published Sunday, January 9th, 2011


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The son of a career army officer, Bennett led a nomadic life, attending ten different schools before graduating in 1980 from the University of North Alabama with degrees in Art and History. After brief stints as a staff artist at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and the Fayetteville (NC) Times, he went on to serve as the editorial cartoonist for the St. Petersburg Times (1981-1994) and The Christian Science Monitor (1997-2007), before joining the staff of the ...

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Francis said... and the private sector are just evil...... we get it bennett....

big business is out of control but never the government.....we know the drill...

businesses making profit bad, government confiscating money good....same

old message....

and now it'll even be worse now that republicans control the house.....yeah...whatever

socialists, wacko enviromentalists, anti-business. anti-american, anti-freedom/control freak influences ok and business bad....

January 9, 2011 at 12:27 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

The best House of Representatives money can buy.

They're not even trying to be subtle. Despite CBO estimates that the Obama Health Care Bill will save taxpayers Billions, republicans are still pushing ahead will their fools errand to repeal it.

If they were talking about legislation to improve portions of the bill they could at least claim to have a serious legislative agenda.

On the bright side, it's good to know that the multi-billion dollar HMOs and the multi-billion dollar healthcare corporations are tickled.

Can't wait to see what's next up for the GOP theater of the absurd.

Here's one problem they're trying to solve right now: How much more polluted does the air have to be before bottle oxygen offers a brand new marketing opportunity?

January 9, 2011 at 12:34 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

Thank you, Francis, for defending big business. Obama and his socialists comrades have been trying to suck the life blood out of them.

Ignore the fact the American businesses earned profits at an annual rate of $1.659 trillion in the third quarter of 2010, according to the Commerce Department. That is the highest figure recorded since the government began keeping track over 60 years ago

From their cyclical low in the fourth quarter of 2008 - when who was President? - profits have grown for seven consecutive quarters, at some of the fastest rates in history.

And Francis, I know you'll be happy to learn that American workers are not benefitting from the economic bonanza because their jobs were outsourced.

You really don't have to keep on defending Wall Street, the Banks, Big Oil, the health care conglomeration, et. al.

They have Congressman on their payroll now to take care of that.

But thanks.

January 9, 2011 at 12:56 a.m.
librul said...

But does the brainless big business mouthpiece blubber on cue like the human "Tiny Tears" doll now serving as Speaker of the House?

January 9, 2011 at 2:40 a.m.
Sailorman said...


"Despite CBO estimates that the Obama Health Care Bill will save taxpayers Billions,..."

That you actually believe that legitimate is - unbelievable.

January 9, 2011 at 5:47 a.m.
AndrewLohr said...

Mr (?) blackwater, and Mr. Bennett, from an article called "GOGI Budgeting" at I copied and pasted the following list of CBO estimate mistakes. (GOGI is deliberate, NOT a mistake for GIGO). There's more to the article than this; go see it.

● Leaving out the roughly $115 billion in discretionary spending needed to implement the bill,

● Counting the $70 billion in premiums for long-term care insurance (CLASS Act), but ignoring the unsustainable CLASS Act spending that starts after the first 10 years,

● Using over $50 billion in higher Social Security taxes to offset health spending,

● Leaving out entirely the cost of paying Medicare doctors,

● Pretending that over $450 billion in payment cuts to Medicare providers will be possible without changing in any real way the operation of Medicare,

● And planning to collect a tax on cadillac health insurance that the unions have already gutted and will not tolerate.

(End of quote).

Medicare is 40 years old; how come there's any waste at all in it, let alone $450,000,000,000 worth? If there is that much waste, do we really want another big government health program?

Getting back to the cartoon, liberals at places such as the Huffington Post and N Y Times comments are saying the same things about our President as the cartoon says about our Congress (including Senator Reid's half?)

I'll say myself, as a libertarian Christian, that favoritism for the rich, and for big business, does go on and is sin to be repented of, and is bad policy to be corrected. Simplify regulations and taxes so we the (little) people can easily try things, so we can produce wealth instead of paperwork.

January 9, 2011 at 6:25 a.m.
fairmon said...

Why do businesses build and manufacture their products in places where the wage differences are not significant and where transportation cost off sets any wage difference. Could it be the highest corporate tax rate in the world? Could it be the more than 20% additional legislatively imposed cost? Could it be the additional local and state imposed cost?

Do Americans realize that most of the profits reported by corporations were from production and sales outside the U.S.? How many know over 1 trillion of those profits remain in and will be invested in other countries due to a 35% tax if they return the money to the U.S.? Why would or should they return the money here to invest when the cost to produce, excluding the wage difference, is about 40% greater than in most any other country?

