EASY "Most of that 40% don't make enough money to pay federal income tax. Most are the lowest 40% of earners. Do you really not understand that?"
And the article you provided will never tell you how much they are making off of government assistance like SCHIP, food stamps, and other entilement programs that are not figured into the wages they earn.
Bulbs said "You just assume they're all blanklless welfare leeches as part of your dogma."
I never said or assumed that they are all blankless welfare leeches. I did call them parasites because there are a great majority who game the system for all it is worth and refuse to better themselves because they know the government will give them more. It was you who called them blankless welfare leeches so now we know how you really feel about people on welfare. The truth comes out on happtobeahypocrite.
EASY, I'm not demonizing Pena, and I do not have a problem with either company.
If Obama had serious convictions about Bain and all the workers he is using who lost their jobs when Bain had to close plants and lay off employees then he would not have Pena involved in his campaign. But Obama really doesn't give a crap about those workers they are just pawns. It is all about Obama.
Bulbs said "Really, do you think the rich people don't benefit from having skilled and educated workers that were taught at public schools? Or a healthy workforce that is protected by public sanitation efforts?"
At least those you call rich in your post are paying federal income tax unlike 40 plus percent of Americans who are not. It is time those who are not paying federal income taxes to start paying their fair share and quit being parasites.
TOES and mymy, notice how the left is not saying a word about Federico Pena who is one of Obama's campaign spokesmen, and is also a private equity manager of Vestar Capital. Pena has been with Vestar Capital since 2000 and during this time they have purchased Solo Cup Company, Del Monte, and Birds Eye Foods to name a few. With each of these companies Vestar has closed plants, laid off employees and relocated plants other counries.
Al when you talk about big oil paying off our politicians are you talking Obama being paid off as well? The New York Times reports: "those who donated the most to Mr. Obama and the Democratic Party since he started running for president were far more likely to visit the White House than others. Among donors who gave $30,000 or less, about 20 percent visited the White House, according to a New York Times analysis that matched names in the visitor logs with donor records. But among those who donated $100,000 or more, the figure rises to about 75 percent. Approximately two-thirds of the president’s top fund-raisers in the 2008 campaign visited the White House at least once, some of them numerous times."
But the most explosive allegation in the news story comes from former Democratic congressman Patrick Kennedy, son of the late Ted Kenney, who calls what the Obama White House is doing "quid pro quo."
Al said "Do you think that these people now making and banking profits from fossil fuels care one whit about you, once their sources of income are all pumped from the ground?"
These people also produce other types of energy besides fossil fuel and oil companies employee hundrerd of thousands of people. I don't care what if they care one whit for me. But since you have such strong feelings about big oil stop purchasing their product. Do you thinbk Solyandra gave a crap about you when the too $500 million of tax payer money knowing they were not going to make it any ways.
But seriously Al since you have such strong feelings against big oil then you have a ethical and moral obligation to stop purchasing their products and that includes all oil base products.
Al said You're free to consider any source you feel that supports the position you agree with, but in my humble estimation, Politifact, which has established a firm record of impartiality, reliability, and works extremely hard not to be refuted, more than trumps the musings of a blogger submitted post on the Washington Times website.
Al, said "Tell me what jobs Obama created in the private sector."
"No President has the power to create any jobs in the private sector."
Excatly so please tell that to Easy123 as this is what he posted earlier stating Obama created and saved millions of jobs, and the list goes on.
Of course Obama giving close to a billion dollars of taxpayer money to business that were failing to begain with and Obama knew they were in trouble like Solynda and they ended up going bankrupt is our fault. Obama has no responsability in any of this does he? He continues to pick and choose what industries and unions he wants to succeed and who he wants to pay back to and we are paying for it. Of course this is all our fault.
Al the recession ended in June 2009, though lingering effects such as high unemployment continued to plague the United States well beyond that date.
"In determining that a trough occurred in June 2009, the committee did not conclude that economic conditions since that month have been favorable or that the economy has returned to operating at normal capacity," the NBER reported in September 2010. "Rather, the committee determined only that the recession ended and a recovery began in that month."
