published Wednesday, November 10th, 2010

The Bush Memoir

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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woody said...

The 'toon' is self-explanatory. What else needs to be said??

Have a great day, Woody

November 10, 2010 at 6:10 a.m.
alprova said...

Ouch!!!, Clay, Ouch!!!

Prepare for the explosion.

November 10, 2010 at 6:40 a.m.
Rivieravol said...

Wonder if Obama could make it through Jet Fighter Pilot training like Bush did.

Remember no teleprompters in the cockpit.

November 10, 2010 at 7:19 a.m.
moon4kat said...

I have no doubt Obama would have aced jet fighter pilot training. On the other hand, it's unlikely Bush could pass a class in Constitutional Law.

November 10, 2010 at 7:23 a.m.
EaTn said...

This is a preview of the second of a series of books, fast forwarded. With the Oprah interview getting a thumbs down from that reading club, being snubbed by the new extreme right-wingers as being too liberal and tons of unsold books piled-up in books stores, the President decides to honestly open-up in the second book in hopes of recouping his prior losses with a home run to the left of center field.

November 10, 2010 at 7:30 a.m.
najones75 said...

Seems to me moon4kat that Obama needs a refresher course in Constitutional Law.

Dems get their @ss kicked in the elections, and all they have is "Obama is smarter than W". You're completely out of touch, and the majority's disgust for your elitest attitude and unpopular policies will be proven again in 2012.

But, you keep on doing, what you're doing. God love ya and good day

November 10, 2010 at 7:45 a.m.
MountainJoe said...

I don't know how good a pilot Bush is, but neither he nor Obama would recognize the Constitution if it jumped up and bit them.

November 10, 2010 at 7:56 a.m.
Rivieravol said...

Doubt someone who thinks we have 57 states could pass a Constitutional Law class.

November 10, 2010 at 7:57 a.m.
OllieH said...

I watched the Matt Lauer interview with George W. Bush the other night and came away with a whole new appreciation of the president.

The current president, that is.

November 10, 2010 at 8:27 a.m.
toonfan said...

I'd almost forgotten what a complete buffoon President Bush was. I guess it's the mind's way of blocking out extreme trauma. But like regression therapy, the release of this book has only served to dredge up some painful and embarrassing memories.

November 10, 2010 at 8:40 a.m.
hambone said...

$.02 Just had to !

November 10, 2010 at 8:49 a.m.
Musicman375 said...

I'm sure Bush thinks a lot of people are smart.

Clay, is this your analysis of the book or have you even read it yet? Is the book even out yet?

November 10, 2010 at 9:01 a.m.
moonpie said...

I, for one, don't find it useful to underestimate others, including President Bush. I have fundamental disagreements with him, but I recognize different kinds of intelligence.

Andrew's reference to The Bell Curve yesterday was an example of this. According to that much maligned book, IQ does not predict success in life, rather success in school.

I have watched with humor when barely educated businessmen make incredibly shrewd and eithical decisions while highly educated professionals lament that their education has not delivered the economic prosperity that they had hoped for.

There are many kinds of intelligence. I, for one, will go after someone for their policy, but not their intelligence. I don't think it serves a useful purpose.

A few years ago, a study was done asking people to rank the intelligence of Bush versus Kerry. Study participants watched video clips of verbal foilbles uttered by each candidate. Conservaties rated Kerry's foibles harshly and were relatively unphased by Bush's. The inverse was true for Liberals. Bottom line, not only is "Stupid is as Stupid Does", but apparently sometimes, "Stupid is what we choose to see."

Therefore, I'm laying off the former president on this one.

November 10, 2010 at 9:28 a.m.
Dumbledore403 said...

Andrew-I think you need to be reminded of a passage of Scripture, because I am seeing a lot of this in the Conservative response.And in your honor I have used the NRSV. James 2 14 What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him? 15 Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to him, "Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed," but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead. 18 But someone will say, "You have faith; I have deeds." Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do. I would agree that the churches need to have a bigger part of this but I am not seeing that happening.

November 10, 2010 at 9:53 a.m.
easyeintn said...

Only Bush would be dumb enough to think Obama is so smart. That book must have large font and a lot of pictures. My list of why Obama is so smart could fit on less than half a page.

November 10, 2010 at 10:04 a.m.
nurseforjustice said...

I won't comment on the toon except to say that I believe that is down right mean. Even if I felt that way about Obama I would have enough respect for him not to say that.

But I do have a funny joke for the day.

