easy123...I have been at Parkridge in the day,at night,at every conceivable time and especially before they put up the current fence and began to close all,but one,entrances at night,the parking lot was a dangerous place. I was going to my car one night and witnessed a gunfight between the police and two guys in a car. The police denied there were any shots fired until a local tv station showed the bullet holes in the houses.Perhaps you didn't feel like you were in danger because of your ignorance of the area.If you didn't work there you never heard about all the crime that occurred in the parking lot and around the hospital. Believe me we heard all about it. It was rarely on the news but the staff knew about it. Please,feel free to wander around the neighborhoods in the early morning hours all you want.
The body I am talking about was not in 1979,I didn't work there in 1979 and it happened not too many years before I retired which was less than a half a dozen years ago. When it happened a couple of the old timers told me about the one in 1979 but I don't recall them stating what year is was,only that it wasn't the first time. Parkridge has had armed security for less than 5 years.
easy123...the body I was talking about was in 2003,or 2004. Maybe even after that,I can't remember the exact year but it was within the last ten years.
I don't care one whit if you call bull$hit or not. It happened.
I even saw from the 4th floor west nurses station window as a car load of teens rolled up got out and stole a car and left the already stolen car they were in running in the parking lot. We alerted the police and the car was recovered within an hour. How did I know it was being stolen,you ask? Because it was parked right next to mine and I knew the owner.
Do you even live in Chattanooga? Or are you one of those that deny Chattanooga has a gang problem?
easy125... I know for a damn fact that employees and guests to Parkridge have been assaulted,robbed,dead bodies found in the trunk of a car in the parking lot of this hospital. So many car's stolen that they don't even come as a surprise to the staff anymore. A female friend of mine was able to defend herself,when she was called into work in the early morning hours,only because she produced a legally carried gun and ran off the would be attacker. The hospital now has armed security guards which they hadn't had for over 25 years.
If the Tennessee legislature had not passed this bill,how would it have been enforced? Would the companies have been given the right to search an employees car? If someone were carjacked on the way to worked and killed because they couldn't carry their legal gun and leave it in their car,who would be responsible for that death?Many places of business in Chattanooga are in very dangerous neighborhoods. The three biggest hospitals are in very dangerous areas. If a business wants to fire someone for bringing a gun onto their property they have the right to do so. It can be placed in the employee handbook that it is an offense that can result in termination of the employee,just like fighting or theft.
limric said...I hope you all liked George Orwell’s book 1984 – because you’re going to (are) be living in it.
Yes,and people like oldhickory just can't wait. As the drones begin to fly over American cities(to aid in law enforcement) the rights to privacy will erode. Wonder how he will feel when he looks out his bedroom window and sees a hovering drone. They will simply be checking to make sure he's not smoking pot or plotting against the government. If they see anything else,well, that just comes with the territory.
alprova said...
tderng wrote: "Then we have people like Al, who are more concerned if someone has a penis pump and is taking viagra then our country giving fighter jets to a government that is run by a member of a terrorist group."
Rickaroo said...
tdering, correct me if I'm wrong but we don't have dead bodies piling up from wordy lunatics or otherwise bad people spraying clips full of words at crowds of people. Words have power, yes, but I still haven't known of anybody to be killed directly from them. Your argument makes no sense whatsoever.
Words have killed more people,perhaps indirectly,than guns ever will. After all the pen is mightier than the sword. So should we regulate words? People throughout history have been whipped into a killing frenzy by the use of words and guns weren't even used until relatively recently.
I don't know about you but I prefer the right to defend myself in any manner I see fit. People who say that we wouldn't have a chance against the government should look to those fighting for freedom in the middle east against well armed governments. Somehow they are winning the wars there. Syria has very modern weapons and control of the skies and yet they are on the verge of being defeated by a loosely regulated poorly equipped militia of its citizens.
tifosi said...
If guns don't kill people, why do we give people guns when they go to war? Why don't we just send people?
tifosi,when your house was built did the builders use their bare hands to shape the wood? Did they use their bare hands to dig the foundation? Of course not,they used tools. Just as anyone using a gun is merely using a tool to accomplish their desired result.Sometimes the tool is misused or the tool falls into the hands of someone who doesn't know how to use it. But in the end it is only a tool.
Anyone who says that the 2nd amendment is out of date because the weapons back then were muskets should agree the same logic can apply to the 1st amendment. Any use of an electrical device to spread the thoughts of an individual should be subject to governmental regulations. Any use of said devices to spread other than government sponsored propaganda should be subject to fines imprisonment or both. After all the framers of the constitution could never have forseen radio,tv,or the internet. The only way back then to spread their beliefs was written on paper or shouted from a soapbox. So how about it tifosi,want to repeal the 1st amendment too?