Presidents economic policies play a big part on how the economy recovers. After 16 months into the economic recovery under Reagan the nation’s unemployment had already fallen a full three points. After 16 months into the economic recovery under Obama the nation’s unemployment rate is actually .1 points higher.
You mention it took nearly twenty years after the Great Depression to upright the economy of the United States, and had World War II not come along, it might have taken another twenty years more.
Do you see a pattern here with FDR's and Obama's policies. More government control , spedning and higher taxes do not work.
Al, Obama's healthcare law will put private insurance companies out of business. A majority of companies that currently offer health insurance have said they will stop offering this benefit and will pay the fine instead. This will force these people to go medicaid which the govt insurance will be.
Drilling has increased on private land andd not on federal land Al. Obama know this and still wants to take credit for this as well ahich is dishonest.
Al remember in January 2011 when Obama said he had a new get tough policy on overregulation. Obama said "rules have gotten out of balance” and “have had a chilling effect on growth and jobs,” Obama pledged a comprehensive review of regulations imposed by the federal government. He Obama has admitted to over regulation. Please see the below link for more information.
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2012/03/red-tape-rising-obama-era-regulation-at-the-three-year-mark
With the trade agreements you can not blame the democrats or republicans as these agreements were sitting on Obama's desk while he was out traveling around the country blaming the republicans.
So, if a company makes a profit we should take their tax break away? Is that what you are saying? Or we should just take them away from big oil, banks and the insurance industry because they are evil?
Cheap Shots
EASY "Most of that 40% don't make enough money to pay federal income tax. Most are the lowest 40% of earners. Do you really not understand that?"
And the article you provided will never tell you how much they are making off of government assistance like SCHIP, food stamps, and other entilement programs that are not figured into the wages they earn.
Bulbs said "You just assume they're all blanklless welfare leeches as part of your dogma."
I never said or assumed that they are all blankless welfare leeches. I did call them parasites because there are a great majority who game the system for all it is worth and refuse to better themselves because they know the government will give them more. It was you who called them blankless welfare leeches so now we know how you really feel about people on welfare. The truth comes out on happtobeahypocrite.
Cheap Shots
EASY, I'm not demonizing Pena, and I do not have a problem with either company.
If Obama had serious convictions about Bain and all the workers he is using who lost their jobs when Bain had to close plants and lay off employees then he would not have Pena involved in his campaign. But Obama really doesn't give a crap about those workers they are just pawns. It is all about Obama.
Cheap Shots
Bulbs said "Really, do you think the rich people don't benefit from having skilled and educated workers that were taught at public schools? Or a healthy workforce that is protected by public sanitation efforts?"
At least those you call rich in your post are paying federal income tax unlike 40 plus percent of Americans who are not. It is time those who are not paying federal income taxes to start paying their fair share and quit being parasites.
Cheap Shots
TOES and mymy, notice how the left is not saying a word about Federico Pena who is one of Obama's campaign spokesmen, and is also a private equity manager of Vestar Capital. Pena has been with Vestar Capital since 2000 and during this time they have purchased Solo Cup Company, Del Monte, and Birds Eye Foods to name a few. With each of these companies Vestar has closed plants, laid off employees and relocated plants other counries.
Cheap Shots
Easy123 said "The rich do need to pay their fair share." Please tell us what is rich and what should their fair share be.
Bennett Archive: Justice
Al when you talk about big oil paying off our politicians are you talking Obama being paid off as well? The New York Times reports: "those who donated the most to Mr. Obama and the Democratic Party since he started running for president were far more likely to visit the White House than others. Among donors who gave $30,000 or less, about 20 percent visited the White House, according to a New York Times analysis that matched names in the visitor logs with donor records. But among those who donated $100,000 or more, the figure rises to about 75 percent. Approximately two-thirds of the president’s top fund-raisers in the 2008 campaign visited the White House at least once, some of them numerous times."
