published Monday, March 15th, 2010

Belief in autism-vaccine link persists

by Emily Bregel
Audio clip

Dr. Kelly Moore

As a baby, Benjamin Ransom was ever-smiling and giggling. The photographer at Sears didn't even have to joke with him to get him to grin for a family photo, recalls his father, Jeff Ransom, of Fort Oglethorpe.

But soon after he reached 15 months, Benjamin seemed to change into a different child. He ceased smiling and avoided eye contact. His speech reverted from clear words into baby babble, and finally he stopped talking altogether, Mr. Ransom said.

"He just had a blank stare on his face," he said.

After a year of failed speech therapy, Benjamin -- who is now 10 -- was diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder, an increasingly common diagnosis characterized by a difficulty in verbal and nonverbal communication and social interactions. Severity can range from very mild to debilitating.

But despite medical evidence to the contrary, Mr. Ransom is convinced that a series of recommended vaccines his son received at 15 months -- including protection against measles, mumps and rubella, and Hib meningitis -- prompted the sudden change in his son, who stopped talking in the weeks following his vaccination.

"You're not going to convince me vaccines did not change my child," Mr. Ransom said. "I saw it."

PDF: IOM report on autism, vaccines


* Lack or delay in spoken language

* Repetitive use of language and/or motor mannerisms, e.g., hand-flapping, twirling objects

* Little or no eye contact

* Lack of interest in peer relationships

* Lack of spontaneous or make-believe play

* Persistent fixation on parts of objects

Source: Autism Society of America


* Team Centers: 423-622-0500

* Siskin Children's Institute: 423-648-1700,

* Autism Society of Middle Tennessee: 615-385-2077

* Orange Grove Center: 423-629-1451


Those who maintain there is a link between vaccines and autism often cite research by Dr. Mark Geier and his son David. But the Institute of Medicine has said those studies were flawed.

The Geiers, who spoke in Chattanooga last year at an event organized by the Complementary Health Education Organizations, have done a number of studies analyzing data in the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, maintained by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. They claimed to have found a higher risk for complaints related to autism among children who received a thimserosal-containing vaccine.

The Institute of Medicine, which analyzed research on the issue, wrote that the Geier studies have "serious methodological flaws and their analytic methods were nontransparent, making their results uninterpretable." The American Academy of Pediatrics, in its critique of a 2003 Geier study, has said that reliance on this reporting system, in which most complaints are voluntary and reporting is inconsistent, is invalid.

The debate over the connection between autism and vaccines, particularly those that contain thimerosal -- a preservative that contains mercury -- has been fueled by the alarming rise in the number of children diagnosed with the condition and the proliferation of Web sites, often led by advocacy groups for parents of children with autism, that argue vaccines cause autism, experts say.

About one in every 110 children now has a form of autism spectrum disorder, according to the most recent estimates from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Experts are struggling to tamp down fears they say are without scientific basis. They point out that symptoms of autism tend to emerge in the second year of life, regardless of vaccine status.

Physicians also worry that parents refusing to vaccinate their children are opening the door to a resurgence of diseases, from polio to whooping cough, that had been virtually wiped out by the country's robust vaccination program.

Outbreaks of measles and pertussis, or whooping cough, and Hib meningitis have been linked to parents refusing or delaying vaccination of their children, experts say.

"We definitely see the consequences of choosing not to vaccinate. That's why we take it so seriously," said Dr. Kelly Moore, medical director of the immunization program with the Tennessee Department of Health.


The vaccine-autism controversy has been brewing for years. This fall, the U.S. Supreme Court will take up a case to determine whether vaccine manufacturers can be sued by parents who allege their children were harmed by vaccines, The Associated Press reported. Frequently these kinds of cases involve autism, according to the AP.

A special federal court ruled Friday that thimerosal is not to blame for autism, the AP reported.

The court concluded the Oregon-based parents who filed the suit had failed to show a connection between the preservative and their son's autism. The ruling came in a special branch of the U.S. Court of Federal Claims established to handle claims of injury from vaccines.

For almost a decade, all recommended routine vaccines in the U.S., except some influenza shots, have been free of thimerosal.

A study largely seen as the launch pad for fears over the vaccine-autism connection -- published in 1998 in the British medical journal Lancet -- was retracted last month for being flawed. The study's author claimed that leakage of the measles disease from the measles-mumps-rubella vaccines, which became standard in the mid-1980s, could cause autism. The MMR vaccine has never contained thimerosal.

The vaccine-autism theory has taken such a deep hold in part because of the human desire to understand, said Dr. Leslie Rubin, pediatric developmental specialist with Team Centers, a private, nonprofit agency in Chattanooga serving people with developmental disabilities.

Even before the MMR vaccine became standard in the mid-'80s, Dr. Rubin said he regularly met with parents searching answers for their child's sudden onset of autism symptoms around 18 months of age, a "classic" pattern in autism.

Parents would say that they had recently moved or had another baby as a possible explanation for their child's condition, he recalled.

"We as human beings need explanations," he said. "You can see how you can link it with something real, something tangible."


Despite the broad medical consensus that no credible scientific evidence has linked vaccines and autism, a significant number of parents are harboring fear and distrust of vaccines.

About 11 percent of parents surveyed in 2009 said they had declined to give their child or children at least one recommended vaccine, according to the study published in the March 1 edition of the journal Pediatrics.

