's so obvious it has a lot to do with the fact that Obama is now the President).
LEGISLATORS, YOU represnt US, the citizens. You do NOT represent a political party or special interest group like those wanting you to grant them 'recognition'.
Recognition issues may kill Indian Affairs panel
It occurs to me that these "Tennessee Indians" must be born of a virgin birth. According to those seeking legislative 'recognition', IF you are NOT first-generation, born INSIDE Tennessee's borders, then you are NOT a "Tennessee Indian".
If your ancestors are Muscogee (Creek), Cherokee, Euchi (Yuchi), Chickasaw, Choctaw, or of any other Nation(s) that might have a vested interest in the lands that now comprise "Tennessee" but YOU, yourself, were NOT born INSIDE Tennessee's borders, then you are not and cannot be called a "Tennessee Indian".
Curiously enough though, NO "Tennessee Indian" was able to be born alone and without some help - namely a female and a male human parent; at least one of whom HAD to be a federally enrolled American Indian.
IF - as those who are seeking 'recognition' so long and loudly proclaim - the ANCESTORS of those calling themselves 'Tennessee Indians' (those Nations and People now known as the Muscogee (Creek), Cherokee, Euchi (Yuchi), Chickasaw, Choctaw, and any other Nations that have a vested interest in the lands that now comprise "Tennessee") do NOT have a say inside the Tennessee borders, well then how can those apparently born of a "virgin birth" proclaim themselves to be "Indian" without a legitimately recognized American Indian ancestor?!!
Please also see:
Cherokee Nation: What is a real Indian Nation? What is a fake tribe?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp7Z4eiEuaw
Fraudulent groups passing themselves off as tribes have become big business during the past two decades, with more than 200 that claim to be some sort of Cherokee tribe. However, there are only three federally-recognized Cherokee tribes: the Cherokee Nation, the United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians and the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians. Many of the would-be Cherokee "tribes" are cultural societies or history clubs, whose members may or may not belong to nay of the federally-recognized tribes. Still others are harmful, and some are even created for criminal purposes.
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