The government favors the financial sector and supports it through favorable tax treatment while it bashes the job creating manufacturing sector. Why is congress unwilling to remove all the tax loop holes and lower taxes to a rate that is competitive with the rest of the world? Check out where they have their personal money invested and how many of them are multi-millionaires.

It is easy to criticize and blame either party since neither is willing to take the drastic measures necessary to address the growing debt and job loss dilemma as the American empire crumbles just as those in history have all done. The solutions are not as complex as they would have us believe but the solutions will not get them re-elected.

Excluding social security and medicare revenue which is for future funding of those entitlements the federal government is spending over 1 trillion more per year than received in personal and corporate tax revenue. How long can that be sustained?

What would you do?

January 9, 2011 at 6:29 a.m.
EaTn said...

Remember the Andy Griffith episode where soprano Barney was unknowingly being dubbed behind the curtain by Gomer with a golden singing voice? The congressional leaders at both state and national levels may try to hide their ventriloquist special interest "voices", but the curtain has been drawn open for all to see.

January 9, 2011 at 7:02 a.m.
woody said...

And I was always taught that behind every successful man there was a well-intentioned but nagging woman pushing him on and on and on...

Another myth debunked...

An aside to EaTn..sorry pal but it was the distinguished-looking older gentleman who aided Barney behind the curtain, in that particular episode...On another ocassion, Gomer actually feigned a case of laryngitis in order to help give Barney his (proverbial) 15 minutes of fame, after which Gomer, Andy and Barney, all, stepped forward to sing a little three-part harmony.

However, getting back on track for a one is fooled, for even a moment, that "Big Business" isn't running things..unless like Barney, you are willing to be fooled, for the sake of pride.

Aaah, Andy was (and still is) the man, Woody

January 9, 2011 at 7:24 a.m.
alprova said...

Sailorman wrote: "That you actually believe that legitimate is - unbelievable."

Here's something you should believe.

Providing a system that would allow the uninsured to be treated in physicians offices across the land, where they will receive preventative care, is far more advantageous and far more cost effective also, than for people to wait until they wind up in emergency rooms and are then hospitalized for far more serious complications and progressions of their conditions.

The right doesn't want to compromise at all. They simply want to throw people away and offer them nothing at all in terms of a solution to the problem.

I know for a fact that the day of employer paid health care insurance, on any level, is drawing to a close. The only thing that will either stop or reverse that flow, will be for the employment statistics to turn in favor of the employees, and that is not going to happen overnight.

Treasure your employer sponsored insurance while you have it. The next time you change jobs, you may find replacing it to be next to impossible. That burden will be on your shoulders.

January 9, 2011 at 7:51 a.m.
Sailorman said...


"Providing a system that would allow the uninsured to be treated in physicians offices across the land, where they will receive preventative care, is far more advantageous and far more cost effective"

Couldn't agree more. It's a shame the opportunity was wasted.

January 9, 2011 at 8:28 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

Andrew was able to attack the findings of the non-partisan Congressional Buidget Office by quoting Douglas Holtz-Eakin, President of the conservative think tank American Action Forum.

As a regular contributor to Fox "News," Mr. Holtz-Eakin routinely rails against the new health care legislation. 'Nuff said.

Sailor man asked with a snort of derision, "That you actually believe that (CBO report ) legitimate is - unbelievable."

You didn't cite another source and offered no evidence to dismiss the CBO findings. You act like it has to be proven to you. You act like the Congressional Budget Office offers opinions, not budget projections based on economic models and forecasts. Are they always correct? Probably not, but both parties relied on CBO scoring until Speaker Boehner's recent opinion.

Boehner's evidence? "Everybody knows" the healthcare bill will cost tax payers money.

On a more current topic, I was wondering how you tea baggers were feeling today. Is anyone going to quote Jefferson about how the tree of Liberty must be watered from time to time with the blood of tyrants?

Is anyone going to trumpet those Second Amendment remedies?

How's that revolution thingy working out fer ya?