Local doctors say they are encountering parents who are refusing or delaying recommended vaccinations for their children.

Chattanooga pediatrician Dr. Peter Rawlings said he has had to stop seeing some patients whose parents refuse to get them vaccinated because he doesn't feel comfortable being complicit with what he feels could be termed child neglect.

These parents are counting on the immunity of the general population that has been vaccinated to protect their children from these dangerous illnesses, he said.

"That's literally what a lot of these families are banking on, that there's enough herd immunity that they don't have to give it to their child," he said.

But as more parents decide to forgo recommended vaccines that herd immunity breaks down, he said. Immune-compromised children who can't be vaccinated -- such as children with leukemia -- are then at greater risk of contracting a disease such as measles which, especially for them, could be deadly, experts say.

"Science is all over Internet"

Health officials emphasize that a litany of scientific data has found no causal link between autism and vaccines. In 2004, an Institute of Medicine committee released a report with that conclusion, citing five large epidemiological studies -- in the United States, United Kingdom, Denmark and Sweden since 2001 -- that found no association between vaccines containing thimerosal or the MMR vaccine and autism.

But some advocacy groups maintain that public health officials are conspiring to gloss over valid scientific evidence of real links between vaccines and autism, pointing to research compiled by advocacy groups and online publications such as Age of Autism and the Coalition for Safe Minds, which have helped unite a network of parents in an anti-vaccine campaign.

"The science is all over the Internet. It's just you're not getting it through the health department," said Tami Freedman, a board member of the Chattanooga chapter of the Complementary Health Education Organization, a nonprofit focused on natural health care as a means to improve health.

Dr. Moore said part of the reason the fear of vaccines has taken such a hold is the proliferation of information on the Internet that can fuel a parent's search for answers to a highly mysterious condition.

"There is no filter on the Internet. Anyone can post anything," she said. "The concern that I have is that people can make well-informed decisions and you make that by knowing the facts and not just the rumors."


Experts attribute the rise in diagnoses of autism at least in part to a broad expansion of the definition of autism to include individuals who might otherwise have been diagnosed with another condition such as Down syndrome. On the other end of the spectrum, those with Asperger's syndrome, a type of autism spectrum disorder, in the past may have been considered just eccentric.

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    Staff Photo by Angela Lewis/Chattanooga Times Free Press Jeff Ransom plays with his son, Benjamin Ransom, in his business, Ben's Storage. Mr. Ransom says that Benjamin was developing normally until he was 15 months old, and after receiving vaccines, he developed symptoms of autism.

Dr. Rubin said there is also an urgent need for research that explores the effect of environmental toxins that have become pervasive since the Industrial Revolution.

For example, prenatal exposure to phthalates, which can be found in perfumes, make-up and nail polish, has been associated with behavioral and attention problems in children, according to a study published this year in Environmental Health Perspectives.

"Here is where the truth may lie," Dr. Rubin said. "That's where we can all lobby the government to say, 'You know what? There are a lot of toxins causing harm to ourselves, our children, unborn babies, to the future of mankind, and we've got to begin to understand what these toxins can do.' That's where I'm fully into support of these kinds of advocacy groups."

Mr. Ransom's son Ben now istalking and enrolled in mainstream public school classes, but he still requires speech and occupational therapy, his father said. Mr. Ransom said he will never stop believing vaccines changed his child.

"I went into a pediatrician's office, and I held my child down and let them give him a brain injury," Mr. Ransom said.

Dr. Moore said she wants to emphasize to parents that they don't need to feel culpable for their child's autism.

"It is a very difficult situation, and I think what makes me most sad is that the parents believe this is something they did by letting their child be vaccinated. ... There's no reason to feel that kind of guilt because it wasn't something that they did," she said.

about Emily Bregel...

Health care reporter Emily Bregel has worked at the Chattanooga Times Free Press since July 2006. She previously covered banking and wrote for the Life section. Emily, a native of Baltimore, Md., earned a bachelor’s degree in American Studies from Columbia University. She received a first-place award for feature writing from the East Tennessee Society of Professional Journalists’ Golden Press Card Contest for a 2009 article about a boy with a congenital heart defect. She ...

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johnno121 said...

The study in The Lancet was not "flawed". It was outright fraudulent and the results made up. Britain's General Medical Council found the author of the study guilty of grossly unethical behavior with respect to this study. That is why it was retracted. The connection between autism and the vaccination is that the symptoms of autism appear at the same age that the mmr vaccine is given. It is correlation not causation. Thanks to the anti-vaccination movement children are dying from measles and getting whooping cough in the US. Vaccinations are the greatest public health initiative ever conducted and they continue to keep children healthy.

March 15, 2010 at 6:28 a.m.
fightingautism said...

The Lancet study, if referencing Dr. Wakefield, was a good study but has been attacked by those who favor suppression of open, thoughtful science. The connection between autism and vaccination is NOT JUST age/MMR. My own daughter regressed over a two week period after a hepatitis B immunization while still scabbed over with chicken pox. Shew as nine months old and had not even had the MMR yet. Other families report their child receiving DaPT vaccines at 4 or 6 months old, having high fevers and seizures, and forever being damaged and eventually getting autism diagnoses. People are not dying from measles/getting whooping cough from "anti-immunization" movement. There is no data supporting how many of those who get measles/pertussis were/were not immunized. The CDC's own data show the pertussis vaccine as only being 50-85% effective, depending on study. No medication/procedure is 100% safe for 100% population and it's insanity to think the human body, in all its complexities and variants, can handle the same thing for everyone. Heck, 100% of the population cannot even tolerate 100% of foods.

