quark's comment history

quark said...

Daviss.......

I got you pegged...... Allowing people to formulate their own viewpoints is problematic because they might espouse views different than your own..... It would frankly be comical if not for the number of people on both side of the issue who share your inclination.

Your alluding to Galileo is ironic, in that all he advocated was freedom to form and advocate his own positions regardless of the positions of those in authority. What you suppose that he'd advocate (your position) is precisely the position of those who condemned him because he refused to relent in the face of an officially approved position that differed from his own.

April 7, 2012 at 10:03 a.m.
quark said...

Chet....

Your logic is rock-solid and your rhetoric impervious to further debate..... Can I ask- has mensa signed you up yet? You must be quite self-satisfied.....

April 7, 2012 at 8:52 a.m.
quark said...

Davisss,

You argue with a straw man..... I specifically do not make the argument of equivalence. My position is that regardless of one's standing on the merits of the evolution/creation debate, it only becomes a controversy because of the employment of violence (or the threat of it) in advocating one over the other. The concept of public education is immoral philosophically and breeds just such dissention over trivialities.... A moral and sustainable society recognizes the right of a man to believe what he chooses and recognizes his right to be free from funding that which he finds objectionable..... But i suspect to maintain consistency you'll seek to justify and rationalize totalitarianism as the only possible way of doing things. The alternative is too appalling - people might believe unapproved things and you'd have no mechanism for attempting to end the debate rather than to win it on the merits.

April 7, 2012 at 8:43 a.m.
quark said...

Clay may - or may not - be grinding on an axe here.... one possible reading is that the teacher is being taken to task for a 'my religion is better than your religion' play at irony...

At any rate, the logical dissonance in the premise is not because of the existence of competing dogmas, but that both pro and con feel a moral justification to force their own dogma onto others and compel its funding with other people's money. End the enforcement of a broken system of compulsory public indoctrination and a lot of these battles become as irrelevant as differences in allegiance to sports teams.

April 7, 2012 at 7:59 a.m.
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