published Thursday, February 16th, 2012

Back to the Future

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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John_Proctor said...

Where's the flux capacitor, Clay?

BTW, doesn't Santorum remind you of the Ron Howard character in Happy Days? He couldn't separate reality from nostalgia either.

February 16, 2012 at 12:24 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

IT'S LIKE DEJA VU ALL OVER AGAIN

Rick is apparently delighted to run as the non-official Catholic candidate and delighted to bear all the implied and expressed crosses that title may suggest. In this raucous republican primary, facing a moderate opponent, his message about the evils of birth control pills and contraception was sound political thinking...

In 1955.

What happened to the republican party? Did the establishment GOP fly to Vegas and bet $50 billion on the over? Is it all a ruse to arrive at the convention in Tamp with no clear winner? Are they counting on a brokered convention? Do establishment republicans - representing 30% of the party but controlling all of the big money - seriously believe any of their current clown candidates will win in November?

Back to the cartoon: nice rendering of the car and great message.

Here's another: Nostalgia isn't what is used to be.

February 16, 2012 at 12:45 a.m.
nucanuck said...

What are Santorum's strengths?

Jon Huntsman was interviewed on PBS the other night and I couldn't help but be impressed by his knowledge and ability to articulate about geo-politics and economics. None of the other GOP candidates are in his league and yet he was ignored.

Can the American public not see beyond social issues?

February 16, 2012 at 1:54 a.m.
fairmon said...

nucanuck said... What are Santorum's strengths?

Jon Huntsman was interviewed on PBS the other night and I couldn't help but be impressed by his knowledge and ability to articulate about geo-politics and economics. None of the other GOP candidates are in his league and yet he was ignored.

Can the American public not see beyond social issues?

I agree. He was the best republican candidate but without adequate funding. The office of the POTUS and a seat in congress appears to be for sale to the highest bidder. Obama will buy it again with a huge campaign fund and tax money. It would be interesting to know where the contributions came from and who funds his PAC. Hello Wall St. and the top ten which are primarily unions. George who?

Obama says don't go to a gun fight with a knife. He is coming with a Howitzer against a 38. The republicans say they are attacking each other, they are in the minor leagues. He will blow them away with his mastery of innuendos and half truths. When was the last time anyone talked about comprehensive election reform and a proposal that made sense? Incumbents will never pass anything that doesn't favor them. Term limits in congress are badly needed but who in congress would ever support such?

February 16, 2012 at 2:29 a.m.

Harp,

you are absolutely right about Obamas campaign funding. In my years in the US I learned that two types of people are basically always Democrats, the very smartest (Ivy-league professors, nobel-laureates) and the very, very richest like Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, Zuckerberg, Soros.. So if the race tigthens up in fall then the big buck will roll in for Obama. BUT, whereas the donors for the Repubs expect something in return, less regulations, busting unions, etc, the people like Buffett want nothing in return, they are just disgusted by the stupidity floating out of the Repubs mouths. They dont want to spend their life in another 8 year Bush type ideocracy. This is worth millions for them...

So, remember, it was the conservatives who wanted citizens united, and it plays well for them on the state level, but on the big state, when everything is on the line, then it plays against them. They very well deserve that. Maybe learning the hard way they will finally help to overrule the decision...

Here in Germany we have a great laugh about your GOP-primary, it is better than comedy... And the CPAC is similar to the gathering of the Nazis at Nuernberg, just empty hate-speeches targeted to the very primitive part of the populations...

February 16, 2012 at 3:41 a.m.
EaTn said...

This is tops among all Clay's cartoons--visual and appropriate. The right-wingers have run out of "everyone but Romney" candidates, so Santorum looks like the last man standing. There's really only one qualification he needs to stick to and that is "I'm not Romney".

February 16, 2012 at 5:57 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

Jimmy Carter may've been smarter than Ronald Reagan (or not), but Carter's presidency was disastrous and Reagan's pretty good. Jefferson Davis may've been smarter than most blacks in America, but did that give him a right to enslave them? Smart people who want to run other people's lives make worse rulers than humble people who mostly let other people pursue their own efforts. As for 1955, wasn't the economy better then than it has been since Obama joined the Senate as the Democrats took Congress?

February 16, 2012 at 5:58 a.m.
EaTn said...

AndrewLohr said "As for 1955, wasn't the economy better then than it has been since Obama joined the Senate as the Democrats took Congress?"

In 1955 we were entering a major recession with a republican president that lasted until JFK was elected the democrat president in 1960.

February 16, 2012 at 6:06 a.m.
joneses said...

johnproctor

Doesn't obama remind you of Alfred E Newman on the cover of Mad Magazine. Obama has the same "I am going to screw you" look as Alfred. And that is exactly what obama is doing. Obama makes you and all the racist socialist liberals look foolish. You are like a bunch of sheep being led to slaughter. It is disgusting to see how gullible all you are, absolutely disgusting.

EaTn,

You say we have run out of everyone but Romney? Look at the pathetic fool you liberals were left with, Obama. Are you still proud that he has increased the national debt by 6 trillion dollars in 3 years with nothing to show for it? Are you proud that Obama continues to lie to you and makes you look foolish? You liberals are disgusting. Why do you foolish liberal socialist not boast about Obama's accomplishments? You cannot because he has not accomplished anything possitive. Clay Bennett cannot even make a cartoon about the accomplishments of this fool you support as president. You socialist liberals have nothing but hate in you. I am man enough to say I hate what you pathetic envious victim laden socialist liberals want to do to this country. You all should be ashamed of what you want to do to this country and the racisim you have towards the black community by keeping them down with all your false promises. You are all disgusting.

February 16, 2012 at 6:52 a.m.
woody said...

Being taken for a ride by any politician is nothing new..granted it may be fun at first, but when reality sets in, the truth is right there in front of you....there is no 'going home' again.

So, what we need to do is hire(elect) the best crew(congress) available, lead by a hardworking, level-headed foreman(president)to refurbish those 'homes' we have available to us today, from the ground up. They must be safe and secure, something Americans became used to back in the "good old days", but have been missing for many decades now.

Personally, I don't believe the conservatives have anyone qualified for the job this time around(that's not a derogatory remark, just an opinion), but if Congress would try working with the current(and next administration) a little better, instead of fighting,bickering and name calling we could get a head start on all our futures.

Not conservative, not liberal, AMERICANS, one and all..Woody

February 16, 2012 at 7:25 a.m.
dude_abides said...

How many faces are you gonna wear, Francis?

February 16, 2012 at 7:26 a.m.
joneses said...

An example of how disgusting and irresponsible liberals actually are. When Congressman Paul Ryan proposed a solution to Medicare/Medicaid I think it was Nancy Pelosi that said if Paul Ryans plan passes 80,000 seniors will be homeless and Harry ried said 20,000 children will die. And you liberals did not find these statements disgusting. Amazing. Now a headline has come out today which reads "Obama's budget cuts bacteria testing in produce". Why are your goddess of stupidity (pelosi) and god of stupidity (ried) not saying that this pathetic president wants to kill hundreds of thousands of people by contaminating our produce? I know because it is not a Republican proposing this. That is exactly how disgusting and hateful you liberals have become. You are a pathetic, racist, disgusting lot and should be ashamed of yourself for instilling fear in the innocent people you manipulate with your filth

February 16, 2012 at 7:45 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

yep-it's Francis alright with a few more capital letters

February 16, 2012 at 7:49 a.m.
alprova said...