March 15, 2010 at 3:03 p.m.

Good comments and truth fightingautism. My heart goes out to your daughter and to all those who have experienced illness and death due to vaccines over the years. The cost of the public knowing the complete truth and the AMA/Big Pharma industry losing big bucks is too great it appears.

Those who have done objective research and do not necessarily believe everything stated out of the mouths of the medical establishment are far more informed in my opinion. The AMA and CDC are the ones fear-mongering, as has been the case the last 5-10 years or so regarding the flu vaccines. Elderly die receiving a flu or pneumonia vaccine when they have compromised, weak immune systems to begin with. The overuse/abuse of vaccinations on small babies in Western countries is not only suspect, it's the extreme side of stupidity. Brain and physiological studies of developing babies show complex variants as you pointed out and an immune system better suited to receiving the mother's milk rather than a plethora of vaccines. Piling on foreign elements into the newborn body when the immune system is fragile and in a new world, is the height of ignorance and supposition.

It is issues like these, that despite 7 decades of medical professionals and Navy physicians in my family, cause me to shudder at the poor insight/foresight, lack of clarity and vision, and utter stupidity/lack of real knowledge within the Western culture and its Medical professions. We've come a long way in the art of surgical techniques, tools to look into the human body, diagnostics, lab research, etc. At the same time, in all its arrogance and pride, Medicine needs to realize that it is not God and it has a long, long way to go to get to the place of knowing it all.

March 15, 2010 at 3:43 p.m.
chapnalli said...

Jeff has given a comment in this article that has to be paid attention to! We are people who vaccinated their children, watched our children get sick after those vaccinations and then have several symptoms listed on vaccine adverse reaction package inserts (like seizures, fevers, GI distress, etc) and THEN loss of all skills resulting in a regressive diagnosis of autism.

I have 3 children that had reactions to vaccines, the one with the worst reactions regressed fully into autism. Vaccine involvement is not something someone else convinced me of, no one had to. It was definitely a factor in tipping my child over. He is 10 also, and still non verbal as far as conversational ability and cannot be left alone for a minute. Autism is not some mild issue that can be solved by telling me, Jeff or any other parent that has watched their child go through this, that our eyes have deceived us. This diagnosis has serious medical and physical consequences that can result in a lifetime of dependence.

If your child went through what ours did you would not question vaccine involvement either, and you do everything you could to fight for science and medical treatments to understand the "why" so that proper UNDERLYING treatments can be developed. These children deserve nothing less than all we have.

March 15, 2010 at 8:19 p.m.
amdachel said...

Regardless of how bad the autism rate is, no one ever demands answers. No expert is ever concerned about about the numbers getting worse. We're assured that the increase is due in part to the expanded spectrum of autism disorders.

We're falsely told that for a decade vaccines for kids haven't contained mercury, although those of us who study the issue know it's about six years. At the same time they were phasing out mercury from childhood vaccines, they began to recommend the mercury-laced flu shot for pregnant women. (This year with the H1N1 vaccine added, the exposure to unborn child doubled.)

Bregel doesn't mention the fact that the vaccine schedule more than tripled between 1983 and 2008 without a single study on the cumulative effect of so many vaccines so soon on the health of a child.

Anne Dachel Media editor: Age of Autism

March 15, 2010 at 10:35 p.m.
amdachel said...

All the science is settled when it comes to vaccines and autism. I never find anyone however who's actually looked at who did the studies.
Autism advocate Julie Obradovic researched the fourteen studies that are used to prove safety. Julie wrote, "Having read all of the studies several times, I can assure you they have not [disproved a link.] And regardless of what side of the debate you fall, that fact is indisputable. Studying 1 [vaccine] ingredient of dozens and 1 injection [MMR] (given sometimes twice) out of a possible 35 before age 5 is certainly inadequate."

These studies are riddled with flaws and hopelessly tied to the industry that produces the products in question or they're done by the agency with everything at stake in showing vaccines are safe, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. They will never settle the controversy. In Julie's words, "Each and every study was conducted and/or funded by someone who patents, manufacturers, promotes, endorses, profits from and/or defends in a court of law vaccines."

Anne Dachel Media editor: Age of Autism

March 15, 2010 at 10:36 p.m.
amdachel said...

Bregel doesn't tell us about experts who disagree with her doctors. People like Dr. Peter Fletcher, former Chief Scientific Officer in the UK. In the Daily Mail in Britain Fletcher said he believes in the connection between the MMR vaccine and autism and bowel disease in children, 'It is the steady accumulation of evidence, from a number of respected universities, teaching hospitals and laboratories around the world, that matters here. There's far too much to ignore. Yet government health authorities are, it seems, more than happy to do so.'

Bregel doesn't mention Dr. Bernadine Healy, former head of the National Institutes of Health. On CBS News in Jul 2008, Healy stated that the studies haven't been done that would disprove a link between vaccines and autism. Two years later, they still haven't been done.

Anne Dachel Media editor: Age of Autism

March 15, 2010 at 10:37 p.m.
amdachel said...

