published Saturday, October 16th, 2010

Genealogy

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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acerigger said...

Evilution?

October 16, 2010 at 12:08 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

I didn't get this cartoon at first. I thought I was missing an 'inside politics' joke, but it turns out to be true according to ancestry.com.

But I have one problem with this: If you are likening Rush to apes I think that's an unnecessarily cruel way of insulting apes.

The less said about Sarah "cut and run" Palin the better.

October 16, 2010 at 12:22 a.m.
chattreb said...

Just another evolutionary theory. The result still looks like a monkey to me.

October 16, 2010 at 12:49 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

chattreb, I guess you stayed up late because it isn't a school night, but you really should get permission from mommy and daddy before writing stupid stuff about the President.

I'm just saying...

October 16, 2010 at 12:54 a.m.
Francis said...

ohh..blackwater, did big, bad chatreb write stupid stuff about the president.

but it's ok to draw stupid cartoons about other people who disagree with you, huh?

like i said many times...libs can ditch it out but can't take it. and the electorate has caught on.

well, mr. bennett does have it partly right.... he does walk upright, and he has ten fingers and ten toes....but i'd say his brain really has not evolved..which is typical of liberals....i'd estimate his brain is about on par with the largest rodent, the caypabara...or, the common jackass..which is quite appropriate.

certainly incapable of problem solving, as proven by the mess he's made.

certainly hank, the chimp, at the warner park zoo would run rings around obama.

of course you'll never know exactly given the amount of brain cells he's lost to all that pot smoking.

October 16, 2010 at 1:41 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

Ha. But Rush is the greatest in his line of work, and Palin's governorship, which lasted about as long as Obama's Presidency has so far, was not disastrous--did she double an already huge deficit, increase already high unemployment, and try to force people to buy health insurance? Youtube song: "Are we better off now than we were two years ago?"

Remember that a GOP Congress made President Clinton reform welfare and balance the budget.

Ain't saying any of them are perfect--that would be Jesus Christ, the President of presidents--but I think we'd see better results from President Limbaugh or President Palin than we have seen from President Obama. Remember, the job of our rulers is "to preserve these rights" (Declaration of Independence); "to secure the blessings of liberty" (Constitution); to let good people live good lives undisturbed, by terrorizing evildoers (I Timothy 1:1-2:4, Romans 12:18-13:10)--not to babysit us with liberalism's loathsome paternalism as if they were of a different species, as the cartoon seems to express what is in Mr Bennett's heart.

October 16, 2010 at 3:59 a.m.
chattreb said...

Yeah, I guess I made blackwater48 a mad little boy, or is that girl, or maybe even girlie-boy? Grow up punk and go to bed early. You need your brain rest.

October 16, 2010 at 5:56 a.m.
EaTn said...

I don't believe in the evolutionists' chain theory, but I did get a big laugh out of this one. Lighten up folks, it's a political cartoon! I would also have found it funny if the chain were from Lieberman, to Kerry to Bush.

October 16, 2010 at 6 a.m.
woody said...

I must admit I got a real good laugh out of all this when I first heard about it several days ago. However, Clay, if I may make one slight suggestion concerning a possible 'redraw'. If you deem it appropriate to bring this subject back again..next time why not attach Palin to his neck and Rush somewhere down around his 'bottom'.

Because these two are the biggest 'pains' to come along in quite some time.

And, Francis, I used to think you might very well be the best argument there is for mandatory birth control, but now I'm afraid it seems you'll have to share that honor with chattreb.

Ah, yes, boys will be boys and idiots will be..well you know.

Go Vols... Woody

October 16, 2010 at 7:30 a.m.
OllieH said...

I saw this story earlier in the week and wondered if we'd see a cartoon about it. Very funny, indeed!

For those who may not have seen the story-

Apparently, President Barack Obama is distantly related to two of his most outspoken critics - Tea Party favorite Sarah Palin and talk-radio host Rush Limbaugh - according to a genealogy website.

Obama and Palin are 10th cousins through common ancestor John Smith. Smith was Obama's and Palin's 12th-great- grandfather. Smith, a Protestant pastor, was an early settler in Massachusetts.

Obama and Limbaugh are 10th cousins once removed through shared connections to Richmond Terrell, a Virginia settler who came to America in the mid-1600s.

