published Thursday, July 19th, 2012

5-at-10: SEC media blitz, the open Open and reality TV

Gang, we have a couple of open spots in Friday's mailbag. We're going to try to move quickly because the Open is on the TV as we type.

From the "Talks too much" Studios, here we go...

SEC media day review

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    In this Oct. 23, 2010, file photo, LSU coach Les Miles looks on during the first half against Auburn in an NCAA college football game at Jordan-Hare Stadium in Auburn, Ala.
    Photo by Associated Press /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

Here's a Day 2 recap:

The SEC West will go through Death Valley: LSU is supremely talented. And they're ticked off. As our SEC ace David Paschall tells us here, the Tigers are motivated by the sour end to last season. And know this: LSU's defense is sick. They have the league's best corner, the best safety and arguably two of the four best pass rushers. And yes, Alabama plays at LSU in this year's game of the century.

Pitch perfect: John L. Smith shined in his appearance as the interim Arkansas coach. And his answer to a question about whether he would like to coach the Razorbacks beyond this fall was spot-on: "Well, certainly. Do I look stupid?"

Quiet corner: As Paschall told us here, Auburn returns 16 starters and is 18 months removed from winning the national title game. And they are on no one's radar. So it goes in the SEC West.

Want to know how tough the SEC West is? With the talent Arkansas has coming back the Hogs would be preseason picks to win any conference this side of the Pac-12 because USC is loaded. Arkansas is no better than the third-best team in the SEC West. Scary.

Other quotes of notes from Paschall and UT ace Patrick Brown, who is down in the greater-Birmingham area with 1,100 other media types:

"It's going to feel great, because we're going to win the Egg Bowl for the fourth year in a row. I'm not being disrespectful to them, but it's going to be a great feeling to go out and be 4-0 against the school up north." — Mississippi State cornerback Johnthan Banks when asked what a career sweep of Ole Miss would mean

"We had one foul that turned back a touchdown all season, but I think the rule did what it was intended to do." — SEC coordinator of officials Steve Shaw on the unsportsmanlike conduct penalty that was implemented last year

"How do you leapfrog Alabama and LSU? Well, you've got to beat them. That's where you start, and it's good for us this year, because we have them both at our place." — Arkansas senior quarterback Tyler Wilson on being third in the SEC West pecking order

"I'm not sitting down right now, so nothing's hot. I don't have time to listen to that stuff." — Kentucky coach Joker Phillips when asked about being on the hot seat after last season's 5-7 finish

Questions you won't hear at today's SEC media day:

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    UT coach Derek Dooley is 11-14 in his two years as head football coach.
    Photo by Angela Lewis /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

The area's heavyweights — Tennessee, Georgia and Alabama — take their turns at the podiums today. And we'll get the predictions and the preseason all-SEC media teams.

We're dealing with a lot of stuff. To complete the circle, here are the questions we likely won't hear for the four coaches speaking today:

— Coach Richt, is it true that Nike's next combat uniform for the Bulldogs has "Chico's Bail Bonds" on the back? That would at least help during the offseason, no?

— Coach Dooley, If you had a son would you be more likely to name him Da'Rick or Cordarrelle? (Side note: We loved our ace columnist Mark Wiedmer's view on Dooley here in today's TFP.)

— Coach Freeze, you coached Michael Oher in high school. After re-watching "Blindside" are you going to have Sandra Bullock call plays in from the stands like she did in the movie?

— Coach Saban, can you fly? Or how about, Coach Saban if you were a flower, what flower would you be? Or, Coach Saban, what's your favorite poem? Or, Coach, can we start calling you Nicky? Or, Coach, who is your favorite Kardashian? Any of those would be excellent, and the lasers shooting from Saban's eyes would melt titanium.

The Open

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    Tiger Woods of the United States walks off the 18th hole at Royal Lytham & St Annes golf club after his first round of the British Open Golf Championship, Lytham St Annes, England, Thursday, July 19, 2012.
    Photo by Associated Press /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

Gang, on Thursday in Great Britian, Tiger Woods looked more like Tiger Woods than at any time since Thanksgiving 2009. Dude was 4 under at the turn (we're typing while the play is happening and the 5-at-10 tot is up watching some Disney show — yes, we have surrenderer remote control; so it goes).