January 9, 2011 at 9:59 a.m.
Francis said... prove my point..

i was wondering how long it would take for liberals to attack the second amendment, "tea baggers" and conservatives for the giffords shooting in arizona...well..faster than i thought.....giffords was for obamacare, but strong against illegal aliens and strong on another board someone blamed palin for the giffords libs are hypocrits, you paint with broad brush and before even having any facts you try and label "tea baggers" and palin as responsible for the giffords shooting...yet you wet your collective underwear when someone brings up that the terrorists on 9/11 were wouldn't stand for condeming all muslims for 9/11but you have no problem blaming the tea party movement for the giffords shooting.

regarding "big business"'s not "big business" the democrats have a problem with....they love getting big donations from's small to medium size businesses that they hate.....and want to squeeze

January 9, 2011 at 10:35 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

Francis, I didn't BLAME anyone. I was just wondering how you were feeling today. Apparently the shooter wasn't motivated by a specific political agenda. He was just a paranoid nut who hated government. As opposed to tea baggers...

I am surprised you guys aren't celebrating. Cheering the fruits of you rhetorical labors, owning the incident. Maybe that will come later.

Francis, you and all the other tea baggers are spineless cowards. You ramp up the rhetoric, brandish your weapons proudly, and the second somebody is shot you disavow any knowledge. You are all shocked, SHOCKED, to learn gambling is going on here.

You're as big a phony as Palin, O'Donnell, Angle, and the rest of them.

Thank you for proving MY point.

January 9, 2011 at 11:02 a.m.
GMills said...

Blame Palin for Giffords' shooting? You betcha! I blame one gunman who took direction straight from the Palin playbook. I do not blame the Tea Party with this mass murder of innocent people. The TP did not produce a website with cross hairs over Giffords' name and district. Most TP'ers are decent folks who are tired of feeling jerked around by politicians of all parties.
If this would have been a Muslim posting the same "cross hairs" website, we would have them arrested, sent off to Gitmo, and eventually tried as a terrorist. Since it is Sarah Barracuda, it is "just a metaphor". She will never take any responsibility, and immediately removed the cross hairs from her website.
You believe words have power or you wouldn't write here daily. Palin obviously has no concept. That is what saddens me.

January 9, 2011 at 11:29 a.m.
fairmon said...

The CBO also stated they could only project cost impact based on the projections provided by the administration. It is unusual for the CBO to put this disclaimer on their projections but it seems they were saying before blindly accepting the CBO conclusions it may be wise to take a look at the projections. Many democrats questioned the projections. National or universal health care is appropriate and needed but this poorly written piece of crap is not it. If you haven't read it then don't opine to me about it.

Screw those big businesses. Tax them more so we can all enjoy the fruits of their labor and risk taking. Pop it to the mid-size and small businesses a little less but they need to pay more also. I wonder if they would increase the cost of their goods and services if we did that? Those that have stock in those big businesses through their mutual funds and retirement funds will just have to take a loss and lower dividends than the 3% or so they are getting. We could tell them to bring home and pay taxes on the over 1 trillion dollars in profits they made by producing and selling their products in other countries or get out of our country. Should we do that? It may be a good idea to refuse to work for them and all go on welfare or work for the government. This kind of summarizes what I read in many of the postings here. I am assuming, perhaps incorrectly, that those investing for their future retirement or retired and looking for dividends and interest on their savings are willing to accept less profitable companies and less return on their money?

Both parties and the tea groups remind me of an Ostrich hiding from hunters with shot guns, head in sand and ass in air, thinking they are safe and everything will be OK. A few remind me of gulls, all they do is squak and crap.

January 9, 2011 at 1:04 p.m.
rolando said...

Methinks you protest too much, blackwater. You are overly sensitive today.

Francis used "you" in the plural as evidenced by his "you libs" and "your collective underwear".

To say nothing of the implication in your closing paragraphs that you DO blame conservatives for the shooting; it fairly reeks of accusation. What is left specifically unsaid is as telling as what is deliberately said...

January 9, 2011 at 1:41 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Blackwater said: “Despite CBO estimates that the Obama Health Care Bill will save taxpayers Billions, republicans are still pushing ahead will their fools errand to repeal it.”

Well, Blackwater, this is because the banana republicans simply don’t want to fix the problem or even admit that the U.S. healthcare crisis is having an impact on the U.S. economy.

If banana republicans wanted to fix the problem they would be doing something about the fact that per person health care costs in the U.S. are more than twice the average of per person health care costs in other countries where they have longer life expectancies than we do here in the U.S.

If the banana republicans wanted to fix the problem, they also wouldn’t be trying to hide the fact that projections show per person health care costs in the U.S. will continue to rise in the future almost three to four times the average of per person health care costs in other countries.

January 9, 2011 at 2:42 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Rolando said: "you protest too much, blackwater. You are overly sensitive today."