October 16, 2010 at 7:42 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

Sorry for getting all of you conservative Neanderthals in a snit. Goodness, and the scope of your blatant lies is staggering. Sorry chatty cathy, comparing the President to a monkey is at least stupid.

Andy wrote: "Remember that a GOP Congress made President Clinton reform welfare and balance the budget."

No. No one does. It never happened. The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 was supported by exactly zero number of Republicans. They said the Bill would cause inflation to sky rocket, Wall Street to collapse, and unemployment to go through the roof. Didn't quite happen that way. Now you clowns are trying to take credit for it.

Have you no shame?

I'll give you partial credit for the Welfare Reform Act of 1996. While Clinton campaigned to "end Welfare as we know it," the bill was a cornerstone of the Republican Contract With America and was introduced by Republican Representative Clay Shaw. Bill Clinton signed it into law on August 22, 1996.

Remember boys, never let facts get in the way of your cockeyed arguments.

I mean, why start now?

October 16, 2010 at 7:45 a.m.
hambone said...

Francis reminds me of a movie.

TALKING SMALL

He's a fib.

October 16, 2010 at 7:46 a.m.
woody said...

Hmmm..let me see..What do you think Ollie??

If 1st cousins are "Kissing Cousins" then 10th cousins must be "P*ssing and Moaning" cousins". Right??

Makes me wonder how closely related Francis and Chattreb might be...

Keep smiling, Woody

October 16, 2010 at 8:58 a.m.
Francis said...

unfortunately..for you libs..palin and obama are much more respected out there than obama....the longer obama is out there the less he's respected and believed. nov. 2nd will confirm that.

i'm sure you'll attribute it to the ignorance of the masses brainwashed by conservatives... but, the fact is if palin ran today against obama, she'd win. hard to swallow that, isn't it.

funny how you feminists have no respect for palin. you'd think she'd be perfect..self-made, balancing family and career....independent ... it must be the abortion thing, huh?......she isn't who she is because of a husband...like hillary or michelle obama.

the dfference between me and you hambone..is i listen and read everything ..both liberal and conservative..conservative radio, liberal radio, what little there is...liberal writers and conservative writers...i don't form my opinion of somone from third and forth hand information...i have to hear it or read it myself...and by far..by far..conservatism has logic, facts, history and common sense on its side.

your fear and obsession of palin borders on the ridiculous. unless you libs run somone else in 2012.....hillary..or someone else...obama will be toast.. if not already after nov. 2nd.

if you believe in evolution....then actually obama should be depicted slithering back into the sea.. ..

October 16, 2010 at 9:34 a.m.

If I were a betting man, I'd say Obama was related to Stalin and Castro somehow.

October 16, 2010 at 9:40 a.m.
Francis said...

yeah..what are you going to do with we conservatives coming on here and crashing your party, woody?

a party that is quite the incestuous gathering. i'd say..given how you all sound exactly alike, react the same way, will not accept reality, have no common sense, avoid facts and repeat the same talking points.

you're doing your best to perpetuate the stereotype of the south.

October 16, 2010 at 9:52 a.m.
Humphrey said...

keep ditching it out, Francis, tell us how it is out there.

October 16, 2010 at 10:11 a.m.
Clara said...

There's a wonderful Web site, name unknown, that offers you a geneology search.

It gives you a relationship with Jesus. (A relative got taken in.)

I believe there is also mathematical information somewhere, that states that everyone seems to be related after 5 or 6 generations.

With both these significant, perhaps improbably inaccurate,unproven soothsayers, I am, probably related to Methuslah, Genghis Kahn, Hitler, Jesus, Shakespeare, Einstein, the Pope, even Canary and Francis, Rush Limbaugh, Vad the impaler, and a few other GOOD people.

Rolando?

October 16, 2010 at 10:23 a.m.
rolando said...

You forgot his relationship to Mao, the NoKor nutcases, and Suharto -- the Prez's personal hero...

October 16, 2010 at 10:58 a.m.
rolando said...

Here's a half-serious thought, definitely outside the box.

Exactly WHY do we need Congress? What EXACTLY do they do that either the Prez or the judiciary doesn't do?

  1. The Prez doesn't need funding -- he owns the Treasury and our money is based on nothing anyway so he can print what he needs to carry out his socialization of the US. He is well on his way with his appointed czars of everything. He controls the IRS and can establish a dole or something for everyone living here, working or not, legal or not. Those working for the government in any capacity would pay no taxes; those working for capitalists would pay 75% of their gross to the government, benefits [and their dole] to be included as income. Everyone will have equal access to free medical care [doesn't mean they will get it but they have access].