This is going to be a blast, and the weather has not become a factor yet. Yet.

Not a whole lot else to say other than Bubba looks good, Ernie is playing well and Paul Lawrie (nice pick sportsfan) apparently is still alive. Who knew?

Here are the entries we have for the Openly Open Championship Championship (we have to get clarification on one pick, and if you don't see your picks, let us know):

5-at-10 — Dufner, McDowell, Paddy Harrington, Woods

Mrs. 5-at-10 — Zach Johnson, Dufner, Westwood, Donald, Rory

Fred — Oosthuizen, Westwood, Molinari, Els, Poulter

TFP golf ace David Uchiyama — Padraig Harrington, Matt Kuchar, Louis Oosthuizen, Lee Westwood, Justin Rose

BlueOval — Mickleson, D Johnson, Z Johnson and Woods

StuckinKent — Lee Westwood, Ricky Fowler, Padraig Harrington, Dustin Johnson, Martin Kaymer

Spy — Zach Johnson, Jason Dufner, Luke Donald, Ernie Els, Graeme McDowell

sportsfan — Furyk, Sergio, Paul Lawrie, Lee Westwood, and Ernie Els

McPell — Jason Dufner, Mickelson, Luke Donald, McIlroy, & Matt Kutchar

OTWatcher — Els, Dufner, McDowell, Scott, Kuchar

ThatIDoKnow — Zach Johnson, Donald, Stricker, McDowell

Weena — Dufner, Els, Z. Johnson, A. Scott, Donald

WarEagle — Stricker, Dufner, McIlroy, B. Van Pelt, Oosthuizen

wannabe — Tiger, Scott, McDowell, Johnson

scole023 — Woods, Els, Z. Johnson, Kuchar

Todd962 — Tiger, McDowell, Westwood, and Rose

Jefe — Adam Scott, Tiger, Bubba, Dufner

Cobrakid8 — Lee Westwood, Zach Johnson, Louis Oosthuizen, Luke Donald, Matt Kuchar.

Dawg747 — Harrington, McDowell, Kuchar, Westwood, Els

FEChancellor — Rory Mcilroy, Lee Westwood, Greame McDowell, Justine Rose, Phil Mickelson

BTG — Leroy Neiman Phil Garner Larry Csonka, Jim Kiick, and Mercury Morris (although that may have been the mustache picks in which case he is way ahead of the field)

Deboman — P Harrington, Dufner, Oosthuizen, Angel Cabrera, and R Goosen.

Abankston — Woods, Dufner, Z Johnson, and Fowler

chas9 — Donald, Harrington, McIlroy, Oosthuizen (or however you spell it), Westwood.

wc777 — Tiger, Harrington, Donald, Westwood

Josh — Tiger, G-Mac, Westwood, Harrington

BigBoy — Harrington, Mahan, Kuchar, Z. Johnson, Donlad

This and that

— We're planning on being on The Show with Chris Goforth on 1370 AM this afternoon at 2ish. Swing by if you have the chance.

— It's starting to feel like the Lakers are going to land Dwight Howard. Howard has now said he will resign with them. The Lakers are close to signing Antawn Jamison, who is a poor man's version of Pau Gasol, and the only reason the team that has Pau Gasol would sign the poor man's version of Pau Gasol is if they are going to deal Pau Gasol. What's the record for most "Pau Gasol" references in one sentence, because that has to be close, right?

— Gut-punch 9-4 loss for the Braves last night. Mike Minor pitched six stellar innings and the Braves and Giants were tied at 1 after nine. Giants scored twice in the 10th and the Braves answered on Brian McCann's two-out, two-run homer. The Giants hit two three-run homers in the 11th and scored four unearned runs in the process. The Braves are 4.5 games behind Washington.

