published Thursday, December 29th, 2011

Tennessee tourist arrested after trying to check loaded gun at World Trade Center memorial

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    A visitor looks one of the pools at the 9/11 memorial plaza in the World Trade Center site in New York Monday, Sept. 12, 2011, on the first day that the memorial was opened to the public.
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NEW YORK (AP) — A tourist from Tennessee reportedly thought she could check her loaded gun at New York City's Sept. 11 memorial.

The New York Post says 39-year-old Meredith Graves was visiting the memorial at the World Trade Center site on Dec. 22 and noticed a sign that said "No guns allowed." The Post reports that Graves asked police where she could check her loaded pistol. She was arrested on a gun-possession charge.

Graves has a legal permit to carry a weapon in Tennessee, but New York's gun laws are stricter.

The Post says Graves posted bond and is due back in court March 19. She faces 3½ years in prison if convicted.

The newspaper says her attorney at Legal Aid did not return phone calls.

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PaulWilson said...

Big load of crap.

December 29, 2011 at 2:04 p.m.
mrredskin said...

shuold have known the law, but this is unbelievable that someone would face this much scrutiny by INFORMING authorities of her weapon and doing what she should have in this case.

December 29, 2011 at 2:23 p.m.
skyboxer said...

Uh, let's see, ummm, check gun laws before traveling armed in another state. Think she'll do that next time?

December 29, 2011 at 2:36 p.m.
spktur said...

Just another reason to stay out that POS city. I wouldn't go there on a bet.

December 29, 2011 at 2:36 p.m.
SeaSmokie59er said...

"Of all the states that do issue carry pistol licenses, New York State has arguably the strictest handgun licensing policies in the nation. New York City, which is effectively a "No-Issue" jurisdiction for carry pistol licenses, has even stricter laws." It's YOUR responsibility to know the gun laws of the state/city where you travel. Goto before you travel.

December 29, 2011 at 2:58 p.m.
hambone said...

Hope she didn't fly to NY!

December 29, 2011 at 2:59 p.m.
Nosense said...

Hope she didn't fly to NY!

Why? You can check a weapon with the airline.

December 29, 2011 at 3:33 p.m.
rolando said...

So why was the sign posted to begin with? It's already illegal for ordinary people there to carry a gun...

There won't be a "next time" for her, skybox. Her constitutional right to keep and bear arms was revoked upon her arrest for a gun crime. Being a law-abiding citizen, she will undoubtedly comply.

December 29, 2011 at 3:53 p.m.
lookinfour said...

That's just stupid for someone to travel to another state and carry a firearm without first checking the laws. Isn't that part of the carry permit course she had to take? Don't they tell you that the permit is for the state in which it was issued. And of all places to take a loaded firearm, NYC WTC Memorial. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Hope that doesn't make national news so that late night comedians won't have another dumb southern joke.

December 29, 2011 at 3:59 p.m.
dl said...

Hope she likes prison food - from all the NY papers she could get a minimum of 3.5 years. But reading the 100's of posts from New Yorkers in the NY papers - they all side with her (probably 90%), and seem to heavily side with allowing people to carry registered firearms. I did not expect that!

December 29, 2011 at 5:25 p.m.
dl said...

Spktur - I have been to Manhattan and to Memphis about 10 times each (for work). Memphis gives me ten times the homeless, ten times the panhandlers, and more drugs and prostitutes in 1 trip downtown them have gotten in 10 trips to NY.

December 29, 2011 at 5:29 p.m.
slanford said...

100% agree that you should always check the laws before carrying, and everyone knows NYC is EXTREMELY strict on carrying, but to arrest her is asinine. She went TO the cops trying to do the right thing and now has a serious PITA ahead of her. If they suspected something and found the gun, that's another story. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse to break it, but if you make a mistake and are trying to do the right thing, there ought to be some common sense used by the police and DA.

December 29, 2011 at 7:06 p.m.

Probably because they had an issue with letting somebody with a gun go off about their business.

What else could the police do?

The DA will probably take the 3 months to negotiate with some other lawyer for a way to plea this whole business out.

Chances are she won't be getting the gun back, but I doubt they'd want her in jail.

December 29, 2011 at 7:47 p.m.
lookinfour said...

slanford...she went through a gun course that told her that she couldn't just carry her gun anywhere she wants. She was given specific instructions on what she could and couldn't do. That is the purpose of taking the course. She obviously didn't listen to the instructors or read her manual. She probably shouldn't be carrying.