  2. The courts do our legislation for us already by taking existing law and interpreting it to meet any situation or occurrence that comes up.

Let's face it, the Constitution is pretty well ignored by Congress these days so that excuse for their existence is gone. They equally ignore the people; they are no longer our representatives within the government...they represent only themselves and the big, moneyed interests. Finally, the Prez looks after the common welfare and inter- intra-state travel/commerce so that one is covered for them.

So. Since a revolution is looming, the manifesto of those in revolt should include the elimination of the Congress and all its works from that day forward. The buildings, properties, and other assets -- tangible and intangible -- including the Capitol Building and all artwork to be sold to the highest bidder; payment accepted only in gold, platinum, or other hard goods.

This should not bother the libs and others with no sense of history or an ignorance/disregard thereof.

We would save trillions of dollars each year by eliminating this Branch of Government.

Anyone add anything/object? [Except you, FM, you're a bit too far out-of-the-box scary most times.]

October 16, 2010 at 11:25 a.m.
TinaFrench said...

Oh for heavens sake, Francis, do you seriously think we women are jealous of Sarah? Just shows how you can read and listen to everything and still not see the truth.
We know how she achieves her goals, and it certainly isn't with her intelligence. Sarah Barracuda is still a high school diva, and hysterically enough, some men are still buying it.

October 16, 2010 at 11:33 a.m.
SeaSmokie59er said...

2012

Let's do an About, FACE! (Military lingo)

October 16, 2010 at 11:58 a.m.
Clara said...

Rolly,

I was questioning whether you were related to me, not for one of your twisted posts.

If I follow the above guidelines, I guess I've got to include YOU, too.

You're stuck with ME! TEE HEE!

October 16, 2010 at 1:14 p.m.
hambone said...

The reason Palin quit the governor's job was a conflict of interest. Governor duties interfered with MOOSE SEASON!!

note to Francis: don't be in such a hurry, reread what you type.

October 16, 2010 at 1:53 p.m.
acerigger said...

I'm amazed at how many GOPer sooth-sayers there are these days,"Palin beats Obama","the revolution is looming","Repub take-over in Nov.", the Tarot reading lady in E.Ridge has plenty of competition. Y'all just crack me up!LOL!

October 16, 2010 at 1:57 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

I decided to lighten up a little. Try to be more bi-partisan, more of a good liberal in the purest definition of that word. I decided to give back, to help you guys huddled over there on the right. I came across this Bloomberg popularity poll that was conducted from October 7 - 10, 2010.

If you love Sarah Palin you may find the numbers stunning.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is the most popular political figure in the nation, receiving a favorable rating of 64 percent. First Lady Michelle Obama is next with a 62 percent positive rating.

President Obama lagged behind both of them at 53 percent favorable.

Sarah Palin, who tallied 38 percent, fell right behind Jon Stewart, the liberal host of "The Daily Show," at 39 percent. Glenn Beck, the Fox television host, was next at 34 percent.

Despite the trashing that political parties are taking this year, they did surprisingly well: the Democratic Party polled at 47 percent favorable, followed by Republicans at 45 percent, and the Tea Party at 41 percent.

Again, I did not conduct the survey myself. Bloomberg did. I'm just reporting, just trying to help. You decide. And, like i said, I'm only offering these numbers to help you all make arguments that are more cogent and less obtuse.

October 16, 2010 at 2:34 p.m.
sd said...

I noticed something interesting (to me) about that Bloomberg poll.

link: http://media.bloomberg.com/bb/avfile/rUtERn9eLmGU

Sarah Palin received a 38% favorable rating, as blackwater noted. Here's the next question:

"If the 2012 election for U.S. President were held today and the candidates were [Sarah Palin for the Republicans] and [Barack Obama for the Democrats], for whom would you vote—[Sarah Palin] or [Barack Obama], or would you likely not vote? (Alternate which candidate is read first every other interview.)

51 Barack Obama 35 Sarah Palin 10 Will likely not vote 4 Not sure"

If 38% approve of Palin, and 35% would vote for Palin if she ran against Obama in 2012, can we assume that essentially everyone who approves of Palin also believes she would be a better/more fit president than Obama?

