@ 11states …To answer your question, there’s nothing wrong with the Aquarium, movies, or Coolidge park, even the mall, however when it comes to downtown attractions there isn’t a more diverse/multi-cultural mix of business. Go to Atlanta for example and you’ll see Arabic theme venues such as Abiza, then Nashville (Country Capital) you have jazz clubs like B.B. Kings and other urban restaurants. You are right that common interest influence people to patronize with specific establishments but there could be more, in fact the only somewhat “ethnic” themed/referenced business directly downtown would be Sugar’s Ribs (somewhat). To spread more ethnic diversity I would recommend opening businesses that offer more artist outlet for African Americans, ex: Poetry/Slam club, Jazz (real Jazz) Lounge, Upscale Soul Food restaurant, Adult (21+) Soul/Blues Bar or club, and the list goes on and on. And black people, once these esctablishments are open don't ruin it but having stupid shoot-outs and gang violence.
There are so many different facets of African American culture that are positive but unfortunately you have to look hard to find them because it’s not marketed as much as the booty-gyrating, gold-teeth wearing, pants-below-your-butt stereotypes you see on the television, news, and media. I agree that the majority of “hip hop” promoted does suck, especially when you hear stupid songs like “do the stinky leg” and all that other garbage, BUT there are plenty of R&B/black artists out there with real soul and positive musical talents if you open yourself up to look for them and not assume all hip hop is the same: India Arie, Caroline Bailey (not sure if I spelled her name right), Anthony Hamilton, Heather Headley, and even LOCAL artists DerMario Harris and Isaiah Brown.
Things do need to change in the African American community and the community as a whole but that change takes everyone, even if you’re not within that ethnic group to be willing to communicate about race relations even if it makes us uncomfortable but do so in a tolerant, respectful way with ears, minds, hearts open.
@ Rolando, thanks for the vote! Don’t know if I’d make a great city official but would love be a voice for others.
Choosing to disregard anything 01centare said....I agree with you 328Kwebsite 100% about "We have seen few or no invitations to promote an interracial customer base in our downtown areas", and that should be changed HOWEVER black people (the one's involved in the violence) don't do themselves any justice for our cause when everytime we get together in large groups there is a huge street brawl or shooting! Even in ATL, the largest black populated city in the US (other than Memphis which don't even get me started on Memphis) there is less black crime, and we should be nice to our neighbor regardless of race everday, if the pastor is trying to provide a location to include people from various backgrounds then he needs to do more to protect his customers that go there to celebrate, not destroy, which seems to me (personal opinion) more could be done. And speaking personally, I try to get involved with my community and even tutored math/science/reading at Orchard Knob, volunteer at shelter, etc, not trying to toot my own horn but I also don't want to come off as complaining but not adding to the solution. Bottom line: Chattanooga is everyone's city and it's everyone's problem regardless of race if we want to make it a safer place for our residents.
No problem 11states, I've dealt with people like 01centare all my life and sigmtngolf you made some really great points as well.
01centare .....The day I take advice from you or listen to anything you say will be a cold day in H*LL. No one is patting me on the head, I'm just not blinded by stupidity and place blame on anyone/everyone that isn't black for things we need to own up to. And you've completely proven my point 01centare, if a black person speaks out against other blacks they become the enemy which is one of the MAIN, out of numerous problems our community has.