But the most explosive allegation in the news story comes from former Democratic congressman Patrick Kennedy, son of the late Ted Kenney, who calls what the Obama White House is doing "quid pro quo."
Al said "Do you think that these people now making and banking profits from fossil fuels care one whit about you, once their sources of income are all pumped from the ground?"
These people also produce other types of energy besides fossil fuel and oil companies employee hundrerd of thousands of people. I don't care what if they care one whit for me. But since you have such strong feelings about big oil stop purchasing their product. Do you thinbk Solyandra gave a crap about you when the too $500 million of tax payer money knowing they were not going to make it any ways.
But seriously Al since you have such strong feelings against big oil then you have a ethical and moral obligation to stop purchasing their products and that includes all oil base products.
Bennett Archive: Justice
Al said You're free to consider any source you feel that supports the position you agree with, but in my humble estimation, Politifact, which has established a firm record of impartiality, reliability, and works extremely hard not to be refuted, more than trumps the musings of a blogger submitted post on the Washington Times website.
Al you did not even read the link I proivided because if you had you wopuld have seen it was from the washington post not the washington times. Are ytou afraid to know the truth Al? You claim you are for the truth yet you refuse to read something that will prove you wrong. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/the-facts-about-the-growth-of-spending-under-obama/2012/05/24/gJQAIJh6nU_blog.html#pagebreak
Bennett Archive: Justice
Al, said "Tell me what jobs Obama created in the private sector."
"No President has the power to create any jobs in the private sector."
Excatly so please tell that to Easy123 as this is what he posted earlier stating Obama created and saved millions of jobs, and the list goes on.
Of course Obama giving close to a billion dollars of taxpayer money to business that were failing to begain with and Obama knew they were in trouble like Solynda and they ended up going bankrupt is our fault. Obama has no responsability in any of this does he? He continues to pick and choose what industries and unions he wants to succeed and who he wants to pay back to and we are paying for it. Of course this is all our fault.
Bennett Archive: Justice
Al the recession ended in June 2009, though lingering effects such as high unemployment continued to plague the United States well beyond that date.
"In determining that a trough occurred in June 2009, the committee did not conclude that economic conditions since that month have been favorable or that the economy has returned to operating at normal capacity," the NBER reported in September 2010. "Rather, the committee determined only that the recession ended and a recovery began in that month."
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/moneymatters/a/When-Did-The-Great-Recession-End.htm
recession, I'm sorry I misspoke this started in the 1990's with the policy on home ownership. http://hotair.com/archives/2011/11/01/bloomberg-to-ows-congress-caused-the-mortgage-crisis-not-the-banks/
Presidents economic policies play a big part on how the economy recovers. After 16 months into the economic recovery under Reagan the nation’s unemployment had already fallen a full three points. After 16 months into the economic recovery under Obama the nation’s unemployment rate is actually .1 points higher.
You mention it took nearly twenty years after the Great Depression to upright the economy of the United States, and had World War II not come along, it might have taken another twenty years more.
Do you see a pattern here with FDR's and Obama's policies. More government control , spedning and higher taxes do not work.
Bennett Archive: Justice
Al, Obama's healthcare law will put private insurance companies out of business. A majority of companies that currently offer health insurance have said they will stop offering this benefit and will pay the fine instead. This will force these people to go medicaid which the govt insurance will be.
Drilling has increased on private land andd not on federal land Al. Obama know this and still wants to take credit for this as well ahich is dishonest.
Al remember in January 2011 when Obama said he had a new get tough policy on overregulation. Obama said "rules have gotten out of balance” and “have had a chilling effect on growth and jobs,” Obama pledged a comprehensive review of regulations imposed by the federal government. He Obama has admitted to over regulation. Please see the below link for more information. http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2012/03/red-tape-rising-obama-era-regulation-at-the-three-year-mark
With the trade agreements you can not blame the democrats or republicans as these agreements were sitting on Obama's desk while he was out traveling around the country blaming the republicans.
So, if a company makes a profit we should take their tax break away? Is that what you are saying? Or we should just take them away from big oil, banks and the insurance industry because they are evil?