I think this fact--if we can even call it a fact--says a lot more about the American public than one might suppose.

October 16, 2010 at 2:59 p.m.
woody said...

I am a "Child of God" and a "Brother of Man." However, if I find that Francis is somewhere in my "Family Tree" I hopes he keeps on 'swinging' up there so I won't have to miss the reunion.

Actually, I'm sort of hoping the GOP does do well in the upcoming elections. It would almost be a welcomed relief to see how well they fend off the same sort of criticism the current administration has had to suffer with the past two years.

And you may be sure..it will happen...

And, lastly, Francis..if it's true you read everything Liberal and Conservative, you must have the worst case of selective memory in history.

Don't worry, be happy, Woody

October 16, 2010 at 3:15 p.m.
EaTn said...

rolando- I had to give you a thumbs-up on that post because you definitely made a valid point. Can anyone honestly say that Washington represents their views and needs anymore? Sure, they shoot a hoop now and then, but most of their game is dribbling with tax payer money and scoring points from the foul line.

October 16, 2010 at 5:44 p.m.
whatsthefuss said...

Fend off the same sort of criticism??? I just can't stop laughing!!! I think it's giving me a WOODY!! I sure wish the Dem faithful would for once be creative in their criticism and not be so PARROT LIKE. Polly dosen't like crackers any more. As to Clays Toon, he just drew them in reverse order. Clay Bennett. The original white knuckle dragger.

October 16, 2010 at 6:26 p.m.

And why doesn't Congress represent the views of the people? Because they are beholden to the corporations that sponsor their reelection bids, because the Supreme Court has determined that money is speech. So those with more money have a louder voice and more free speech. This court that Rolando accuses of over-reaching in its interpretation of the legislation passed by Congress is a creation of the GOP. We need to devise a system, no matter how difficult, that will remove the influence of money from the electoral process. Then the people will be heard again.

October 16, 2010 at 6:29 p.m.

And by the way, aren't we truly blessed to have a man of such talent as Clay Bennett. It as an amazing thing that he can conjure up five cartoons a week that bring together the community in discussion and debate. There are only 65 newspapers in the country that even employ a full-time editorial cartoonist and we happen to have one who has won a Pulitzer Prize and finished as a finalist on two other occasions. Before Clay we also had the fine work of Bruce Plante. All in all we are well served by our local print media. Not that I think there could not be improvements, but not many communities our size have someone like Harry Austin, Dave Flessner, Andy Sher and Clay Bennett servings us.

October 16, 2010 at 6:40 p.m.
whatsthefuss said...

Anyone who believes that the problems Congress brings to this country are the result of one party is being very simplistic. The reasons health care is still such a burdon and will continue to be is that there was no reform at all. The cost is still the same. Hospitals are still non profit, doctors are still riding the financial gravy train and the quality is somewhere in the middle at best. Hypocrites or hippocratic. Everybodys in it for the money any more!!! The future just ain't what it used to be!! I love famous Americans. They say the dardest things!!

October 16, 2010 at 6:42 p.m.
rolando said...

First and foremost, I said nothing about political parties in my last post; nor did I single out specific examples of "moneyed interests" or specify individual courts.

Congress has been making itself more and more irrelevant for decades; the federal courts have been making increasingly activist decisions for the same period; the Prez' infection-like takeover of Legislative duties goes back to FDR, at least.

My post has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with relevance. The Congress and its entire bureaucracy from the top down nationwide are nothing but money and power grubbing bloodsuckers, IMO. We won't change that in 10 national elections, much less one. In many if not most cases, ONE MAN decides the course of a bill's progress through the legislative process. That one man [or woman, of course...I believe in generics] is the Chairman of each Committee; he alone decides what moves, when it moves, or if it dies. The Chairman is appointed how and by whom? By the reigning political party and by seniority within the party, of course. The longer he is in office, the more corrupt he becomes from those "moneyed interests" and the more power he gains. No wonder we are where we are...

BTW, MaxHackett, the SCOTUS decision in favor of free speech was a positive thing for us all... It would be much, much better if all politicians were forced, under threat of being unseated, to disclose all moneys received for foreign sources of any kind with zero tolerance for "I forgot" or "I didn't know that" type excuses. If they "forgot" or "didn't know" they do not deserve to hold our trust or our elected office.

October 16, 2010 at 8:54 p.m.
hambone said...

