published Monday, August 6th, 2012

Democrats have job-creation edge and other Letters to the Editors

Democrats have job-creation edge

The June 25 issue of Chemical and Engineering News (Vol. 90, No. 26, page 4) included a letter to the editor that cited some striking facts. The author, Michael Heylin, states that an analysis of job-creating performance of the 15 administrations between 1945 and 2008 shows that Democrats enjoyed a sustained and substantial advantage over those 60 years.

• 46.4 million private economy jobs added during the six Democratic administrations (average 7.5 millon/four-year term).

• 25.6 million private economy jobs added during the nine Republican administrations (average 2.8 million/four-year terms.

• 21 million in two Clinton terms; 3.3 million in second Reagan term (strongest Republican term); 1.0 million in three Bush terms.

• 8.9 million decline started in January 2008: 4.7 million in second Bush term; 3.2 million in first four months of Obama term; 1.0 million before the decline bottomed out in February 2010; 4.0 million jobs added in Obama term since February 2010.

How to predict the future? It's clear that business experience wasn't worth much. Do they know how to create jobs? It doesn't look like it. If they created more jobs than shown above, they were in China, Korea, Thailand or wherever, but not in the U.S.A.

DAVID CUMMINGS, Cleveland, Tenn.


Gravitt will bring best to East Ridge

In November we are given the opportunity to vote for a good man on the East Ridge City Council. Marc Gravitt is a man with extremely high principles, a unique person with business experience, a veteran of the U.S. Army and a great family man.

Marc will serve us well. His personality, honesty and dedication to our city means we can expect his very best in each decision he makes on our behalf.

A vote for Marc Gravitt means good government for East Ridge.

CURTIS D. ADAMS, senior retired County Commissioner


Two misses make Times look bad

Wow, two swings and two misses in one week. First, the Monday Times editorial came out endorsing the Georgia T-SPLOST which was beaten to death by the voters (75 percent to 25 percent in North Georgia) who were not interested in any more taxes. Swish number one!

Then, on Wednesday, Times cartoonist Clay Bennett bashed Chick-fil-A president Dan Cathy in his "INTOLERANCE" cartoon for publicly coming out against gay marriage. I wonder if Clay read Thursday's front- page article describing the overwhelming public support of Cathy's stand, complete with pictures of police directing a traffic jam of supporters at Chick-fil-A's Fort Oglethorpe store and the long lines of supporters wrapped around its Gunbarrel Road store. Clay missed the boat again, as usual. Swish number two!

Not looking too good for the Times side of the opinion pages.

STEVE BERNTHAL, Blairsville, Ga.


Chick-fil-A spat is about money

The Chick-fil-A debate is about corporate money, not gay marriage

Here's the thing people are not saying about the Chick-fil-A debate. Chick-fil-A is a corporation that gives out millions of dollars to prevent gay-marriage legislation from passing. The argument isn't about a corporation or an executive's right to an opinion. It's not about homosexuality or gay marriage.

It's about corporate money in politics and how Chick-fil-A's money is outweighing your vote and your opinion as an American citizen.

It's not just that Chick-fil-A has an opinion about a political issue. It's that Chick-fil-A uses its massive wealth to influence politicians to follow Chick-fil-A's opinions instead of looking at the opinions of their constituents.

My vote will never matter as much as a corporation's because my campaign donations could never equal the millions -- billions that corporations like Chick-fil-A throw into the multi-million dollar campaigns that politicians are forced to run to compete. (See the "Citizens United" case.)

So no matter where you stand on gay marriage, realize that we are moving farther and farther away from a government that is of the people, for the people and by the people and closer to a place where what we buy every day will become the only vote that matters.

RACHAEL WAKTKINS


Hope tolerance gets here sooner

Throughout history people have displayed an intolerance and unwillingness to accept those who are different from themselves, resulting in the denial of certain rights. Examples of the majority or ruling class wielding power over the minority or otherwise oppressed abound. Many times this has been rooted in some sort of dogma, religious or not. In this country, the persistent struggle for rights has usually resulted in those rights being conceded.

I suspect that gay couples will eventually be afforded the rights of heterosexual couples. I also suspect that future generations will view those who initially suppressed those rights with the same disdain as we view those who suppressed the rights of women, minorities and people of other faiths in the past.

As a heterosexual married man with two young children to whom I strive to teach the concepts of tolerance and equality, I hope that time is sooner rather than later.

DAN COOPER, Ringgold, Ga.


Health act brings benefits to women

Beginning Aug. 1, 47 million women becme eligible for eight preventive health-care services at no cost! This is part of President Obama's Affordable Health Care Act.

These include: well-women visits; gestational diabetes screenings and counseling; domestic and interpersonal violence screenings and counseling; FDA-approved contraceptive methods and FDA-approved contraceptive counseling and education; breastfeeding support supplies and education; HPV-DNA testing for women over 30 or older; sexually transmitted infections counseling for sexually active women; HIV screening and counseling for sexually active women.