In view of the tragic situation in Arizona, I can certainly understand why Blackwater might be concerned about the radical rhetoric used by people like Sarah Palin. Let’s face it, Palin’s imagery and rhetoric can hardly be considered socially responsible:

“bombing through the press” “never retreat, instead RELOAD!” “shoot with accuracy; aim high” “set your sights on next season’s targets!” “From the shot across the bow” “your leaders will be in the enemy’s crosshairs” “you must execute strong defensive tactics”

January 9, 2011 at 2:59 p.m.
miraweb said...

Sarah Palin is a fool, not a mastermind. She has become the national symbol of the "mouth off first - think it over later" approach but she is hardly the only one suffering from the disorder.

These are excerpts from actual emails sent out by the GOP in the past few weeks:

Jan 7, 2011: GOP "Socialism Alert" about the "Trusted Traveler Program."

"Once again, King Obama is ruling from his throne and making decisions that will shape the U.S. into a trifecta Socialist utopia . . . If we could expect any president to dismantle and marginalize the United States of America by "blending" this country into others, it would be Obama."

Jan 7, 2011: GOP "Socialism Alerts" regarding a new ATF rule trying to slow the flow of U.S. weapons into the Mexican border conflicts (for reference - Juarez, where the worst killing are is only about a 5 hour drive from Tucson).

"Citing border violence, the ATF has issued an "emergency order" requiring any store that sells more than two rifles within a five-day period to report the names, addresses and serial numbers of those transactions if the firearms are greater than .22-caliber, semi-automatic, with the ability to accept a detachable magazine.

"You and I know how precious our freedoms are, and how much we appreciate the Constitution. But Obama just doesn't get it. He is chipping away at our freedoms every single day, ignoring the will of the People, ignoring Congress, ignoring the rule of law. Is this latest attempt to end our Second Amendment Rights going to be the straw that broke the camel's back? Will this spur you to take action and stop his dictatorship?"

7 Jan 2011: GOP "Socialism Alerts" on the planned symbolic vote to repeal last year's health care bill.

Obama knows what he is doing. This is all part of his master plan for CHANGE in America.

We WILL have to fight. This is literally a fight for our LIVES!
Think about it: Would you put anything in the hands of the government and expect it to survive?

In Germany, they came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the
Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. And then, they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up." Pastor Marin Niemoeller (1891-1984)

Sarah Palin's stupid stunts do not bother me as much as these emails. They are not harmless political games and they are hurting America and Americans.

Is any of this worth the life of a little girl?

January 9, 2011 at 4:11 p.m.
hambone said...

I see the TROLLS are getting feed regularly on here again!

January 9, 2011 at 4:12 p.m.
fairmon said...

The comments have drifted away from point and taken on a life and subject of their own.

I am not a Palin fan and certainly don't think she is presidential material. I fail to make a connection with any of the radical political rhetoric from either party and the actions of a nut. There should be no trial, he should be executed without further expense when there is "zero doubt" regarding who did what. Why is not important and certainly doesn't justify anything. I like the comment that if the death penalty is not a deterrent it certainly cuts way down on repeat offenders.

January 9, 2011 at 4:14 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

Rolando, you might be right.

Francis might be right, too. Maybe conservatives are not to blame.

But you wing nuts are certainly not the victims.

January 9, 2011 at 4:15 p.m.
miraweb said...

I took the time to watch Mr. Loughner's last video to the end. His thought process was clearly disturbed, but his ramblings were focused precisely on the themes that the political folks are feeding into the media machine every day.

We have more angry and disturbed young men in our midst. It is important that people think seriously about what they say and how they say it.

There is a tragic irony in the sudden realization that seems to have finally reached Washington that calling daily for attacks on the government could possibly have bad consequences.

January 9, 2011 at 4:51 p.m.
Clara said...

What I can't understand is why so many of the posters can't understand is that government, now, IS big business and big money, certainly not all honest.

January 9, 2011 at 5:13 p.m.
rolando said...

Here is a brief excerpt from

"...the same people who insisted in November 2009 that people should not rush to judgment about the potential connection of radical Islam to the Fort Hood shooting practically broke legs trying to tie an apparent paranoid schizophrenic who hailed Mein Kampf and The Communist Manifesto to Sarah Palin..."

end quote

The "same people" included Gen. Wesley Clark on CNN the night of the shootings, CNN’s Jane Velez-Mitchell that same evening, former CIA operative Robert Baer on CNN, also [on] the night of the shooting and finally, the next day, President Obama underscored the rapidly-forming conventional wisdom when he told the country, “I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts.”

But then it is somehow different when it is a Democrat who is shot.

January 9, 2011 at 7:36 p.m.
rolando said...