How can anyone take what he has to say seriously, when he can't even stick to using one name?

The most laughable thing about his posts is his reference to Liberals being "hateful and disgusting" given the language he uses in every post.

Francis, you are a real piece of work and will forever be a legend in your own mind.

February 16, 2012 at 7:55 a.m.
joneses said...

Here is a perfect example of how racist liberals are. Black conservatives have it worse than most other conservatives when it comes to how they are treated by the more militant members of the political opposition – especially by black liberals. Stray from the group-think mentality even just a little bit, and all of a sudden you’re an “Oreo” or an “Uncle Tom” or a “traitor to your race”, etc. It’s disgusting, but unfortunately it’s also tolerated by white liberals because they’re so desperate to retain their hold on the black vote. For this reason the blacks are being used by the liberals through false promises of if the wealthy white person is brought down you will be better off. This is a disgusting lie. What is amazing is the liberals are always degrading wealthy Republicans but never put the likes of Al Gore, worth 100 million, Nancy Pelosi, worth 67 million, Bill Clinton, worth >50 million, George Soros, who made his billions from Hedge Funds which you hypocritical liberals hate so much, and others. Do you not realize what disgusting hypocrits you are?

February 16, 2012 at 8:04 a.m.
miraweb said...

Troll away, Francis.

It's funny though - when you watch Santorum speak none of his facial muscles move and he seems to forget to blink.

February 16, 2012 at 8:19 a.m.
MTJohn said...

nucanuck said...Jon Huntsman was interviewed on PBS the other night and I couldn't help but be impressed by his knowledge and ability to articulate about geo-politics and economics. None of the other GOP candidates are in his league and yet he was ignored.

I agree. Huntsman impressed me as the only person in the GOP with both competence and integrity. Unfortunately, those do not seem to be attributes that the R's would like to see in their candidate.

1955????? Rick Santorum is no Dwight Eisenhower!

February 16, 2012 at 8:24 a.m.
miraweb said...

Here is Santorum's "To Hell with the GOP Moderates" speech at CPAC. It probably would have gone better without the gal wearing the "Monica Lewinsky" haircut hovering over his right shoulder.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FQg4a6Y4XU

February 16, 2012 at 8:32 a.m.
MTJohn said...

harp3339 said...Obama says don't go to a gun fight with a knife. He is coming with a Howitzer against a 38.

I don't think so, harp. Karl Rove's PAC will also bring at least one howitzer and it will be loaded with beehive.

February 16, 2012 at 8:33 a.m.
MTJohn said...

joneses said...Here is a perfect example of how racist liberals are. Black conservatives have it worse than most other conservatives when it comes to how they are treated by the more militant members of the political opposition – especially by black liberals.

joneses - it you insist on being Ann Coulter's parrot, you should at least give her credit.

February 16, 2012 at 8:39 a.m.
davisss13 said...

Good cartoon. I can picture Santorum or Romney in the goofy fringed cowboy clothes McFly dressed in.

Funny how one ignorant, raging rightwinger can poison a forum.

(shakes head)

February 16, 2012 at 8:42 a.m.
jesse said...

how is santorum's facial expression relevant to his ability to run the country?

He also lets his toenails get too long!(right off the the bat this tells you he's dumber than a box of hammers!)

btw: ignorance and raging is not limited to the right wingers on here!

February 16, 2012 at 9:03 a.m.
Jack_Dennis said...

The nanny-state approaches. Well done all you "progressive", wannabe intellectuals. Well done.

February 16, 2012 at 9:46 a.m.
miraweb said...

Santorum's campaign would have a pretty hard time in the general election.

For the past six years (since he lost his Senate seat) he has been 'consulting' for health care and energy companies. That has made him a very wealthy man, but he has forgotten to take off his lobbying hat.

He is running a campaign based solely on health care in a year where not much matters but the economy and jobs. That doesn't seem very smart to me. At least you can tell who owns him.

February 16, 2012 at 10:10 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Miraweb said: "It's funny though - when you watch Santorum speak none of his facial muscles move and he seems to forget to blink."

This may be situational, Miraweb. Do you recall what Santorum was discussing when you noted this? I’m asking because I saw a clip of Santorum discussing the Hosanna-Tabor case and he was blinking a lot - so much so that it caught my attention.

Of course, Santorum was lying at the time. He was citing the case as proof that President Obama believed that Catholics would have to hire women priests to comply with employment discrimination issues. The fact the Obama Administration’s brief specifically states that it would be unconstitutional to tell the Catholic Church to do this didn’t seem to matter to Santorum.

February 16, 2012 at 10:12 a.m.

Still waiting for someone to convince me Obama deserves 4 more years. Still waiting for someone to convince me he has done a good job. It seems to me that most of the things Obama complains that he inherited are things that he voted for while a Senator and has always supported.

February 16, 2012 at 11:13 a.m.
davisss13 said...

Jack_Dennis said... The nanny-state approaches. Well done all you "progressive", wannabe intellectuals. Well done.

What a joke. I'll just assume you're a Republican because of that comment.

Does the name Terry Shaivo ring a bell? GOP hypocrites would steal a person's final wishes in their quest for control. The honest to god truth is those zealots would gladly inflict their situational morals and ethics on everyone. They'd like to rule our lives from the cradle to the grave with this twisted version of Judeo/Christian values that EVEN THEY set aside at the slightest hint of discomfort or inconvenience. (David Vitter comes to mind as well as countless others)

It's called a track record.

February 16, 2012 at 11:14 a.m.
acerigger said...

"Santorum as the dumbest member of congress"

Read it & weep,(with laughter)

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/01/04/santorum-thats-latin-for-a$$hole/

February 16, 2012 at 11:37 a.m.
MTJohn said...

blondebutnotdumb said...Still waiting for someone to convince me Obama deserves 4 more years.

You won't agree with any of them, but I will offer a few reasons why I intend to vote for him, assuming one of the current R candidates is nominated: 1. I appreciate that the President has employed a deliberative and pragmatic rather than and ideological approach to governance. 2. I appreciate that the President has made an honest effort at bi-partisan governance even though it was obvious that the R leadership has consistently refused to participate in honest collaboration. 3. I appreciate that the President has made an honest effort to govern from the middle, as President of all Americans, not just the President of his base, and, even though, in doing so knew that he would lost support from some of the people who helped to get him elected in the first place. 4. I appreciate that the President, more so than any of the R's candidates or his predecessor, has good understanding of the Constitution and respect for the values implicit in the Constitution.

February 16, 2012 at 11:43 a.m.
librul said...

OMG - Santorum's coming here on the 25th to headline the Pee Party's big Rethuglifest. Better stock up on Lysol. One wonders if the event will consume the budget just devoted to the stink problem at Moccasin Bend.

Oh, and I hope they invite all the Volkswagen executives, they need to get a good look at what American politics is becoming and who they will have to negotiate with if the idiots get elected.

February 16, 2012 at 11:50 a.m.
lkeithlu said...