The Gun Debate
easy123...I have been at Parkridge in the day,at night,at every conceivable time and especially before they put up the current fence and began to close all,but one,entrances at night,the parking lot was a dangerous place. I was going to my car one night and witnessed a gunfight between the police and two guys in a car. The police denied there were any shots fired until a local tv station showed the bullet holes in the houses.Perhaps you didn't feel like you were in danger because of your ignorance of the area.If you didn't work there you never heard about all the crime that occurred in the parking lot and around the hospital. Believe me we heard all about it. It was rarely on the news but the staff knew about it. Please,feel free to wander around the neighborhoods in the early morning hours all you want.
The body I am talking about was not in 1979,I didn't work there in 1979 and it happened not too many years before I retired which was less than a half a dozen years ago. When it happened a couple of the old timers told me about the one in 1979 but I don't recall them stating what year is was,only that it wasn't the first time. Parkridge has had armed security for less than 5 years.
The Gun Debate
easy123...the body I was talking about was in 2003,or 2004. Maybe even after that,I can't remember the exact year but it was within the last ten years.
I don't care one whit if you call bull$hit or not. It happened.
I even saw from the 4th floor west nurses station window as a car load of teens rolled up got out and stole a car and left the already stolen car they were in running in the parking lot. We alerted the police and the car was recovered within an hour. How did I know it was being stolen,you ask? Because it was parked right next to mine and I knew the owner.
Do you even live in Chattanooga? Or are you one of those that deny Chattanooga has a gang problem?
The Gun Debate
easy125... I know for a damn fact that employees and guests to Parkridge have been assaulted,robbed,dead bodies found in the trunk of a car in the parking lot of this hospital. So many car's stolen that they don't even come as a surprise to the staff anymore. A female friend of mine was able to defend herself,when she was called into work in the early morning hours,only because she produced a legally carried gun and ran off the would be attacker. The hospital now has armed security guards which they hadn't had for over 25 years.
The Gun Debate
If the Tennessee legislature had not passed this bill,how would it have been enforced? Would the companies have been given the right to search an employees car? If someone were carjacked on the way to worked and killed because they couldn't carry their legal gun and leave it in their car,who would be responsible for that death?Many places of business in Chattanooga are in very dangerous neighborhoods. The three biggest hospitals are in very dangerous areas. If a business wants to fire someone for bringing a gun onto their property they have the right to do so. It can be placed in the employee handbook that it is an offense that can result in termination of the employee,just like fighting or theft.
The Drone
limric said...I hope you all liked George Orwell’s book 1984 – because you’re going to (are) be living in it.
Yes,and people like oldhickory just can't wait. As the drones begin to fly over American cities(to aid in law enforcement) the rights to privacy will erode. Wonder how he will feel when he looks out his bedroom window and sees a hovering drone. They will simply be checking to make sure he's not smoking pot or plotting against the government. If they see anything else,well, that just comes with the territory.
Bennett Archive: Gun Safety
dude_abides has an adolescent(?) fixation on mens tools.
Bennett Archive: Gun Safety
alprova said... tderng wrote: "Then we have people like Al, who are more concerned if someone has a penis pump and is taking viagra then our country giving fighter jets to a government that is run by a member of a terrorist group."
alprova... that was not posted by me.
Bennett Archive: Gun Safety
Rickaroo said... tdering, correct me if I'm wrong but we don't have dead bodies piling up from wordy lunatics or otherwise bad people spraying clips full of words at crowds of people. Words have power, yes, but I still haven't known of anybody to be killed directly from them. Your argument makes no sense whatsoever.
Words have killed more people,perhaps indirectly,than guns ever will. After all the pen is mightier than the sword. So should we regulate words? People throughout history have been whipped into a killing frenzy by the use of words and guns weren't even used until relatively recently.
I don't know about you but I prefer the right to defend myself in any manner I see fit. People who say that we wouldn't have a chance against the government should look to those fighting for freedom in the middle east against well armed governments. Somehow they are winning the wars there. Syria has very modern weapons and control of the skies and yet they are on the verge of being defeated by a loosely regulated poorly equipped militia of its citizens.
Bennett Archive: Gun Safety
tifosi said... If guns don't kill people, why do we give people guns when they go to war? Why don't we just send people?
tifosi,when your house was built did the builders use their bare hands to shape the wood? Did they use their bare hands to dig the foundation? Of course not,they used tools. Just as anyone using a gun is merely using a tool to accomplish their desired result.Sometimes the tool is misused or the tool falls into the hands of someone who doesn't know how to use it. But in the end it is only a tool.
Bennett Archive: Gun Safety
Anyone who says that the 2nd amendment is out of date because the weapons back then were muskets should agree the same logic can apply to the 1st amendment. Any use of an electrical device to spread the thoughts of an individual should be subject to governmental regulations. Any use of said devices to spread other than government sponsored propaganda should be subject to fines imprisonment or both. After all the framers of the constitution could never have forseen radio,tv,or the internet. The only way back then to spread their beliefs was written on paper or shouted from a soapbox. So how about it tifosi,want to repeal the 1st amendment too?