We can only expect that the media and health officials will continue to pretend that the epidemic number of autistic children everywhere is normal and acceptable. None of the doctors cited can explain why we're always talking about children when the subject of autism comes up. No one has ever been able to show us an adult population with autism at rates even remotely close to what we see in our children. And I'm not talking about adults with high functioning autism/Asperger's. I want to see adults with the symptoms of full-blown autism.

No one can imagine what it'll be like in this country in a few short years as this affected population of children reaches adulthood. The cost of lifetime care will be at least $3.2 milllion EACH according to a conservative Harvard Study from four years ago. The prospects for the future when hundreds of thousands of autistic adults are dependent on the welfare system for their support and care is a looming tsunami. This is something that all the experts telling parents they're wrong neatly ignore.

Anne Dachel Media editor: Age of Autism

March 15, 2010 at 10:38 p.m.
ccdaddy said...

The IOM found the Thimerosal Autism causation plausable in 2001 by 2004 they the CDC was ordering them not to look at the biological evidence.

Next step after plausable is causation and the CDC knew it, that is why they ordered them not to find causation, it was in thier contract.

read this; emails from the FOIA

Dr. McCormick, for example, in speaking of the CDC, “noted that the
“wants us to declare, well, these things are pretty safe on a
basis.” (See Exhibit 1 at page 33).
It is later stated that what Walt wants Walt generally gets”
she was speaking of Walter A. Orenstein, M.D.. Director, Emory Vaccine Policy and. Director of the vaccine commission for
the CDC.

Notice she said on a population basis reason the CDC has always maintained we cannot rule out the possibility this is happening to
a subset group.

I don’t believe ordering someone to not find causation,qualifies for good sound quality robust science. Still the question must be in your mind did they do what they were ordered to do, ( you be the judge )

Also, from the minutes of the IOM.

“We’ve got a dragon by the tail here,” states a committee member in the
transcript. “At the end of the line, what we know is - and I agree -
the more negative that presentation [the report] is, the less likely
are to use vaccination, immunization, and we know what the results of
will be. We are kind of caught in a trap. How we work our way out of
trap, I think, is the charge.” Think about this if you find nothing with a good conscience then how on earth are you caught in a trap?

Their findings was that there was no causation, and don’t look at vaccines again put your money were you will get more bang for your buck. But that is not what is reflected in the minutes.

March 16, 2010 at 1:10 a.m.
ccdaddy said...

Another CDC e-mail obtained via FOIA:
"From: Verstraeten, Thomas
"Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 4:40 PM
"To: 'Robert Davis'
"Cc: Destefano, Frank
"Subject: It just won't go away...
"I added another exposure variable (addcat) in one list that looks at the increase of mercury each month for the first three months, divided by the average bodyweight in the first, second and third month and takes the maximum value of this. This does not show much, to which I would conclude that, except for epilepsy, all the harm is done in the first month."

March 16, 2010 at 1:11 a.m.
ccdaddy said...

CDC email ; This was not rocket science this was 9th grade math how could this have happened.

He was referring to the fact the agencys could not do simple math to add up the comulative doses adding up to Mercury poisoning and neurlogical damage.
200 ppb EPA liquid hazardous waste 7 vaccines 32,500 ppb at one setting on one day!

Because it is on the MSDS of Thimerosal that it is accumlative in the body
and it targets the organs of the body, the brain and the lining around the brain.

Aluminum is in the children's vaccines as a catalyst

Also never mix it with Aluminum that is under reactivity data of the MSDS
of Thimerosal You might ask why? Answer Because the two react violently
together when mixed. the mercury causes the Aluminum to oxidize with the production of heat.

March 16, 2010 at 1:20 a.m.
ccdaddy said...

When we got hit at 911 Congressman Dick army put in the homeland security bill protection for the damage done by Thimerosal for Eli Lilly

Several Congressmen said it was not voted on and was not fair and removed it.

The president tried to seal the documents to the VSD FOREVER

Like I said where is the logic in sealing the proof that the children have not been harmed? That is your proof that vaccines are safe
That does not compute!

President G W Bush backed off only when Senator Leahy wrote to the president, and said why are you sealing the VSD for one and why are you sealing them forever. It's as though you first robbed the bank and are trying to hide the proof of the damage done. Now I want any communications between you and your staff and then he was referring to the pharma Co's

The President had three people working for Eli Lilly at the white house,
His dad Bush Sr. was on the board of Dir. in the 70's saving the family fortune by what you know; seems I recall Martha Stewart went to jaiil
for the same no less.Martha did not take a oath to protect the public.
GW did.

They did not stop there, the Pharma inducted Senator Frist and payed him a lot of money. Then Senate bill 3 protecting America from terrorism 2003
was born, It gave every fallen solders family 100,000 dollars but the devil is in the details in the back of the bill learked the same protection for thimerosal damage in the American children.

When Congressman Burton was passing Congressman Army in the hall
he said why did you do it Dick! he said NO! the whitehouse told him
to do it. It seems that Pharma and the CDC was desperate to get protection, for the damage done!

Total truth!

March 16, 2010 at 1:22 a.m.
ccdaddy said...