— According to Forbes, the top-paid actress on TV is Sofia Vergara (who made $19 million in salary and endorsements and what not from May 2011-May 2012). Kim Kardashian is second at $18 million and Eva Longoria is third at $15 million. Those three have similar looks no? The rest of the top 10 is Bethenny Frankel ($12 million), Khloe Kardashian ($11 million), Tina Fey ($11 million), Mariska Hargitay ($10 million), Zooey Deschanel ($9 million), Felicity Huffman ($9 million) and Ellen Pompeo ($9 million).

Today's questions

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    This May 14, 2011 file photo shows former Major League Baseball great Pete Rose speaking at the Ohio Justice & Policy Center's inaugural gala at the National Underground Railroad Freedom Center, in Cincinnati. Rose is taking a swing at his own reality TV show. Cable's TLC network says it has started production on an unscripted series to chronicle the lives of baseball's all-time hitting leader and his fiancee, model Kiana Kim.
    Photo by Associated Press /Chattanooga Times Free Press.

Speaking of the super-talented Kardashian klan (kidding, kidding), there was news circulating this week that Pete Rose was going to do a reality TV show.

Rose and his girlfriend/significant other Kiana Kim have vowed their reality TV show will not be "classless" like so many others. Uh, sure Pete. One of the episodes will be following Kim to get breast-reduction surgery.

This has the chance to be train-wreck bad. We strongly advise not watching any of it because if this is as bad as it could be you won't be able to turn away. Side story: Roughly five years ago, a Rock of Love — the show in which former Poison frontman Bret Michaels dated a house full of trashy women — marathon came on VH1 and we got sucked in like it was a black hole. Rose's yet-to-be-named debacle has the same feel.

OK, here's our questions:

We all know the why — Rose obviously needs the coin — but would you watch Rose's reality show? Do you have a reality TV guilty pleasure? Do you believe deserves to be in the Hall of Fame? Our answers are 1) No. 2) We watch American Idol but not any others, although we've seen a couple episodes of Pawn Stars; 3) Rose deserves to be inducted in the Hall of Fame the day after he dies. He earned his lifetime ban, and when his lifetime is over, his baseball career as a player should be part of the Hall of Fame.

We have always said that sports were the original reality TV. And watching what we call reality TV today with the scripting and set-ups, professional wrestling may have been the actual birthplace of reality TV.

Discuss, and remember Friday's mailbag.

about Jay Greeson...

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Will Gene Garber be invited to Pete's show?

July 19, 2012 at 10:05 a.m.
chas9 said...

A reminder: Genius Jay called it. He said the Bravos would lose next time Minor pitched.

It's a good thing Joker won't be sitting down much. Research shows sitting shortens your life. And maybe your career.

Glad to see somebody picked Mahan in the Open. Most American players are at a disadvantage. I was recently in Ireland and got a look at the Portrush site of the Irish Open. The links courses across the pond are nuts. With their crazy roughs I'd have to have an electronic broadcast device in my ball to find it ever. And the winds are SICK.

July 19, 2012 at 10:21 a.m.
ordinaryguy said...

Heck why not Pete...sure has to be better than "Small Town Security" Could someone tell me if the star is actually Jon Lovitz dressed as a woman?

July 19, 2012 at 10:25 a.m.
sportsfan said...

Jay - Thanks for the recognition. Still a lot of golf to play. I'm sure Sergio will turn it around tomorrow. For the Friday mailbag...Why is there no love shown for the Tour de France by the 5 at 10? I understand that it's alleged that some TDF participants may be spiking their systems with all sorts of performance enhancing substances. However, during the mid-summer sports lull, watching these guys climb mountains on bikes is mildly compelling, and for anyone who has ridden a bike, it is amazing (even under enhanced, allegedly, circumstances). Plus, it beats reality tv everytime in my book.

July 19, 2012 at 10:55 a.m.
BIspy4 said...

Ooohhh ... love the Gene Garber mustache reference. That gets me thinking about the Chris Chambliss/Bob Watson platoon at mustache at first base.

No soup for you and no Hall for Pete. I think the writers and then the veterans committee will hold it against him that he patently lied to the commissioner. Right under bus in 45 on the wall is lockerroom is no gambling.