Two philosophers were sitting at a restaurant, discussing whether or not there was a difference between misfortune and disaster. "There is most certainly a difference," said one. "If the cook suddenly died and we couldn't have our dinner that would be a misfortune, but certainly not a disaster. On the other hand, if a cruise ship carrying the Congress was to sink in the middle of the ocean, that would be a disaster, but by no stretch of the imagination would it be a misfortune."

Hope everyone has a nice day.

November 10, 2010 at 10:30 a.m.
Salsa said...

Seeming smart is one thing. Actually being smart is another. Neither Bush nor Obama qualify.

November 10, 2010 at 10:43 a.m.
Clara said...

I've not read ANY of the White House Memoirs, from Pres. Roosevelt onward, but I'm strongly thinking of reading Pres. Carter's, suddendly on display at our local library...after I read 3 other books that have priority return.

Have a nice day. I'm busy!

November 10, 2010 at 10:48 a.m.
JimD said...

Really? Is sub-sophomoric humor the best you can offer?

November 10, 2010 at 11:38 a.m.
SavartiTN said...

Sad but true, Clay. Sad but true.

November 10, 2010 at 11:53 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

clay really (under-did?) himself today, two days, two cartoons about the Bush memoirs. It must really suck to have to work within such a small intellectual box.

I loved the joke from nurseforjustice and the comment from moonpie. Thanks to you two for making the visit worth while.

Username: moonpie | On: November 10, 2010 at 9:28 a.m. Username: nurseforjustice | On: November 10, 2010 at 10:30 a.m.

November 10, 2010 at 11:58 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

I'm in a change of pace mood today. I just read through the comments and a neutral observer would be astonished at how stupid most of us are being.

Why the vitriol? Why the partisan bickering that sounds more like personal affronts than healthy debate?

We’re only hurting ourselves and America is paying the price. A divided house cannot stand as Lincoln succinctly observed.

Republicans and Democrats both claim to be acting on behalf of the American people but we all know that’s a crock. It's all about power.

Did anyone read Mitch Albom’s interview with retiring Representative Bart Stupak? Although he have easily won his last election, the nine- term Congressman decided to pack it in.

“Every boundary of decency has been crossed,” he said. “The more personal you make the attack, the more money you can make to defeat your opponent…As much as people say they don’t like negative campaigning it moves the numbers.”

I’m as guilty as anyone of posting partisan comments, but I’m beginning to wonder just what we are all trying to accomplish?

Isn’t there anyway for us to consider what’s in the best interest of our Country? If the terrorists were trying to destroy America from within they must be stunned by their progress.

November 10, 2010 at 12:28 p.m.
woody said...

Blackwater48..I will log back on long enough to say you may have the "Post of the Day" today. However, I feel I must also warn you against posting too much in the 'common sense' vein since I have discovered there are some here who will fight "tooth and nail" against it.

TTFN, Woody

November 10, 2010 at 12:48 p.m.
EaTn said...

blackwater48 wrote: "If the terrorists were trying to destroy America from within they must be stunned by their progress."

I have pondered this idea in my mind over the past few years and find it is mostly true. We allowed a group of twenty religious idiots to slip past airport security, take down two major NY structures and kill hundreds of innocent civilians. This 9/11 incident was a terrorist act that should have been dealt with in kind, eg. mop them up in their dens in places like Afghanistan. Our reactions on things like invading Iraq, spending billions on non-related security issues, tortures, and stomping on our personal freedoms have brought us to the economic and partisan snake pit that we currently occupy.

The enemy may have lit the fire but our leaders and voters kept pouring on the fuel.

November 10, 2010 at 1:02 p.m.

Geroge W.Bush was more of a business man then a president who ran the White House for 8 years. I am gald that we as a nation willl not have to see the likes of that man in office ever again.

November 10, 2010 at 2:24 p.m.

Republicans and Democrats both claim to be acting on behalf of the American people but we all know that’s a crock. It's all about power. Username: blackwater48 | On: November 10, 2010 at 12:28 p.m.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Both party's act on behalf of there personal agenda's during each given election cycle.

November 10, 2010 at 2:28 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

I understand why liberals are incensed by the book. Bush flip-flopped on his reason for going to war with Iraq. First it was WMD. When none were found he changed the reason to wanting to establish a democratic ally in the Middle East. Then he said Saddam was gaming the U.N. food for oil program.

Now we're back to WMD again. I get it.

If I were in a partisan mood today I'd say today's cartoon was out of line. Clay should know better than to make fun of the feeble minded. See? Easy.