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer

Though luckily, not all doctor's are lemmings to the CDC and Pharmaceutical companies:

"The only safe vaccine is a vaccine that is never used."
--Dr. James A. Shannon National Institutes of Health

The evidence for indicting immunisations for SIDS is circumstantial, but compelling. However, the keepers of the keys to medical-research funds are not interested in searching this very important lead to the cause of an ongoing, and possibly preventable, tragedy. Anything that implies that immunisations are not the greatest medical advance in the history of public health is ignored or ridiculed. Can you imagine the economic and political import of discovering that immunisations are killing thousands of babies?" Dr William C. Douglass, M.D. (Honored twice as America's 'Doctor of the Year')

"Only after realising that routine immunisations were dangerous did I achieve a substantial drop in infant death rates. The worst vaccine of all is the whooping cough vaccine... it is responsible for a lot of deaths and for a lot of infants suffering irreversible brain damage. In susceptible infants, it knocks their immune systems about, leading to irreparable brain damage, or severe attacks or even deaths from diseases like pneumonia or gastro-enteritis and so on". Dr Kalokerinos, M.D.

"Official data shows that large scale vaccination has failed to obtain any significant improvement of the diseases against which they were supposed to provide protection" Dr Sabin, developer of Polio vaccine.

"All vaccination has the effect of directing the three values of he blood into or toward the zone characteristics of cancer and leukemia...Vaccines do predispose to cancer and leukemia." Professor L. Vincent - founder of Bioelectronics


March 16, 2010 at 1:26 a.m.
ccdaddy said...

Continued from last post

"There has been a frightening increase in cases of autism that has not been explained. There are a number of anecdotal reports from parents that symptoms of autism have appeared close to the time of the (MMR) vaccine." Jane Orient, M.D., executive director of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons and clinical lecturer in medicine at the University of Arizona College of Medicine, and a professor of clinical medicine at the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine.

"If you want the truth on vaccination you must go to those who are not making anything out of it. If doctors shot at the moon every time it was full as a preventive of measles and got a shilling for it, they would bring statistics to prove it was a most efficient practice, and that the population would be decimated if it were stopped."---Dr Allinson

"The greatest threat of childhood diseases lies in the dangerous and ineffectual efforts made to prevent them through mass immunisation.....There is no convincing scientific evidence that mass inoculations can be credited with eliminating any childhood disease."
Dr Robert Mendelsohn, M.D.

"I think that no person would permit anybody to get close to them with an inoculation if they would really know how they are made, what they carry, what has been lied to them about and what the real percent of danger is of contracting such a disease which is minimal."
--Dr Eva Snead

"There is a great deal of evidence to prove that immunisation of children does more harm than good."
Dr. J. Anthony Morris (formerly Chief Vaccine Control Officer at the US Federal Drug Admin.)

"I was working in one of the oldest lung illness treatment centres in Germany, and just by chance, I looked at the files of those people who had fallen ill during the first German epidemic of smallpox, in 1947...We had always been told that the smallpox vaccination would protect against smallpox. And now I could verify, thanks to the files and papers, that all of those who had fallen ill had been vaccinated. This was very upsetting for me."
Dr Buchwald, M.D.

"No batch of vaccine can be proved safe before it is given to children." Surgeon General of the United States Leonard Scheele, addressing an AMA convention in 1955

"My honest opinion is that vaccination is the cause of more disease and suffering than anything I could name.
Dr. Harry R. Baybee

March 16, 2010 at 1:27 a.m.
ccdaddy said...

So it’s not hard to see how the NIEHS came to their conclusion that the Flagship studies were en effect useless. If that doe’s not convince you they were dishonest maybe this will.

The CDC ordered the IOM not to find causation here is the proof.

When Byron child asked CDC spokesperson Curtis Allen for a copy of the
contract that would detail the agreement between the IOM and the CDC,

Allen Spokesperson for the CDC
stated that the contract would be available only in a heavily
“redacted” or
blacked-out format.

Notice the IOM is not denying the leaked minutes “just saying, no comment!”

You see we should be worried about someone thinking the IOM report was
being manipulated enough, to LEAK out the minutes.

The IOM stated “no comment” to Byron child about the leaked transcript
or its use in the pending civil court case.

Truth is not relevant to these people! Even though it’s written out side (engraved on National Academy of Sciences building in Washington, D.C., location of NIH & IOM)

(These words)

“The right to search for truth implies also a duty; one must not conceal any part of what one has recognized to be true.” quote from Albert Einstein,

Readers they truly have no science left!

March 16, 2010 at 1:33 a.m.
ccdaddy said...

More on Poul Thorson and the CDC scandel

Where is poul today? this man is on the Lam for suspected forgery and fraud, taking 2 million in CDC research $$

And the CDC puts him in charge of one of the biggest new studies on Autism the DSM-5 Spreading more fraud, CDC Hey! the jigg is up

It seems he is here in the US. working a little more fraud. Notice he is no longer in Atlanta. He is at the Drexel University Philadelphia. He signed a contract with the American Psychiatric association to be a author of the DSM-5 the latest version of the diagnosis and statistical manual-5. He is leading the neuro- developmental work group.

since this was written Drexel dropped him from their web-site.

No place to hide poul, try the CDC but don't drink or eat anything
there. And what ever you do don't go on any midnight rides, you
might not return.

This is rich, this guy is on the Lam for Fraud and stealing millions in Demark. And the CDC puts him in charge of a new study! And we wonder why healh insurance cost as much as a mortgage on a house per month. How do we get a handle on runaway health care?
Here is a hint!
Take care of the (CORRUPTION IN THE CDC is a good place to start)

(The only thing he should be leading, is a chain gang from prison)

I have an idea you get this guy to turn on the corrupt CDC Officials.

