easy said "When your child shoots himself or someone else in the face, then you'll wish you had secured your weapon. It's not exactly an enforceable law, it's just the smart thing to do.:
Why don't you give a direct answer to the question I asked. Here it is again:
You are at home and with your family and a armed suspect(s) breaks in. Are you going to tell the suspect(s) to stop so you can unlock your gun?
easy said "Police already have that right as long as they have a warrant. Securing your weapons is the smart thing to do."
So you are fine with the police coming in to your house to see if your weapon is locked. Sounds like a police state.
If you would have read the link I provided you would see it what they wanted the sheriff's to do is unconstitutional by requiring the sheriff of each county to check peoples homes to see if they still owned an assault rifle. A first year law student knows probable cause is required to obtain a warrant.
BobMKE, excellent post,glad to have you back. Bob ever notice the liberals do not want us to have guns but they have no problem keeping theirs. Bloomberg has his armed body guards, Feinstein will not give up her armed guards or her carry permit. How many of the Hollywood elite that want more gun control also have their own armed guards as well.
tifosi, since you will not answer the Fast and Furious question maybe you will answer these:
If you make a law that guns must be secure how will this law be enforced? Will police have the right to come and search your home any time of day or night to make sure your weapons are secure? Don't think this has not been discussed. In the State of Washington they tried to slip it into a bill with regards to people who owned semi automatic "assault weapons" and when it was discovered of course everyone said it was a mistake that it had been put into the law.
tifosi, said The majority of guns that get into gang hands occur from sales at gun stores and "straw" sales through Federal Firearm Licensed dealers. Too bad the NRA refuses to stop this.
How do you feel about Fast and Furious where our government allowed firearms to be sold through strawman purchases to Mexican drug cartels that ended up with hundreds injured and killed including a U.S. Border Patrol Agent?
anicorp, The facts are the Republican Congress presented a tax bill that balanced the budget along with tax cuts in 1997 which Clinton signed. The facts are the last half of the 1990's the economy took off after the tax cuts were signed into law. The facts are the economy sucked after Clinton rose taxes in 1993. These are not talking points, they are facts but they do not fit your agenda just like they do not fit rickaroo.
rickaroo, the report covered Clintons last term and Bush first term. Clinton did raise taxes but that was in 1993 and the economy did not respond favorably at all. It wasn’t until 1997 when the Republican Congress a tax bill that balanced the budget and cut capital gains taxes from 28% to 20% and established higher limits on tax exclusion for IRAs and estates.
Since you seem to have a problem with the salaries CEO’s make do you also have a problem with the money pro athletes and Hollywood stars make?
How much should a CEO make?
If you offered a job that paid that type of money would you turn it down?
I noticed you mention the numbers are skewed but you offered nothing to support this so you bring a black man conservative into the conversation by mentioning Thomas Sowell, which shouldn’t surprise me since you have made it perfectly clear how you feel about black conservatives. Keep playing the race card when you are losing the argument.
rickaroo said the conservatives have seen to it that the money has been funneled upward instead of distributed in a more equitable way that would enable more people to enjoy a higher standard of living.
This report from the Treasury Department says differently.
TirnaNOG, Jesse made the following post to you at 12:32pm "Tirna, O K so what if the stats are not spot on, they STILL are indicative of whats goin on!"
"When L.B.J. started his govmt.funded vote buying scheme,(war on poverty) w/the provision that a household was ineligible for support if the father was in residence> it set in motion a breakdown of family in the black community! Then along came Nixons war on drugs which put all them fatherless bros out on the corner makin some bucks the only way they could! We are in the 3rd.generation of this cycle w/ no answers in sight! Now ,40 years later the GANG has replaced the FAMILY! The toothpaste is out of the tube and i don't think it's ever gonna get put back in!!"
Your response was I can still recall some of the things they, Repubs, said in interviews. Such as,"We'll take care of the women and children, but only if there's no man in the house."
In Jesse's post he mentions the war on poverty set in motion the break down of the family in the black community and I provided a comment made by The Late Daniel Patrick Moynihan Former N.Y.U.S. Senator (D)where he is confirming what Jesse posted.
The conversation dealt with the war on poverty breaking down the families in the black community.
Please provide the name or names of the Republican(s) that you alleged made the comment "We'll take care of the women and children, but only if there's no man in the house."
TirnaNOG said... I can still recall some of the things they, Repubs, said in interviews. Such as,"We'll take care of the women and children, but only if there's no man in the house."
Please provide the name or names of the republicans who made this statement.
"The steady expansion of welfare programs can be taken as a measure of the steady disintegration of the Negro family structure over the past generation in the United States." The Late Daniel Patrick Moynihan Former N.Y.U.S. Senator (D)
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If someone is breaking into my house I want immediate access to the weapon and not have to worry about getting it unlocked.
Tell you what Easy, if you own a gun go ahead and lock it up that is your decision and I will decide how I want to keep my gun in my home.