This means that for 47 million women who have health insurance plans, these will now be free of charge! Women, not insurance companies, can now make their own decisions regarding their health care.

Thank you, President Obama,

ALISON FALINSKI


Erlanger workers professional, polite

Re: letter July 30: I was a patient in the cardiac care unit for six days in May. I'm also a retired laboratory technologist, having worked both at Children's and Erlanger. I have found both as a worker and patient, that the staff at Erlanger do their best to be professional, courteous and well-trained.

As a health-care worker, it is a duty and responsibility to report the things she has witnessed. They are or can be very critical occurrences, especially giving wrong meds or not giving meds at all.

Erlanger has for quite some time had a policy and personnel in place to call anonymously and report these kinds of things if the person noting them is afraid of retaliation. If a worker lets these things go uncorrected, she or he is part of the problem and may be part of the reason.

As for me and my family and friends who have worked there, Erlanger is an excellent hospital where you will receive the best of care. But I also will agree that perhaps more nursing assistants might be needed but that is probably best addressed by what is available monetarily.

BEN KEIM JR.

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marineguy said...

Ms. Falinski, None of thse services are free. Someone has to pay the doctors, lab techs, nurses, and medical office workers for you to get them. They are not going to perform the tests and services pro bono. Therefore the costs are picked up by the people paying the insurance premiums and, if the patient doesn't have insurance, then the taxpayers. People with insurance will see premiums and/or taxes go up. Sooner or later either the government or insurance companies will begin to "ration" health care because of the costs.

August 6, 2012 at 9:12 a.m.
Plato said...

ALISON's point is valid in that it's good that women can receive these kinds of services under their insurance coverage, however marineguy also makes an important point regarding the cost.

The larger point to be made here, is that we as a nation, cannot reduce the cost of medical care by attacking coverage and the laws that mandate it. You deny coverage, and people wind up in the ERs with an exponentially higher price tag then preventive care would have cost. And as marineguy said, we all wind up paying for that trough higher insurance premiums or taxes

The only way to curtail the escalating cost of health care is to attack it on the delivery side and there are many things we could be doing in that area. For instance putting some primary care physicians on salary is one way of doing so. Making it a fixed cost eliminates the "cost plus" aspect of prescribing treatments, procedures and drugs that are not necessary but add profit to the doctor. The best hospitals in the country like the Mayo Clinic and the Cleveland Clinic do this now. They have some of the finest care in the country and their per patient cost is in the bottom 10%.

August 6, 2012 at 10:37 a.m.

STEVE BERNTHAL, I hate to tell you this, but intolerance is very popular, as is not paying for things that may be necessary. You think Clay Bennett isn't aware that a bunch of people who also support Chik-Fil-A's anti-homosexual agenda can be found in this area of country? He'd really have to be blind. And I'm sure the editorial staff knew that the idea of the taxes would be unpopular.

But popularity doesn't make something right. I'm sure you can think of some examples yourself, if you want.

marineguy, the point is that that expense is far less than the cost of treatment, a point often left out in the discussion. It's easier to treat early than too late.

Unless you want things to get so bad people just die quickly.

August 6, 2012 at 10:42 a.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

CONCLUSION:

'Chick-fil-A spat is about money'

NOTE: "Chick-fil-A is a spat about stopping the American/Worldwide Pandemic of Boy Scouts and Todlers (Cub Scouts) from being victimized by Homosexual Adults who Tear The Toddlers Up in their little anatomy.

Chick-fil-A is a spat about stopping the American/Worldwide Pandemic of Homosexual Organizations like the NORTH AMERICAN MAN boy LOVE ASSOCIATION [N.A.M.B.L.A.] perpetuating the Homosexual Agenda to imprison our Innocent Youth into a Lifestyle some have labeled 'The Culture of Death'.

Chick-fil-A is a spat about stopping the viscous spread of Homosexual Diseases (mostly) Like:

Traumatic proctitis, Rectal gonorrhea, Anal warts, HIV/AIDS, Nonspecific procitis (from chlamydia and other STDs), Anorectal herpes, Anorectal syphilis, Hepatitis B, Rectal trichomoniasis, Lymphogranuloma venereum, Anorectal granuloma inguinale, Anorectal chancroid, [NOTICE HOW MANY OF THESE ARE RECTAL,Which Homosexuals Target In Our Toddlers] Cytomegalovirus, Anorectal candidiasis, and many, many, more that are caused by infectious disease mutations causing new, incurable strains constantly!

Ken ORR

August 6, 2012 at 11:38 a.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

CONCLUSION:

'Hope tolerance gets here sooner'

Ringgold Dad! Wake Up Now! Do Not Set Up The Innocent Children of Good, Praying, Mothers, Dads, GrandParents and Loved Ones to Be Victimized by What I Have Just Described to You and Others. Many Dad's Who Were Soooooooo Tolerant Are Now Weeping With Agonizing Guilt Because They Wanted Their Precious Innocent Children To Embrace What Some Have Labeled 'The Homosexual Agenda Culture of Death'. Their Children are either suffering tragic, extremely painful deaths, or, are DEAD and GONE from depression which leads huge numbers of Homosexuals to Commit SUICIDE in their PARENTS HOMES. I Implore/Beg You Dad...Please WAKE UP!