Then and only then will we get real reaserch to help our children, that will in turn

manafest into a healthier generations to come.

March 16, 2010 at 1:37 a.m.
ccdaddy said...

Weeks before the IOM meeting this email was sent; I have searched frantically and cannot find anything, we are going to have to go else where and get us a study. She chose Denmark the person she contacted was poul thorson he is considered a go to person if you want a study that is guaranteed to prove your point. They call him a stein bagger
he is known for that. The person from the CDC said that we are only interested in what exonerates the CDC and thimerosal. What about truth?
(The CDC thinks truth is over rated) The CDC is charged with protecting our children not self protectionism.

Stein Bagger type (a Danish financial fraud)

Aarhus Stiftstidende has spoken to several sources, who say that the scientist, who has a PhD, is at the moment is on the move in USA. They describe him as a Stein Bagger type (a Danish financial fraud) who is eminently clever at raising money from funds.“He can open the doors to the great money tanks. But all projects all the time had to grow bigger and bigger. He succeeded in raising a huge amount of dollars. Rules however was something that existed for the sake of others – not for him,” it has been said, sounding characteristic.

The lead author of a key study used by EU and USA health bodies as evidence mercury in vaccines does not cause autism has vanished after it emerged that he fraudulently claimed 10 million crowns in funds from his university in Denmark.

According to a statement by the CDC, the researcher is Dr Poul Thorsen, who was also employed by Emory University, Atlanta, without the knowlege of his university, according to the Danish media.

Police, who were called in to investigate by the university after they found a 10-million crown hole in their budget, believe the researcher is in the USA, living and working in Atlanta.

The scientist has worked on a multi-phase research project on the cause of autism that has been received about 80 million crowns in funding from the CDC, headquartered in Atlanta, since 2002.

Poul Thorsen along with Keersten Madsen Meldgaard was the author of a study published in 2002 that used data from Danish children to show that there was no link between mercury in vaccines and autism.

The data in the study called Population-Based Study of Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccination and Autism and published in the New England Journal of Medicine appears to show that autism rates went up after mercury was removed from vaccines, and was used in many subsequent studies justifying the use of mercury.

However, the study has come under criticism for evidence that data has been manipulated to bolster the pro vaccine cause.

March 16, 2010 at 1:42 a.m.
ccdaddy said...

All of you Thimerosal lovers explain this; The CDC said the rate of autism increased in Denmark when Thimerosal was removed. This email says the the opposite was the truth. In my next post you will understand why this
suspected fraud was perpertrated buy the CDC and Poul Thorson on the people of the US.

email received through the Freedom of information act ( FOIA ) The email
was from Denmark to the CDC. It appears she was out of the fraud loop.

( But the incidence and prevalence are still decreasing in 2001 )

Here is a little more on the Denmark lie, from a CDC email received from the FOIA act. CDC/Denmark e-mails like this: are the proof the CDC is lieing.

“Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:33 AM
“Dear Poul, Kreesten and Diane Schendel
“Attached I send you the short and long manuscript about Thimerosal and autism in Denmark. [sentences redacted]
“I need to tell you that the figures in the manuscript do not include the latest data from 2001. I only have these figures as a paper version and they are at work [words redacted]. But the incidence and prevalence are still decreasing in 2001. [sentence redacted]
“I look forward to hear from you again.
“Best regards”

March 16, 2010 at 1:47 a.m.
ccdaddy said...

My letter to Senator Grassley

Senator Grassley your CDC AAP FDA and NIH are behaving like thugs from organized crime. And poisoning our children. Question Senator, With corruption like this, how can you ever get control of run away health care costing as much as a mortgage on a house every month? How did we get here? Hep-b at birth 12.5 micrograms of mercury at birth 12.5 micrograms of mercury up shot in a child's brain at birth.
Children playing catch up CDC style with 9 vaccines 7 of which contained the mercury for a grand total of 32,500 ppb of mercury on one day at one setting. That may not mean much to most here till you learn the amount
the EPA considers is liquid hazardous wate 200 ppb.

Senator, the CDC has maintained that Denmark removed Thimerosal and the rates of Autism went up. This is absolute proof they were lieing to the public. And you Senator!

Here is a little more on the Denmark lie, from a CDC email received from the FOIA act. CDC/Denmark e-mails like this: are the proof the CDC is lieing.

“Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 5:33 AM
“Dear Poul, Kreesten and Diane Schendel
“Attached I send you the short and long manuscript about Thimerosal and autism in Denmark. [sentences redacted]
“I need to tell you that the figures in the manuscript do not include the latest data from 2001. I only have these figures as a paper version and they are at work [words redacted]. But the incidence and prevalence are still decreasing in 2001. [sentence redacted]
“I look forward to hear from you again.
“Best regards”

Senator Grassley, why does the CDC have the right to black out or redact anything? I recall the sunshine law states, that the CDC is not supposed to do anything.That is not above board and in the public eye, with complete transparently.

It is impossible for the rate to go up in Denmark, when this email plainly says it was going down after the removal of the product Thimerosal from the Vaccines.

Senator what sets this apart from other Terrorism?

Thank you Senator


March 16, 2010 at 1:52 a.m.
ccdaddy said...

