Yes it appeared that cj85 and Easy ignored the rules of engagement for the thread. Their language was horrible. I flagged both of them multiple times but it appears to have no effect.
That may well be what happens, but I am not convinced that insurers are going to be that stupid.
Why?
Because they know doggone well that if they raise their rates to such a degree, they are going to be put out of business.
Al, again that is my precise point. They will have to go out of business. As someone said above you are a numbers guy. Insurances are in it for profit, (even "not for profits"), and they will have to raise their rates to compensate for insuring preexisting conditions along with the ones that are typically uninsurable. Not to mention the millions of fees Obama is collecting from them to help pay for Obamacare.
We will have a one payor system sooner than later unless something is done to curb Obama's agenda.
Disclaimer* THIS IS MY OPINION. PLEASE NO ONE CALL ME A LIAR BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE PROVED. THANKS, NFJ**
Leaf,
He was talking about BCBST rates. If you haven't noticed before now, other insurers usually follow in step with bcbst. Not because they are blind followers but because they have too to keep up. BCBST is good about reacting to the future.
Degage, I am aware of Al's position. Just don't think he will like it when it actually happens. Kind of just going on record if you know what I mean. And yes, if he is anything it appears that he is honest.
Alprova,
Just be prepared for a 30% jump in premiums next year according to a TFP article I read the other day. It WILL drive the cost of private insurance up till one day no one can afford it and then the government will come in and "save the day" with the one payor system.
Then there will be disaster in healthcare.
Most of you know that I am a conservative. But perhaps regarding todays discussion I mostly side with Liberals on this one.
I am fond of many of the entitlement programs, but not as they are run today. I had a special needs child that qualified me for SSI and Medicaid at one time and honestly could not have gotten by without it.
I also went to nursing school with Pell Grants and Student loans, but I worked full time even 2 jobs at one point to support my family. The government help I received was a means to an end for me. The Gov. invested in me and has gotten it's payback several times over by now.
Sadly this is not the way the system is run. There is no means to an end for the masses on gov. assistance.
So I am not totally against them, just don't like the rules in place, or not in place.
16% is a sad representation. I haven't looked it up but I can't remember ever seeing participation that low. Agree that nothing ever changes around here. Money does the talking.
Guess we can expect more of the same around here with the new mayor.
Boston
There is some really sick idiots on here.
Bad News
Yes it appeared that cj85 and Easy ignored the rules of engagement for the thread. Their language was horrible. I flagged both of them multiple times but it appears to have no effect.
Indigent Care
Alprova says,
That may well be what happens, but I am not convinced that insurers are going to be that stupid.
Why?
Because they know doggone well that if they raise their rates to such a degree, they are going to be put out of business.
Al, again that is my precise point. They will have to go out of business. As someone said above you are a numbers guy. Insurances are in it for profit, (even "not for profits"), and they will have to raise their rates to compensate for insuring preexisting conditions along with the ones that are typically uninsurable. Not to mention the millions of fees Obama is collecting from them to help pay for Obamacare.
We will have a one payor system sooner than later unless something is done to curb Obama's agenda.
Disclaimer* THIS IS MY OPINION. PLEASE NO ONE CALL ME A LIAR BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE PROVED. THANKS, NFJ**
Indigent Care
Leaf, He was talking about BCBST rates. If you haven't noticed before now, other insurers usually follow in step with bcbst. Not because they are blind followers but because they have too to keep up. BCBST is good about reacting to the future.
Degage, I am aware of Al's position. Just don't think he will like it when it actually happens. Kind of just going on record if you know what I mean. And yes, if he is anything it appears that he is honest.
Indigent Care
Alprova, Just be prepared for a 30% jump in premiums next year according to a TFP article I read the other day. It WILL drive the cost of private insurance up till one day no one can afford it and then the government will come in and "save the day" with the one payor system. Then there will be disaster in healthcare.
The Ammo
Conservative, That is one of the funniest Videos I have ever seen. As bad as our president is, it could be worse. Biden could be pres.
Expansion
That is exactly correct lkeith. They used to give drug companies 20 yrs to recoup their cost. Things have gotten much (looser)? these days.
Expansion
Thanks. I too DO NOT like stereotyping.
Expansion
Most of you know that I am a conservative. But perhaps regarding todays discussion I mostly side with Liberals on this one.
I am fond of many of the entitlement programs, but not as they are run today. I had a special needs child that qualified me for SSI and Medicaid at one time and honestly could not have gotten by without it.
I also went to nursing school with Pell Grants and Student loans, but I worked full time even 2 jobs at one point to support my family. The government help I received was a means to an end for me. The Gov. invested in me and has gotten it's payback several times over by now.
Sadly this is not the way the system is run. There is no means to an end for the masses on gov. assistance.
So I am not totally against them, just don't like the rules in place, or not in place.
City Politics
16% is a sad representation. I haven't looked it up but I can't remember ever seeing participation that low. Agree that nothing ever changes around here. Money does the talking.
Guess we can expect more of the same around here with the new mayor.