Francis sure does rant a lot about Obama seeing that they both come from Chicago. Seems like there's something personal going on. Want to tell us about it Francis?

October 16, 2010 at 8:57 p.m.
rolando said...

I was trying to be non-combative, Clara. I believe humanity itself is interrelated at the 32nd generation level or so.

It takes all kinds of people to row the boat; one's oar-partner is simply unimportant...so long as they row.

October 16, 2010 at 8:57 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

MaxHackett wrote, "And why doesn't Congress represent the views of the people? Because they are beholden to the corporations that sponsor their reelection bids, because the Supreme Court has determined that money is speech."

Follow the money. What's the single largest expenditure for candidates? Broadcast advertising. Once upon a time this country outlawed liquor ads on television for being a public nuisance.

Simply ban political ads on TV and radio.

Without the need for millions and millions of dollars, with public television and radio at each candidate's disposal, campaigns would change and then candidates would change.

Then Congress would change because politicians would no longer need mammoth war chests to flood the airwaves with 30-second and 60-second TV and radio spots. They would no longer have to appeal to large corporate sponsors to ensure their election.

They would have to appeal to voters.

You might say I'm a dreamer...but I'm not the only one...

October 16, 2010 at 10:20 p.m.
Clara said...

Well Rolly,

I row from back to front, with my back to where we are going.

If you're my rowing partner, I get the feeling you're rowing front to back or perhaps sitting facing where you are going and also rowing back to front.

Now, as I'm sure you know, paddling a canoe is not the same.

We both sit facing where we're going, but you are sitting in the back of the canoe, trailing your oar flat and changing the direction of the whole boat.

Your post at 8:54 p.m. has the most sense in it than I've heard from you for months. I'm sure whatsthefuss agrees.

I also agree with your aupposition that it would take more generations in the last 6 or 7 million years or so to decide if we had common ancestors, male and female chimpanze. I did mention that those sites were not reliable.

Multiplying our ancestors exponentially from 2XE? for each generation back might do the trick. I don't have the time to go to Excel and try it, and I don't have a calculator. They probably couldn't handle the problem anyway.

My math is VERY rusty so if anyone has one at hand, I'd be interested in knowing what figure you get.

Remember that the generations were reduced in years the further back you go, so their would be more generations per year the further you go back. Chimps had babies as soon as they passed puberty, and didn't live very long. Also, the number of relations would decrease. Right?

Do you think time travel would help?

Perhaps in a few thousand years?

Are there any math geniusis, genii? out there? I'm absolutely NOT. C:-)

October 16, 2010 at 10:24 p.m.

Rolando wrote: "BTW, MaxHackett, the SCOTUS decision in favor of free speech was a positive thing for us all... It would be much, much better if all politicians were forced, under threat of being unseated, to disclose all moneys received for foreign sources of any kind with zero tolerance for "I forgot" or "I didn't know that" type excuses. If they "forgot" or "didn't know" they do not deserve to hold our trust or our elected office." But the decision allows for groups to create 501(c)(4) organizations that can claim that their activities are less than 50% political to hide all of their donations and funding sources. If you are saying that we should know who has paid for a political advertisement then I agree with you. But that is not what is being allowed to happen now.

October 17, 2010 at 6:13 a.m.

Blackwater, I appreciate your sense of humor. To try to follow you down the rabbit hole of denying free speech to all candidates would be a simple waste of time. Kill the mailman, not the manipulator behind the misleading missive.

October 17, 2010 at 6:23 a.m.
rolando said...

So eliminate the "percent political" provision, BW. Make it so one politically-designated dollar taken in tips the whole bucket of disclosure. [Congress would never voluntarily allow that to happen, of course, whether the people voted it in or not. That's where our Founding Documents-imposed duty to change our government by whatever means comes into play.]

Groups in any percent of political activity that conceal their funding is like PETA (or the IRA, et al) claiming they do not use contributions to support the violent arm. Every dollar received for legit activities means freeing up one dollar from a different fund to be given to violence. There is no separating the money...it is all colored.

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom to conceal.

October 17, 2010 at 7:55 a.m.
rolando said...

I failed to make myself clear again, Clara. That's happening more often of late. Sigh.

I meant to say that we are all related at the 32nd-cousin level. It was NOT meant to be a generational thing.

Or that's how the story went. I didn't verify it.

October 17, 2010 at 8 a.m.
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