published Saturday, July 7th, 2012

Put who on an iceberg?

When asked his opinion about global warming in a candidate debate Thursday night, 3rd District Rep. Chuck Fleischmann, said this: "I think we ought to take Al Gore, put him on an iceberg, and put him way out there."

Really. We can only assume his witless, flip reply reveals his unstudied view of the preponderance of (non-partisan) scientific studies around the world. These studies find that heat-trapping carbon-emissions, mostly from growing global use of fossil fuels, is behind climate change, which is fueling the heat buildup that continues to shatter thousands of hot weather records, and that is causing havoc in volatile weather patterns in the United States and around the world.

Glaciers are rapidly melting and disappearing from mountains ranges everywhere, causing a steady rise in warming oceans and other serious consequences: The rapid loss of snowpacks and the viability of water reservoirs to sustain dependent populations in dry seasons; extreme damage to fisheries and coral reefs; swamped seaports, coastal areas and low islands. Alarmed security planners in the Pentagon, CIA security experts and people on islands and near shores around the globe are concerned about unstoppable flooding, where ships with trade goods and military weapons will dock, and where resource-driven wars will start.

But that's just the beginning. Crops, forests and food security are at stake. Power suppliers are struggling to cope with electricity demands. Health officials are worried about the rise in heat strokes and heat-related deaths. Weather watchers, farmers and homeowners everywhere are worried about unpredictable patterns of rain and snow deluges, flooding and fierce wind storms, extended droughts, wildfires and the creeping deserts of once fertile land.

March of 2012 was the warmest March on record for the lower 48 states, breaking more than 15,000 heat-records for the month -- a continuing trend driven by warming temperatures for a decade. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has found that heat has been the top weather-related killer in the U.S. the past 10 years. A range of studies analyzed by the National Resources Defense Council suggests that 150,000 Americans in just the largest 40 U.S. cities may die from heat by the end of the century if climate change trends of rising temperatures are not reversed.

Given a plethora of such findings come from the same scientific community that we trust to keep satellites on track, to forecast solar electromagnetic storms, and to keep heart surgery robots accurate, it boggles the mind that Rep. Fleischmann (among many other Republicans) refuses to even acknowledge, much less seriously address, the issue of climate change. He himself should go see where icebergs are melting.

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acerigger said...

Chuck marches in lock-step with his party leaders, who are proud of their ignorance.

July 7, 2012 at 12:20 a.m.
nucanuck said...

If we acknowledge human induced climate change, then we would be accepting responsibility. Responsibility leads to a need for behavior change and we aren't prepared for DENY, DENY, DENY.

The earth will recover, human life may not.

July 7, 2012 at 1:23 a.m.
gjuster said...

Be nice if just one prediction by the global warmists came true.

July 7, 2012 at 7:27 a.m.
gjuster said...

While man made global warming from CO2 has been proven to be false and filled with falsehoods - Chuck's answer was foolish.

July 7, 2012 at 9:41 a.m.
raygunz said...

gjuster said...

"While man made global warming from CO2 has been proven to be false and filled with falsehoods"

Surely you can provide proof for that statement????

July 7, 2012 at 11:23 a.m.
bret said...

Well before Al Gore started preaching about the dangers of Global Warming, another famous American often spoke of how air pollution was heating the globe. Nobody paid much attention to this guy since his name was Charles Manson, but it turned out that just like Al Gore, he was correct. So it is sad that our Congressman has less of a grasp on science and climatology than a crazed drugged-up alleged mass murderer. And if Chuckie really does want to put Al Gore on an iceberg, he'd better do it soon, before they are all gone.

July 7, 2012 at 12:12 p.m.
conservative said...

How long can Al Gore and his sheep tread water?

July 7, 2012 at 12:40 p.m.
gjuster said...

Raygunz -

The proof is that every single prediction made by the AGW crowd has been wrong - and shown to be lies, starting with the Hockey stick that can not be duplicated by any known information - because it was made up. And the person who made it (Dr. Mann) has yet to turn over his back up material so that it can be verified. (In real science, you give your back up material) I suggest you read some of the other side. The one area that man is causing warming is in the heat islands of cities. Man is also the cause of a small bit of warming from soot. But increased CO2 from man? Not so much. The media will never print the truth - they just take the ridiculous claims of the AGW crowd and print them without question. Science is not a consensus - it is facts. Are you aware that why we are sweltering this summer, the UK is having it's coldest and wettest winter in history. Are you aware that over half of North America is not having heat waves. Are you aware that two years ago in the southern hemisphere that they had a summer without summer. Man Made GW is based upon computer models not facts. Consensus is not science. As Einstein so aptly put it - science is not the 99 experiments that prove you right, it's the one experiment that proves you wrong.