Liking my Graeme, Ernie and Zach picks so far. Dufner ... not so much.

July 19, 2012 at 11:03 a.m.
BIspy4 said...

Better Pau ... T'Pau (singers of Heart and Soul and targets of a great Beavis and Butthead segment) or Pau Gasol? And who has more staying power, T'Pau or Pau Gasol?

July 19, 2012 at 11:05 a.m.
BIspy4 said...

Can I take back my criticism of Dufner? I was checking scores while I was at an 8 am meeting (no, 5, there was no tee time involved, which is the one of the few reasons I get up to be somewhere at 0800. But they did have free ham and egg biscuits and coffee, so there) and he was 2 over before rallying to finish at even for the day.

July 19, 2012 at 11:10 a.m.
Todd962 said...

If reality television existed in the early 90's as it did today, Charlie Hustle may have been a plausible choice to put on MTV2 or A&E. Get him an apartment on the strip in Vegas, get him a day job running the sports book at Caesar's, give him a hair dresser roommate named Fuad, the arguments over Fuad demanding he get rid of the ridiculous bowl cut alone would have at least gotten them to a second season (PR:"Fuad, why are you standing next to my bed with scissors at 2 am" Fuad:"It must go!"). That doesnt even take into account the gambling aspect. But today, not so much. Cant see the appeal in todays market with a 20 year removed from the limelight ball player.

As for your questions... 1.No, I would probably not watch it, even with Fuad's night assaults. 2. I find myself getting sucked into marathons of Duck Dynasty. Its probably just beard envy more than anything but what are you going to do... 3. Yes, dude is a 17X All Star. He is without a doubt a hall of famer on the field. And while I see your point about the loophole of a lifetime ban, thats kind of just a gut shot to his family. What son is going to go up there to accept his father's induction and say, "Yeah, sweet, thanks for shunning my dad until his passing only to honor him in death." To which a drunk attendee will scream from the back, "Maybe he shouldnt have broke the rules." And they will probably both be justified.

July 19, 2012 at 11:13 a.m.
chas9 said...

My best pick is tied for 18th on the leaderboard. Is it time to panic?

Remarkable that nobody has yet mentioned the soup strainers on Clark Gable or Omar Shariff. Maybe readers of the 5@10 aren't as old as I thought they were. Not to mention The Pink Panther or The Sheik. Of course, the pencil-thin style wouldn't strain much vichyssoise.

July 19, 2012 at 11:22 a.m.
jgreeson said...


We can remember watching Garber fanning Rose to end the 44-game hitting streak on TBS. For the kids out there that was pre-cable days in the A-T-L. We had channels 3, 5, 11, 17 (TBS) and 46. And that was it. As for the remote control, well, that was the little 5-at-10 getting up and flipping the knob.

9er —

What's the feeling about Joker among you and your UK folks?

OG —

We're like you in that the Rose train wreck is intriguing. It's going to be awful — we can all agree on that right — but it could be the "Roadhouse" of reality TV.

Sportsfan —

It was a great call. Side question: What do you guys think Paul Lawrie says if/when he ever sees Jean Van de Velde? Talk about awkward. That's beyond ex-significant other awkward, right?

PL (sheepishly): "Uh, hey, Jean, how's it going?"

JVdV (sarcastically): "Just G-R-E-A-T! And how's it with you and YOUR major championship?"

PL: "Good thanks. Hows the golf game?"

JVdV then breaks into a Rain Man-type fit: "Hit the 3-wood. Definitely, hit the 3-wood. Twenty minuets to Wapner."

Spy —

Ole Bobby Watson. That boy's good. Good and terrible. Which has changed more in the past 30 years, the body shapes of first basemen or golfers? Discuss.

Why are we using our good questions in comments? Anywho, where were we?

We'll take the staying power of Pau over T'Pau since you're the only one we know who would have known that, and that's saying something.

Of course the Hawks drafted Pau and traded him for the corpse that was Shareef Abdur-Rahim, and one of the things we missed about Gasol playing in the South would have been everyone calling him Paul. There's no debating this.