I understand why liberals are disappointed with Obama. If he really wanted to reform the health care system he would have pushed for Medicare for everyone. Not free medical insurance, but a chance to get more people insured. The medical bills for the uninsured are paid for by the rest of us. Heck, polls at the time showed half the Republicans and most of the Democrats were in favor of single payer. He could have just made it available to anyone who didn't want to carry their own private insurance. He was going to get clobbered in the mid-terms for taking on the multi-million dollar health care industry anyway. Taking single payer off the table before negotiations really began was weak and didn't ensure Republican support. And I think it cost him Democratic support on election day.

Healthy debate is a right we all should cherish.

Calling Bush a buffoon or Obama a socialist doesn't advance the ball down the field.

But I've found that even when I've made comments that were, to the best of my ability, even handed and factually accurate, I was still mocked and called a liar. I found some of the comments down right hilarious because I discuss politics with my conservative pals all the time and I know your arguments. I also know how to push the right buttons.

Okay, I'm done. Back to the poisonous rancor and pointless rage!

November 10, 2010 at 3:10 p.m.
Musicman375 said...

"Heck, polls at the time showed half the Republicans and most of the Democrats were in favor of single payer."

Seriously? I missed that one. Can you provide that poll info for me please?

November 10, 2010 at 5:18 p.m.
sd said...

Weak sauce, Clay. I still luv u tho.

Bush has a bachelor's from Yale and an MBA from Harvard. He's not stupid. He is a good businessman, though not suited for governance (and obviously not suited to deal with 9/11, but few of our elected officials were). I'm not giving him a pass BTW. Obama isn't stupid either, and it's ridiculous when people try to argue that he is.

I'm gonna read the book eventually, whenever I reach my turn in the library queue. Love him or hate him, I think he'll end up being much more historically significant than any of our recent Presidents (until Obama, natch).

November 10, 2010 at 6:45 p.m.
champ1 said...

There is no way to rise to the level of success that either of these men have attained without being unusually "smart." This insult is straight out of the liberal playbook of how to demonize your opponents: Insult their intelligence. I listened to President Bush one afternoon in a press conference and heard the only viable argument that's ever made sense to me on pro-dollar devaluation. These guys are both in top 1% of the successful in our society. Labels like this are just childish and immature.

November 10, 2010 at 7 p.m.
sd said...

But the bottom line is this: Bush isn't a hater.

Don't be a hater, Clay.

November 10, 2010 at 7:04 p.m.
Clara said...

OOOH! I've done a baddy I guess.

That's 2 posts in a row tht wouldn't pass.

I thought it was innocuous. Just two definitions of "American exceptionalism", and one on just "exceptionalism".

Both from Wikipedia.???????

November 10, 2010 at 8:55 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

The ever diligent Musicman, responding to a comment I made earlier, posted this (quoting me): "'Heck, polls at the time showed half the Republicans and most of the Democrats were in favor of single payer.'"

"Seriously? I missed that one. Can you provide that poll info for me please?"

You are one lazy dude. I'm sorry that I haven't tracked down the political breakdowns, but I have better things to do. Here is some polling data I'm sure Fox skipped right over.

October 2003 Washington Post/ABC News Poll

“Which health plan would you prefer?”

62% Universal 33% Current 6% No Opinion

October 2005 WSJ/Harris Poll

“Please indicate whether you support or oppose the policy.”

“Universal health insurance”

75% Strongly/Somewhat Favor 17% Strongly/Somewhat Oppose

February 2007 New York Times/CBS News Poll

“Do you think the federal government should guarantee health insurance for all Americans, or isn’t this the responsibility of the federal government?”

64% Guarantee 27% Not Responsible 9% DK/NA

May 2007 CNN/Opinion Research Poll

“Do you think the government should provide a national health insurance program for all Americans, even if this would require higher taxes?”

64% Yes 35% No 2% No opinion

In July 2009, most polls showed the public firmly against the President's health care reform.

Three organizations provided detailed descriptions of said proposed health care legislation to registered voters and recorded the results. It seemed people changed their minds when they found out what was really in the bill. Responders were surprised, for instance, that there were no death panels legislated to kill their grannies.

NBC/WSJ Pro: 56% Con: 38%

NPR Pro: 51% Con: 42%

ABC News/ Washington Post: Pro 54% Con: 43%

November 10, 2010 at 11:01 p.m.
Musicman375 said...

Oooooooh, I thought you meant non-partisan polls. Never mind... nothing to see here but more partisan bias of the liberal flavor. I wonder just how many actual conservatives and independents were polled by those most liberal sources. I bet Fox had a counter poll too. Wow, way to preach to us about bipartisanship then completely disregard it.

November 10, 2010 at 11:57 p.m.
acerigger said...

