published Thursday, June 24th, 2010

General McChrystal

about Clay Bennett...

The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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nucanuck said...

Maybe,just maybe Gen McChrystal didn't shoot himself in the foot at all,but instead found a way to avoid being judged harshly bt history for failing at an unwinnable task. He could see better than anyone that we weren't fighting a war,we were fighting a culture.

There is no army to defeat,only millions of very poor people wanting nothing more than to live a simple peasant village life.

We should assume that Gen McChrystal didn't have a momentary lapse in judgement,but rather a carefully thought through plan.

My guess is that he wants to run for the US Senate.

June 24, 2010 at 2:07 a.m.
GreenKepi said...

This general didn't get to his position by being stupid...he knew what he was doing and saying....

June 24, 2010 at 7:11 a.m.
Salsa said...

Never tell the truth to your boss if he's a politician. They Politicians cannot stand to hear the truth.

June 24, 2010 at 7:57 a.m.
OllieH said...

Let me get this straight: You guys are asserting that a man with military career that has been so distinguished that he has risen to the highest grade in the ranks of the military, would want to effectively end that career by being relieved of duty because of off-hand remarks to a reporter?


General McChrystal has always had a reputation of pushing the limits of acceptable military protocol. Unfortunately for him, this time he just pushed the limits a bit too far.

This war may well be unwinnable, but you won't hear that from a soldier like McChrystal. And even if he did believe it, would he intentionally screw up just to avoid the blame for losing the war?

I don't think so.

Defeat on the battlefield is one thing, but there's no shame in that. Having to leave your command and abandon your troops because of your own personal failings, however, is shameful.

I believe, given the choice, General McChrystal would much rather be viewed as having failed his military mission, than to be seen as having failed his troops.

June 24, 2010 at 8:54 a.m.
una61 said...

When General McChrystal is hired by Fox News as a Senior Military Adviser, for a few million dollars, maybe we will find out what's really going on in Afghanistan. I also assume that he will publish a ghost-written book, for a few more million dollars, about his military experiences.

June 24, 2010 at 9:04 a.m.
OllieH said...

Salsa- Civilian control of the military is sort of the rule here.

Besides, McChrystal seemed to have no criticism of how the war is being waged (in fact, he pretty much got everything he asked for). His offense had nothing to do with his dissent on policy in Afghanistan, but rather his disregard for those involved in making that policy.

McChrystal's disrespect for his authority was a strike at the very foundation of military culture, and it wasn't his first strike. Why he did it is the conundrum. It's not out of character for the man, but it is, undeniably, an unforgivable offense within the military.

Obama made the right decision to relieve General McChrystal of his command, and he replaced him with just the right man.

June 24, 2010 at 9:12 a.m.
ProgressiveInTN said...

I guess Obama wasn't THAT intimidated by the top brass in the Army, as McChrystal indicated in that article. Obama has a backbone - that guy needed to be fired. I am glad he is gone.

June 24, 2010 at 10:15 a.m.
SeaSmokie59er said...

No one is above the UCMJ.

June 24, 2010 at 10:39 a.m.

The Rolling Stone article, more than likely, is the cold hard truth about the military's lack of confidence and respect for Obama and his staff.

Liberals wanted another Vietnam to bring down Bush. We'll bed wetters, you got it.

June 24, 2010 at 10:44 a.m.
Shock said...

Bookie, I'm not a fan of the Obama administration, and I am sure the stuff in Rolling Stone airs legitimate issues, but all I've heard from the left is anti-war talk. I don't understand the comment about liberals wanting another Vietnam to bring down Bush. I think the majority of the left would have been elated if Bush had pulled all the troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan, regardless of the consequences to our national security. Kind of the opposite of a Vietnam. . . .

June 24, 2010 at 11:20 a.m.
chattaghost said...

"When you're dealing with the press, you're playing with a loaded gun"

June 24, 2010 at 12:11 p.m.
SeaSmokie59er said...

Una61- I don't think he'll be going to Fox after he admitted he voted for Obama and he had banned Fox News from his HQ.

June 24, 2010 at 2:40 p.m.
Walden said...

I ceased feeling any pity for McChrystal when I read in the Rolling Stone article that he had voted for Obama.

That, Sir, is when you truly shot yourself in the foot.

He was/is a great military guy, but we have an even better one taking the reins now (and irony of all ironies -- he is Bush's general, and one with a track record of victory!!)