Ken ORR

August 6, 2012 at 11:47 a.m.

Orr, can you show where any dollars from CFA went to child abuse prevention?

Those diseases you allege are homosexual are not limited to any sexuality, but do keep up with your lies.

August 6, 2012 at 1:02 p.m.
Easy123 said...

Orr,

Seriously, you're insane.

August 6, 2012 at 1:04 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Homosexuals [Multitudes, not all] are by far the greatest category of 'human beings' who enjoy intimacy with feces. Including something I am trying to get info. about Re: 'Salad' that many Homosexuals do on a regular basis.

It sickens most people to visualize two 75 year old men waking up in the same bed in the morning. They are so much in love that they don't even take the time to put their false teeth into their wrinkled mouths. They then plant a deep, endearing 'good morning' kiss upon one another. This will often be followed by their penchant for the feces thing. [Real-Life, Not Imagined Illustration].

Why do I illustrate the above? To show why all of the World's Great Religions describe Homosexuality as: Abnormal, Un-Natural, Aberrant, and, even Mentally deranged behavior. Mind you, this is from the age-old World Religions...'Not' Ken ORR.

How many people grow up truly hoping to be a part of this? But, if the PLEASURE-SEXUALS [men,or,women] can't find a partner of the opposite sex...well, I guess their logic is, "Oh, I can just claim I was 'born' a Homosexual, and, then, I can still get PLEASURE, with impunity." It is a Moral Choice. Just Admit it, and, get fixed.

Ken ORR

August 6, 2012 at 4:02 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

Jesus Christ, through His Apostle has declared in Holy Scripture...and, the Scriptures cannot be broken:

ROMANS 1:22- "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness,..."

Ken ORR

August 6, 2012 at 4:16 p.m.
Rickaroo said...

Marineguy, you have been paying all along for the uninsured who go to the ER as their only means of medical care. Whenever your premiums on your insurance policy go up, it is in large part to offset the billions of dollars annually that it costs the hospitals to treat those uninsured patients. The CBO has already determined that the ACA will actually be more cost efficient over the next decade than our present system of health care. Creating a system that will cover more people who otherwise would not be able to afford it is not just a matter of bleeding heart liberals wanting to give hand-outs to the poor and downtrodden; it's a matter of economics and common sense. It's much cheaper to cover more people up front, making preventive medicine more accessible and diagnosing illnesses in the early stages, than it is to wait until people have to go to the ER to be treated, where it is much more costly.

As for the "rationing" that you mention: good lord, man, what do you think the insurance companies have been doing for years?? There are approximately 50 million Americans now without any health insurance whatsoever, and it is not because they are too stupid or too lazy to have it. They are uninsured either because they cannot afford the outrageous cost or they have been denied access on account of pre-existing conditions. That, sir, is nothing less than RATIONING.

August 6, 2012 at 10:51 p.m.
SICKofBS said...

Orr, Reading your posts, I can't decide if you are a lunatic xenophobe, or a closet case homosexual. You can serious pull some bizarre examples out of your a.... Or are you putting things there? Kind of hard to tell with a whack job like you.

August 7, 2012 at 12:03 a.m.
tipper said...

Seems Orr knows quite a bit about rectums. Would this be called "anal retentive?"

August 7, 2012 at 7:05 p.m.
ORRMEANSLIGHT said...

SICKofBS, tipper,

No, this is the focus and domain of multitudes in the homosexual community. [Multitudes of Homosexuals Focus Entirely on The Rectums of Innocent Toddlers, and, Other Youth] What was meant to be discarded/expelled from the human body, homosexuals eat and play in, and, smell as a way of life. This is precisely one of the reasons that our Creator, The Lord God of Hosts, Jesus Christ, calls homosexuals 'DOGS'. Dogs return to, and, eat their own vomit. Dogs are one of the few lower animals who eat their own, and, other Dogs F-E-C-E-S. ERGO, their Creator Calls Them, Rightfully So...DOGS. Homosexuals=DOGS, DOGS=Homosexuals...according to The God of all Creation, He said that, Not Me. SELAH!

The Truth Only Hurts, If It Is Supposed To Hurt. I am indeed, sorry for the above truths.

Ken ORR

August 8, 2012 at 12:12 p.m.
dao1980 said...

Ken likes doodoo... It's all he can think about... that, and little boys... and now dogs too??

I fear for any kids or pets that are within his reach. I wonder if his family and friends are aware that they should be guarding kids and pets while he's around.

Scary stuff Kenny. have you made it to counselling yet?

August 9, 2012 at 4:51 p.m.
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