This is for you especially, mountainlaurel...the source is as I cited above and it applies to YOUR post, too:


And as has been repeatedly pointed out in the hours since [the shooting], Democrats have also used crosshairs and bulls-eye imagery in their own political communications, including one in Arizona “targeting” J. D Hayworth of Arizona. As far as the “reload” comment, it was less than three years ago that Barack Obama himself talked about responding to political opponents with a gun analogy:

Mobster wisdom tells us never to bring a knife to a gun fight. But what does political wisdom say about bringing a gun to a knife fight?

That’s exactly what Barack Obama said he would do to counter Republican attacks “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama said at a Philadelphia fundraiser Friday night.

end quote

What goes around, comes around.

January 9, 2011 at 7:42 p.m.
Francis said...

you libs who are trying to pin this on tea party people, anti-big government people, conservatives, sarah palin and republicans..are no better than this crackpot who shot giffords....i've read now that they're blaming the death of the nine year old girl on those i mentioned.........that's the mo used by modern day liberals and the democrat won't work....

January 9, 2011 at 8:09 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Bennett draws a another cliche and this crowd snipes at each other for another day.

Anther day, another lame a$$ cartoon.


January 9, 2011 at 8:19 p.m.
mountainlaurel said...

Rolando said: "This is for you especially, mountainlaurel"

Thanks, Rolando, but I believe you're still missing the point - my point anyway. You seem to be suggesting that radical rhetoric is OK because there are some Democrats out there who are doing the same thing, which is very different from the point I'm trying to make.

I believe the people who opt to use this kind of rhetoric are certainly trying to incite somebody out there and in believe Palin is a prime example with her “never retreat, instead RELOAD” . . . “shoot with accuracy; aim high” . . . “your leaders will be in the enemy’s crosshairs” . . . kind of rhetoric.

January 9, 2011 at 8:58 p.m.
hambone said...

At the time that the Founding Fathers wrote the 2nd amendment "reload" took much longer.

I beleive if they had been able to look into the future they would have written in a disclaimer!

January 9, 2011 at 9:59 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

The big ridge log cabin patriot wrote: "Anther day, another lame a$$ cartoon."

I'll have to take your word for it, Mr. Ridge. You are certainly an expert at everything lame ass.

Since you understand Democratic arguments, why don't you enlighten us with some more liberal talking points? Your last attempt hurt my ribs.

moutainlaurel, I enjoy your posts because you actually put a little effort into each one. Unfortunately, when you try to have a sincere debate with someone like Rolando, you'd have more luck talking to a jar of mayonnaise. If the jar were Hellman's I think you would find it wittier. I know it would definitely make more sense.

January 9, 2011 at 11:32 p.m.
delmar said...

2 cents worth; I agree with Mr. Bennett on who owns congress. Let's face it, the only thing that matters is money. Nothing is done that does not revolve around money in our world. Screw doing what is morally and ethically right for society, there's no profit in it. If anyone thinks that the people making our laws care about us and not about keeping their job, then they are way more trusting than I can be.

January 9, 2011 at 11:40 p.m.
nucanuck said...

The biggest banks assets equalled 17% of GDP in 1995. Today,the big banks assets equal 65% of GDP. If any one of those six highly leveraged institutions should fail,their sheer size would bring down much of the world's economy. We are in a more dangerous position today than we were when Lehman Brothers failed in 2008.

Obama has just appointed a JP Morgan banker as his chief of staff and a Goldman Sachs banker as his chief financial adviser.

Even a Congress with a strong Democrat majority was only able to pass a watered down,mostly meaningless financial reform bill that was mostly ghost written by the banker lobby.

So yes,Congress and our President are in the thrall of business interests,the same interests that pushed deregulation under Clinton,siphoned off huge amounts of the nation's wealth with "innovative" financial products under Bush and Obama,and are doing legally what no invading army could do to destroy 240 years of nation building.

Am I angry about it? No,I'm sick about it!

January 10, 2011 at 1:04 a.m.
trburrows said...

yes rolando

January 10, 2011 at 1:52 a.m.
rolando said...

Sadly, mountainlaurel, you missed my point also.

It wasn't the content of your post I was decrying but your technique.

What you posted was true although, IMO, incomplete; yet I agree up to a point.

Palin's comments [and those from the left] ARE protected free speech. They were not particularly inciting to a normal, thoughtful person -- anymore than Maobama's words were. She had the cross-hairs removed for the same reason the Democrats purged THEIR respect of good taste.

People forget this country was created through violence -- through protest and through violent action against its rulers; it is and was in our very nature as Americans to "seize the bull by the horns"...after free discussion and thoughtful consideration.