— 5-at-10

July 19, 2012 at 11:24 a.m.
jgreeson said...

9er —

We almost mentioned the Iron Shiek when Hogan's name was tossed out there. Gable's stache was smooth; you know Clark was running things back in his day. That guy oozed game.

Let's have a third Rushmore of slick, leading man mustaches, because Gable deserves a mention. So does Burt Reynolds, who has been inexcusably omitted to this point.

Leading man Mustache Rushmore: Gable, Reynolds, Selleck and ????

We also left off Wilford Brimley and Yoesmite Sam.

— 5-at-10

July 19, 2012 at 11:46 a.m.
ordinaryguy said...

For your consideration on Stach Rushmore...Remember the Joe Willie Fu Man Chu????

In keeping with the Media Days

SEC East - South Carolina again...and with a tip of the hat to Weeds and a term he needs to bring back from the vault; the Clorox Orange no better than fifth.

SEC West - Don't sell the Tide short...they do it again and will go on to face the hated Lane Kiffin Trojans for the BCS Championship...

Let us ponder...two season removed from Cloroxville and a Kiffin gets a shot at the crystal trophy, while Dooley is left chasing Krytals

July 19, 2012 at 12:24 p.m.
chas9 said...

Joker's a good guy who apparently doesn't have the right stuff. But to win at KY, you really have to be something. We were lucky to have had Brooks, Curci and Bryant as long as we did. And Warren Bryant and Art Still don't come along everyday. I think we've been lucky to have more than our share of exciting QB's. Beware, Knoxville. A top gun QB ain't enough.

July 19, 2012 at 12:28 p.m.
fechancellor said...

10 Ring, How about Errol Flynn? Maybe Cesar Romero? As for Gable, of course, he had game. He's not known as the "King of Hollywood" for nothing.

July 19, 2012 at 12:30 p.m.
jgreeson said...

From friend of the show StuckinKent —

I don't like Saban- but he's right. Tax Penn State athletics to benefit the kids. Take 50% (or even 100%) of their proceeds to go to children's protection services. This is even better than the death penalty. It hurts their bottom line the same way that giving them the death penalty would, but it doesn't hurt the current football players or the small businesses that make so much of their money on Saturday afternoons during football season. It may hurt their recruiting budget (probably), which would hurt their athletics in time. To me, this is the perfect solution. I read the headline about Saban right after reading Stewart Mandel's on mailbag from this week, which has a similar suggestion in it, and I just think it's the perfect solution. Plus, it gives money and benefits the children, the true victims in this case.

Don't know if the NCAA has the might to give that penalty, but if they do, then it's perfect in every way.

July 19, 2012 at 1:01 p.m.
jgreeson said...

OG —

We're going to make our picks in Friday's mailbag.

But we have some very similar ideas.

9er —

Thanks. And no a top-gun QB ain't enough, but it's a pretty good start — especially when he's got three receivers that likely will play on Sundays.

FE to the C —

If Gable did today what he was doing back then, he'd make Lindsay Lohan look like Shirley Temple. Dude was running things. Errol Flynn's close.

Stuck —

Very well said. And Saban's idea has a lot of merits and will likely get a lot of traction.

— 5-at-10

July 19, 2012 at 1:07 p.m.
BIspy4 said...

While Gable was running through starlets like Earl Campbell through cornerbacks, Errol Flynn was ... well ... wading into the more shallow end of the pool, shall we say, where the adults don't and should not go.

I wonder how Sinister Stache would go over as a band name....

July 19, 2012 at 2:47 p.m.
chas9 said...

Spy's post reminds me of another misbehavin' star with a great 'stache--the great Charlie Chaplin.

July 19, 2012 at 3:37 p.m.
mcpell3 said...

While enjoying all the 'stache comments, "Wish I had a Pencil Thin Mustache" by Buffet has been running thru my head. And if I remember right Buffet had a pretty good 70's/Magnum PI stache going at one time.

July 19, 2012 at 4:11 p.m.
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