I don't think she should be commended for going to a police officer in NYC to ask where she should check her weapon. Maybe say nothing or go back to your hotel room and put it up. She's an idiot.

December 29, 2011 at 7:48 p.m.
acerigger said...

This is a set-up. Watch NRA ,ACLU, Somebody,get on board with this. There's already a bill in congress to allow permit holders in any state to carry in other states,regardless of that states carry laws. What does it mean? "An armed society is a polite society"? Yeah,right. LMAO

December 29, 2011 at 8:24 p.m.
rolando said...

ace- The Second Amendment already guarantees the keeping and bearing of firearms to be am individual, God-given [or if you will, inborn] right. The states have no legal grounds to infringe upon that constitutionally recognized natural right. Even a carry permit is an infringement. It has been a long struggle but the citizens are winning...Vermont has had it right all along.

And the new bill means "A legally armed society is a law-abiding society."

Google the stats; everywhere the citizens carry guns [legally], crime drops.

December 29, 2011 at 9:52 p.m.
rolando said...

You are right, spktr; the people living there are either like animals or they live behind police-barred doors and windows.

The only place worse is SE and SW Washington, DC...or maybe Baltimore. And anywhere in Los Angeles.

December 29, 2011 at 10 p.m.
Momus said...

The only place worse is SE and SW Washington, DC...or maybe Baltimore. And anywhere in Los Angeles.

... or Jacksonville, St. Louis, Miami, Chattanooga, Detroit, San Antonio...You get the point.

December 29, 2011 at 10:20 p.m.
Darresashe said...

What an idiot. Hope she gets the max. Let this be a lesson to the rest of you morons who think you can just show up to my city with your hand cannons and corn liquor all willy nilly. It doesn't work that way, people. If you can't be without your precious weapon of minimal destruction for a couple days, stay the hell home. So tired of ignorant hicks coming to my city and raising the crime rate. Did she really think she was going to need a gun at Ground Zero? Bin Laden's dead, sweetheart.

December 30, 2011 at 9:01 a.m.
frankel1205 said...

What a dumbass. Did she fly to NYC? With gun & ammo on the plane? Cause if she did, she has even bigger problems. Why would this imbecile think she needed a gun for a visit to the 9/11 memorial? It defies all common sense and reason, apparently not a huge commodity in Tennesee.

December 30, 2011 at 10:08 a.m.
frankel1205 said...

BTW - this shouldn't surprise anyone. After all, TN was one of the first states to pass laws allowing guns in bars & restaurants. Be sure to Google "Curry Todd". He's the state rep that wrote the legislation.

December 30, 2011 at 10:21 a.m.
inquiringmind said...

A good reason to ban guns

December 30, 2011 at 11:09 a.m.
Momus said...

Why is this news? According to NYC crime stats there are on average 40-50 gun arrest by that precinct each week, daily at or near the memorial. So why has this case seen national attention?

I'll let you figure it out.

December 30, 2011 at 11:21 a.m.
eastridge8 said...

....and ANOTHER black eye for Tennessee AND SOUTHERNERS!

REALLY?? People! WAKE UP! Use some COMMON SENSE when you visit other cities/states/countries!

December 30, 2011 at 11:29 a.m.
Momus said...

BTW -The police report says that there was "a white substance" also found in her purse.

December 30, 2011 at 11:45 a.m.
frankel1205 said...

This is what eight years of Bush letting the NRA have an office in the West Wing hath wrought. Ms. Graves did not need "protection" to go to the 9/11 Memorial. How can sane Americans "protect" themselves from people like her who believe in walking around in a city with over ten million people while carrying a loaded weapon?

December 30, 2011 at 3:11 p.m.
jesse said...

a city w/ 10 million is where i would think i needed a gun THE MOST!AND i ain't tryin to protect myself from 10 million,i'm tryin to protect myself from 1 to 3!!

December 30, 2011 at 4:08 p.m.
Jemmy said...

Rolando said: "Google the stats; everywhere the citizens carry guns [legally], crime drops" and "the people living there [NYC} are either like animals or they live behind police-barred doors and windows."

I did Google to stats. The fact is that crime rates in NYC have fallen to record-low levels over the last decade, and are now less than half of those in Chattanooga. But when has the loony right and those people who make a religious fetish or idol of guns ever cared about facts?

December 31, 2011 at 9:59 a.m.
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