Geeez-I DID read it and wept. But not with laughter. The man's a menace.

February 16, 2012 at noon
BigRidgePatriot said...

From a historical perspective, the American Experiment launched by our Founders is the only thing new on the political landscape. We had a pretty good run but both parties have fallen into the nanny state mode and are destroying everything that made this country great. The experiment is in danger of being “fundamentally transformed” into a mediocre copy of the failed European model. Dorks like Bennett are destined to drag us into serfdom in their simple minded quest for security at someone else’s expense.

Both the Republican establishment and the Democrats are guilty of taking us back to a future of big, oppressive government, the same kind of government that our founders fought to free us from.

Bennett is too stupid and has such a limited understanding of history that he cannot see that both of the parties are taking us down the same path towards his "democratic utopia", which is a really just oppressive government control dressed in "consent" of a brainwashed and deceived population.

Novel indeed, the big government path is as novel as a sloth and laziness is to the average human animal.

74 more simple minded messages on Republican candidates to go. How many leftist clichés can you dig up over the remainder of the year Mr. Wart?

February 16, 2012 at 12:07 p.m.

MtJohn,

You must be joking. Not only do I not agree with any of your points, it's pure fantasy and just talking points. He's the exact opposite of what you say. Why don't take a job as his spokesman.

He's too much about what he can do TO US. He has issues and a huge chip on his shoulder. He has ZERO respect for the Constitution.

February 16, 2012 at 12:11 p.m.
acerigger said...

librul said..."One wonders if the event will consume the budget just devoted to the stink problem at Moccasin Bend."

Naw librul,that really is a sewage problem.

The stink from the "tea-fest" is the smell of desperation!

February 16, 2012 at 12:14 p.m.
whatsnottaken said...

His pupeteers suddenly feeling threatened by Santorum, Clay is made to spend several days attacking the latest GOP hot ticket. Thus is life in the penthouse, er, outhouse, at Free Press editorial board room.

February 16, 2012 at 12:21 p.m.
librul said...

Hope he brings his Delorean - I want to see what America looks like about 50 years in the future. You know, Mandarin as the national language, capitalists doing hard labor (for once), everyone using bikes, gnoshing on algae pellets, drinking desalinated sea water, and using pedal-driven generators for lights, etc, etc. Oh, and negotiating a trade agreement with Newt's successor on the Moon.

February 16, 2012 at 12:32 p.m.
carlB said...

AndrewLohr said... Jimmy Carter may've been smarter than Ronald Reagan (or not), but Carter's presidency was disastrous and Reagan's pretty good


Reply: AndrewLohr, saying does not make it true. It seems that only the Republicans KEEP trying to make Carter and Obama the two worse presidents ever. We know who the "destroyers" have been and it is the Democrats with the help of the people who have had to always get this Republic back in the "right balance" after the Republicans' terms in office. Just check this out.

February 16, 2012 at 12:53 p.m.
librul said...

The Bing.com homepage is featuring the National Tea Party's Executive Committee today in their latest planning session for Santorum's big push toward the convention.

http://www.bing.com

February 16, 2012 at 1:01 p.m.
limric said...

Good cartoon Clay. It’s ironic that so much of today’s GOP is fantasy-based entertainment while at the same time little Ricky’s religion is supposedly at the height of popularity(same difference?). How did you make so much money from 2007-2009 while the rest of the country was losing its 401ks, homes and jobs? What faux dogma is it that you practice?

All this tragic conditioning. And people believe it mostly because it's indoctrinated into minds before they've had a chance to open, like flowers expanding naturally to take in the Light of understanding! Teaching Republicans Christian horror-movie style lies is sheer child-abuse!

Recently I pulled out my copy of, "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest." I'd not read it in decades, and remembered the fury I felt at its conclusion. Reading it again, seeing nurse Ratchet adhere to rigid rules and thereby completely lose her capacity for empathy, becoming herself dead, seemed to me a very apt metaphor for much of the GOP, given its emphasis on fear, punishment, obedience, security and following rules.

Truly, much of our nation has become a lunatic asylum.

February 16, 2012 at 1:06 p.m.
News_Junkie said...

blondebutnotdumb:

I'm still waiting for you to post something worth reading.

February 16, 2012 at 1:09 p.m.
whatsnottaken said...

Some of us might call this the rapture, a clean-cut AMERICAN taking us away from the Post-Obamalyptic world. Save me a seat.

February 16, 2012 at 1:11 p.m.
mtngrl said...

Good one limric, I now have the image of all the GOP contenders dressed as nurse Ratchet stuck in my head. Makes the political theater all the more amusing :)

February 16, 2012 at 1:35 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Some of us might call this the rapture, a clean-cut AMERICAN taking us away from the Post-Obamalyptic world.

Since Obama is both clean cut and American, I assume you forgot to add "white".

Save me a seat.

Gladly. Don't let the door hit you on the butt on your way out.

February 16, 2012 at 1:41 p.m.
timbo said...

It simply amazes me that aside politics you liberals are so math challenged. It is lunacy for Obama to increase spending in the face of $16,000,000,000,000 in debt. What kind of idiot would think that the solution of debt is to spend more.

If the liberal idea is to increase spending, cap and trade, environmental overreach, weak foreign policy, over regulation of the banks, over regulation of industry, union domination, global warming hysteria, and $ 5.00 gas because of not drilling our own oil is the plan, then I will be more than happy to go back to the future.

Stupidity and socialism, birds of a feather.

February 16, 2012 at 1:44 p.m.
tipper said...

Santorum has at least two huge problems: the economy is somewhat on the rise, and his reputation is of a Washington insider who handily lost his senate seat. It is then no surprise that he is pulling the "cultural war" card. The difference is that the cultural war card worked well for Bush in the last decade with Bush's stand against stem-cell research, federal funding of abortion, his vision of God asking him to run for the presidency, etc. No doubt there are tea partiers and evangelical Christians who support those issues, but it a different time and place now. Jobs, reigning in financial coruption, Citizen's United, and super pacs from both parties that will play a a distasteful role in our politics, and simple security young and old alike in the future are forefront. Bennett's cartoon depicts very well the image of a sweater-vested, "Father Knows Best" type that is lost in the 1950s but is out of place with the key issues facing Americans. People can downplay Obama's intelligence and his accomplishments, but what this country needs now is a smart guy, not a nice guy. There is no doubt that Santorum will be hard to attack without looking like a bully, but his voting record makes him very vulnerable. Is Santorum the "true conservative?" Yes, but he is too conservative even for many conservatives. The Republican party has positioned itself out of contention for 2012. It's shopping list of extreme candidates and the obstructionist members of Congress will ultimately do them in. The "cultural war" is just another distraction. Their best chance if any is 2016.

February 16, 2012 at 1:46 p.m.
MTJohn said...

blondebutnotdumb said...You must be joking. Not only do I not agree with any of your points, it's pure fantasy and just talking points.

As I predicted, you do not agree. Yes, they are talking points - but, they are my talking points, based on observation of the man in office. They are not the words of some talking head whose biased perspective I already agreed with before turning on the TV.

blondebutnotdumb said...He's the exact opposite of what you say.

Please cite specific examples that contradict each of the four points, preferably something a little more substantive than suggesting that he is a nazi-communist who wasn't really born in the United States etc. etc.