They tried the the very same thing on the IOM Pay more attention to the big populace studies and dont give the Biological studies equal weight

Denmark - Fraud

VSD US. studies The CDC Dir. words not mine " any further use of the VSD looking at autism and vaccines would be misleading"

The CDC Dir. response to the allegations that the Big population based studies were en effect useless. CDC concurs the Dir wrote to a report from the powerful house appropriations committee.

She did say this though " If you give us more time we will do good quality studies "

For 6 years the Dir. of the CDC had maintained the VSD large populace studies were of good quality and well design and very robust.

Now she is saying that they were misleading. just before she took that revolving door to Big pharma. She now works for MERCK officially that

The IOM was ordered to put all of it's confidence in the big populace studies and ignore the Biological. If the Biological evidence was bad the CDC would have not had any problem for the IOM to consider the

We have one more reason to consider the VSD large populace studies
useless the president tried to seal the documents to the VSD FOREVER

where is the logic in sealing the proof that the children have not been harmed?

President G W Bush backed off only when Senator Leahy wrote to the president, and said why are you sealing the VSD for one and why are you sealing them forever. It's as though you first robbed the bank and are trying to hide the proof of the damage done. Now I want any communications between you and your staff and then he was referring to the pharma Co's

So now comes the BIGGIE from the head of the panel of the NEIHS
she said;

That leaves the CDC with very little to say that vaccines and Autism
are not connected in any way.

So the court ruled on nothing because the CDC had nothing left

March 16, 2010 at 1:59 a.m.
ccdaddy said...

For all who take the FLU Vacc. remember this from now on, all flu vaccines are on the Pandemic list and there will be no compensation through the NVICP by order of HHS Sebelius Pandemic Influenza Vaccines Amendment

In other words, if you get hurt live on the streets. damit!

"Therefore, pursuant to section 319F-3(b) of the Act, I have
determined there is a credible risk that the spread of pandemic
influenza A viruses and those with pandemic potential and resulting
disease does or could constitute a public health emergency.'

...and extends
through February 28, 2012.

Section 319F-3(a)(4) (A) confers immunity to manufacturers and
distributors of the Covered Countermeasure, regardless of the defined

...and amended on September 28, 2009 to
provide targeted liability protections for pandemic countermeasures to
enhance distribution

100226 Sec HHS Sebelius Pandemic Influenza Vaccines Amendment

March 16, 2010 at 2:04 a.m.
ccdaddy said...

It does appear that HHS Sebelius is enhancing her resume for her move to big pharma later, you know the revolving Door in to the Industry.

Where we all get rich, all who enter. the only requirement is we take your conscience and your soul. for services rendered

March 16, 2010 at 2:08 a.m.
ccdaddy said...

Dumping toxins on the Third World

In the aftermath of the most recent unnecessary Pandemic declaration of a global H1N1 swine flu emergency, industrial countries were left sitting on hundreds of millions of doses of untested vaccines. They decided to get rid of the embarrassing leftover drugs by handing them over to the WHO which in turn plans to dump them for free on select poor countries. France has given 91 million of the 94 million doses the Sarkozy government bought from the pharma giants; Britain gave 55 million of its 60 million doses. The story for Germany and Norway is similar.5

As Dr. Thomas Jefferson, an epidemiologist with the Cochrane Research Center in Rome noted, “Why do they give the vaccines to the developing countries at all? The pandemic has been called off in most parts of the world. The greatest threat in poor countries right now is heart and circulatory diseases while the virus figures at the bottom of the list. What is the medical reason for donating 180 million doses?”6 As well, flu is a minor problem in countries with abundant sunshine, and it turned out that the feared H1N1 Pandemic “new great plague” was the mildest flu on record.

Reason they don't want to have to pay to have them burned as liquid hazardous waste is required it cost money to despose of them.

March 16, 2010 at 2:10 a.m.
ccdaddy said...

Brian Deer connections with Atlanta? Property?

Yes, and it is indeed curious that Deer’s website has apparently been registered at 777 Vedado Way, NE Atlanta 30308, in the neighbourhood of the Centers for Disease Control since 1 June 2000 ( http://whois. domaintools. com/frwikipedia/ briandeer. com , http://www.aboutus. org/BrianDeer. com ). It has remained there despite the property changing hands according to web records on 21 June 2004 for $460,000, which is approximately 3 times its market value ( com/property- detail/777- Vedado-Way- NE_Atlanta_ GA_30308_ e5e74403? source=web ).

March 16, 2010 at 2:13 a.m.
ccdaddy said...

Is the CDC laundering money to Brain Deer? why does he have a property in the vicinity of the CDC? seems the fraudulent plot thickens on the person that filed charges against the hero Dr. Wakefield. You see the reporter Deer knew the out come of the Thimerosal cases in federal vaccine court,
before the people of the US. In his in box to his surprise was an email from the CDC wanting anything on his charges against Dr. Wakefield. Seems it is time the CDC release a little Tax money to him for his pay out.

These people are worse than organised crime In-fact you could call them unorganized crime

It seems we would be a richer nation if we could do away with CDC paying off everybody that they commit fraud with and stop them from buying predetermined studies.

March 16, 2010 at 2:18 a.m.
ccdaddy said...