" Only Bush would be dumb enough to think Obama is so smart. That book must have large font and a lot of pictures. My list of why Obama is so smart could fit on less than half a page." Username: easyeintn | On: November 10, 2010 at 10:04 a.m. That sounds about right.

November 11, 2010 at midnight
blackwater48 said...

MusicMan blathered, "Oooooooh, I thought you meant non-partisan polls. Never mind... nothing to see here but more partisan bias of the liberal flavor."

Are you seriously suggesting that the Wall Street Journal/Harris Poll is a shill for liberals?

Are you seriously disregarding polling data because it doesn't conform to your predetermined point of view? Thanks for making my morning. Nearly spit coffee all over the screen.

In the back of my mind, as I researched the information, I knew showing a brainwashed Fox lackey real polling data from real organizations was a complete waste of time. To my LOL amusement, I was right.

I said that I honestly try, to the best of my ability, to provide accurate information to support my opinions.

What have you got? You got nothing but an agenda.

You whine, "I wonder just how many actual conservatives and independents were polled by those most liberal sources. I bet Fox had a counter poll too."

Yeah, well, get up off your ass and find out. You say the information is out there; go find it. Prove me wrong. Prove yourself right. I would actually appreciate seeing something like that. IT WOULD HELP ME MAKE A MORE FACT-BASED DECISION.

Something you obviously know absolutely nothing about.

November 11, 2010 at 7:49 a.m.
Musicman375 said...

Your words, BW: "In July 2009, most polls showed the public firmly against the President's health care reform."

Just because you found three polls that match YOUR agenda doesn't mean that the majority of Americans agreed with them. I honestly don't care about this topic at all. It's over, we have a new healthcare law, and it's not single payer. The only reason I brought it up is because you made the claim that the majority of Americans want a single payer. That is simply untrue. If it were true, we would have one. Get over yourself. You get so bent out of shape when anyone disagrees with you. Sad.

BTW, I counter "You are one lazy dude." with your next sentence, "I'm sorry that I haven't tracked down the political breakdowns, but I have better things to do."

November 11, 2010 at 8:05 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

MM, I presented four polls conducted between 2003 and 2007 to support my claim. I don't have an agenda. You should try it sometime.

Yes, by July 2009, most polls showed the public was against health care reform, BUT, when people were presented with specifics from the propose legislation they the polled in the affirmative.

I spent some time researching information. I am serious about seeing anything that undercuts my assessment.

By the way, I just happened to remember the 75 percent Dems, 50 percent Reps number from when the health care debate began. When you called me on it I wondered if I had made an error, if I mixed up polling data.

No, I was right, and once I came up with the favorable percentages of 62, 75, 64, and 64 I figured I was done. See, if you take the political breakdown numbers of 75/50, that calculates to a favorable percentage of 62.5.

I know, I know, don't confuse you with facts. Again, show me contrary polling data to support your opinions.

November 11, 2010 at 9:29 a.m.
Musicman375 said...

So you mean to tell me that people were shown cherry picked info highlighting all the warm fuzzy parts of the law, while omitting the bad parts, and they responded positively?! Oh my goodness, that is sooooo shocking.

Why didn't those pollsters have them read the entire law before polling them? Oh, that would be a non-partisan poll i suppose.

"I am serious about seeing anything that undercuts my assessment."

I'm serious about you providing NONBIASED poll data. Sorry BW, but to show a sample population very specific info while withholding other valuable info doesn't not provide an accurate statistic. You have admitted that these polls presented specific info multiple times now. I'm skeptical of how accurate their results actually are since they're only polling based on responses to the pros of the law.

November 11, 2010 at 3:49 p.m.
Musicman375 said...

Actually, never mind my last post. After reading your posts again, I think I assumed too much. If you're saying these polls did in fact present all the data, then I appologize for being wrong. If they did show portions of the law without showing all of it, then the results are most likely not an accurate stat.

BTW, I'm not very conservative by and by. I'm much more of a libertarian, and I (almost) never watch Fox News.

November 11, 2010 at 4:34 p.m.
fairmon said...

Universal health care and the bill that was passed are not synonymous. It is evident those polled had not read and did not understand the bill. It is evident those posting here have not read and understand it fully.

Like mama Pelosi says we will just have to pass it to know what is in it. Everyone will have coverage, no denial due to pre-existing illness are two pluses,. The items not related to health care, new taxes and fees are too many to list. It will be interesting to see the post here as these begin to affect people.

November 12, 2010 at 10:45 p.m.
ffpete said...

When Obama writes his memoirs, you don't need to read them. Just trust him they will be good for you. Just like the health care bill

November 13, 2010 at 12:58 a.m.
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