February 16, 2012 at 3:01 p.m.
MTJohn said...

mtngrl said...Good one limric, I now have the image of all the GOP contenders dressed as nurse Ratchet stuck in my head. Makes the political theater all the more amusing :)

It would be amusing political theater if nurse Ratchet were in the race. Unfortunately, she's the brain trust behind the PAC that will support the nominee.

February 16, 2012 at 3:05 p.m.
JustOneWoman said...

Nooga, I think you nailed it! They are not even trying to put a decent candidate forward. I think they want to fail and make it so bad that even a Bush (Jeb) will be welcomed by the Republican party.

February 16, 2012 at 4:07 p.m.
whatsnottaken said...

Good thing lkeithlu is here to throw out a race card. Yea for lkeithlu. Say, why can Clay only draw white folk treading on everybody else while we're at it? Does he dare not draw a black person downtrodden. Hmmm. Guess I'm just one of the evil treaders in Clay's world.

February 16, 2012 at 4:13 p.m.

News Junkie, I'm not here for your amusement. I want you Democrats to convince me Obama has done a good job and that we need him for four more years. I don't see a good job, I don't see how he respects the Constitution.

It's on record that Obama believes the Constitution is too much about what the Government can't do. I think it was in an interview early in his career.

Forget the Constitution, if you want, his throwing gas on a fire approach to our debt is enough reason to not vote for him.

Not one person on here is capable of convincing me he deserves 4 more years. It has nothing to do with me already making up my mind, it has to do with the facts.

He's a terrible money manager who would be fired from any other job.

February 16, 2012 at 4:20 p.m.
lkeithlu said...

Just repeating your own words, what. Obama IS American and clean cut, so what, pray tell, was your point?

February 16, 2012 at 4:33 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

REPUBLICANS HAVE NOTHING BUT FEAR

Since none of the republican candidates have put forth a vision of their presidency all that's left is their tax policy. (Not Ron Paul - he's on his own quest) They all promise to increase military spending. Cut taxes for the rich. Balance the budget. Just like George Bush promised.

They're all peddling fear. Be afraid, they scream, Obama is a muslim hell-bent on despotic rule! He wants to shred the Constitution! He's creating a European model socialist state!

BBND made this statement: Not one person on here is capable of convincing me he (Obama) deserves 4 more years. It has nothing to do with me already making up my mind...

I'll take you at your word. Fine. If that's the case, imagine if you will, but make sure you're sitting down first, what America would look like if John McCain were President and continuing the same economic policy, the same foreign policy, the same everything.

Remember BBND, in January of 2009 GNP was shrinking at 8% and the economy was bleeding 750,000 jobs per month. Sen. McCain campaigned on staying the course, that everything would work out in the end, all we had to do was to keep on keeping on, doing all the same things we were doing that got us into that financial collapse in the first place.

In my vision, tumble weeds are bouncing down Wall Street and millions of Americans are picking through garbage dumps for dinner. Oh, and GM is shuttered and our manufacturing base is still shrinking. The rich are even richer and openly complain about how lazy Americans have become.

To coin your phrase, Not one person on here is capable of convincing me that we should go back to the same old economic and foreign policies that screwed us in the first place. It has nothing to do with me already making up my mind.

It has to do history.

February 16, 2012 at 5:01 p.m.
BobMKE said...

Birds of a feather stick together. Jimmy_Obama,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-tZq4CWLi0

February 16, 2012 at 5:06 p.m.
jesse said...

hey tq!

don't worry to much about austrian from la la land,he has this aryan thing goin on,something about "the overman"!

February 16, 2012 at 6:25 p.m.
WhitesCreek said...

I usually love Clay Bennett cartoons but this one has me puzzled. Why is the date 1955 when Santorum actually wants to take us back to the 13th century when the world was still flat and science was an abstract concept from Greek history?

February 16, 2012 at 7:04 p.m.
dude_abides said...

"Did President Obama save General Motors?" Reynolds asked

"Without the money, without the funding, it would have been very problematic," said GM CEO Dan Akerson. "At the risk of alienating a whole lot of potential customers, I would say the Obama administration did a good job."

Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney and other critics have argued the bailout was unnecessary, and that the regular bankruptcy process would have made GM and Chrysler stronger companies.

"Would that have happened?" Reynolds asked.

"Not in my opinion," asked Akerson. "It would have been in bankruptcy for years and I think you could have written off this company, this industry in this country." BOOM!

Perfect for this cartoon! Keep spitting your poison into the wind, folks. There's that bulging vein on your temple again.

February 16, 2012 at 7:51 p.m.
acerigger said...

tu_quoque said... "Gave me greater respect for Santorum.

E-mailed it to all my contacts." hahahahaha,

oooo-kaaaay, for a minute there,I thought you were smarter than that.

February 16, 2012 at 8:20 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

WhitesCreek said: “I usually love Clay Bennett cartoons but this one has me puzzled. Why is the date 1955 when Santorum actually wants to take us back to the 13th century when the world was still flat and science was an abstract concept from Greek history?”

With Santorum, there is always the “rapture” factor to consider, Whitescreek.

While in serving in the House, Santorum was asked by a reporter to explain why his record on environmental policy was so dreadful. Santorum replied by observing that the environment was of little consequence in God’s grand plan.

“Nowhere in the Bible does it say that America will be here 100 years from now.”

AceRigger's Link: http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/01/04/santorum-thats-latin-for-a$$hole/

February 16, 2012 at 8:58 p.m.
News_Junkie said...

blondebutnotdumb:

You are not capable of posting anything worth reading. While there are many worthless postings, yours are always the top of the list.

I'm waiting for you to give me one good reason why I should read your posts.

February 16, 2012 at 9 p.m.
macropetala8 said...

AndrewLohr said... . As for 1955, wasn't the economy better then than it has been since Obama joined the Senate as the Democrats took Congress?

I could be wrong, but I do believe Clay's cartoon is referring to matters expressed by Santorum on the birth control issue. One of his rich supporters, I read recently, may some idiotic statement that in his day women placed an aspirin between their legs to keep from getting pregnant. In "his" day women who became pregnant, even by rape, usually had unsafe abortions in some back alley walkup where the knife and coathanger were all too commonly used as surgical tools. This due to a lack of birth control choices. More babies born to unwed mothers, or even married couples who just couldn't afford another child, were often thrown out in the trash or left to the elements and wild animals in the woods, or left in a cardboard box on the side of the road somewhere.

That, I do believe, is what Clay's cartoon is referring to.

February 16, 2012 at 10:24 p.m.
dude_abides said...

actually, tu quick, I try not to be verbose because I see how eye-rollingly boring your bloviating can be. You think you come in here like Zorro, with swashbucklingly rapier wit and insight, but BW48 and limric lay out well rounded and acerbicly delivered posts which show your garbage to be mundane and banal. alprova just wears your a$$ down and out for general purpose. You're a flop.

February 16, 2012 at 11:17 p.m.
dude_abides said...

What a comeback, tonight, for an American giant, General Motors, announcing a $7.6 billion profit last year -- the biggest in the 103-year history of GM. And this rebound comes just two years after GM emerged from bankruptcy, with the help of that bailout by taxpayers. Today, factory workers, once afraid of getting pink slips, learned they’re getting bonus checks worth $7,000 each.