We are a volatile people, by birth and by heritage. God willing, that will remain keeps us free.

January 10, 2011 at 6:04 a.m.
woody said...

Thank you, one and all, for those several hours of silence for those who perished needlessly in Arizona on Saturday.

However, back to the 'toon' of the moment.."Big Business" has always been a 'player' in the political scene and politicians have always been at the ready to extend their hands in friendship (or for whatever) to ensure their business partners are well-represented in the halls of congress.

This is because they knew full well that "...what is good for "Big Business" is good for the country...."...excuse me..I nearly choked on that last part..even if it used to be true at one point or another.

Too bad today's politicians are not as astute as their predecessors. Back in the day when everything was in its proper perspective.

However, today's "Fat Cats" are exactly that..and getting 'fatter' by the day..of the backs of those who used to matter most..the consumer.

And before all the naysayers and political pundits have their way with my words let me just end this by adding.. I really believe the ghosts of Mr. Penny..Mr. Sears..Mr. Roebuck..Mr. Woolworth, and yes, even old Sam Walton are spinning in their respective graves due to the ways in which their companies have either been changed or done away with because of the escalating greed of those now in charge.

Sorry Virginia..there is no more "Main Street"..only "Wall Street."

Enjoy the snow, Woody

January 10, 2011 at 6:20 a.m.
woody said...

Rolando..what the heck have you been smoking???

"We are a volatile people, by birth and by heritage. God willing, that will remain keeps us free."

I can't speak for how you were raised but in my house we were raised to be respectful and tolerant of others and that violence was a last resort..waaay down on the list of options.

And to even think God would have a part in our "volitile" ways is asinine. Otherwise why even give us a brain and a soul, when a pair of clubs would have been more your estimation? I must also assume your religious education is sorely lacking as well.

Shaking my head in disbelief, Woody

January 10, 2011 at 6:40 a.m.
jimmycam said...

Bennett. Isn't this the same cartoon that had "Big Labor" on the briefcase a few months ago?

January 10, 2011 at 10:09 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

Rolando wrote, "That’s exactly what Barack Obama said he would do to counter Republican attacks “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama said at a Philadelphia fundraiser Friday night."

I believe Obama was speaking metaphorically. The line is from the movie, 'The Untouchables.' Sean Connery's character is talking to Elliot Ness about how they have to go after Capone. He says something like, they pull a knife, you pull a gun. They put one of yours in the hospital, you put one of them in the morgue. That's the Chicago way.

Anyway, the President was not inciting violence. He was talking about what "he would do to counter Republican attacks."

You cannot categorically deny that right wing rhetoric is not volatile. That's part of Palin's charm.

Back to the cartoon for a moment. Republicans harm the public and damage our economy by allowing corporations to write their own regulations. As we saw under Bush/Cheney, deregulation ensues and it cost us billions of tax dollars to bail out their chums.

And now republicans want to do it all again. Even though American corporations reported record profits over the past two years, all we hear is how Obama is punishing business.

Good grief.

January 10, 2011 at 10:09 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Username: blackwater48 | On: January 9, 2011 at 11:32 p.m.

Maybe you would like to share what you think is so original, insightful or funny about clay's lame little cartoon.

This cartoon was premature a couple of days ago but is perfect for today. Too bad that clay's thinking is so lock step liberal that he cannot take an opportunity like this!

...locally relevant and funny too. When I first moved to the South we might have seen a significant snowfall every 3 years, now we are seeing them in excess of 3 times a year.

Oh yeah, and did I say clay is an idiot? (That ought to get the cartoon worshipers all lathered up!)

January 10, 2011 at 10:53 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

I wish we could post pictures on this forum. I have a really funny revision with clay's head on the congressman and "Big Government" on the briefcase.

January 10, 2011 at 10:58 a.m.
acerigger said...

After viewing b-r-p's "funny" toon at townhall,I understand his criticism of Clay's work, it's waaay too complicated for simple minds. Just stick to stuff like "Blondie" or "Family Circus" b-r-p and you can chuckle all day long.

January 10, 2011 at 11:35 a.m.
miraweb said...


I have to disagree. There is nothing honorable or glorious in what you describe.

We did see real bravery in Tucson.

It came from the four people who stopped the shooter, not the kid with the gun.

The medals for bravery that we see, even in Afghanistan and Iraq, are for those who risk their lives to try save others. The heroes of 9-11 were those that tried to stop carnage, not cause it.

January 10, 2011 at 11:43 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Username: acerigger | On: January 10, 2011 at 11:35 a.m.