Brian Deer Blunders in British Medical Journal

By John Stone

A blunder by Sunday Times journalist Brian Deer has left him exposed in the columns of British Medical Journal on-line, leaving open the question of how he could have legally obtained information on the background to cases in the disputed Lancet study including the identities of the patients and their families (HERE).

The man is and has all ways been a well paid CDC Pharma plant.

March 16, 2010 at 2:21 a.m.
ccdaddy said...

How do you all feel about you guys being next, if you end up with a debilitating vaccine reaction to the flu vaccine you have no recourse None! do you think pharma planed it this way? . All flu vaccines are now covered in the homeland security under pandemic. Good luck yall

March 16, 2010 at 2:26 a.m.
ccdaddy said...

This is all they heard that day; So we are in a bad position from the standpoint of defending any lawsuits if they were initiated and I am concerned."

This is what tells you they were in big trouble with the current science of that day.

you could readily find a junk scientist who would support the claim with "a reasonable degree of certainty". But you will not find a scientist with any integrity who would say the reverse with the data that is available. And that is true

That used to be true but it seems not to be true any more
they seem to be finding many people willing to sell their
souls that have no integrity.

The simpson wood meeting, everything you heard and seen is to be considered embargoed information. Dr.Bernier CDC

Before this meeting the AAP said mercury in all of it's forms is toxic where for by we must remove it as soon as possible and we need to find the best chelating agent and get with it because the MSDS says this is accumulative in the body.

Then this statement at the simpsonwood meeting "

Dr. Brent: Page 229: "The medical legal findings in this study, causal or not, are horrendous and therefore, it is important that the suggested epidemiological, pharmacokinetic, and animal studies be performed. If an allegation was made that a child's neurobehavioral findings were caused by Thimerosal containing vaccines, you could readily find a junk scientist who would support the claim with "a reasonable degree of certainty". But you will not find a scientist with any integrity who would say the reverse with the data that is available. And that is true. So we are in a bad position from the standpoint of defending any lawsuits if they were initiated and I am concerned."

After hearing this the AAP soon changed it's mind, and the mercury that poisoned our children was now good for our children new studies say. And if you are a AAP pediatrician
fighting a no mercury ban bill in your state, they have sent letters saying they would help them fight to keep it in vaccines

March 16, 2010 at 2:30 a.m.
robinnemeth said...

Lots of the SOS. What's the most egregious? I think maybe this:

'For almost a decade, all recommended routine vaccines in the U.S., except some influenza shots, have been free of thimerosal.'

Why not tell parents that 'some' influenza shots means 'the vast majority? (over ninety four percent according to a CNN report still have the same toxic level of thimerosal)

Perhaps then they'd reconsider when their pediatrician routinely advises pregnant women to get flu shots for themselves and their infants and their children. (pediatricians did not routinely do this when my own children were babies, a decade and a half ago.)

My government is complicit in genocide. The media seems quite intent on being complicit in that genocide.

March 16, 2010 at 7:43 a.m.

Whew, we have an uphill battle folks on many fronts. ccdaddy, I'm so sorry for all the trials you and your family have been through. Gathering and investigating all that information had to be devastating for you as well.

Solomon in Ecclesiastes stated thousands of years ago, that when he searched the world for knowledge, he found at the end of his search that it all made him very weary. It's better to be informed than not, but oh what a travail it all is! All I know is that I believe in the Lord of Justice and one day soon, there will be judgement done on the evil worldwide. This issue certainly qualifies as evil done to the innocents.

I would like to add that not only have the American people been deceived for many decades, in many different ways, yet folks worldwide have had our 'knowledge' thrust upon them too. Some of it was well-intentioned, much was not. ccdaddy mentioned what happened in Bush's WH. Well, we have Dr. Holdren, appointed by the Obama Admin. whose writings include a novel idea of placing birth control drugs in the national water supplies to effect population control. In fact, there have been many of these self-named Progressives in our Gov't for over 100 years. Many believe in Eugenics (Hitlerian), abortion of minority groups (Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood), population control, etc. Many more have now been appointed to the Obama Admin. Remember just last year, his WH came out with the statement that the flu vaccine should be mandatory. There was a huge public outcry and they backed off. For now.

The plain truth is that over the decades, our freedoms and the freedoms of parents to be parents and make decisions for their children has been slowly eroding away. We have far less freedoms today than ever before. Decades of children now have been indoctrinated to believe our Gov't knows best and will be able to control the 'bad' things in life that may happen to them. The Fed Gov't is now enormous and the debt has tripled in size in the last 2 years alone. This should tell us something of their plans for all of us-a weakened, dumbed down, voiceless population.

My future and my hope has never been in human governments, esp. since I know the history of them and the evil they do. My only suggestion for those who do not know the Lord and his plans for a better future for us, is to inform yourselves, learn to be more self-reliant, keep your children close (and educate them well in the realities of life, that means good and evil). We will pray for you all and for those few good men and women in our Gov'ts who fight an uphill battle everyday to right the wrongs done to this nation.

March 16, 2010 at 10:02 a.m.
amdachel said...

A parents asked me to me post this:

I would like to know specifically which "experts" say the rise in autism is partly accounted for by the inclusion of other conditions such as Down syndrome. I have not seen any study that shows down syndrome children with autism are causing the rise in the autism incidence so I want to know what data was used by these "experts" to justify their statement.

March 16, 2010 at 10:19 p.m.
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