Are they all bending over for Obama, tu_tu?

February 16, 2012 at 11:28 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

SAVE YOUR BREATH DUDE

TQ is the epitome of fly-by trolling. I once asked her to produce evidence of when trickle down economics ever did as it promised, to balance the budget and reduce unemployment. After tap dancing around the topic a few times she finally admitted that she had never heard of an economic system called trickle down. Then she said the federal budget hasn't been balanced since the early '50s.

But don't you find her funny? Swooping in on her broom, dropping a few amusing piles of troll poop, before rushing away with a SOIWTMNTABH?

It's really all she can do. Poor kid's got nothing.

February 16, 2012 at 11:46 p.m.
fairmon said...

It is amusing how each party and their members place blame or take credit for the normal cycles in the economy and markets which have been happening throughout the history of the country. It goes up for a nominal number of years then down similar to the length of time it has historically.

The government has little real control overall of the direction of the markets/economy. The economy and the markets have more to do with who is elected than those elected have over the economy. The thing government does best is extract a healthy share of profits earned from the labor of it's citizens that pay dearly for being governed far beyond the primary role of defending them and the country and fulfilling those duties and power of government described in the constitution.

Unfortunately those governing have rapidly increased the debt during the downturns then slow or stop the rate of increase in the national debt when the economy and markets are improving to the point of being considered good. The problem is they find new ways to spend the increased revenue without paying any of the debt and effectively addressing those needs neglected earlier. This is the behaviour than has destroyed every great dynasty in history with each continuing to declare themselves the greatest on earth and different than those in history while promising and giving people more and more from the government. History does have a way of repeating itself.....

February 17, 2012 at 2:44 a.m.
fairmon said...

chet123 said... HARP....YOU AND BOBMIKE ARE CONNECTED AT THE HIP.....MAYBE I SHOULDNT HAVE INCLUDED YOUR NAME....BUT I WAS SO DARN MAD TO HEAR BOBMIKE SAY HE KNEW HE WAS A CHRISTAIN.....SORRY YOU GOT CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE....

Perhaps you need to attend an anger management class and a reading comprehension course. I see you have now appointed yourself the judge that decides who is christian and who is not. Are the words "judge not lest you also be judged" in your bible? Your name calling and your evaluation of other peoples intellect based on their party affiliation with a tirade in CAPS and butchered grammar does not seem a christian thing to do and certainly is not influencing others.

If I were choosing, and I am not, the one that is a christian between you, alpo and MTJohn he would win hands down. He states his opinion and reasons for it, never calls anyone names, never uses profanity and never insist that anyone doesn't have a right to have the opinion they hold on an issue. Unlike you and others that conclude anyone not worshiping the Bama or disagreeing them must be stupid. You could learn a lot from him but it is hard for you to hear when you are incessantly talking and giggling.

February 17, 2012 at 3:09 a.m.
dude_abides said...

I feel so stupid! tu_quoque is a woman? No wonder she only identifies alprova's avatar correctly (no hints here on the other two).

February 17, 2012 at 5:39 a.m.
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February 17, 2012 at 6:17 a.m.
joneses said...

Here is something else this fool you worship as president has accomplished you disgusting liberals can be proud of.

For the first time ever, the United States, thanks to Obama, lost its perfect credit rating as Standard & Poor's reduced its U.S. long-term debt assessment from AAA to AA+ with a negative outlook. Instead of Obama addressing the issue with the massive debt he keeps adding to his solution is to file a lawsuit against Stamdard & Poors. Also about 6 month after this credit rating downgrade this fool you liberals worship asked for another 1.2 trillion to be aded to the debt. It is amazing that you stupid racist uneducated liberals see nothing wrong with this. Amazing.

February 17, 2012 at 7:20 a.m.
dao1980 said...

Wait, what?... tu_quoque says that limric = Bruce Willis and BW48 = Boy George??

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Whoa nelly that's absolutely and hilariously awesome. No better way to start a Friday than with a good hard laugh.

Do me! Who am I tu_quoque??

February 17, 2012 at 7:27 a.m.
jesse said...

i can kinda understand gittin blackwaters wrong but limrics?

that IS strange!

February 17, 2012 at 7:43 a.m.

I just saw Rick Santorum interviewed by Charlie Rose on NBC. Santorum chewed up Rose. It's good to see someone call out the media for being in Obama's back pocket.

February 17, 2012 at 8:56 a.m.
dao1980 said...

Ha, that's great. "It's Downtown Chocolate to you!"

Thanks again for the laugh. Hope Friday treats you well!

February 17, 2012 at 9:15 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

HELL HATH NO FURY LIKE A WOMAN SCORNED

TQ got her panties in a bunch again. The question is this: Since trickle down economics promises to balance the federal budget and reduce unemployment by cutting taxes on the rich, when has that ever happened? Under Reagan? Bush I? Bush II? All she had to do was post the OMB or CBO budget numbers from 1981 through 1993 and again from 2001 through 2009. Wouldn't that have proved her point? Wouldn't that have supported her claim that trickle down - or supply side if you prefer - economics was not a sham or a hoax or a financial catastrophe of epic proportions?

Here's her reply: It seems that you have issued this challenge twice already and when you found out that the ground rules would determine the winner with objective facts (my choice) instead of empty rhetoric (your choice) you vacated the field instead of suffering defeat.

What facts, objective or otherwise? She claimed ignorance of any such economic theory. Then she added that the federal budget hasn't been balanced since the early 1950s. Funny she should use the phrase 'empty rhetoric' to characterize my question.

Keep on trolling, honey.

February 17, 2012 at 9:27 a.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Macropetala8 said: "I could be wrong, but I do believe Clay's cartoon is referring to matters expressed by Santorum on the birth control issue. One of his rich supporters, I read recently, may some idiotic statement that in his day women placed an aspirin between their legs to keep from getting pregnant.

Interesting take, Macropetala8. You know I’m beginning to believe Bennett has given us a very clever “souped-up” cartoon here, which would be quite appropriate given Santorum’s political perspective. Indeed, Santorum’s backward political views and the whacky quotes attributed to him provide endless possibilities – especially for a political cartoonist.

When you saw the cartoon, you reflected on birth control, the abortion issue and the horrible nightmare that existed in 1955. But when I saw Bennett's cartoon, I immediately focused on the oversized vehicle, which made me think of dirty exhaust fumes, unhealthy air quality, and Santorum’s terrible record on environmental issues - along with Santorum’s arrogant reckless proclamation that God could care less about the enviorment.

As such, I decided to go “back to the future” a bit more and to check Wikipedia to see what else was occurring in 1955 that might tie into Santorum’s arrogant attitude, social conservatism, whacky statements, and backward political perspective. Interestingly, there was quite a bit happening in the area of civil rights in the year 1955:

Claudette Colvin - (a fifteen year old African American Girl) refuses to give up her seat on a bus in Montgomery, Alabama, to a white woman after the driver demands it. She is carried off the bus backwards whilst being kicked and handcuffed and harassed on the way to the police station.

Emmett Till - a 14 year old African America boy is murdered in Money, Mississippi after reportedly flirting with a white woman.