Funny how Obama bashed Petraeus when he was a first term Senator from Illinois.

June 24, 2010 at 2:50 p.m.
Clara said...

As I understand the little I've read, the General did not have the respect of his troops, and held them back. I also read that although he and his immediate staff were disrespectful to his CIC in a bar, there were also problems with the branch of Obama's cabinet and advisors, being equally non-supportive with much quarreling in the political ranks.

I'm glad McChristal's resignation was accepted.

It is important that the regular troops welomed the change, and Petraeus knows and shows even more competence. The President showed strength!

The military has always had its own politics to contend with.

June 24, 2010 at 2:54 p.m.
EaTn said...

Is anyone so naive as to believe that any president could have left the General in charge and the war would have progressed as planned? No military person is beyond discipline and reprimand where appropriate. Things were not the same after the publication.

June 24, 2010 at 3:30 p.m.
Max said...

McChrystal is the slime who was instrumental in the coverup and creation of the fabricated story put out by the military in the death of Pat Tillman. Tillman, a truly great American hero, was killed by friendly fire, you'll recall. "The false narrative, which McChrystal clearly helped construct, diminished Pat's true actions," wrote Tillman's mother, Mary, in her book Boots on the Ground by Dusk.

June 24, 2010 at 3:37 p.m.
alprova said...

Shock wrote: " I think the majority of the left would have been elated if Bush had pulled all the troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan, regardless of the consequences to our national security."

Don't take this the wrong way, but I dare offer that the only reason we have national security issues to begin with, is BECAUSE the leaders of this nation have used our military to stick their noses into places where it did not belong.

Our military has become the venue for exporting supplies out of this country by Government contractors, who have made a very fine living for themselves at the total expense of the taxpayers of this nation.

Every dollar they are paid is tainted with the blood of every American soldier who has had their life taken from them, as well as with the more disturbing amount of innocent civilian lives that have been snuffed out in pursuit of those responsible for killing our citizens on September 11, 2001.

More than a trillion dollars have been spent in pursuit of those responsible for 911 and to date, few of those who had anything to do with the attack on this nation have been caught, killed, or brought to justice.

I further contend that for every alliance that has been forged through our efforts over there, that no less than two people now have reason to despise the United States and would join any effort out there to exact and obtain retribution upon us.

If our military were to have been assigned the task of eradicating every single cockroach in the State of New York in 2002, they would have been far more productive in their efforts over the past eight years in achieving that goal, than they have or ever will be at eradicating those who have, would, or may well attack our nation.

American cockroaches are stupid and can be easily lured to their deaths. The Middle East cockroach that threatens the lives of our people is of a far more intelligent species.

Taking up arms and dropping bombs is not going to get the job done over there. Giving people a purpose for their lives will diffuse a ticking time bomb. The people of that region need the means to provide sustenance for themselves and their families.

They need jobs.

June 24, 2010 at 4:26 p.m.

How many times has Oblunder shot his foot?

Tranparency... POW! Accountability... POW! Bipartisan... POW! Uniter... POW! Close Gitmo... POW! Pull troops... POW! Party endorsements... POW! Bowing... POW!

He's standing on one nub foot, aye Bennett?

June 24, 2010 at 5:24 p.m.
BOOBOO99 said...

McChrystal IS A COACHROACH ...He has done nothing for America thats good except prolong the war that George W Bush created for no reason. George Bush and McChrystal should be in jail for the rest of their lives..They slaughter 1000s of people and killed 1000s of our soldiers in wars we cant win. Iraq was a failure plus it destroyed our economy...we need rebuild America not iraq.

June 24, 2010 at 7:40 p.m.
ricardo said...

Some conservatives are saying that some pot-smoking Rolling Stones writer ambushed and brought down an American military hero. That's BS. Any senior level leader in politics, military, or the celebrity limelight knows that if you don't want your comments on the front page, you just say "No comment" or let your "people" keep the press away altogether. McChrystal knew he screwed up and was punished accordingly. His replacement is a much better choice anyway.

June 26, 2010 at 11:26 a.m.
rolando said...

Then there is this one, Oz...published one the 23rd, the day before Bennett's. Things that make ya go hm-m-m.

June 26, 2010 at 8:26 p.m.
Oz said...

rolando...I missed that one. hm-m-m

June 26, 2010 at 8:47 p.m.
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