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easy said "When your child shoots himself or someone else in the face, then you'll wish you had secured your weapon. It's not exactly an enforceable law, it's just the smart thing to do.:
Why don't you give a direct answer to the question I asked. Here it is again:
You are at home and with your family and a armed suspect(s) breaks in. Are you going to tell the suspect(s) to stop so you can unlock your gun?
Bad News
easy said "Police already have that right as long as they have a warrant. Securing your weapons is the smart thing to do."
So you are fine with the police coming in to your house to see if your weapon is locked. Sounds like a police state.
If you would have read the link I provided you would see it what they wanted the sheriff's to do is unconstitutional by requiring the sheriff of each county to check peoples homes to see if they still owned an assault rifle. A first year law student knows probable cause is required to obtain a warrant.
Bad News
BobMKE, excellent post,glad to have you back. Bob ever notice the liberals do not want us to have guns but they have no problem keeping theirs. Bloomberg has his armed body guards, Feinstein will not give up her armed guards or her carry permit. How many of the Hollywood elite that want more gun control also have their own armed guards as well.
tifosi, since you will not answer the Fast and Furious question maybe you will answer these:
If you make a law that guns must be secure how will this law be enforced? Will police have the right to come and search your home any time of day or night to make sure your weapons are secure? Don't think this has not been discussed. In the State of Washington they tried to slip it into a bill with regards to people who owned semi automatic "assault weapons" and when it was discovered of course everyone said it was a mistake that it had been put into the law.
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2020373291_westneat17xml.html
You are at home and with your family and a armed suspect(s) breaks in. Are you going to tell the suspect(s) to stop so you can unlock your gun?
Bad News
tifosi, said The majority of guns that get into gang hands occur from sales at gun stores and "straw" sales through Federal Firearm Licensed dealers. Too bad the NRA refuses to stop this.
How do you feel about Fast and Furious where our government allowed firearms to be sold through strawman purchases to Mexican drug cartels that ended up with hundreds injured and killed including a U.S. Border Patrol Agent?
Health care costs spiral sets u.s. apart in the world
anicorp, The facts are the Republican Congress presented a tax bill that balanced the budget along with tax cuts in 1997 which Clinton signed. The facts are the last half of the 1990's the economy took off after the tax cuts were signed into law. The facts are the economy sucked after Clinton rose taxes in 1993. These are not talking points, they are facts but they do not fit your agenda just like they do not fit rickaroo.
Health care costs spiral sets u.s. apart in the world
rickaroo, the report covered Clintons last term and Bush first term. Clinton did raise taxes but that was in 1993 and the economy did not respond favorably at all. It wasn’t until 1997 when the Republican Congress a tax bill that balanced the budget and cut capital gains taxes from 28% to 20% and established higher limits on tax exclusion for IRAs and estates.
Since you seem to have a problem with the salaries CEO’s make do you also have a problem with the money pro athletes and Hollywood stars make?
How much should a CEO make?
If you offered a job that paid that type of money would you turn it down?
I noticed you mention the numbers are skewed but you offered nothing to support this so you bring a black man conservative into the conversation by mentioning Thomas Sowell, which shouldn’t surprise me since you have made it perfectly clear how you feel about black conservatives. Keep playing the race card when you are losing the argument.
Health care costs spiral sets u.s. apart in the world
rickaroo said the conservatives have seen to it that the money has been funneled upward instead of distributed in a more equitable way that would enable more people to enjoy a higher standard of living.
This report from the Treasury Department says differently.
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/tax-policy/Documents/incomemobilitystudy03-08revise.pdf
Crime Rate
TirnaNOG, Jesse made the following post to you at 12:32pm "Tirna, O K so what if the stats are not spot on, they STILL are indicative of whats goin on!"
"When L.B.J. started his govmt.funded vote buying scheme,(war on poverty) w/the provision that a household was ineligible for support if the father was in residence> it set in motion a breakdown of family in the black community! Then along came Nixons war on drugs which put all them fatherless bros out on the corner makin some bucks the only way they could! We are in the 3rd.generation of this cycle w/ no answers in sight! Now ,40 years later the GANG has replaced the FAMILY! The toothpaste is out of the tube and i don't think it's ever gonna get put back in!!"
Your response was I can still recall some of the things they, Repubs, said in interviews. Such as,"We'll take care of the women and children, but only if there's no man in the house."
In Jesse's post he mentions the war on poverty set in motion the break down of the family in the black community and I provided a comment made by The Late Daniel Patrick Moynihan Former N.Y.U.S. Senator (D)where he is confirming what Jesse posted.
The conversation dealt with the war on poverty breaking down the families in the black community.
Please provide the name or names of the Republican(s) that you alleged made the comment "We'll take care of the women and children, but only if there's no man in the house."
Crime Rate
TirnaNOG said... I can still recall some of the things they, Repubs, said in interviews. Such as,"We'll take care of the women and children, but only if there's no man in the house."
Please provide the name or names of the republicans who made this statement.
"The steady expansion of welfare programs can be taken as a measure of the steady disintegration of the Negro family structure over the past generation in the United States." The Late Daniel Patrick Moynihan Former N.Y.U.S. Senator (D)