Rosa Parks is arrested for refusing to give up her seat on a bus to a white person, and the national civil rights movement begins.

Dr. Martin Luther King and other black ministers organize and coordinate a boycott of city buses, and form the Montgomery Improvement Association in Montgomery, Alabama.

February 17, 2012 at 9:27 a.m.
Welcome_2 said...

All I know is everytime I hear a Republican or tea-partier talking about values, integrity and religion I laugh so hard at their hypocrisy my ribs feel like they're cracking. If one isn't getting caught with his pants down another is.

Tennessean:

@ >"Metro Councilman Brady Banks was arrested Thursday afternoon on a misdemeanor charge of patronizing prostitution at a MetroCenter hotel, police said. Banks, 33, is accused of paying $100 to a female undercover officer in exchange for sex, police said in a news release Also charged were Matthew Moynihan, 38, of Hendersonville and Jyotin Arora, 37, of Hermitage, police said. Moynihan is a co-founder of a Sumner County tea party group, Sumner United for Responsible Government."

February 17, 2012 at 9:50 a.m.
Welcome_2 said...

@mountainlaurel "Interesting take, Macropetala8. You know I’m beginning to believe Bennett has given us a very clever “souped-up” cartoon here, which would be quite appropriate given Santorum’s political perspective. Indeed, Santorum’s backward political views and the whacky quotes attributed to him provide endless possibilities – especially for a political cartoonist."


Hmmmm, both of you have interesting and real perspectives of that period. Women and blacks were still considered less. A white man could beat his wife, even murder her and still not be charged. Women were expected to remain in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant. If a woman wasn't at least spoken for by the age of 18 rumors were beginning to fly that she was either destined to become an old maid or she might be funny, as in being a lesbian. If she stil wasn't married by the age of 21 all hope was lost on her ever getting married. It was a stigma to at least not be spoken for by the age of 18.

February 17, 2012 at 9:59 a.m.
chet123 said...

To my friend HARP3339....i channel my anger...it drives me with the passion that i need on various issues....as for my comprehension, i have ran a track on all your posting as far back as 1 year....You try to play as if you are above political party...but you are not....you supported republicans in the past...now you trying to claim you are a Ron Paul supporter ha ha ha....I understand you are a coward who afraid to stand you true convictions.....

You also are a BIG LIAR.....your posting Dec.3 2011...you told the lie that Bill Clinton Pushed NAFTA....that a lie HARP....I remember RUSH LIMBAUGH, and the republican Congress and Republican Senate passing NAFTA.....to work with republican congress Clinton sign it.... Gingrich was speaker of House.....the POSTER CAN RUN THEIR OWN FACT CHECK....but you harp told a big lie....

If you are not for republican nor democrats...then why did you support Herman(womanizer)Cain..post on Oct.11,2011 at 5:33am,post also Oct.8,2011 8:50am...the posters can fact check it for themselves..Hmmm....comprehensive course for me????? Hmmmmm?

You claim you didnt know Herman Cain was tied to Oil Billionaires(KOCH BROTHERS)posting OCT.8,11:58 Hmmm?

Atleast i'm consistent!

February 17, 2012 at 12:49 p.m.
HarryW said...

Folks, regarding spending anywhere NEAR the time we do on TQ et al, ad nauseum, may I remind you...DNFTT? Really. Let's not get down on the Repiggies' level and root among them!

February 17, 2012 at 1:17 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Welcome_2 said: "Women and blacks were still considered less. A white man could beat his wife, even murder her and still not be charged. Women were expected to remain in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant."

Your "1955"" addition also fits, Welcome_2. I do recall a Santorum quote that blames “radical feminism” for making it “socially affirming” for women to work outside the home, which leads me to suspect that Santorum would be quite content in the 1955 world that you described - a world where women remained in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant.

February 17, 2012 at 1:19 p.m.
chet123 said...

HEY JONESES....to you its PRESIDENT OBAMA!!!!

February 17, 2012 at 1:27 p.m.
librul said...

Local Tea Party Santorum rally to be held at Abba's House.

Hmmmmm .. Biggest church in Hixson + candidate for President holding political campaign rally = gross violation of 501(c)3 tax exemption. Anybody ready to file a lawsuit on this ????

February 17, 2012 at 1:48 p.m.
acerigger said...

joneses said... "For the first time ever, the United States, thanks to Obama, lost its perfect credit rating as Standard & Poor's reduced its U.S. long-term debt assessment from AAA to AA+ with a negative outlook."

Maybe you "faux newz" folks didn't hear the guy who heads Standard&Poors say that the credit rating was lowered because the REPUBS wanted to use the debt ceiling as a political football?

February 17, 2012 at 2 p.m.
acerigger said...

yeah librul ,somehow I thought this is illegal. I guess it's okiyar?

February 17, 2012 at 2:04 p.m.
chet123 said...

Well what else new???? The Church has sold out again!!!!!!!!!

February 17, 2012 at 2:22 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Don't you guys ever get tired of sniping at each other?

February 17, 2012 at 2:32 p.m.
joneses said...

acerigger,

You are another liberal liar. So you do not think the 6 trillion dollars in debt this fool you have as president is responsible for has anything to do with the lowering of the credit rating? Are you that stupid? I appears you are. How can you people support this idiot when he has not accomplished anything good for America?

February 17, 2012 at 3:02 p.m.
chet123 said...

You tell my Republican buddies....that there is a remedy...stop lying and TELL THE TRUTH...for pete-sake!

As long as people like Joneses and Harp is on a mission to spread lies and propaganda...i 'm going to counter....THERE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE A PUSH-BACK!!!!

February 17, 2012 at 3:05 p.m.
chet123 said...

This pseudo intelligent poster named "HARP" trying to tell me what a CHRISTIAN is...what a dumb-butt....He dont have a Clue...because if he did he would know non-beleivers were the first to use the term.....what a nuckle-head! ha ha ha non-beleiver invented the word...noone is HOLY because they are wearing the badge saying Christian....

HEY HARP....YOU LIED AGAIN...YOU WILL NOT FIND ME USING PROFANITY...CAN YOU STOP LYING FOR ONE DAY.....I HAVE NAME CALLED AND SO HAVE YOU...BUT NO PROFANITY!!!!!...SO DONT BE A CRY-BABY

February 17, 2012 at 3:14 p.m.
chet123 said...

HEY JONESES...YOU ARE THAT STUPID...THIS COUNTRY WAS IN THE BLACK UNTIL YOUR HERO GEORGE W. BUSH PUT US IN THE RED....DIDNT HEAR YOU SAY ONE THING....YOU WERE QUIET!....SO KEEP YOUR MOUTH CLOSE WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA AS YOU DID WITH GEORGE W. FOR 8 LONG YEARS......AND TO YOU HE IS MR. PRESIDENT.....TAKE YOUR HATE OFF AND KISS HIS FEET...THEN SAY "YES SIR BOSS" HA HA HA HA HA....LIVE WITH IT FOOL....LIVE WITH IT HA HA HA HA!

February 17, 2012 at 4:50 p.m.
chet123 said...