July 7, 2012 at 3:17 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

Raygunz, while I would like to see some actual proof to back up gjuster's statement, too, I can offer at least one example of "proof" that many human-induced global warming deniers turn to: a petition that was signed by over 31,000 "scientists" denying that anthropogenic global warming is occurring. It was a bogus report, made to look like something endorsed by the National Academy of Sciences, when in fact it was not, and it was mailed out to people who supposedly had degrees in any science related field. It was at first a mail-only petition but then it became accessible via the internet and virtually anyone could sign it, regardless of scientific credentials. It was soon found that, of those 31,00 signers, only 2,100 had degrees in science (not climate science, but fields such as botany, meteorology, chemistry, geology, etc.). Fewer than 1%- that's ONE PERCENT - of the signers were actual climate scientists. Also on that list were the names of Hawkeye Pierce (Alan Alda's character in the 70s TV show "Mash"), Ginger Spice (Spice Girls), and Michael J. Fox. The phoniness of that petition is obvious but many GW deniers like to point to it as evidence that there is much reason to remain skeptical about human induced global warming, because literally thousands of "scientists" deny it's happening. But the fact is, there are only a paltry, absurdly scant few actual climate scientists, who have actually done the research, who deny the link between climate change and the emission of a prodigious amount of greenhouse gases into the atmoshphere.

The strategy that is being used today to discredit the science of climate change is almost identical to that used by the tobacco industry and their lobbyists back in the 70s and 80s to discredit the findings of scientists who were discovering a definite link between cancer and smoking. And in fact the same think tank, the Marshall Institute, that was funding the spread of propaganda denying those findings then, is responsible for a large part of the funding of today's propaganda denying the climate scientists. The various industry groups who are the heaviest polluters and don't want to have to undergo the expense or the effort it would take to clean up their act are hiring pseudo-scientists, not to do pure research, but simply to discredit those who have actually done the science.

Unfortunately they have been very effective at keeping the debate on-going, when in fact there is no debate whatsoever among the better than 97% of true climate scientists world-wide, who have for a long time now concluded that anthropogenic global warming is a certainty. The only questions that remain are exactly when the tipping point of no-return will be reached, and how devastating the effects will be.

July 7, 2012 at 3:24 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

Gjuster, you have offered nothing substantive whatsoever. Global warming does not mean that every region across the globe is going to experience extremes of heat. While the overall temperature of the earth itself is rising enough to create an imbalance in nature, the effect that it will have on various areas will vary greatly. Some places will experience extremes of cold while others will have extremes of heat, or normally dry places will experience more rainfall and the normally wetter places might experience droughts. It is ludicrous to point to record low temperatures for any particular region, as most GW deniers do, and use it as "proof" that human induced global warming isn't happening. It is the extreme aspect itself of the weather and the abnormal fluctuations that are significant, not whether a particular place is just extremely hot or not.

July 7, 2012 at 3:42 p.m.
conservative said...

Global warming is Socialist tax scheme :

"Global Carbon Tax Urged at UN Climate Conference December 13, 2007"

"A panel of UN participants on Thursday urged the adoption of a TAX that would represent “a global burden sharing system, fair, with solidarity, and legally binding to all nations.” "

and "The U.S. and other wealthy nations need to “contribute significantly more to this global fund,” Schwank explained. He also added, “It is very essential to TAX COAL.” "

July 7, 2012 at 4:26 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

Correction to my above post of 3:24 pm: the second time I used the figure of 31,000 I typed 31,00 by mistake. I think it's pretty obvious what I meant and I doubt that it will make the least bit of difference to the passionate GW deniers anyway, but I just wanted to correct my error, for what it's worth.

July 7, 2012 at 5:57 p.m.
Easy123 said...


You've posted this before. It still proves nothing. And it has nothing to do with socialism. You STILL don't understand what socialism is.

July 7, 2012 at 6:34 p.m.
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