librul said...”St John Chrysostom, commenting on I Timothy 6:1-5 and other biblical mandates for human slavery, quoted from Helen Ellerbe, The Dark Side of Christian History. Helen's book is a great read - it puts a lot of things in perspective.”
Nope. She cites no sources. No one before her has ever attributed the quote to Chrysostom. (Nor to anyone else for that matter, since she simply made it up.) It makes for scintillating fodder for online atheist chatterboxes, but not much else. Surely you can do better.
Rickaroo said...There is NO evidence whatsoever, other than the writings of the Bible, that such a human being ever existed.
Name one credible scholar who agrees with you.
Care to cite your specific source for the quote on slavery, Librul?
(Been reading the same sort of rubbish in atheist screeds for years.)
“The great majority of people will go on observing forms that cannot be explained; they will keep Christmas Day with Christmas gifts and Christmas benedictions; they will continue to do it; and some day suddenly wake up and discover why.” - G. K. Chesterton
lkeithlu said...Jesus was most likely born in the spring (April) not in December, based on details from scripture. The early church deliberately overlapped the existing midwinter festivals.
This is truly shocking, lkeithlu!! Thanks for disabusing the world of this horrendous fraud. (And with such glee!)
G.K. Chesterton sniffed out such tired pedantry a century ago:
“THERE is one very vile habit that the pedants have, and that is explaining to a man why he does a thing when the man himself can explain quite well — and quite differently. If I go down on all-fours to find sixpence, it annoys me to be told by a passing biologist that I am really doing it because my remote ancestors were quadrupeds. I concede that he knows all about biology, or even a great deal about my ancestors; but I know he is wrong, because he does not know about the sixpence. If I climb a tree after a stray cat, I am unconvinced when a stray anthropologist tells me that I am doing it because I am essentially arboreal and barbaric. I happen to know why I am doing it; and I know it is because I am amiable and somewhat over-civilised. Scientists will talk to a man on general guess-work about things that they know no more about than about his pocket-money or his pet cat. Religion is one of them, and all the festivals and formalities that are rooted in religion. Thus a man will tell me that in keeping Christmas I am not keeping a Christmas feast, but a pagan feast. This is exactly as if he told me that I was not feeling furiously angry, but only a little sad. I know how I am feeling all right; and why I am feeling it. I know this in the case of cats, sixpences, anger, and Christmas Day. When a learned man tells me that on the 25th of December I am really astronomically worshipping the sun, I answer that I am not. I am practicing a particular personal religion, the pleasures of which (right or wrong) are not in the least astronomical. If he says that the cult of Christianity and the cult of Apollo are the same, I answer that they are utterly different; and I ought to know for I have held both of them. I believed in Apollo when I was quite little; and I believe in Christmas now that I am very, very big.”
Winter solstice - the reason for the season?
Not anymore. (Thank God.)
Thankful for the thoughtful responses to cartoons like this. They’re great for democracy, civility, and making the world a better place.
I am thankful that Clay is so committed to avoiding distractions from the important issues at hand.
Clay Bennett, Pulitzer Prize-winning contortion artist. Obama’s pants are on fire, and it’s a REPUBLICAN distraction? Republicans do not have what it takes to pull off something this good. No, the crows have simply begun coming home to roost. After this, no one will trust the Intern’s single-payer prescription, save the few sycophants left standing. Let the feats of contortion continue.