This is why our political systems is so messed-up.....noone have cause as many wars and death than religions of the world.....if they are sincere let them speak out against greed....ohhh...you wont hear a peek out of them.....and if they had any salt and influence they could eliminate a lot of problems....but the church are too busy protecting the rich and greedy.....really amazing!

February 17, 2012 at 5:07 p.m.
ArnoldZiffel said...

I saw Rose's interview with Santorum to. Holy crap did Rose come across like an Obama foot soldier!! Disgusting!

February 17, 2012 at 5:09 p.m.
mtngrl said...

Now that Issa is joining the charge back to the 50s, there is a good chance the GOP could lose the house in Nov.

Keep it up with the insanity and guarantee the demise of the GOP

February 17, 2012 at 5:41 p.m.
fairmon said...

chet123 said...

You also are a BIG LIAR.....your posting Dec.3 2011...you told the lie that Bill Clinton Pushed NAFTA....that a lie HARP....I remember RUSH LIMBAUGH, and the republican Congress and Republican Senate passing NAFTA.....to work with republican congress Clinton sign it.... Gingrich was speaker of House.....the POSTER CAN RUN THEIR OWN FACT CHECK....but you harp told a big lie....

Quit being a parrot for others, do your own research and you will find Clinton urged congress to pass it and promised to support any republican voting for it. He signed it on 12/8/93 and called it one his greatest achievements. Gingrich was speaker of the house from 1995 to 1999 so another inconvenient truth contrary to what your contention that he was speaker and suggesting he, Limbaugh and a republican congress passed it.

Rush Limbaugh my butt the only think he can pass is gas. More republicans than democrats voted for it with Reagan and Bush tried to get it passed but only Clinton was successful. I'm sure a christian like you wouldn't intentionally distort the facts or lie. Politicians say they misspoke so we will just say you misspoke.

February 17, 2012 at 5:51 p.m.
dude_abides said...

Rose: "So, it's a fair discussion to have."

Santorum: "Yes."

Charlie Rose is just a little harder to bullshine than the little girl I saw Santorum pick out and befuddle in a college setting a few weeks ago, in which he opined that gay marriage would, necessarily, lead to polygamy. He refused to allow anyone else to talk, threatening to end the appearance, because he sensed he could manipulate this child. He was truly disgusting that day.

February 17, 2012 at 5:55 p.m.
fairmon said...

chet123....

HEY HARP....YOU LIED AGAIN...YOU WILL NOT FIND ME USING PROFANITY...CAN YOU STOP LYING FOR ONE DAY.....I HAVE NAME CALLED AND SO HAVE YOU...BUT NO PROFANITY!!!!!...SO DONT BE A CRY-BABY.

You do need to attend a reading comprehension course. I haven't said you used profanity. I did say MTJohn didn't use profanity or go on a rambling nonsensical tirade like you often do especially if someone criticizes Obama or say they don't like him. I use profanity, name call and other things some would not approve of but I could care less. I will say again for your beneifit I think bumbling Bama is a blooming idiot that has surrounded himself with a cabinet of several incompetents. I don't agree with the birthers, the accusations that he is a muslim etc. and those that attack him as a person. I think he, unfortunately, thinks he is doing good things as his economic agenda takes the national debt form about 16 trillion to 26 trillion.

February 17, 2012 at 6:08 p.m.
librul said...

Don't know you, tu-quack-quack. Have no desire to. And the event is still illegal, regardless of who rents the room. It's not hermetically sealed from the rest of the property. They own it, it's in their building. I just hope somebody comes down on 'em. Just goes to show the lengths to which these theocrats will go to circumvent law.

February 17, 2012 at 6:34 p.m.
Welcome_2 said...

mountainlaurel: for a party that speaks so passionately against birth control, against abortion and in favor of abstinence; that consider the rest of us wayward sinners living in sin and going to hell, according to NewsWeek, the wife of one candidate lived in sin with a doctor for 6 years who performed abortions. I'll bet she didn't place any aspirins between her legs to prevent a pregnancy either. ;?

Either they will say anything to get elected or they believe Americans are so stupid that no matter what they say they'll be believed.

February 17, 2012 at 6:56 p.m.
librul said...

I have always admired Copernicus for that very reason.

February 17, 2012 at 7:52 p.m.
alprova said...

tu_quoque wrote: "You have to respect a guy who will stick with his beliefs even in the face of irrefutable proof that he is wrong. You know he is a complete loon but you have to respect that type of stubbornness."

Irrefutable proof? I think not.

You quoted an IRS ruling earlier: "Example 1: Church K is a section 501(c)(3) organization . It owns a building that has a large basement hall suitable for hosting dinners and receptions . For several years, Church K has made the hall available for rent to members of the public . It has standard fees for renting the hall based on the number of people in attendance, and a number of different organizations have rented the hall . Church K rents the hall on a first come, first served basis . Candidate P’s campaign pays the standard fee for the dinner . Church K is not involved in political campaign intervention as a result of renting the hall to Candidate P for use as the site of a campaign fundraising Dinner."

Perusing the Abba House website, I found no evidence whatsoever that it rents out any part of the church property to the public...ever.

http://www.cbch.org/

Your "irrefutable proof" appears to be refutable after all.

Personally, I couldn't care less if Rick Santorum appears to speak at Abba House, but his appearance does appear to skirt the law as it is written, without any proof that Abba House rents any portion of it's property to the public on a first-come, first-served basis.

February 17, 2012 at 8:05 p.m.
Welcome_2 said...

tu_quoque said... Welcome_2 said...

"according to NewsWeek, the wife of one candidate lived in sin with a doctor for 6 years who performed abortions."

I can now see why Newsweek sold for $1 when it went on the market a few years ago. Are they now using the same print stock as the National Enquirer? They are printing the same type of articles after all.

Maybe they could afford to sale at a $1? Most news sources make the bulk of their money from advertising. The same as tv makes the bulk of its money from commercials. Just a thought. :?

February 17, 2012 at 8:19 p.m.
rick1 said...

Welcome 2 said Metro Councilman Brady Banks was arrested Thursday afternoon on a misdemeanor charge of patronizing prostitution at a MetroCenter hotel, police said. Banks, 33, is accused of paying $100 to a female undercover officer in exchange for sex, police said in a news release Also charged were Matthew Moynihan, 38, of Hendersonville and Jyotin Arora, 37, of Hermitage, police said. Moynihan is a co-founder of a Sumner County tea party group, Sumner United for Responsible Government."

I noticed you failed to mention that Metro Councilman Brady Banks is a democrat. Was this because you intentionally did not want to mention it, or was it because the biased newspaper you recieved your information intentionally failed to mention it?

February 17, 2012 at 8:33 p.m.
Welcome_2 said...

No, rick1. Just the fact that right wing republicans claim to be so righteous. It's they're own fault they played up the morals, values rhetoric. They're the ones who brought all this on themselves. Accusing Dems of having no valuse, no morals. Lacking in character. Now it's come back to bite them and bite them hard.

tu_q, Forgot to mention. Newsweek wasn't the only source to carry the story. The Chicago Tribune, Post Gazette, Global Post, United Kindom Daily Mail, Huffington Post and a few others. They couldn't all be wrong.

February 17, 2012 at 8:42 p.m.
rick1 said...