:D Yeah right ace! Complicated! clay is complicated!

Now I have to clean coffee off everything. Thanks!

January 10, 2011 at 11:46 a.m.
blackwater48 said...

Acerigger, you must remember that conservatives are fearful by nature. They lash out at what they don't understand which, if the right wing posts on this site are any indication, is just about everything. What don't they understand?

Let me count the ways.

  1. They don't understand that consumer spending is the engine that drives our economy.

  2. They don't understand that the federal government (see the Bill of Rights) cannot take away their guns.

  3. They don't understand the constitution. (see#2)

  4. They don't understand that what's good for GM is not necessarily good for America.

  5. They don't understand that allocating too much wealth to too few people is dangerous.

  6. They don't understand that 30,000 shooting deaths per year is not necessarily a good thing.

  7. They don't understand that the middle class has been under assault for too long.

I could go on and on but I know it's falling on deaf ears. And blind eyes. And closed minds.

I guess we should be tolerant of the feeble minded but it's difficult when they keep screaming in your face.

January 10, 2011 at 12:14 p.m.
miraweb said...

Probably a decent day for a reminder from the Mark Twain of our generation, Jon Stewart on the value of sanity.

January 10, 2011 at 12:56 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

Relax BRP, Rolando, Andrew, etc., I'll handle this one for you.

Stewart's a SOCIALIST!

Compromise is capitulation. It's treason. It's sleeping with the enemy.

He's just another big government lib who is trying to undermine our divine mission to take back our Country from the unclean.

His humor is lame and his message is treachery.

January 10, 2011 at 1:47 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Great job blackwater, except Stewart is funny, unlike your beloved clay bennett!

Oh and the treason and sleeping with the enemy thing is over the top. Libs are entitled to their opinions and are free to exercise their political rights. That is not treasonous.

By my score that is 3 out of 7 points. About as good as you can expect from the twisted logic of a progressive! You have to have a couple of kernels of truth in your arguments or even you will not believe them.

Congrats and keep on trying. Eventually if you work at this hard enough you will eventually get it figured out.

January 10, 2011 at 2:43 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

BRP, I guess you missed the sarcasm.

As I stated before, it's easy to find conservative values.

Start with a liberal, then remove all reason and accountability.

Sir, I was mocking you.

January 10, 2011 at 3:47 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Keep trying blackwater. I know you were trying to mock me. That is what you do.

Your repeated statement, "Start with a liberal, then remove all reason and accountability", tells me that although you think you understand conservatives you really don't understand the reasoning behind conservative (I actually prefer Libertarian) beliefs. This is the lazy little slogan you cling to.

You seem to think the liberal outlook is more enlightened but you fail to understand the human response to attempts at social engineering that cut the legs out from under your "progress" and leave you continually asking for more. More government intervention. More taxation. Less Freedom.

But you will never admit that. It seems to be some kind of psychosis. In my experience, if you don't figure it out by the time you are in your 30's or 40’s you never will.

January 10, 2011 at 4:28 p.m.
hambone said...

BRP has mutated into Francis?

January 10, 2011 at 4:36 p.m.
nucanuck said...


I have to disagree. BRP thinks,Francis...well...

That is not to say that BRP isn't misinformed/underinformed,but just to give due credit.

January 10, 2011 at 5:04 p.m.
blackwater48 said...

BRP believes progressives want, "More government intervention. More taxation. Less Freedom."

Talk about clueless. I guess you think corporate welfare is okay, but unemployment benefits, which stem from unemployment insurance, is somehow evil.

I guess you believe that even though the unemployment rate is around 10% people won't find work because they are lazy. So, people should have to sell their house (good luck with that) and move somewhere else to find work. Where do you suggest? India? China?

You're starting from the premise that business is always good, unions are always bad. George Bush handed the middle class a sock full of horse manure and called it freedom. His administration set this Country back decades, and now the House of Representatives is being run by the same gang of thugs.

You want to defend corporations. I get that.

I'm defending people who go to work everyday to earn a paycheck and put a roof over their family. I can't remember the last time a republican suggested anything that helped the little guy at the expense of corporations.

I don't want to punish American business. That would be counter productive. But how much richer do they have to be? And how much poorer do working people have to get? In case you haven't noticed, wages have stagnated over the last ten years while the rich have gotten gluttoneously richer.

Your talking about conservative ideals. Guess what? I was a registered Conservative in 1970, and my political philosophy hasn't really changed. How do you think I know the republican handbook so well?