Thanks hmgreen :)
I'm African American and I live in Chattanooga, and I'm sooo sick of the black youth violence in Chattanooga! Even though it pains me to say it, the majority of violence in Chattanooga is black-on-black crime by youth and it makes me so mad, disappointed, and embarrassed. Yes, there are stories of Meth labs and shooting involving white people but those incidents are often isolated to the perp and victim, and don’t spill out into the streets involving innocent bystanders. My husband and I want to open an upscale lounge downtown and we're having the hardest time trying to secure a descent location in the downtown area for our establishment, and not that I could ever really prove it, I do believe part of it is because I’m black and the majority of black owned/operated/ patroned businesses downtown end up in the news for riots, shooting, or stabbings which makes it harder for “good” black people in Chattanooga because we’re all lumped into one group (unfairly), and we only have ourselves to blame as community for that. The black community does need to step up, and that’s not only in Chattanooga, but all over. It’s like the black community crumbled when MLK was killed and we've never had that sense of unity since. Whenever someone tries to broach the topic black people don’t want to hear the truth (referring to the Bill Cosby backlash when he spoke against African Americans) whether its coming from white or black people. To say that black people have equal opportunities as whites in America is untrue but black people can’t continue to use the white oppression excuse for generations on end which unfortunately some do. My parents raised me with the mentality that “your BLACK (and dark skin, not like like Beyonce which makes it even harder in America) plus you’re a Woman so you’re always going to have to give 210% when everyone else (white or light) will only have to give 100%” and that’s just the sad reality we live in America. I’m glad my parents raised me w/ that in mind because it has helped me succeed thus far and will continue to do so in the future at almost anything I put my mind to. Unfortunately not all kids grow up with loving parents which is where the black community needs to step in when raising our own and take care of our own and not be afraid or feel like a “sale out” when we condemn each other’s actions. Fathers are needed in the home, women need to choice your spouse’s better, and we need to revive the “Black is Beautiful, Strong, and Proud” mentality we had.
Lr103, nice to see others stand up for people that normally have no voice (the good citizens I mean of course). And I agree about lifting each other when there is corruption in the justice system. I have the upmost respect for law enforcement/military/anyone authority willing to protect and serve but if they are corrupt then they should be treated no differently than any other person breaking the law. Bad cops make it hard on good citizens (no matter the income), and more importantly make it harder on the good cops out there protecting all of us.
ImTellinYa, when I referred to the man's legality clearly I meant US citizenship which was questioned by larwilb60 due to his race/last name (obviously towards the end of his post he is talking about immigrants), not how long his visits were at the complex. If he lived there unlawfully as a US citizen or "illegal" then he should be punished for falsification. And as far as extra spending, again I agree with saving and treating yourself after paying the important, which is why I mentioned food/shelter/bills... your arguing every point I've addressed and agreed with you on, however, to expect ANYONE to ONLY pay the important things and save the rest is extremely harsh and hard, regardless of income. If that’s the case then there would be no trade market/economy. And that would mean holding everyone to the same standard- Don’t buy ANYTHING unless it’s paying incidentals and save the rest. I also notice no one has challenged the possibility that they could have had the tattoos way before they received government assistance…I too would hope they are trying to get themselves off public assistance but don’t automatically throw the hammer down on people for getting help or assume they are lazy, working the system, criminals, illegal’s, don’t save money, etc. QUESTION FOR EVERYONE POSTING NEGATIVE COMMENTS ABOUT THE COUPLE: If they didn't live in public housing and they were some other white couple complaining about harassment by property management or police, would the comments be the same? NO - comments would be targeted towards the perpetrators, which are the police in this case, who have well documented infractions/accusations against them.
payingattention, I agree with saving as well, dont get me wrong, however, as stated before, we don't know that they didn't have their tattoos before they were in public housing, I get sooo sick an tired of people looking down on anyone who gets assistance. Yes, you have some people that work the system but not all. I pray that if your family is every down and out people show you more kindness and dont jump to conclusions about what you should/should be doing with your money!
YET AGAIN, in another article that has anything to do with someone who's possibly Hispanic or has the last name Martinez, commenter’s want to question his immigration status (larwilb60). I'm sure if he was "illegal" they would have mentioned that in the article seeing how immigration is such a hot topic right now. And the last time I checked, it wasn't a crime to get a tattoo (payingattention), I don't live in public housing but I work two jobs just to make ends meet and my husband works full time as well so getting something like a tattoo after paying out nearly 85% of your check to bills/food/shelter is something you have to do to keep yourself from getting depressed or insane. Some people buy beer, some get tattoos, I buy art supplies, who cares?! How do you know they didn't get their tattoos long before they moved into public housing, and if this economy keeps up the way it is nearly half the US is a pay check away from being in the same boat, show some empathy! And to (mrredskin)I hope your being sarcastic because I would hate think that out of the entire statement where a woman, driving alone, was stopped without cause was harassed, frightened, and made to cry by a police officer that you choose to focus on the dashboard.....I really hope none of you previous commenter’s are Chattanooga residents, I like to think we're better than that here.