Welcome 2, neither side has values or morals. You go off on the part about repbulicans being righteous, but you do not seem to have a problem with an elected official who is a democract being arrested for the same offense. I guess this type of behavior is excpected from a dem.

February 17, 2012 at 9:12 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Welcome_2 said: "Just the fact that right wing republicans claim to be so righteous. It's they're own fault they played up the morals, values rhetoric."

Zasloff at Reality Based Community brought up an interesting question for Republicans today:

“. . . If religious organizations can get exemptions from the Affordable Care Act due to their deeply-held religious beliefs, why limit it to contraception? Why not include immigration law in the picture?

“You shall love the stranger, for you were a stranger in the land of Egypt.”

This is not an isolated Biblical line: it is repeated no less than 36 times . . . So synagogues, churches, and mosques . . . should just make it clear that they should not have to obey immigration law: they will hire or provide services to anyone and everyone regardless of immigration status.

Any attempts by any law enforcement agency to . . . deport immigrants who are part of their religious communities violates their freedom of conscience.”

http://www.samefacts.com/2012/02/watching-conservatives/religious-exemptions-for-everything/

February 17, 2012 at 10:22 p.m.
librul said...

Some real Olympic-level hair splitting there!

The Central Baptist Church's purpose for existing is to promote evangelical xtianity. Like other such sectarian organizations they are granted exemption from taxation. The Tea Party event could have been held at the Hixson Krystal were it not for the presence of Santorum. There is no escaping the blatant political nature of the event and the fact that a presidential candidate regarded as the darling of evangelical religionists will be in attendance. Churches distributing "voter guides" are over the line, but holding a campaign rally thinly disguised as a "public forum" is a major league violation of the spirit of the law.

TAX THEM! TAX THEM NOW!

February 18, 2012 at 12:01 a.m.
acerigger said...

tu_quoque said...

"Since the Tea Party has not released the final details of their gathering there is the possibility that the church can donate the use of its facility."

Grasp...gasp...grope...spin..som'thin,som'thin,er,uh,

February 18, 2012 at 12:04 a.m.
Welcome_2 said...

rick1 said... Welcome 2, neither side has values or morals

Yeah! So you do GET IT, after all? Well, at least part of it anyway.

Neither side has values.. But only the right came out slinging running on a ticket of conservative values, declaring only they could possibly be in possessin of.

February 18, 2012 at 8:52 a.m.
Welcome_2 said...

*tu_quoque said... No dunce. Not the price of a copy at the newsstand. I was referring to the total cost of the media entity called Newsweek. Wasn't it a dead give away when I mention that it went on the market a "few years ago"?

tsk! tsk! There we go again with the typical name calling when one has nothing of importance to contribute.

February 18, 2012 at 8:57 a.m.
caddy said...

http://www.shmoop.com/1950s/economy.html

EATN, a little research DOES show there was a dip in 1954 and a more serious one in 1958, but that overall the 1950s was indeed a "Decade of Prosperity."

I'll take that any day over what we've had the past few years under this Regime.

The Decade of Prosperity

The economy overall grew by 37% during the 1950s. At the end of the decade, the median American family had 30% more purchasing power than at the beginning. Inflation, which had wreaked havoc on the economy immediately after World War II, was minimal, in part because of Eisenhower's persistent efforts to balance the federal budget. Except for a mild recession in 1954 and a more serious one in 1958, unemployment remained low, bottoming at less than 4.5% in the middle of the decade.

Many factors came together to produce the Fifties boom. The G.I. Bill, which gave military veterans affordable access to a college education, added a productive pool of highly-educated employees to the work force at a time American businesses were willing to pay handsomely for engineering and management skills. Cheap oil from domestic wells helped keep the engines of industry running. Advances in science and technology spurred productivity. At the same time, potential competitors in Europe and Asia were still recovering from being bombed into smithereens during World War II.

February 18, 2012 at 1:15 p.m.
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February 18, 2012 at 3:49 p.m.
chet123 said...

HEY HARP....IF YOU GOING TO DOUBLE DOWN WITH YOUR LIES....WHY NOT SAY OBAMA IS TAKING THE DEBT 100 TRILLIONS....GO FOR IT BUDDY....MAYBE YOU NEED A READING COMPREHENSIVE COURSE TO GO WITH YOUR TENNESSEE TEMPLE DEGREE.

WHAT I DID FIND IS THAT YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN YOU WERE KISSING THAT LOSER HERMAN CAIN BUTT....YOU CANT DENY IT...AND YOU ARE A "FLIP FLOPPER"..YES!.."A FLIP FLOPPER"..TOO SHAME TO ADMIT IT AS YOU TOO SHAME TO ADMIT THE REPUBLICAN DROVE THIS ECONOMY INTO THE GROUND.....

THEY COOKED THE BOOKS FOR 8YEARS UNDER GEORGE BUSH PRESIDENCY....THEN TWO MONTHS BEFORE OBAMA INAUGURATION GEORGE BUSH MIRACULOUSLY DISCOVERED THAT THE U.S.ECONOMY WAS ABOUT TO FALL OFF A CLIFF HA HA HA..REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT AND CONGRESS AND SENATE HAD MISMANAGED OUR GOVERNMENT....WE HAD EVEN BORROW MONEY FROM COMMUNIST CHINA TO FIGHT A WAR...HA HA HA HA..WHERE WERE THE COMMUNIST HATER???? WHERE WERE THE COMMUNIST HATERS....Hmmmmm? WHERE WERE THEY?????HHHmmmmm? PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SOMEBODY TELL ME WHERE WERE THEY????

HEY EINSTEIN! DO HAVE YOU ENOUGH SENSE TO REALIZE THAT YOU ARE NOT IN THE CRADLE OF CIVILIZATION...THIS SOUTH EAST TENNESSEE...THIS IS NOT TOBACCO ROAD....DONT THINK TOO HIGHLY OF YOURSELF...YOU MORON

February 19, 2012 at 9:11 a.m.
chet123 said...

HEY HARP....SINCE YOU CONTINUE TO DOUBLE DOWN ON THE NAFTA ISSUE...THIS IS THE BREAK-DOWN

GEORGE H. BUSH SPEAR HEADED IT

NAFTA WERE APROVED 234 TO 200

CONGRESS VOTING FOR WERE: REPUBLICAN 132 -- DEMOCRAT 102

SENATE VOTING FOR WERE: REPUBLICAN 34 ---DEMOCRAT 27

DUMB BUTT BILL CLINTON SIGN THE DARN THING TO GET REPUBLICAN OFF HIS BACK ABOUT WHITE-WATER; TRAVEL GATES;PAULA JONES AND OTHER GIRLS-FRIEND HE HAD IN THE PAST

THIS WERE A DAILY ISSUE FOR RUSH LIMBAUGH AND THE RICH AND GREEDY

H.ROSS PORET TRIED TO WARN THE COUNTRY ABOUT THE GAINT SUCKING SOUND IT WOULD CREATE...

THIS WAS REPUBLICAN DRIVEN!!!!! THE POSTERS CAN CHECK FOR THEMSELVES....ONCE AGAIN YOU TRIED TO TWIST FACT......BUT I CAUGHT YOU HARP....HA HA HA HA

February 19, 2012 at 9:36 a.m.
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