After LBJ I would have bet you dollars to donuts that I'd NEVER vote for a Democrat.

But over the years things changed a little. The Republicans veered sharply to the right and Conservatives went and flipped off the cliff.

January 10, 2011 at 5:21 p.m.
Sailorman said...

Thank you, blackwater, for your list

Let me count the other ways.

"1. They don't understand that consumer spending is the engine that drives our economy."

Apparently liberals aren't sure either given their fascination with tax increases and endless spending

"2. They don't understand that the federal government (see the Bill of Rights) cannot take away their guns."

Doesn't stop them from trying with the able assistance of warm and friendly places like Chicago and DC

"3. They don't understand the constitution. (see#2)"

Liberals don't even understand the term "well regulated"

"4. They don't understand that what's good for GM is not necessarily good for America."

Won't argue that for a second but they have plenty of company.

"5. They don't understand that allocating too much wealth to too few people is dangerous."

Allocate: to set apart for a particular purpose; assign or allot. Is there somebody handing out money? Must have missed that. Your very statement is a false premise. I doubt Gates and Buffet would think they haven't earned it but maybe their guilty conscience drives their charity - wouldn't be the tax breaks. If anybody is allocating, it's the DC pols of all stripes.

"6. They don't understand that 30,000 shooting deaths per year is not necessarily a good thing."

Go here and look at the makeup of that number: See where guns rank then tell us how you think that number would change if guns were to disappear. Then we could have headlines like this

Tackling UK Knife Crime

Any ideas on the number of defensive uses of firearms?

  1. They don't understand that the middle class has been under assault for too long.

They most certainly do. Between Washington and what they've allowed their money men to get away and the Fed, we're lucky to have anything at all.

"I could go on and on but I know it's falling on deaf ears. And blind eyes. And closed minds."

Projection is unhealthy.

"I guess we should be tolerant of the feeble minded but it's difficult when they keep screaming in your face."

You mean like this: Political cartoons exploit Arizona tragedy in effort to score crude political points

Have a warm evening

January 10, 2011 at 6:04 p.m.
Clara said...

Blackwater, It's not only the middle class, it's us lower class. I received my Electric Bill for December. It was $386.83. I live in a small, factory built, one floor house...23X40 ft.

It must be my computer except that last year the bill was high but it was only $238.30 for the same period.

January 10, 2011 at 7:29 p.m.
BobMKE said...


Couldn't this toon be changed as, the guy holding the suitcase could have "Liberal Left" printed on it. And the other person (sock puppet) this could be a TV studio i.e. NBC CBS ABC Etc. What do you all think? Be fair now and use logic and common sense before you answer.

PS Sorry you got all of that Wisconsin snow. Keep shoveling it's good excerise.

January 10, 2011 at 8:08 p.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Username: Clara | On: January 10, 2011 at 7:29 p.m.

Don't forget, our president promised that the energy policies he supports would necessarily drive a big increase in the cost of electricity.

Be careful what you ask for (that hopey changey thing)

January 11, 2011 at 8:20 a.m.
BigRidgePatriot said...

Username: blackwater48 | On: January 10, 2011 at 5:21 p.m. "Talk about clueless. I guess you think corporate welfare is okay, but unemployment benefits, which stem from unemployment insurance, is somehow evil."

Blackwater, you are starting to remind me of alprova. Do you guys and gals all go to the debater's school of baffle them with BS?

I will take your first ridiculous point and ignore the rest. Let's see if we can FOCUS a discussion so we can try to do something meaningful here.

Conservatives, Libertarians and myself HATE Corporate Welfare. The big progressive government overburdens private industry in general and then sells favors to their chosen buddies in industry in the form of tax breaks, subsidies, etceteras. This is only necessary because government was too big and intrusive in the first place. This is how big government brokers power and compromises the effectiveness of private industry.

I have mixed feelings about unemployment benefits. It sure sounds good to have a temporary safety net to get someone through to a new job, but look what happens when something like this is put in the hands of the Federal government. How many weeks has the unemployment benefit been extended? It has turned into a form of Welfare. I have personally seen close friends sit on the unemployment roles, UNTIL THE DAY THAT THEIR BENEFIT RAN OUT. Similar things were observed in Europe (cannot remember the country, Holland?) where unemployment was brutally high until the country cut the level of benefits way back and low and behold the unemployment rate fell to something like half.

It may well be better to go back to letting people save for a rainy day rather than having government managed unemployment insurance. Or, reduce the premium, benefit level and term of unemployment insurance to the point that people are motivated to save for the rainy day.

January 11, 2011 at 8:44 a.m.
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